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Title: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: MasterWolf1 on October 27, 2010, 03:49:17 PM
He wants without question drug tests for welfare bums that they not on the dope on our dime.  In all my life living in NY I have never heard anybody like him.  He is on the conservative line.. Row B.
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: MasterWolf1 on October 27, 2010, 03:51:40 PM
I want them tested for both drug and alcohol.  That will eliminate a good amount from welfare cause most of them are druggies, alchie junkies
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on October 27, 2010, 04:30:03 PM
He wants without question drug tests for welfare bums that they not on the dope on our dime.  In all my life living in NY I have never heard anybody like him.  He is on the conservative line.. Row B.

Ha!   That's great!   
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Rubystars on October 27, 2010, 05:25:47 PM
Now if only he'd propose birth control and get that passed too, but drug tests are a good start. I hope he wins.
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: FreedomFighter08 on October 27, 2010, 05:31:40 PM
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Now if only he'd propose birth control and get that passed too, but drug tests are a good start. I hope he wins.

What the hell?
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Dr. Dan on October 27, 2010, 09:37:31 PM
 better yet, give them $500 to have a one way ticket out of this country....

Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: IsraelForever on October 27, 2010, 09:44:11 PM
better yet, give them $500 to have a one way ticket out of this country....


In Haiti, they'd be millionaires!
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: MasterWolf1 on October 28, 2010, 12:58:02 AM
So far I like what he is saying and I want to do all that we can if we can to stop Cuomo,, Cuomo is also a heavily supporter of Hillary Clinton.  I think more of her then Obammie, but still Hillary is a leftist communist dyke
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Rubystars on October 28, 2010, 04:29:22 AM
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Now if only he'd propose birth control and get that passed too, but drug tests are a good start. I hope he wins.

What the hell?

A lot of people on welfare have more kids so they can get more benefits. If they can't afford to even feed themselves (in theory) and need help from the government to make ends meet, why are they having more children? I don't think it should be mandatory, but I do think that they should get a bonus for being on birth control (it will save more money in the long run).
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: MasterWolf1 on October 28, 2010, 08:21:16 AM
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Now if only he'd propose birth control and get that passed too, but drug tests are a good start. I hope he wins.

What the hell?

A lot of people on welfare have more kids so they can get more benefits. If they can't afford to even feed themselves (in theory) and need help from the government to make ends meet, why are they having more children? I don't think it should be mandatory, but I do think that they should get a bonus for being on birth control (it will save more money in the long run).

Got that right.. And they become a baby factory just for that extra monthly pay that they sure as hell didn't earn it.
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Yaakov Mendel on October 28, 2010, 11:36:47 AM
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Now if only he'd propose birth control and get that passed too, but drug tests are a good start. I hope he wins.

What the hell?

A lot of people on welfare have more kids so they can get more benefits. If they can't afford to even feed themselves (in theory) and need help from the government to make ends meet, why are they having more children? I don't think it should be mandatory, but I do think that they should get a bonus for being on birth control (it will save more money in the long run).

You're right, but why refrain from making it mandatory ? This would be an excellent deterrent against opportunistic use of welfare benefits as well as against third world immigration.
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: CorrieDeservedIt on October 28, 2010, 12:17:59 PM
My first time voting at age 19 and i'll make this vote count :)
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: FreedomFighter08 on October 28, 2010, 01:19:25 PM
Can't vote yet. A year away from the legal voting age. I would vote for Carl though.

Oh and I hope some of you that are extremists here understand that not everybody on welfare is a bum. Many people I know have went on unemployment for some time after working at the same place for 15 to 20 years because they couldn't find a job right away.

Something I don't understand as well is that the religious people here are against female birth control (pill, condoms, etc.) but some want to force people they don't know to be sterilized. Pretty insane. This reminds me of the Christian pro life groups that support torture and the Death Penalty. "Right To Life" indeed huh?
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on October 28, 2010, 01:52:45 PM
Can't vote yet. A year away from the legal voting age. I would vote for Carl though.

Oh and I hope some of you that are extremists here understand that not everybody on welfare is a bum. Many people I know have went on unemployment for some time after working at the same place for 15 to 20 years because they couldn't find a job right away. 

