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Save Western Civilization => Save Europe => Topic started by: christian_love on June 03, 2007, 05:48:39 PM
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i was just wondering, if soe of us english born agains could start a take back england campaign and make jtf a even more global political movement.
Born again christianity is booming in england now, that the church of england and catholocism is slowly perishing.
I would be happy, or in a joint project with other brits, making sure we make it clear we link JTF.ORG and chaim ben in process.
Sibce america and elgnad are alies, i actually think its possible for this to happen...
Its certainly be better option than the BNP who are all skin headed morons
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The BNP suck. I like this thread. A LOT.
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sounds like a good idea.Born again Christianity is thriving in the U.K.?
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20% of the UK population was not born in the UK, and whites there are set to become a minority by 2050. This is nothing less than the UK deserves for being the birthplace of atheism, Darwinism and evolution, which have ruined the world. The 6th Lubavitcher Rebbe predicted in 1948 that England will one day sink under the waves!" (global warming?!)
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The BNP suck.
What is wrong with BNP? I have gone to their website and read their party program and quite a few articles. I found them unobjectionable.
Isn't it true that BNP has undergone a face-lift in recent years and left behind its anti-semitism? Is there anyone from Great Britain who can comment on this?
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The 6th Lubavitcher Rebbe predicted in 1948 that England will one day sink under the waves!" (global warming?!)
There must be at least a few million Righteous Brits let's pray they are saved
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The BNP suck.
What is wrong with BNP? I have gone to their website and read their party program and quite a few articles. I found them unobjectionable.
Isn't it true that BNP has undergone a face-lift in recent years and left behind its anti-semitism? Is there anyone from Great Britain who can comment on this?
The BNP are racist. They are not even white supremacist, they just hate blacks. It would be a disaster to have them ruling as they would remove the blacks and then do NOTHING else. They have no poicies. They are worse than a bad joke.
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They (the bnp) do have some policies, but I really think they'd be a disaster. Have a look at their site: www.bnp.org.uk/
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Imgine if we could post Chaims vid on there.Many bnp members probably aren'nt true racist but have no party to turn to in the U.K.
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http://www.bnp-forum.co.uk/
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20% of the UK population was not born in the UK, and whites there are set to become a minority by 2050. This is nothing less than the UK deserves for being the birthplace of atheism, Darwinism and evolution, which have ruined the world. The 6th Lubavitcher Rebbe predicted in 1948 that England will one day sink under the waves!" (global warming?!)
i agree, we deserve everything, but that does not stop the fact that born again evangelical churches has risen by 10 percent in the uk.
there are people that have woekn up beleive it or not, and we would be a repsectable right wing movement thats not bigoted like the bnp.
People in the uk are killing for a party like jtf in england, give us english our own youtube interlinked videos and we will save england...
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They (the bnp) do have some policies, but I really think they'd be a disaster. Have a look at their site: www.bnp.org.uk/
I did look. Protectionism, profit sharing in economy. Increased spending on defence, increased law enforcement. Boosting public services, like health care, transport. Taking care of the old. Taking care of cultural heritage, for example, saying "no" to the monstrosities of modern architecture (I'm with Prince Charles on that, although he is a jerk in other respects). Finally, protecting environment, with the immigration question, as I see it, being basically an environmental question. Do we want some species of animals disappear? For most people, resoundly no. Then why do we want the diversity of human race disappear as it surely will if have mixed population everywhere.
Now, I am really asking. I am not challenging. I simply don't know enough, and I'm taking what they say on their website for the face value. As far as I can see, they have taken care to get rid of antisemitic rhetoric, which for me would be a decisive question in supporting any ideology. They are staunchly against islam. A big plus for that.
As far as I see, they are a party with a populist program. Their protectionist politics (not socialist) would not go down well with liberitarians, but I'm not a liberitarian. I have been looking for a party that combines the right-wing attitude regarding religion, moral values, strong defence, and free access to guns with the left-wing attitude regarding social inclusion and adherence to the values of meritocracy (equal start in life and equal educational opportunities). Therefore their program makes sense to me. So please enlighten me why they should not be taken seriously.
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I'd like nothing better than to see Britain take herself back.
I hope to G-d that this happens.
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I'd like nothing better than to see Britain take herself back.
I hope to G-d that this happens.
It really is now or never for Britain. Even at this point it would be a very rough road to recovery.
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It still can be done
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They (the bnp) do have some policies, but I really think they'd be a disaster. Have a look at their site: www.bnp.org.uk/
I did look. Protectionism, profit sharing in economy. Increased spending on defence, increased law enforcement. Boosting public services, like health care, transport. Taking care of the old. Taking care of cultural heritage, for example, saying "no" to the monstrosities of modern architecture (I'm with Prince Charles on that, although he is a jerk in other respects). Finally, protecting environment, with the immigration question, as I see it, being basically an environmental question. Do we want some species of animals disappear? For most people, resoundly no. Then why do we want the diversity of human race disappear as it surely will if have mixed population everywhere.
