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Title: Iran leaves us no choice. Israel must expand its borders as nuclear deterrent
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on September 15, 2010, 05:34:07 PM
Because of Israel's small size, it will be very difficult to sustain a nuclear attack.  Given that Iran has now developed nuclear weapons, Israel has no choice but to expand its borders in self-defense.   We must take over neighboring Arab countries and populate them with Jews from different parts of Israel and from the diaspora, maintaining settlements and Israeli military presence, gradually empowering (and arming) these groups of Jews to become self-sufficient in defense and ability to wipe out amalek so that IDF presence can eventually leave.  Of course no Arabs we conquer will have any voting rights or say in Israel's leadership.  There must be an emergency aliyah plan where Jews from all over the world will be resettled in various places of current middle eastern countries, upon conquest by Israel.   Either we attack Iran now, or this is the only logical step for self-defense that we will need to take in the next 5 years or so.
Title: Re: Iran leaves us no choice. Israel must expand its borders as nuclear deterrent
Post by: TruthSpreader on September 15, 2010, 06:39:35 PM
I agree. All the lands as in the picture of Israel in my signature belong to Israel!!!


Title: Re: Iran leaves us no choice. Israel must expand its borders as nuclear deterrent
Post by: Meerkat on September 15, 2010, 06:40:39 PM
and if israel does acquire all that land, it will be able to strike iran more easily.
Title: Re: Iran leaves us no choice. Israel must expand its borders as nuclear deterrent
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on September 15, 2010, 07:15:23 PM
and if israel does acquire all that land, it will be able to strike iran more easily.

Good point.
Title: Re: Iran leaves us no choice. Israel must expand its borders as nuclear deterrent
Post by: Yaakov Mendel on September 16, 2010, 06:23:19 AM
Because of Israel's small size, it will be very difficult to sustain a nuclear attack.  Given that Iran has now developed nuclear weapons, Israel has no choice but to expand its borders in self-defense.   We must take over neighboring Arab countries and populate them with Jews from different parts of Israel and from the diaspora, maintaining settlements and Israeli military presence, gradually empowering (and arming) these groups of Jews to become self-sufficient in defense and ability to wipe out amalek so that IDF presence can eventually leave.  Of course no Arabs we conquer will have any voting rights or say in Israel's leadership.  There must be an emergency aliyah plan where Jews from all over the world will be resettled in various places of current middle eastern countries, upon conquest by Israel.   Either we attack Iran now, or this is the only logical step for self-defense that we will need to take in the next 5 years or so.

No offense, KWR BT, but I find your idea unrealistic. American and European Jews don't even want to come and live within the current state of Israel. You're gonna have a very hard time convincing them to leave their current homes in America or in Europe to move to heavily armed bunkers within occupied Syria or Jordan, in the midst of hostile populations, without the jobs and the money they used to have...
The only solution is to strike Iran now.
Title: Re: Iran leaves us no choice. Israel must expand its borders as nuclear deterrent
Post by: Dr. Dan on September 16, 2010, 07:24:20 AM
I am no prophet but watch hash work His magic.


Because of Israel's small size, it will be very difficult to sustain a nuclear attack.  Given that Iran has now developed nuclear weapons, Israel has no choice but to expand its borders in self-defense.   We must take over neighboring Arab countries and populate them with Jews from different parts of Israel and from the diaspora, maintaining settlements and Israeli military presence, gradually empowering (and arming) these groups of Jews to become self-sufficient in defense and ability to wipe out amalek so that IDF presence can eventually leave.  Of course no Arabs we conquer will have any voting rights or say in Israel's leadership.  There must be an emergency aliyah plan where Jews from all over the world will be resettled in various places of current middle eastern countries, upon conquest by Israel.   Either we attack Iran now, or this is the only logical step for self-defense that we will need to take in the next 5 years or so.

No offense, KWR BT, but I find your idea unrealistic. American and European Jews don't even want to come and live within the current state of Israel. You're gonna have a very hard time convincing them to leave their current homes in America or in Europe to move to heavily armed bunkers within occupied Syria or Jordan, in the midst of hostile populations, without the jobs and the money they used to have...
The only solution is to strike Iran now.

Title: Re: Iran leaves us no choice. Israel must expand its borders as nuclear deterrent
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on September 16, 2010, 11:45:45 AM
Because of Israel's small size, it will be very difficult to sustain a nuclear attack.  Given that Iran has now developed nuclear weapons, Israel has no choice but to expand its borders in self-defense.   We must take over neighboring Arab countries and populate them with Jews from different parts of Israel and from the diaspora, maintaining settlements and Israeli military presence, gradually empowering (and arming) these groups of Jews to become self-sufficient in defense and ability to wipe out amalek so that IDF presence can eventually leave.  Of course no Arabs we conquer will have any voting rights or say in Israel's leadership.  There must be an emergency aliyah plan where Jews from all over the world will be resettled in various places of current middle eastern countries, upon conquest by Israel.   Either we attack Iran now, or this is the only logical step for self-defense that we will need to take in the next 5 years or so.

No offense, KWR BT, but I find your idea unrealistic. American and European Jews don't even want to come and live within the current state of Israel. You're gonna have a very hard time convincing them to leave their current homes in America or in Europe to move to heavily armed bunkers within occupied Syria or Jordan, in the midst of hostile populations, without the jobs and the money they used to have...
The only solution is to strike Iran now.


Yes, that is the biggest weakness to my plan.  And it's the biggest weakness of the Jewish people right now.  No national perspective, only individual and/or communal.
Title: Re: Iran leaves us no choice. Israel must expand its borders as nuclear deterrent
Post by: Secularbeliever on September 16, 2010, 12:09:53 PM
There is an excellent book called "The Case for a Larger Israel" in which an Attorney from Berkeley (having lived there myself I can tell you there are a few sane people) lays out the argument that rather than shrinking its borders Israel should expand its borders.  He does not advocate war (he does not say how this would be accomplished) but his point is that when territorial concessions are demanded of Israel, the answer should be "we are too small not too big"  I believe it is still free to read it.


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