That's the whole point.   Those people actually deserve and need the money.    And yet they are being robbed of their just benefits by the many hordes of bums who milk the system and never put a decent life together.   That's why Paladino's measure is important to root out some of those bums.

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Something I don't understand as well is that the religious people here are against female birth control (pill, condoms, etc.) but some want to force people they don't know to be sterilized. Pretty insane. This reminds me of the Christian pro life groups that support torture and the Death Penalty. "Right To Life" indeed huh?

Where did someone call for sterilization?   You are the only one in this thread whose brain jumped to that conclusion and started pimping this nutty rhetoric against so-called "extremists."   Wow, you're the big hero "moderate" - want a cookie?   
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Yaakov Mendel on October 28, 2010, 01:53:34 PM
Oh and I hope some of you that are extremists here understand that not everybody on welfare is a bum. Many people I know have went on unemployment for some time after working at the same place for 15 to 20 years because they couldn't find a job right away.

True. That is why we must make sure we have the resources to preserve a social security net for honest people who share our basic values and culture and want to work, which implies that we should stop squandering our money on parasites or on people who hate us.
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Rubystars on October 28, 2010, 03:19:23 PM
Can't vote yet. A year away from the legal voting age. I would vote for Carl though.

Oh and I hope some of you that are extremists here understand that not everybody on welfare is a bum. Many people I know have went on unemployment for some time after working at the same place for 15 to 20 years because they couldn't find a job right away.

Welfare should only be available for people like that, who need it on a temporary basis. However you have to face that fact that some make a career out of it.

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Something I don't understand as well is that the religious people here are against female birth control (pill, condoms, etc.) but some want to force people they don't know to be sterilized. Pretty insane.

I never wanted to permanently sterilize anyone. I do think they should be given more benefits if they choose to temporarily be sterilized voluntarily. I'm not really against birth control either. Condoms for example don't hurt anybody unless they have a latex allergy. I think a lot of Catholics are against condoms, but not even all of them are.

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This reminds me of the Christian pro life groups that support torture and the Death Penalty. "Right To Life" indeed huh?


The Bible supports the death penalty.
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Rubystars on October 28, 2010, 03:21:48 PM
You're right, but why refrain from making it mandatory ? This would be an excellent deterrent against opportunistic use of welfare benefits as well as against third world immigration.

For one thing it would never pass if it was mandatory, and would probably be considered unconstitutional. For another thing, I don't really feel comfortable saying that if someone falls on hard times that they must be put on some kind of birth control that could potentially cause blood clots or have other side-effects. I think it should be voluntary for that reason, but the incentive should be enough that many would choose it.
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: FreedomFighter08 on October 28, 2010, 04:54:53 PM
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That's the whole point.   Those people actually deserve and need the money.    And yet they are being robbed of their just benefits by the many hordes of bums who milk the system and never put a decent life together.   That's why Paladino's measure is important to root out some of those bums.

I agree. My statement was to the people who believe in forced sterilization for EVERYBODY on welfare.

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However you have to face that fact that some make a career out of it.

I agree that some do. That's why I think that time limited welfare is a much smarter plan or at least welfare only during the recession part of the economic cycle.
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on October 28, 2010, 05:24:33 PM
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That's the whole point.   Those people actually deserve and need the money.    And yet they are being robbed of their just benefits by the many hordes of bums who milk the system and never put a decent life together.   That's why Paladino's measure is important to root out some of those bums.

I agree. My statement was to the people who believe in forced sterilization for EVERYBODY on welfare. 

Who were those people?  Can you point to any particular comments?
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: cjd on October 28, 2010, 05:58:34 PM
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That's the whole point.   Those people actually deserve and need the money.    And yet they are being robbed of their just benefits by the many hordes of bums who milk the system and never put a decent life together.   That's why Paladino's measure is important to root out some of those bums.

I agree. My statement was to the people who believe in forced sterilization for EVERYBODY on welfare. 