Now, I am really asking. I am not challenging. I simply don't know enough, and I'm taking what they say on their website for the face value. As far as I can see, they have taken care to get rid of antisemitic rhetoric, which for me would be a decisive question in supporting any ideology. They are staunchly against islam. A big plus for that.
As far as I see, they are a party with a populist program. Their protectionist politics (not socialist) would not go down well with liberitarians, but I'm not a liberitarian. I have been looking for a party that combines the right-wing attitude regarding religion, moral values, strong defence, and free access to guns with the left-wing attitude regarding social inclusion and adherence to the values of meritocracy (equal start in life and equal educational opportunities). Therefore their program makes sense to me. So please enlighten me why they should not be taken seriously.
To be honest I'm taken aback here, they really seam to have changed what they say since I last looked at them, maybe they wouldn't be a disaster, but I don't think they could ever be elected, they are still associated by the public with violent crime against Jews, blacks and other "non-British people".
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But most of anti Jewish crime in the U.K. is Leftist and moslem.Am i correct?
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But most of anti Jewish crime in the U.K. is Leftist and moslem.Am i correct?
To be honest I don't know enough to answer that question.
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But most of anti Jewish crime in the U.K. is Leftist and moslem.Am i correct?
i honestly would happily have a uk meet up with some of the guys and girls from the uk here.
it can be done, there would be people who would vote for us, and would die for a christan voice.
Just because the media is PC rubbish, does not mean there is a large target audience.
But i honestly believe its worth a shot to take back england...
So if any uk ppeople is up for a meet up that would be cool..
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see there is hope, check this guy out...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQx8k0r6meg
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see there is hope, check this guy out...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQx8k0r6meg
That man is great he sounds like US Southern preacher not like a Brit.He's a Christian Chaim ,theres hope for England :laugh:
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But most of anti Jewish crime in the U.K. is Leftist and moslem.Am i correct?
Yep, and there are cases of the police ignoring it too.
Asian youths attacked a Rabbi. He knew their fathers by name. The police did nothing. He was bruised, they were shouting horrible abuse at him and his congregation.
The BNP is still in gestation. I am a member of the party. Members of the party are more likely to be pro-Zionist than the bloke on the street, but they are also more likely to have a touch of anti-Semitism, so things have a long way to go.
Racialism attracts social Darwinists, secularists and other neer-do-wells. The BNP needs to be campaigning on an anti-PC ticket and they should be tougher on the neer-do-wells.
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i honestly would happily have a uk meet up with some of the guys and girls from the uk here.
So if any uk ppeople is up for a meet up that would be cool..
Me, yantan and fruit can often be found in Aberdeen, Scotland. :)
Where are you mate?
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How's Fruit :laugh:
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I think it's a great idea. I've noticed that we are attracting increasing numbers of visitors from Britain not only on our forum but also on our web site.
As Chaim has said, many Britons are deeply concerned about the loss of their country that is taking place. Instead of the anti-Americanism and the anti-Semitism that are so prevalent in Britain today, the British need to recognize that their REAL enemies are the same enemies that confront America and Israel: the corrupt "New World Order" politicians who are destroying ALL Western nations by turning them into Third World banana republics through massive immigration.
These politicians, together with the traitor news media and the multinational corporations, are erasing all national borders. Soon Britain will no longer be an independent nation. Britain will surrender all of her national sovereignty to the European Union. All nations in the European Union will continue to invite Muslims and other Third World immigrants into their countries, and Western civilization will gradually disappear.
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I'm sorry to say this, but England has no future, because it will become: "Al brittan al Islam" there will be no DAWN for Brittan, Union Jack will be crushed and everybody will miss the era of: "Brittan, the empire that rules the waves".
And, by the way, I decided to write the angelo-muslim unofficial anthem (based on a famous brittish folk song): "London bridge is falling down, falling down, falling down, London bridge is falling down, Allah akkbar!".
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Regarding the BNP and their shift away from anti-semitism, it is nothing but facical! I believe that Nick Griffin openly declared that the party was no longer anti-semitic about five years ago, but why on earth should this be believed. The party is still full to the brim with the same members who still hold the same views, it's ridiculous to think that just because Griffin came out and said this that the party members all suddenly stopped being anti-semitic overnight!
Most probably the reson for this turnaround is that fact that the main concern in Britain today is focused on Islam and the BNP are just reacting to this in order to gain support, the focus at present is not on the Jews so there is no point in them going down this road, for now anyway!
There are apparently a few Jewish people in the party and they like to make this known and roll out the token Jew as if this means that they are not anti-semitic anymore! It's nothing but a load of B.S.
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When the BNP came out with the statement, that it wasn't anti-Jewish I too rolled my eyes. Let us keep a watchful eye on them and see if this is true. It just could be that these barroom brawlers have wised up and feel that they really need Jewish brain power and common sense to make a serious movement possible. I say let's keep a close watch on these guys. If what they say turns out true great, if not, we can deal with that latter.
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When the BNP came out with the statement, that it wasn't anti-Jewish I too rolled my eyes. Let us keep a watchful eye on them and see if this is true. It just could be that these barroom brawlers have wised up and feel that they really need Jewish brain power and common sense to make a serious movement possible. I say let's keep a close watch on these guys. If what they say turns out true great, if not, we can deal with that latter.
