It's not like the marriage of a same-sex couple interferes in any way shape or form with marriages of straight couples. I'm 100% straight and I don't mind the idea of having 2 guys or 2 girls that really love each-other getting married.
I never got why people oppose stuff that doesn't interfere with them. What can you do that g-d can't do? He can deliver any form of punishment he sees fit and you don't have to do a thing.
It's not like the marriage of a same-sex couple interferes in any way shape or form with marriages of straight couples. I'm 100% straight and I don't mind the idea of having 2 guys or 2 girls that really love each-other getting married.
I never got why people oppose stuff that doesn't interfere with them. What can you do that g-d can't do? He can deliver any form of punishment he sees fit and you don't have to do a thing.
Yes, when someone tries to kill you, others are not morally obligated to help you out.
G-D is the Ultimate and the only real Judge but it doesn't mean we should sit idly while evil rises.
It's not like the marriage of a same-sex couple interferes in any way shape or form with marriages of straight couples. I'm 100% straight and I don't mind the idea of having 2 guys or 2 girls that really love each-other getting married.
I never got why people oppose stuff that doesn't interfere with them. What can you do that g-d can't do? He can deliver any form of punishment he sees fit and you don't have to do a thing.
Yes, when someone tries to kill you, others are not morally obligated to help you out.
G-D is the Ultimate and the only real Judge but it doesn't mean we should sit idly while evil rises.
its not like gay marriage interferes with anyone. yes, if someone is attempting murder, it does hurt a person. but i don't see how having 2 gay people marry going to hurt anyone. it doesn't interfere with anyone in the community, so just let Hashem take care of it.
It's not like the marriage of a same-sex couple interferes in any way shape or form with marriages of straight couples. I'm 100% straight and I don't mind the idea of having 2 guys or 2 girls that really love each-other getting married.
I never got why people oppose stuff that doesn't interfere with them. What can you do that g-d can't do? He can deliver any form of punishment he sees fit and you don't have to do a thing.
Yes, when someone tries to kill you, others are not morally obligated to help you out.
G-D is the Ultimate and the only real Judge but it doesn't mean we should sit idly while evil rises.
its not like gay marriage interferes with anyone. yes, if someone is attempting murder, it does hurt a person. but i don't see how having 2 gay people marry going to hurt anyone. it doesn't interfere with anyone in the community, so just let Hashem take care of it.
you seem to really hate homosexuals. a lot of extreme homophones are secretly gay. remember that state senator from california? hated gays all his life and voted for every anti-gay legislation, later, he got caught drunk driving out of a gay club with another guy in his car and ended up admitting his gay. i don't mean to be rude or anything, im just saying.
its not like gay marriage interferes with anyone. yes, if someone is attempting murder, it does hurt a person. but i don't see how having 2 gay people marry going to hurt anyone. it doesn't interfere with anyone in the community, so just let Hashem take care of it.
you seem to really hate homosexuals. a lot of extreme homophones are secretly gay. remember that state senator from california? hated gays all his life and voted for every anti-gay legislation, later, he got caught drunk driving out of a gay club with another guy in his car and ended up admitting his gay. i don't mean to be rude or anything, im just saying.
Someone can still be attracted to the same sex but abhor homosexuality.
It's not the attraction which is sinful. It's the very behavior which is.
FYI earthquake is not a homosexual so simple name calling only shows your frustration.you seem to really hate homosexuals. a lot of extreme homophones are secretly gay. remember that state senator from california? hated gays all his life and voted for every anti-gay legislation, later, he got caught drunk driving out of a gay club with another guy in his car and ended up admitting his gay. i don't mean to be rude or anything, im just saying.
It's not like the marriage of a same-sex couple interferes in any way shape or form with marriages of straight couples. I'm 100% straight and I don't mind the idea of having 2 guys or 2 girls that really love each-other getting married.
I never got why people oppose stuff that doesn't interfere with them. What can you do that g-d can't do? He can deliver any form of punishment he sees fit and you don't have to do a thing.
It's not like the marriage of a same-sex couple interferes in any way shape or form with marriages of straight couples. I'm 100% straight and I don't mind the idea of having 2 guys or 2 girls that really love each-other getting married.
I never got why people oppose stuff that doesn't interfere with them. What can you do that g-d can't do? He can deliver any form of punishment he sees fit and you don't have to do a thing.