Who were those people?  Can you point to any particular comments?
Yes, people who go on to welfare should be put on Norplant... Why should the taxpayer pay for people to sit home and [censored] out one kid after another?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norplant
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: muman613 on October 28, 2010, 06:45:35 PM
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That's the whole point.   Those people actually deserve and need the money.    And yet they are being robbed of their just benefits by the many hordes of bums who milk the system and never put a decent life together.   That's why Paladino's measure is important to root out some of those bums.

I agree. My statement was to the people who believe in forced sterilization for EVERYBODY on welfare. 

Who were those people?  Can you point to any particular comments?
Yes, people who go on to welfare should be put on Norplant... Why should the taxpayer pay for people to sit home and [censored] out one kid after another?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norplant

I strongly disagree with your sentiment. It is ideas like yours which lead to the horrors of the Holocaust. I will not compare you with Hitler but your recent comments do indicate that you think like the Nazi bastard...

Forced sterilization of 'welfare recipients'
Human beings called 'worse than animals'.

Hmm... I am glad you have no power..

There are so many problems with your thinking that I do not know where to begin.

I have known many people who were down on their luck and unemployed for long periods of time... They had to collect welfare in order to support their families. Some of these people were able to get out of their predicament and turned their lives around. It would have been a travesty if these people had been forcibly sterilized. I think you must have made your comment without much thought involved. That is the only way I can think that a civilized and intelligent person would make such ridiculous statements..

Judaism teaches that all of humanity was made in the image of G-d himself. You may call them animals, but in Hashems eyes they are his creations. Even if they engage in voodoo and witch-craft, they are still human beings, and you cannot summarily carry out a genocide on them just because you consider them animals.

Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Rubystars on October 28, 2010, 07:47:22 PM
It seems more and more that there's an ever stricter test for ideological purity and unfortunately I think if it gets any stricter, many of our long-time members will not be able to pass it. If we don't pass it, we automatically get thrown into the "Nazi" category.  :o

It's getting tedious.
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: cjd on October 28, 2010, 08:29:15 PM
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That's the whole point.   Those people actually deserve and need the money.    And yet they are being robbed of their just benefits by the many hordes of bums who milk the system and never put a decent life together.   That's why Paladino's measure is important to root out some of those bums.

I agree. My statement was to the people who believe in forced sterilization for EVERYBODY on welfare. 

Who were those people?  Can you point to any particular comments?
Yes, people who go on to welfare should be put on Norplant... Why should the taxpayer pay for people to sit home and [censored] out one kid after another?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norplant

I strongly disagree with your sentiment. It is ideas like yours which lead to the horrors of the Holocaust. I will not compare you with Hitler but your recent comments do indicate that you think like the Nazi bastard...

Forced sterilization of 'welfare recipients'
Human beings called 'worse than animals'.

Hmm... I am glad you have no power..

There are so many problems with your thinking that I do not know where to begin.

I have known many people who were down on their luck and unemployed for long periods of time... They had to collect welfare in order to support their families. Some of these people were able to get out of their predicament and turned their lives around. It would have been a travesty if these people had been forcibly sterilized. I think you must have made your comment without much thought involved. That is the only way I can think that a civilized and intelligent person would make such ridiculous statements..

Judaism teaches that all of humanity was made in the image of G-d himself. You may call them animals, but in Hashems eyes they are his creations. Even if they engage in voodoo and witch-craft, they are still human beings, and you cannot summarily carry out a genocide on them just because you consider them animals.


Muman it only the great respect I have for Chaim and our forum that keeps me from really telling you what I think of you but here is a little taste... You won't call me Hitler but almost do... Unlike you I have lived a much longer life and have had dealings with the people I have spoke about in this thread... I have little tolerance for people with a misspent youth and a shicksa marriage who  proselytize Orthodox Judaism by clipping and posting... The best thing you can do is ignore my posts and clip away for the people that wish to read your spam.
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Yaakov Mendel on October 29, 2010, 01:52:04 AM
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That's the whole point.   Those people actually deserve and need the money.    And yet they are being robbed of their just benefits by the many hordes of bums who milk the system and never put a decent life together.   That's why Paladino's measure is important to root out some of those bums.