I really hope so.
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See my post here:
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=4489.0;topicseen
If a BNP Friends of Israel were formed it would complete the transition.
The other political parties in Britain each have a Friends of Israel, the best of which is the Conservative Friends of Israel.
However the C FoE, are an establishment organisation who pretty much sit on the fence. A BNP FoE could do more than that.
fjack, I do not think that Jewish brain power and common sense are needed, but the secularism and social Darwinism which so often accompanies the anti-Zionism within the far-right in Europe is an impediment which must be removed.
The Euro-nationalists need to lose these people as quickly as possible. I reckon half of them are state agents anyway.
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Soon Britain will no longer be an independent nation. Britain will surrender all of her national sovereignty to the European Union. All nations in the European Union will continue to invite Muslims and other Third World immigrants into their countries, and Western civilization will gradually disappear.
Hello my friend, and good day to you.
This is an extremely serious issue, and one I wish Chaim would go into deeper detail on on his show. The sovereignty of the independent European states is being eradicated at a very fast pace (much faster than here in America), and is a precursor to the disastrous North American Union, which is being organized behind the scenes by America's traitorous leaders.
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This Christian revival in England sounds very promising !!
For a while I thought you Lads had resorted back to Paganism ;)
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You alls logic makes no sense to me.The BNP are our allies.To not believe that would be a sin...Politics make strange bedfellows! ;)
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You alls logic makes no sense to me.The BNP are our allies.
To be my ally, the BNP would have to accept anyone of any race or ethnicity who shared Euro-American values. If they're going to exclude people based on race and ethnicity (as opposed to values and behavior), I wouldn't be able to work with them.
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Regarding the BNP and their shift away from anti-semitism, it is nothing but facical! I believe that Nick Griffin openly declared that the party was no longer anti-semitic about five years ago, but why on earth should this be believed. The party is still full to the brim with the same members who still hold the same views, it's ridiculous to think that just because Griffin came out and said this that the party members all suddenly stopped being anti-semitic overnight!
Most probably the reson for this turnaround is that fact that the main concern in Britain today is focused on Islam and the BNP are just reacting to this in order to gain support, the focus at present is not on the Jews so there is no point in them going down this road, for now anyway!
There are apparently a few Jewish people in the party and they like to make this known and roll out the token Jew as if this means that they are not anti-semitic anymore! It's nothing but a load of B.S.
In the run up to the May 3rd council elections across the UK and the elections for the Welsh Assembly and Scottish Parliament it is to be expected that anti-British elements in the mass media, Trade Union movement and the Labour Party will be working together in top gear to spread misinformation, half-truths and downright fabricated lies about the British National Party, its policies and its candidates. With the BNP deemed to be a "threat" in 93 council seats according to research carried out for the Labour Party the stakes have been raised and the show down between the corrupt, tired and treacherous Old Gang trio of Lab-Lib-Con and the new force of renaissance and renewal is set to take place over the next few years at council, Assembly, national and European levels.
Hundreds of thousands of smear leaflets are being printed and distributed in those council areas where both we and the anti-British opposition expect us to do well and even win. Coming second is not good enough, we need to win and win as many seats as we possibly can. When the smear leaflets land on the doormats of your friends and neighbourhoods and when the left-wing press print lies and smears please direct your contacts and colleagues to this web page or print it off in advance. This page tells the truth about the BNP.
i. Why do you disapprove of mixed marriages?
We believe in human diversity and in preserving the individuality and identity of all different ethnic groups. It is sad when a unique human genotype becomes extinct - as has happened around the world in the past and is happening today in the Amazon and in New Guinea. While a small number of mixed marriages – or mixed race children - in Britain won’t, in themselves, make any difference, if this is encouraged however as it is at present by politicians and the media then inevitably the traditional British genotype will be endangered in the long-term.
Environmentalists are always keen to preserve unique animal species in the wild, so why shouldn’t the same principle apply to people? We believe that Britain’s proud history of glorious achievements demonstrates that the British genotype is a valuable one and deserves to be preserved.
It has also been shown that mixed race children often suffer from identity problems, as has been pointed out by people such as Trevor Phillips (chairman of the Commission for Equality and Human Rights).
ii. What is your attitude to homosexuals?
The British National Party is not ‘homophobic’ and believes that what consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedrooms is a matter for them alone and is of no concern to anyone else. On the other hand the BNP is not blinded or cowed by political correctness and recognises that homosexuality, which affects less than 2% of the population, is not the norm and that homosexual relationships do not produce offspring – essential to the survival of a people and a nation.
We therefore believe in a policy of tolerance to all forms of adult sexuality, but homosexuality should not be promoted or encouraged. The BNP supports the traditional ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ attitude to homosexuality and is opposed to the flaunting or celebrating of homosexuality which ‘civil partnerships’ represent. We believe that the government should adopt a more neutral position towards homosexuality rather than aiding and encouraging it by passing legislation specifically and solely designed to favour it.
iii. Do you believe that blacks or other races are inferior?
No, we have never claimed any such thing. We simply believe that the different races are different, just as men and women are different, and as such they cannot be directly compared.
iv. If you believe that the races are different then you are racists.