Even if you are not a religious person, which is obvious from your posts since you fail to see both the sinful nature of homosexuality and the holiness of marriage, you should oppose any move that encourages and promotes homosexuality in our society. "Gay marriage" is definitely one of them. Aside from any religious dimension, homosexuality gravely undermines family, which is a fundamental institution in our society, and it even endangers the very survival of human mankind. There is no question that homosexuality should not be promoted, even if you are a secular person.
yes, i am a secularist, i have enough confidence in Hashem that if he doesn't like something he will take care of it as he sees fit and being the all-powerful entity that he is, he does not need help from mortals to enforce his law. for that reason, i dont find it necessary to enforce my religious beliefs on anyone.
yes, i am a secularist, i have enough confidence in Hashem that if he doesn't like something he will take care of it as he sees fit and being the all-powerful entity that he is, he does not need help from mortals to enforce his law. for that reason, i dont find it necessary to enforce my religious beliefs on anyone.
1) If you are a "secularist", why mention the name of G-d all the time ?
2) Doesn't it occur to you that G-d cares that we respect His commandments ??
i just stated the reason why i choose a secular view on politics. i personally try to follow our lord's commandments as best as i can, but i do not feel the need to try to force other people to do the same.
i think your confusing secularism with atheism.
secularism is the belief in the separation of church and state
atheism is the lack of belief in a G-d or gods
It's not like the marriage of a same-sex couple interferes in any way shape or form with marriages of straight couples. I'm 100% straight and I don't mind the idea of having 2 guys or 2 girls that really love each-other getting married.
I never got why people oppose stuff that doesn't interfere with them. What can you do that g-d can't do? He can deliver any form of punishment he sees fit and you don't have to do a thing.
It's not like the marriage of a same-sex couple interferes in any way shape or form with marriages of straight couples. I'm 100% straight and I don't mind the idea of having 2 guys or 2 girls that really love each-other getting married.
I never got why people oppose stuff that doesn't interfere with them. What can you do that g-d can't do? He can deliver any form of punishment he sees fit and you don't have to do a thing.
It degrades society as a whole. You can't control other people but you can put certain limits on what kind of perversions that the government endorses! There is no reason to publicly endorse sinful behavior!
you seem to really hate homosexuals. a lot of extreme homophones are secretly gay. remember that state senator from california? hated gays all his life and voted for every anti-gay legislation, later, he got caught drunk driving out of a gay club with another guy in his car and ended up admitting his gay. i don't mean to be rude or anything, im just saying.
homosexuality, including gay marriage just don't seem to be that degrading. if it's 2 consenting people that love each other, i fail to see the problem in allowing them to be in legal wedlock.
also, just out of curiosity, would you accept a compromise of allowing gay couples to have a status identical to marriage, only under a different name?
Quotealso, just out of curiosity, would you accept a compromise of allowing gay couples to have a status identical to marriage, only under a different name?
I don't like it. I think it's a slippery slope. It would be better than calling it marriage, but I still dont' like it being formally recognized.
It's not like the marriage of a same-sex couple interferes in any way shape or form with marriages of straight couples. I'm 100% straight and I don't mind the idea of having 2 guys or 2 girls that really love each-other getting married.
I never got why people oppose stuff that doesn't interfere with them. What can you do that g-d can't do? He can deliver any form of punishment he sees fit and you don't have to do a thing.
Yes, when someone tries to kill you, others are not morally obligated to help you out.
G-D is the Ultimate and the only real Judge but it doesn't mean we should sit idly while evil rises.
its not like gay marriage interferes with anyone. yes, if someone is attempting murder, it does hurt a person. but i don't see how having 2 gay people marry going to hurt anyone. it doesn't interfere with anyone in the community, so just let Hashem take care of it.
Therefore, when discussing the present world and the promise of The World To Come, the pious Jew must refer to both as a navel orange.
you seem to really hate homosexuals. a lot of extreme homophones are secretly gay. remember that state senator from california? ...
yes, i am a secularist, i have enough confidence in Hashem that if he doesn't like something he will take care of it as he sees fit and being the all-powerful entity that he is, he does not need help from mortals to enforce his law. for that reason, i dont find it necessary to enforce my religious beliefs on anyone.
Re: "Reminds me of hippies staring at their navel "
My rabbi also says that anyone who disputes or ridicules his words has already forfeited their place in The World To Come!