I agree. My statement was to the people who believe in forced sterilization for EVERYBODY on welfare. 

Who were those people?  Can you point to any particular comments?
Yes, people who go on to welfare should be put on Norplant... Why should the taxpayer pay for people to sit home and [censored] out one kid after another?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norplant

I strongly disagree with your sentiment. It is ideas like yours which lead to the horrors of the Holocaust. I will not compare you with Hitler but your recent comments do indicate that you think like the Nazi bastard...

Forced sterilization of 'welfare recipients'
Human beings called 'worse than animals'.

Hmm... I am glad you have no power..

There are so many problems with your thinking that I do not know where to begin.

I have known many people who were down on their luck and unemployed for long periods of time... They had to collect welfare in order to support their families. Some of these people were able to get out of their predicament and turned their lives around. It would have been a travesty if these people had been forcibly sterilized. I think you must have made your comment without much thought involved. That is the only way I can think that a civilized and intelligent person would make such ridiculous statements..

Judaism teaches that all of humanity was made in the image of G-d himself. You may call them animals, but in Hashems eyes they are his creations. Even if they engage in voodoo and witch-craft, they are still human beings, and you cannot summarily carry out a genocide on them just because you consider them animals.


Muman it only the great respect I have for Chaim and our forum that keeps me from really telling you what I think of you but here is a little taste... You won't call me Hitler but almost do... Unlike you I have lived a much longer life and have had dealings with the people I have spoke about in this thread... I have little tolerance for people with a misspent youth and a shicksa marriage who  proselytize Orthodox Judaism by clipping and posting... The best thing you can do is ignore my posts and clip away for the people that wish to read your spam.

Muman is right. And your personal attacks on him are vile. Shame on you.
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Yaakov Mendel on October 29, 2010, 02:07:50 AM
You're right, but why refrain from making it mandatory ? This would be an excellent deterrent against opportunistic use of welfare benefits as well as against third world immigration.

For one thing it would never pass if it was mandatory, and would probably be considered unconstitutional. For another thing, I don't really feel comfortable saying that if someone falls on hard times that they must be put on some kind of birth control that could potentially cause blood clots or have other side-effects. I think it should be voluntary for that reason, but the incentive should be enough that many would choose it.

To avoid any misunderstanding, I never called for the sterilization of people on welfare, G-d forbid ! I was just asking myself whether it was legitimate to ask people on welfare to postpone their possible decision to have children, the time that they get a job and that they can earn a living.
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: nessuno on October 29, 2010, 04:09:25 AM
If you must be on welfare you shouldn't be having more children anyway.
That is while you are receiving it. Right?
Just like any normal thinking person on hard times wouldn't be having more children.
The incentive for taking birth control while on welfare should be...you get pregnant you get off welfare.
Too bad about a welfare recipients rights...moral or immoral person.  Welfare is not a right.  If you don't like the rules, then you would have to find an alternative source of money.
What about my girlfriend?  She went on welfare right after her divorce.  The ex husband was not contributing to the raising of her son.  She went back to nursing school at the same time.  Just as she was about to finish her degree they told her she no longer qualified.  The mother of one child who was trying to better herself.  She had to fight and claw her way to her career. Had she been pregnant...it would have been no problem.  A free ride.
I thought 'mandatory' sterilization too.  I don't know what that makes me.  I don't care.
It really is possible to not have children without taking medication though, so I'm not so worried for the welfare recipients health. 
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Rubystars on October 29, 2010, 04:49:30 AM
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The incentive for taking birth control while on welfare should be...you get pregnant you get off welfare.

The thing that would disturb me about this option is that some people would be inclined to hide their pregnancies or even get abortions. Some people might not care about the abortions, but I think even black babies should not be aborted, they're still innocent.
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: nessuno on October 29, 2010, 06:30:56 AM
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The incentive for taking birth control while on welfare should be...you get pregnant you get off welfare.

The thing that would disturb me about this option is that some people would be inclined to hide their pregnancies or even get abortions. Some people might not care about the abortions, but I think even black babies should not be aborted, they're still innocent.