Not at all. The definition of a racist is someone who hates people of other races. We do not hate anybody. Anyone who says the BNP is racist is either misinformed or a liar.
v. Do you believe that blacks are less intelligent than whites?
It is a fact that every academic study has shown that the average black IQ is 15 points lower than that of whites, but remember that this is a group average and therefore it would be utterly wrong to say that all blacks are less intelligent than all whites.
[To understand this it is useful to consider a non-emotional parallel: the difference in height between men and women. On average women are shorter than men, but if a man and a woman are selected at random the woman could well be taller than the man.]
vi. Why don't you let blacks and Asians into the BNP?
For the same reason the Girl Guides don't allow boys to join. Does that mean they are sexist? Does it mean they hate boys? Of course not, it's just that their aim is to cater for the interests of girls, and similarly the BNP isn't racist, but our purpose is to cater for the interests of the indigenous British population. The indigenous population of Britain is now the only group which is facing systematic, legalised and institutionalised discrimination, harassment and oppression. That's precisely why the British people need the BNP - because we are the one and only organisation that has their interests at heart. There are hundreds of organisations exclusively for blacks or Asians, but only one organisation for the indigenous population - the BNP.
vii. What would you do with blacks and Asians already here?
Our policy is to:
i. Deport ALL the 2 million plus who are here illegally;
ii. Deport all those who commit crimes and whose original nationality was not British;
iii. Review all recent grants of residence/citizenship to ensure they are still appropriate [eg. if they were granted citizenship because they had married a Briton, they would need to be still married];
iv. Offer generous grants (£50,000) to anyone born here, or who otherwise has British citizenship, who chooses to leave permanently and is able to obtain a foreign citizenship (and thus renounce their British one).
[Note that we don’t mention race here at all; these policies are 'colour blind'.]
viii. Your leader is on record denying the Holocaust ever happened and claiming that Jews control the media – you are clearly an anti-Semitic party.
Not at all. Dredging up quotes from 10, 15, 20 years ago is really pathetic and, in a sense, rather fascist. Everyone knows that people’s political philosophies evolve and change as they develop – at least three Labour ministers were previously Communist Party members, for instance - and Nick Griffin has repeatedly stated that he has changed his views since then. The BNP is in no way anti-Semitic nor do we deny the Holocaust. We have many Jewish members and are pleased to have a Jewish councillor in Epping, who is, indeed, the group leader there.
ix. Do you accept or deny that blacks/Asians born in Britain are totally British?
People are partly the product of their environment, but mainly of their genes. Spike Milligan and Joanna Lumley were born in India – do you think they are Indians? It was the Duke of Wellington who said that just because someone is born in a stable that doesn’t make him a horse.
To be truly British one has to have a British genotype, as well as to have fully adopted British culture. Blacks and Asians born here are legally British and should be treated as such, but they are not genetically British. Indeed, most blacks and Asians do not see themselves as wholly British, and often refer to themselves as British Asians, or British Pakistanis, etc.
x. There is no such thing as a British people. The history of Britain is one of continued mass immigration, and we are therefore a mongrel people. What is happening now is just a continuation of that history.
Not at all - the scientific definition of an ‘indigenous’ species is a species originally present in an area. Therefore the indigenous British genotype is that created at the time when Britain was created as a nation, around 1,000 years ago. Britain then was made up of the descendants of the original Celts, together with Nordic (or Viking) people [from Norway, Sweden and Denmark], Germanic people [Angles and Saxons], Normans [who were largely former Vikings] and the Romans.
The point therefore is that the indigenous British are a fusion of genetically similar Northern and Western European peoples all coming from within a few hundred miles of each other. While more recent migrants from these areas can be easily assimilated therefore given their compatible genotype, the present immigration from the Third World is a very different matter. Species which move into a new area and become established there are called colonisers. Britain is therefore being colonised by foreign populations which are changing the nature of Britain.
[To understand this it is useful to consider a non-emotional parallel: the red and grey squirrel. The red squirrel is the indigenous one, the grey one the coloniser. The grey squirrel will never be termed indigenous, no matter how long it has been here. The term indigenous has a precise scientific meaning. A species either is, or is not, indigenous; it cannot become indigenous.]
xi. Why do you object to immigration and the change in Britain’s population? You are just being racist, aren’t you?
Not at all. People are the product of their genes, and a country is the product of its people. That’s why every country is different – that’s the beauty of the world and why travel is so interesting. That’s why Bath is different to Baghdad, Canterbury different to Calcutta and Manchester different to Mogadishu. If Britain’s population changes then the very nature of our towns and cities will change. You may be happy about that but we like Britain the way it has traditionally been. That makes us traditionalists, or small-c conservatives, or better still nationalists, but certainly not racists.
xii. Do you want an all-white Britain?
We have no objection to a limited number of people of different races or cultures, but they shouldn’t be so many that they actually change the area they live in. Ethnic minorities should be just that – minorities, making up no more than 2-3% of the population of any given area. In some areas their numbers have become too high, and there are parts of our towns and cities which have become visibly foreign. We want a traditional Britain.
xiii. The BNP is a fascist and undemocratic party.