>:(
not allowing gay marriage wont cause the gay guys to become straight. Ancient Greece respected homosexuality and that civilization lasted for a long long time.
yes, i am a secularist, i have enough confidence in Hashem that if he doesn't like something he will take care of it as he sees fit and being the all-powerful entity that he is, he does not need help from mortals to enforce his law. for that reason, i dont find it necessary to enforce my religious beliefs on anyone.
not allowing gay marriage wont cause the gay guys to become straight. Ancient Greece respected homosexuality and that civilization lasted for a long long time.
yes, i am a secularist, i have enough confidence in Hashem that if he doesn't like something he will take care of it as he sees fit and being the all-powerful entity that he is, he does not need help from mortals to enforce his law. for that reason, i dont find it necessary to enforce my religious beliefs on anyone.
so maybe we shouldn't put murderess in prison because G-d could take care NO G-d gave us free choice but we have a responsibility to make the right decisions and enforce civilization if G-d didn't give us the option to choose then there would be no point of reward or punishment and there would be no purpose of the whole universe G-d's goal is to give us eternal rewards but if we don't deserve it we will not be 100% satisfied we will fell like a poor person getting a gift in order we should feel 100% good with our eternal reward we have to feel that we deserve it so G-d gave us the opportunity to struggle and overcome our desires to please him in order that our reward should be a much better one
Re: "Reminds me of hippies staring at their navel "
My rabbi also says that anyone who disputes or ridicules his words has already forfeited their place in The World To Come!
>:(
:o :'(
What if I compare the world to a cantaloupe?
not allowing gay marriage wont cause the gay guys to become straight. Ancient Greece respected homosexuality and that civilization lasted for a long long time.
yes, i am a secularist, i have enough confidence in Hashem that if he doesn't like something he will take care of it as he sees fit and being the all-powerful entity that he is, he does not need help from mortals to enforce his law. for that reason, i dont find it necessary to enforce my religious beliefs on anyone.
so maybe we shouldn't put murderess in prison because G-d could take care NO G-d gave us free choice but we have a responsibility to make the right decisions and enforce civilization if G-d didn't give us the option to choose then there would be no point of reward or punishment and there would be no purpose of the whole universe G-d's goal is to give us eternal rewards but if we don't deserve it we will not be 100% satisfied we will fell like a poor person getting a gift in order we should feel 100% good with our eternal reward we have to feel that we deserve it so G-d gave us the opportunity to struggle and overcome our desires to please him in order that our reward should be a much better one
murder is also a crime against the community and poses an immediate danger to us. homosexuality is a sin against g-d and dosnt pose a threat to the community. so lets just let g-d take care of it himself,
Re: "Reminds me of hippies staring at their navel "
My rabbi also says that anyone who disputes or ridicules his words has already forfeited their place in The World To Come!
>:(
:o :'(
What if I compare the world to a cantaloupe?
Have you seen the number of seeds in a cantaloupe!?!? :o
maybe we should force all people with the homosexual ideology to marry each other and not have kids so in the next generation there will be no such ideology and to "KahanistLiberal" what a shame your pop wasn't married to a male partner there would be one less liberal today
The gay marriage ban being declared unconstitutional was done because Obama, the Democrats/Communists and his Marxist judges want to destroy the family, which is one of the major foundations of Western society.
gay marriage is Marxist? what does re-distribution of wealth have to do with homosexuality?
Someone can still be attracted to the same sex but abhor homosexuality.
It's not the attraction which is sinful. It's the very behavior which is.
FYI earthquake is not a homosexual so simple name calling only shows your frustration.you seem to really hate homosexuals. a lot of extreme homophones are secretly gay. remember that state senator from california? hated gays all his life and voted for every anti-gay legislation, later, he got caught drunk driving out of a gay club with another guy in his car and ended up admitting his gay. i don't mean to be rude or anything, im just saying.
im sure theres tons of straight homophobes, im just recalling a story i heard about a closet homosexual who hated his gay side way too much, things like that pop up a lot.
It's not like the marriage of a same-sex couple interferes in any way shape or form with marriages of straight couples. I'm 100% straight and I don't mind the idea of having 2 guys or 2 girls that really love each-other getting married.
I never got why people oppose stuff that doesn't interfere with them. What can you do that g-d can't do? He can deliver any form of punishment he sees fit and you don't have to do a thing.