I would not say, I don't care about the abortions.
I don't think being born a 'welfare ticket' is the best option either.
Therein lies the problem.
So we should just all kick in our share...and shut up.


Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Rubystars on October 29, 2010, 07:16:15 AM
Bullcat you make a good point. It's really sad to see how some of those welfare babies are treated by their parents too. And of course they're brought up in the ghetto culture.
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on October 29, 2010, 11:20:06 AM
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That's the whole point.   Those people actually deserve and need the money.    And yet they are being robbed of their just benefits by the many hordes of bums who milk the system and never put a decent life together.   That's why Paladino's measure is important to root out some of those bums.

I agree. My statement was to the people who believe in forced sterilization for EVERYBODY on welfare. 

Who were those people?  Can you point to any particular comments?
Yes, people who go on to welfare should be put on Norplant... Why should the taxpayer pay for people to sit home and [censored] out one kid after another?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norplant

That's insane.  What if the person finds a new job within 9 months?!
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: cjd on October 29, 2010, 02:38:38 PM
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That's the whole point.   Those people actually deserve and need the money.    And yet they are being robbed of their just benefits by the many hordes of bums who milk the system and never put a decent life together.   That's why Paladino's measure is important to root out some of those bums.

I agree. My statement was to the people who believe in forced sterilization for EVERYBODY on welfare. 

Who were those people?  Can you point to any particular comments?
Yes, people who go on to welfare should be put on Norplant... Why should the taxpayer pay for people to sit home and [censored] out one kid after another?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norplant

That's insane.  What if the person finds a new job within 9 months?!

Norplant is  temporary!! When the people go off the dole they can get it removed and go back into the baby making business... Welfare is a handout!! The people that get it should be willing to go along with the so called program... Recipients should be out looking for work and not producing more mouths to feed... I often wonder about the motivations of people that get so upset over temporary birth control....Are they welfare sponges themselves or goodhearted people...I often wonder.
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: cjd on October 29, 2010, 02:40:46 PM
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That's the whole point.   Those people actually deserve and need the money.    And yet they are being robbed of their just benefits by the many hordes of bums who milk the system and never put a decent life together.   That's why Paladino's measure is important to root out some of those bums.

I agree. My statement was to the people who believe in forced sterilization for EVERYBODY on welfare. 

Who were those people?  Can you point to any particular comments?
Yes, people who go on to welfare should be put on Norplant... Why should the taxpayer pay for people to sit home and [censored] out one kid after another?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norplant

I strongly disagree with your sentiment. It is ideas like yours which lead to the horrors of the Holocaust. I will not compare you with Hitler but your recent comments do indicate that you think like the Nazi bastard...

Forced sterilization of 'welfare recipients'
Human beings called 'worse than animals'.

Hmm... I am glad you have no power..

There are so many problems with your thinking that I do not know where to begin.

I have known many people who were down on their luck and unemployed for long periods of time... They had to collect welfare in order to support their families. Some of these people were able to get out of their predicament and turned their lives around. It would have been a travesty if these people had been forcibly sterilized. I think you must have made your comment without much thought involved. That is the only way I can think that a civilized and intelligent person would make such ridiculous statements..

Judaism teaches that all of humanity was made in the image of G-d himself. You may call them animals, but in Hashems eyes they are his creations. Even if they engage in voodoo and witch-craft, they are still human beings, and you cannot summarily carry out a genocide on them just because you consider them animals.


Muman it only the great respect I have for Chaim and our forum that keeps me from really telling you what I think of you but here is a little taste... You won't call me Hitler but almost do... Unlike you I have lived a much longer life and have had dealings with the people I have spoke about in this thread... I have little tolerance for people with a misspent youth and a shicksa marriage who  proselytize Orthodox Judaism by clipping and posting... The best thing you can do is ignore my posts and clip away for the people that wish to read your spam.

Muman is right. And your personal attacks on him are vile. Shame on you.
Birds of a feather... You have a nice shabbat for yourself.
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on October 30, 2010, 08:42:41 PM
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That's the whole point.   Those people actually deserve and need the money.    And yet they are being robbed of their just benefits by the many hordes of bums who milk the system and never put a decent life together.   That's why Paladino's measure is important to root out some of those bums.