This is utter nonsense – the BNP is, in fact, the most democratic party in Britain. Only the BNP believes in citizen-initiated referenda which will genuinely give power back to the people. The other parties are determined to ignore the wishes of the British people – only the BNP trusts the British people and wants to give them back control over their country.
[Citizen-initiated referenda work very well in Switzerland and some US states.]
xiv. Senior BNP leaders have been convicted of race hatred and other criminal offences – how can you deny being a violent and racist party?
You are talking about the actions of a small minority of members in the past, not the present. No senior member of the BNP has any serious criminal convictions. It is a fact however that BNP members are sometimes politically victimised and wrongfully convicted when merely defending themselves from attack. As for convictions for political crimes, these simply prove we do not have freedom of speech in Britain any more. We do not – absolutely not – encourage hatred against ethnic minorities, but we must be allowed to speak about the problems which Britain faces today. Nowadays the BNP is the only party that stands up for genuine free speech.
The real criminals are to be found in the Labour, Conservative and LibDem parties which are notorious for sleaze, fraud and corruption, and whose members have a string of convictions for serious criminal offences. See here for more details
xv. Migrants are good for Britain’s economy and for services like the NHS.
This is completely untrue, as has been demonstrated by independent analysts [eg. MigrationWatch]. The government claims that migrants raise our GDP, but crime increases GDP too – do you believe that crime is a good thing? It’s not GDP we should be measuring but quality of life, and Britain’s population is now double what environmental groups [eg. the Optimum Population Trust] believe is the appropriate figure for a country this size.
As for the health service, ‘health tourists’ are estimated to cost the NHS £2 billion a year, and diseases such as TB and AIDS are on the increase as a direct result of immigration. British doctors and nurses are unable to find work in the NHS because we are importing medical staff – some with questionable qualifications - from the Third World where they are desperately needed. The BNP would improve the NHS and reduce waiting lists.
xvi. Explain what you mean by British culture.
Any nation’s culture is a combination of all the historical factors that go towards making the majority of people in that country, and the country itself, identifiably different. Our culture is therefore a combination of our history, our temperament, our sporting, artistic, literary and musical heritage, our environment, our interests and aspirations, our language, our religion and our form of government.
A culture takes centuries to create, but can be destroyed in just a few years. Only the BNP values and wants to preserve our traditional culture – the other parties are determined to undermine it and destroy it in their ideological determination to impose a multicultural society where the British are treated as second class citizens in their own country.
xvii. Do you support the England football team?
Of course we do! And the Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish teams too, as well as our national rugby, cricket and other sporting teams. We even sell England car flags on our website for our members to show their support for the football team during international tournaments.
xviii. What is your position on an English parliament?
The British National Party, as its name suggests, believes that Britain is stronger for being united, and that the home nations – and the people of these nations - have a common history and heritage, as well as continuing common interests. We note with concern however that the establishment of the Scottish parliament and the Assemblies in Wales and Northern Ireland has created an inequitable situation in England, with issues which are only relevant to England being voted on by MPs representing constituencies in the other home nations. There is a growing resentment at this unfairness in England and we believe that an English parliament would help to resolve this problem. An English parliament would therefore strengthen the Union. The BNP policy is: ‘an English parliament for a stronger Britain’.
xix. The BNP is an extremist party.
This is totally untrue. An opinion poll carried out for Sky News in April 2006 found that over 50% of the British people support the BNP’s policies. We simply say what the majority of people in this country think, so how can we possibly be called extremist? On the contrary, this poll proves that we represent the genuine centreground of British politics. The BNP is the voice of the British people.
xx. The "Daily Mirror says serial killer John Laidlaw was a BNP member.
John Laidlaw was jailed in February for life for a shooting spree in north London. He was clearly a nutter and he is not and NEVER has been a member of the BNP. This is just another example of how the established media and left-wing extremists blatantly lie to their readers and viewers. This proves you can't believe ANYTHING they say about the BNP.
xxi. The "Africans for Essex" story was a lie.
In 2005 BNP campaigner in Barking and Dagenham, uncovered a scheme where council residents in inner London boroughs were being paid substantial amounts of money to move elsewhere. The BNP coined the term "Africans for Essex" because the majority of beneficiaries were Africans and rather than upsticks and move to Hampshire or Cumbria outer London is seen as a more attractive location, with its ease of access to the city and the ability to retain ties with family and friends.
These relocation schemes are real, the story was not a lie and here is further information from the "Assisted Purchase" scheme from Westminster City Council:
http://www.cwh.org.uk/main.asp?page=1581
Assisted Purchase gives an outright grant of £50,000 for WCC secure tenants living in homes with 3 or more bedrooms, and £25,000 for those in homes with 2 bedrooms. The council has an annual budget of £750,000 to give away, and the way the money is allocated is that "Grants are offered to the people with the highest number of bedrooms first, until all the money has been spent".
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You alls logic makes no sense to me.The BNP are our allies.
To be my ally, the BNP would have to accept anyone of any race or ethnicity who shared Euro-American values. If they're going to exclude people based on race and ethnicity (as opposed to values and behavior), I wouldn't be able to work with them.
