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Title: I am getting tired of all the lies that many people say about baruch goldstein!
Post by: The proud Jew on January 13, 2011, 06:47:27 PM
Does anyone know if chaim had a video on this where he quotes the facts with reliable souurces as what he always does.
Title: Re: I am getting tired of all the lies that many people say about baruch goldstein!
Post by: Secularbeliever on January 13, 2011, 06:59:21 PM
Does anyone know if chaim had a video on this where he quotes the facts with reliable souurces as what he always does.

I don't know who tells lies about him.  The only area of contention seems to be whether he was acting in preemption of an Arab attack that he had inside information of.  I find that claim somewhat dubioius and suspect that he snapped after seeing friends killed.
Title: Re: I am getting tired of all the lies that many people say about baruch goldstein!
Post by: The proud Jew on January 13, 2011, 07:45:41 PM
that claim is not dubious and is infact true. He didnt want to see any of his friends die and he got word from the higher ups in the idf prepare to treat more casulties so he decided to go kill  20 arabs prayiong before they wouldve went on there plan. I dont know if the terreorists had guns underneath the rugs but im glad he stopped the plan. That Hero is always being slandered by the media etc.
Title: Re: I am getting tired of all the lies that many people say about baruch goldstein!
Post by: TruthSpreader on January 13, 2011, 07:49:41 PM
Does anyone know if chaim had a video on this where he quotes the facts with reliable souurces as what he always does.

Watch this video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRzoGGkeZOg
Title: Re: I am getting tired of all the lies that many people say about baruch goldstein!
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on January 13, 2011, 08:50:35 PM
Dr. Goldstein (may G-d avenge his blood) is a hero without comparison.
Title: Re: I am getting tired of all the lies that many people say about baruch goldstein!
Post by: muman613 on January 13, 2011, 08:56:58 PM
From what I understand he is a hero... If only we could recognize it without fear...

Title: Re: I am getting tired of all the lies that many people say about baruch goldstein!
Post by: danny100 on January 13, 2011, 10:30:02 PM
Unfortunatley A poll of 500 Israeli adults for the International Centre for Peace in the Middle East found that 78.8 percent of people condemned the Hebron attack while 3.6 percent praised Goldstein. 3/4/94 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_of_the_Patriarchs_massacre#Israeli_public
Title: Re: I am getting tired of all the lies that many people say about baruch goldstein!
Post by: The proud Jew on January 13, 2011, 10:33:26 PM
Thats because those jews only heard a one sided story created by the boulshavic establishment
Title: Re: I am getting tired of all the lies that many people say about baruch goldstein!
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on January 13, 2011, 11:05:50 PM
Unfortunatley A poll of 500 Israeli adults for the International Centre for Peace in the Middle East found that 78.8 percent of people condemned the Hebron attack while 3.6 percent praised Goldstein. 3/4/94 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_of_the_Patriarchs_massacre#Israeli_public
We've already established that most Israelis are self-hating.
Title: Re: I am getting tired of all the lies that many people say about baruch goldstein!
Post by: Ari Ben-Canaan on January 14, 2011, 01:07:21 AM

From Chaim:

http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=410cg4oqFpk

"Was Baruch Goldstein a member of JDL?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRzoGGkeZOg

"Chaim tells the story of Baruch Goldstein"

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http://www.angelfire.com/anime5/danilin/PodeUmatzil.htm

This is an long article written in mind of Baruch Goldstein, "Baruch HaGever".  It is laden with many detailed facts about the Bolshevik cover-up and more.

May his blood be avenged!!
Title: Re: I am getting tired of all the lies that many people say about baruch goldstein!
Post by: Ari Ben-Canaan on January 14, 2011, 01:12:50 AM
Here are the topics addressed in the article I posted:

    * PREFACE BY THE TRANSLATOR
    * INTRODUCTION
    * THE SECURITY SITUATION IN YESHA
    * THE ARAB UPRISING (THE INTIFADA)
    * THE CONDUCT OF THE ARMY
    * THE SITUATION OF THE POLICE
    * THE BEHAVIOR OF THE JUSTICE SYSTEM
    * THE CONDUCT OF THE SETTLERS
    * A POLITICAL ASSASSINATION IN ISRAEL
    * THE ATTEMPTED MURDER OF RABBI KAHANE
    * CHARACTER ASSASSION OF THE SETTLERS
    * TERRORIST ACTS AND THE MASSACRE OF JEWS BY ARABS AT THE MACHPELAH CAVE (the Mearah)
    * BARUCH'S REACTION
    * WARNINGS ABOUT A MASSACRE BY ARABS OF JEWS COMING TO PRAY AT MEARAT HAMACHPELAH ON PURIM 1994
    * BEHAVIOR OF THE ARABS IN MEARAT HAMACHPELAH BEFORE THE MASSACRE
    * ASSESSMENT BY THE SECURITY FORCES OF THE "ACUTE WARNINGS"
    * DID THE ARABS SMUGGLE WEAPONS INTO THE MEARAH?
    * CONCLUSION
    * RECOMMENDATIONS
Title: Re: I am getting tired of all the lies that many people say about baruch goldstein!
Post by: Secularbeliever on January 14, 2011, 12:05:21 PM
We've already established that most Israelis are self-hating.

Maybe they just don't believe the preemption story.  The idea that he was told of an upcoming massacre that the Israelis knew about but would not or could not prevent and that only he was told and he told nobody but his parents (who only mentioned it after the fact) just does not strike me as credible.  I would like to believe that his action was righteous but it just does not ring as real to me.  I know I am in the minority here on that but most real non Kahanist nationalists I know of do not believe that either.  I am still willing to be convinced if there is more credible evidence of the claim.
Title: Re: I am getting tired of all the lies that many people say about baruch goldstein!
Post by: The proud Jew on January 14, 2011, 07:22:34 PM
We've already established that most Israelis are self-hating.

I disagree. Most israelis voted for ysrael beitanu and likud cuz they sounded strong and are fed up about everthing. Most israelis loved rabbi kahane so i dont think israeli jews are self hating
Title: Re: I am getting tired of all the lies that many people say about baruch goldstein!
Post by: danny100 on January 15, 2011, 03:34:56 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/interview-avigdor-lieberman-israeli-foreign-minister/story?id=10166982 Avigdor Lieberman on March 2010 made Real Right-Wing comments saying No negotiation over Jerusalem and he defends Jewish Communities in Judea and Samaria
Title: Re: I am getting tired of all the lies that many people say about baruch goldstein!
Post by: danny100 on January 15, 2011, 04:48:22 PM
We've already established that most Israelis are self-hating.
If the majority of Israelis hate Baruch Goldstein, the Kahanists cannot take power.
Title: Re: I am getting tired of all the lies that many people say about baruch goldstein!
Post by: The proud Jew on January 15, 2011, 07:07:53 PM
We can take power. They have only heard a one sided story.