I agree. My statement was to the people who believe in forced sterilization for EVERYBODY on welfare. 

Who were those people?  Can you point to any particular comments?
Yes, people who go on to welfare should be put on Norplant... Why should the taxpayer pay for people to sit home and [censored] out one kid after another?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norplant

That's insane.  What if the person finds a new job within 9 months?!

Norplant is  temporary!! When the people go off the dole they can get it removed and go back into the baby making business... Welfare is a handout!! The people that get it should be willing to go along with the so called program... Recipients should be out looking for work and not producing more mouths to feed... I often wonder about the motivations of people that get so upset over temporary birth control....Are they welfare sponges themselves or goodhearted people...I often wonder.

The wiki article you linked to said it works for 5 years.

I have never received welfare payments.
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: cjd on October 30, 2010, 09:33:05 PM
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That's the whole point.   Those people actually deserve and need the money.    And yet they are being robbed of their just benefits by the many hordes of bums who milk the system and never put a decent life together.   That's why Paladino's measure is important to root out some of those bums.

I agree. My statement was to the people who believe in forced sterilization for EVERYBODY on welfare. 

Who were those people?  Can you point to any particular comments?
Yes, people who go on to welfare should be put on Norplant... Why should the taxpayer pay for people to sit home and [censored] out one kid after another?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norplant

That's insane.  What if the person finds a new job within 9 months?!

Norplant is  temporary!! When the people go off the dole they can get it removed and go back into the baby making business... Welfare is a handout!! The people that get it should be willing to go along with the so called program... Recipients should be out looking for work and not producing more mouths to feed... I often wonder about the motivations of people that get so upset over temporary birth control....Are they welfare sponges themselves or goodhearted people...I often wonder.

The wiki article you linked to said it works for 5 years.

I have never received welfare payments.
Reread the articles removal section... It says it lasts up to 5 years however if pregnancy is desired it can be removed before then. I myself would not want to see people starving in the streets however there is a limit to the resources that can be set aside for helping them...Sadly for  a good part of welfare recipients the system becomes a way of life from generation to generation... It becomes like a circle of life. If the system is to comfortable the cycle will never be broken.
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on October 30, 2010, 10:07:42 PM
Since this was made personal,

Have you ever been laid off?


Have you ever been laid off during a recession like the one we're currently in?

Do you have a college degree?
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on October 30, 2010, 10:51:55 PM
Norplant is a joke. Let's make getting sterilized the precondition of these creatures getting welfare. Better yet, let's offer to give them a lump sum of money in exchange for going back to Africa and getting their tubes tied.
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on October 30, 2010, 10:52:52 PM
Norplant is a joke. Let's make getting sterilized the precondition of these creatures getting welfare. Better yet, let's offer to give them a lump sum of money in exchange for going back to Africa and getting their tubes tied.

Are you aware that welfare benefits are not only given to black criminals and bums exclusively?
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on October 30, 2010, 10:56:05 PM
Are you aware that welfare benefits are not only given to black criminals and bums exclusively?
I was referring exclusively to them and not trying to claim that any person who has ever received any public aid at any time is evil, but for the record I think that the white and Hispanic welfare bums should get the same treatment.
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on October 30, 2010, 10:58:36 PM
Are you aware that welfare benefits are not only given to black criminals and bums exclusively?
I was referring exclusively to them and not trying to claim that any person who has ever received any public aid at any time is evil, but for the record I think that the white and Hispanic welfare bums should get the same treatment.

But with all that aside, people on this forum need to realize that when a person gets laid off from their job (to no fault of their own), and they have a family to feed, and they have to then look for new employment, welfare helps such a person stay on their feet while they look for a new job.   There are thousands and thousands of americans who have been laid off in this economic downturn, and some have met great difficulty in finding a new job.
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on October 30, 2010, 11:02:39 PM
Of course my heart goes out to them. I'm not going to go into any details but there have been phases of my life where I wasn't that far from that in fact.