In the run up to the May 3rd council elections across the UK and the elections for the Welsh Assembly and Scottish Parliament it is to be expected that anti-British elements in the mass media, Trade Union movement and the Labour Party will be working together in top gear to spread misinformation, half-truths and downright fabricated lies about the British National Party, its policies and its candidates. With the BNP deemed to be a "threat" in 93 council seats according to research carried out for the Labour Party the stakes have been raised and the show down between the corrupt, tired and treacherous Old Gang trio of Lab-Lib-Con and the new force of renaissance and renewal is set to take place over the next few years at council, Assembly, national and European levels.
Hundreds of thousands of smear leaflets are being printed and distributed in those council areas where both we and the anti-British opposition expect us to do well and even win. Coming second is not good enough, we need to win and win as many seats as we possibly can. When the smear leaflets land on the doormats of your friends and neighbourhoods and when the left-wing press print lies and smears please direct your contacts and colleagues to this web page or print it off in advance. This page tells the truth about the BNP.
i. Why do you disapprove of mixed marriages?
We believe in human diversity and in preserving the individuality and identity of all different ethnic groups. It is sad when a unique human genotype becomes extinct - as has happened around the world in the past and is happening today in the Amazon and in New Guinea. While a small number of mixed marriages – or mixed race children - in Britain won’t, in themselves, make any difference, if this is encouraged however as it is at present by politicians and the media then inevitably the traditional British genotype will be endangered in the long-term.
Environmentalists are always keen to preserve unique animal species in the wild, so why shouldn’t the same principle apply to people? We believe that Britain’s proud history of glorious achievements demonstrates that the British genotype is a valuable one and deserves to be preserved.
It has also been shown that mixed race children often suffer from identity problems, as has been pointed out by people such as Trevor Phillips (chairman of the Commission for Equality and Human Rights).
ii. What is your attitude to homosexuals?
The British National Party is not ‘homophobic’ and believes that what consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedrooms is a matter for them alone and is of no concern to anyone else. On the other hand the BNP is not blinded or cowed by political correctness and recognises that homosexuality, which affects less than 2% of the population, is not the norm and that homosexual relationships do not produce offspring – essential to the survival of a people and a nation.
We therefore believe in a policy of tolerance to all forms of adult sexuality, but homosexuality should not be promoted or encouraged. The BNP supports the traditional ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ attitude to homosexuality and is opposed to the flaunting or celebrating of homosexuality which ‘civil partnerships’ represent. We believe that the government should adopt a more neutral position towards homosexuality rather than aiding and encouraging it by passing legislation specifically and solely designed to favour it.
iii. Do you believe that blacks or other races are inferior?
No, we have never claimed any such thing. We simply believe that the different races are different, just as men and women are different, and as such they cannot be directly compared.
iv. If you believe that the races are different then you are racists.
Not at all. The definition of a racist is someone who hates people of other races. We do not hate anybody. Anyone who says the BNP is racist is either misinformed or a liar.
v. Do you believe that blacks are less intelligent than whites?
It is a fact that every academic study has shown that the average black IQ is 15 points lower than that of whites, but remember that this is a group average and therefore it would be utterly wrong to say that all blacks are less intelligent than all whites.
[To understand this it is useful to consider a non-emotional parallel: the difference in height between men and women. On average women are shorter than men, but if a man and a woman are selected at random the woman could well be taller than the man.]
vi. Why don't you let blacks and Asians into the BNP?
For the same reason the Girl Guides don't allow boys to join. Does that mean they are sexist? Does it mean they hate boys? Of course not, it's just that their aim is to cater for the interests of girls, and similarly the BNP isn't racist, but our purpose is to cater for the interests of the indigenous British population. The indigenous population of Britain is now the only group which is facing systematic, legalised and institutionalised discrimination, harassment and oppression. That's precisely why the British people need the BNP - because we are the one and only organisation that has their interests at heart. There are hundreds of organisations exclusively for blacks or Asians, but only one organisation for the indigenous population - the BNP.
vii. What would you do with blacks and Asians already here?
Our policy is to:
i. Deport ALL the 2 million plus who are here illegally;
ii. Deport all those who commit crimes and whose original nationality was not British;
iii. Review all recent grants of residence/citizenship to ensure they are still appropriate [eg. if they were granted citizenship because they had married a Briton, they would need to be still married];
iv. Offer generous grants (£50,000) to anyone born here, or who otherwise has British citizenship, who chooses to leave permanently and is able to obtain a foreign citizenship (and thus renounce their British one).
[Note that we don’t mention race here at all; these policies are 'colour blind'.]
viii. Your leader is on record denying the Holocaust ever happened and claiming that Jews control the media – you are clearly an anti-Semitic party.
Not at all. Dredging up quotes from 10, 15, 20 years ago is really pathetic and, in a sense, rather fascist. Everyone knows that people’s political philosophies evolve and change as they develop – at least three Labour ministers were previously Communist Party members, for instance - and Nick Griffin has repeatedly stated that he has changed his views since then. The BNP is in no way anti-Semitic nor do we deny the Holocaust. We have many Jewish members and are pleased to have a Jewish councillor in Epping, who is, indeed, the group leader there.
ix. Do you accept or deny that blacks/Asians born in Britain are totally British?