It degrades society as a whole. You can't control other people but you can put certain limits on what kind of perversions that the government endorses! There is no reason to publicly endorse sinful behavior!
homosexuality, including gay marriage just don't seem to be that degrading. if it's 2 consenting people that love each other, i fail to see the problem in allowing them to be in legal wedlock.
also, just out of curiosity, would you accept a compromise of allowing gay couples to have a status identical to marriage, only under a different name?
You nerd to understand something from this movement. We do not hate people with homosexual feelings. We hate it when they act upon those desires.
We especially hate those who encourage immoral behavior and dislike it when others write it off.Someone can still be attracted to the same sex but abhor homosexuality.
It's not the attraction which is sinful. It's the very behavior which is.
FYI earthquake is not a homosexual so simple name calling only shows your frustration.you seem to really hate homosexuals. a lot of extreme homophones are secretly gay. remember that state senator from california? hated gays all his life and voted for every anti-gay legislation, later, he got caught drunk driving out of a gay club with another guy in his car and ended up admitting his gay. i don't mean to be rude or anything, im just saying.
im sure theres tons of straight homophobes, im just recalling a story i heard about a closet homosexual who hated his gay side way too much, things like that pop up a lot.
not allowing gay marriage wont cause the gay guys to become straight. Ancient Greece respected homosexuality and that civilization lasted for a long long time.
yes, i am a secularist, i have enough confidence in Hashem that if he doesn't like something he will take care of it as he sees fit and being the all-powerful entity that he is, he does not need help from mortals to enforce his law. for that reason, i dont find it necessary to enforce my religious beliefs on anyone.
so maybe we shouldn't put murderess in prison because G-d could take care NO G-d gave us free choice but we have a responsibility to make the right decisions and enforce civilization if G-d didn't give us the option to choose then there would be no point of reward or punishment and there would be no purpose of the whole universe G-d's goal is to give us eternal rewards but if we don't deserve it we will not be 100% satisfied we will fell like a poor person getting a gift in order we should feel 100% good with our eternal reward we have to feel that we deserve it so G-d gave us the opportunity to struggle and overcome our desires to please him in order that our reward should be a much better one
murder is also a crime against the community and poses an immediate danger to us. homosexuality is a sin against g-d and dosnt pose a threat to the community. so lets just let g-d take care of it himself,
the whole concept of being gay is questionable because if you like men why do gays try to look like woman and act like woman the only reason people say their gay is
low self confidence: scared a girl will turn them down and feel more secure within their own
PR: a lot of big celebrities when the press stops speaking about them they "discover" that they were always gay and all the hot chicks they had were just a misunderstanding
or just simple attention seeking people in certain areas/communities it is almost an embarrassment to be straight
All I can say is that any type of homosexual behavior should be discouraged marriage it no marriage.It's not like the marriage of a same-sex couple interferes in any way shape or form with marriages of straight couples. I'm 100% straight and I don't mind the idea of having 2 guys or 2 girls that really love each-other getting married.
I never got why people oppose stuff that doesn't interfere with them. What can you do that g-d can't do? He can deliver any form of punishment he sees fit and you don't have to do a thing.
on a personal level, i dont really have much to say about gay people, but on a political level, i don't think its the state's business to decide which consenting adults can marry and which can'tthe whole concept of being gay is questionable because if you like men why do gays try to look like woman and act like woman the only reason people say their gay is
low self confidence: scared a girl will turn them down and feel more secure within their own
PR: a lot of big celebrities when the press stops speaking about them they "discover" that they were always gay and all the hot chicks they had were just a misunderstanding
or just simple attention seeking people in certain areas/communities it is almost an embarrassment to be straight
you do realize that that's just a stupid stereotype? all of the ancient Greek militaries were full of homos, yes those same millitaries that were depicted in 300.
[/quote]All I can say is that any type of homosexual behavior should be discouraged marriage it no marriage.It's not like the marriage of a same-sex couple interferes in any way shape or form with marriages of straight couples. I'm 100% straight and I don't mind the idea of having 2 guys or 2 girls that really love each-other getting married.
I never got why people oppose stuff that doesn't interfere with them. What can you do that g-d can't do? He can deliver any form of punishment he sees fit and you don't have to do a thing.
on a personal level, i dont really have much to say about gay people, but on a political level, i don't think its the state's business to decide which consenting adults can marry and which can't
gay marriage is Marxist? what does re-distribution of wealth have to do with homosexuality?Marxism is about destroying religion and reprogramming the people with militantly humanistic values.