However, I still think that most sane people can distinguish a family on hard times from Queen Laquisha (or Socorro) and her litter and absentee, deadbeat husband (or current shackjob honey) milking Uncle Sam for the majority of their reproductive lives. Some of the Laquisha welfare queens actually have jobs of some sort, jobs that a more deserving poor person should get but didn't because of racial preferences, and are on welfare anyway because they don't earn nearly enough at them to feed their seven mouths and bum boyfriends.
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on October 30, 2010, 11:17:17 PM
Of course my heart goes out to them. I'm not going to go into any details but there have been phases of my life where I wasn't that far from that in fact.

However, I still think that most sane people can distinguish a family on hard times from Queen Laquisha (or Socorro) and her litter and absentee, deadbeat husband (or current shackjob honey) milking Uncle Sam for the majority of their reproductive lives. Some of the Laquisha welfare queens actually have jobs of some sort, jobs that a more deserving poor person should get but didn't because of racial preferences, and are on welfare anyway because they don't earn nearly enough at them to feed their seven mouths and bum boyfriends.

I understand the queen laquisha thing  ;D   , but when you force sterilization for receipt of welfare benefits, you are sterilizing more than just bums and queen laquishas.  It would be for everyone.
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on October 30, 2010, 11:33:25 PM
How about offering any lowlife, of any race, a nice lump cash sum to leave this country and get sterilized?
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: nessuno on October 31, 2010, 04:41:02 AM
Are you aware that welfare benefits are not only given to black criminals and bums exclusively?
I was referring exclusively to them and not trying to claim that any person who has ever received any public aid at any time is evil, but for the record I think that the white and Hispanic welfare bums should get the same treatment.

But with all that aside, people on this forum need to realize that when a person gets laid off from their job (to no fault of their own), and they have a family to feed, and they have to then look for new employment, welfare helps such a person stay on their feet while they look for a new job.   There are thousands and thousands of americans who have been laid off in this economic downturn, and some have met great difficulty in finding a new job.
There is less for them.  The fraudsters are stealing from them.
We are talking about the people who abuse the system.  The people who consider collecting a welfare check 'work'.  Welfare should be a bridge back to stability. 
How do you deal with the 'bad apples'?  The ones who know how to milk the system.
There must be some criteria and for sure it will never be politically correct.  Still, we need to ensure the assistance is there for those who truly need it.  Black, white or orange.
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: cjd on October 31, 2010, 07:25:32 AM
Are you aware that welfare benefits are not only given to black criminals and bums exclusively?
I was referring exclusively to them and not trying to claim that any person who has ever received any public aid at any time is evil, but for the record I think that the white and Hispanic welfare bums should get the same treatment.

But with all that aside, people on this forum need to realize that when a person gets laid off from their job (to no fault of their own), and they have a family to feed, and they have to then look for new employment, welfare helps such a person stay on their feet while they look for a new job.   There are thousands and thousands of americans who have been laid off in this economic downturn, and some have met great difficulty in finding a new job.
Well there is always unemployment insurance for people that are required to take it or buy it on their own.... It holds up for two years now thanks to the shvartza President "Bless his black heart" :jump: After working and paying into it for thirty five years never collecting a cent myself  ??? there should be plenty for some other folks.
Title: Re: Carl Paladino gave me another reason to vote for him.
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on October 31, 2010, 01:09:27 PM
Are you aware that welfare benefits are not only given to black criminals and bums exclusively?
I was referring exclusively to them and not trying to claim that any person who has ever received any public aid at any time is evil, but for the record I think that the white and Hispanic welfare bums should get the same treatment.

But with all that aside, people on this forum need to realize that when a person gets laid off from their job (to no fault of their own), and they have a family to feed, and they have to then look for new employment, welfare helps such a person stay on their feet while they look for a new job.   There are thousands and thousands of americans who have been laid off in this economic downturn, and some have met great difficulty in finding a new job.
Well there is always unemployment insurance for people that are required to take it or buy it on their own.... It holds up for two years now thanks to the shvartza President "Bless his black heart" :jump: After working and paying into it for thirty five years never collecting a cent myself  ??? there should be plenty for some other folks.

Just curious, do you have a union job?