People are partly the product of their environment, but mainly of their genes. Spike Milligan and Joanna Lumley were born in India – do you think they are Indians? It was the Duke of Wellington who said that just because someone is born in a stable that doesn’t make him a horse.
To be truly British one has to have a British genotype, as well as to have fully adopted British culture. Blacks and Asians born here are legally British and should be treated as such, but they are not genetically British. Indeed, most blacks and Asians do not see themselves as wholly British, and often refer to themselves as British Asians, or British Pakistanis, etc.
x. There is no such thing as a British people. The history of Britain is one of continued mass immigration, and we are therefore a mongrel people. What is happening now is just a continuation of that history.
Not at all - the scientific definition of an ‘indigenous’ species is a species originally present in an area. Therefore the indigenous British genotype is that created at the time when Britain was created as a nation, around 1,000 years ago. Britain then was made up of the descendants of the original Celts, together with Nordic (or Viking) people [from Norway, Sweden and Denmark], Germanic people [Angles and Saxons], Normans [who were largely former Vikings] and the Romans.
The point therefore is that the indigenous British are a fusion of genetically similar Northern and Western European peoples all coming from within a few hundred miles of each other. While more recent migrants from these areas can be easily assimilated therefore given their compatible genotype, the present immigration from the Third World is a very different matter. Species which move into a new area and become established there are called colonisers. Britain is therefore being colonised by foreign populations which are changing the nature of Britain.
[To understand this it is useful to consider a non-emotional parallel: the red and grey squirrel. The red squirrel is the indigenous one, the grey one the coloniser. The grey squirrel will never be termed indigenous, no matter how long it has been here. The term indigenous has a precise scientific meaning. A species either is, or is not, indigenous; it cannot become indigenous.]
xi. Why do you object to immigration and the change in Britain’s population? You are just being racist, aren’t you?
Not at all. People are the product of their genes, and a country is the product of its people. That’s why every country is different – that’s the beauty of the world and why travel is so interesting. That’s why Bath is different to Baghdad, Canterbury different to Calcutta and Manchester different to Mogadishu. If Britain’s population changes then the very nature of our towns and cities will change. You may be happy about that but we like Britain the way it has traditionally been. That makes us traditionalists, or small-c conservatives, or better still nationalists, but certainly not racists.
xii. Do you want an all-white Britain?
We have no objection to a limited number of people of different races or cultures, but they shouldn’t be so many that they actually change the area they live in. Ethnic minorities should be just that – minorities, making up no more than 2-3% of the population of any given area. In some areas their numbers have become too high, and there are parts of our towns and cities which have become visibly foreign. We want a traditional Britain.
xiii. The BNP is a fascist and undemocratic party.
This is utter nonsense – the BNP is, in fact, the most democratic party in Britain. Only the BNP believes in citizen-initiated referenda which will genuinely give power back to the people. The other parties are determined to ignore the wishes of the British people – only the BNP trusts the British people and wants to give them back control over their country.
[Citizen-initiated referenda work very well in Switzerland and some US states.]
xiv. Senior BNP leaders have been convicted of race hatred and other criminal offences – how can you deny being a violent and racist party?
You are talking about the actions of a small minority of members in the past, not the present. No senior member of the BNP has any serious criminal convictions. It is a fact however that BNP members are sometimes politically victimised and wrongfully convicted when merely defending themselves from attack. As for convictions for political crimes, these simply prove we do not have freedom of speech in Britain any more. We do not – absolutely not – encourage hatred against ethnic minorities, but we must be allowed to speak about the problems which Britain faces today. Nowadays the BNP is the only party that stands up for genuine free speech.
The real criminals are to be found in the Labour, Conservative and LibDem parties which are notorious for sleaze, fraud and corruption, and whose members have a string of convictions for serious criminal offences. See here for more details
xv. Migrants are good for Britain’s economy and for services like the NHS.
This is completely untrue, as has been demonstrated by independent analysts [eg. MigrationWatch]. The government claims that migrants raise our GDP, but crime increases GDP too – do you believe that crime is a good thing? It’s not GDP we should be measuring but quality of life, and Britain’s population is now double what environmental groups [eg. the Optimum Population Trust] believe is the appropriate figure for a country this size.
As for the health service, ‘health tourists’ are estimated to cost the NHS £2 billion a year, and diseases such as TB and AIDS are on the increase as a direct result of immigration. British doctors and nurses are unable to find work in the NHS because we are importing medical staff – some with questionable qualifications - from the Third World where they are desperately needed. The BNP would improve the NHS and reduce waiting lists.
xvi. Explain what you mean by British culture.
Any nation’s culture is a combination of all the historical factors that go towards making the majority of people in that country, and the country itself, identifiably different. Our culture is therefore a combination of our history, our temperament, our sporting, artistic, literary and musical heritage, our environment, our interests and aspirations, our language, our religion and our form of government.
A culture takes centuries to create, but can be destroyed in just a few years. Only the BNP values and wants to preserve our traditional culture – the other parties are determined to undermine it and destroy it in their ideological determination to impose a multicultural society where the British are treated as second class citizens in their own country.
xvii. Do you support the England football team?
Of course we do! And the Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish teams too, as well as our national rugby, cricket and other sporting teams. We even sell England car flags on our website for our members to show their support for the football team during international tournaments.
xviii. What is your position on an English parliament?
The British National Party, as its name suggests, believes that Britain is stronger for being united, and that the home nations – and the people of these nations - have a common history and heritage, as well as continuing common interests. We note with concern however that the establishment of the Scottish parliament and the Assemblies in Wales and Northern Ireland has created an inequitable situation in England, with issues which are only relevant to England being voted on by MPs representing constituencies in the other home nations. There is a growing resentment at this unfairness in England and we believe that an English parliament would help to resolve this problem. An English parliament would therefore strengthen the Union. The BNP policy is: ‘an English parliament for a stronger Britain’.
xix. The BNP is an extremist party.
This is totally untrue. An opinion poll carried out for Sky News in April 2006 found that over 50% of the British people support the BNP’s policies. We simply say what the majority of people in this country think, so how can we possibly be called extremist? On the contrary, this poll proves that we represent the genuine centreground of British politics. The BNP is the voice of the British people.
xx. The "Daily Mirror says serial killer John Laidlaw was a BNP member.
John Laidlaw was jailed in February for life for a shooting spree in north London. He was clearly a nutter and he is not and NEVER has been a member of the BNP. This is just another example of how the established media and left-wing extremists blatantly lie to their readers and viewers. This proves you can't believe ANYTHING they say about the BNP.
xxi. The "Africans for Essex" story was a lie.
In 2005 BNP campaigner in Barking and Dagenham, uncovered a scheme where council residents in inner London boroughs were being paid substantial amounts of money to move elsewhere. The BNP coined the term "Africans for Essex" because the majority of beneficiaries were Africans and rather than upsticks and move to Hampshire or Cumbria outer London is seen as a more attractive location, with its ease of access to the city and the ability to retain ties with family and friends.
These relocation schemes are real, the story was not a lie and here is further information from the "Assisted Purchase" scheme from Westminster City Council:
http://www.cwh.org.uk/main.asp?page=1581
Assisted Purchase gives an outright grant of £50,000 for WCC secure tenants living in homes with 3 or more bedrooms, and £25,000 for those in homes with 2 bedrooms. The council has an annual budget of £750,000 to give away, and the way the money is allocated is that "Grants are offered to the people with the highest number of bedrooms first, until all the money has been spent".
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i was just wondering, if soe of us english born agains could start a take back england campaign and make jtf a even more global political movement.
Born again christianity is booming in england now, that the church of england and catholocism is slowly perishing.
I would be happy, or in a joint project with other brits, making sure we make it clear we link JTF.ORG and chaim ben in process.
Sibce america and elgnad are alies, i actually think its possible for this to happen...
Its certainly be better option than the BNP who are all skin headed morons
I hate Nazis, but skin-heads are still better than towell-heads.
In the run up to the May 3rd council elections across the UK and the elections for the Welsh Assembly and Scottish Parliament it is to be expected that anti-British elements in the mass media, Trade Union movement and the Labour Party will be working together in top gear to spread misinformation, half-truths and downright fabricated lies about the British National Party, its policies and its candidates. With the BNP deemed to be a "threat" in 93 council seats according to research carried out for the Labour Party the stakes have been raised and the show down between the corrupt, tired and treacherous Old Gang trio of Lab-Lib-Con and the new force of renaissance and renewal is set to take place over the next few years at council, Assembly, national and European levels.
Hundreds of thousands of smear leaflets are being printed and distributed in those council areas where both we and the anti-British opposition expect us to do well and even win. Coming second is not good enough, we need to win and win as many seats as we possibly can. When the smear leaflets land on the doormats of your friends and neighbourhoods and when the left-wing press print lies and smears please direct your contacts and colleagues to this web page or print it off in advance. This page tells the truth about the BNP.
i. Why do you disapprove of mixed marriages?
We believe in human diversity and in preserving the individuality and identity of all different ethnic groups. It is sad when a unique human genotype becomes extinct - as has happened around the world in the past and is happening today in the Amazon and in New Guinea. While a small number of mixed marriages – or mixed race children - in Britain won’t, in themselves, make any difference, if this is encouraged however as it is at present by politicians and the media then inevitably the traditional British genotype will be endangered in the long-term.
Environmentalists are always keen to preserve unique animal species in the wild, so why shouldn’t the same principle apply to people? We believe that Britain’s proud history of glorious achievements demonstrates that the British genotype is a valuable one and deserves to be preserved.
It has also been shown that mixed race children often suffer from identity problems, as has been pointed out by people such as Trevor Phillips (chairman of the Commission for Equality and Human Rights).
ii. What is your attitude to homosexuals?
The British National Party is not ‘homophobic’ and believes that what consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedrooms is a matter for them alone and is of no concern to anyone else. On the other hand the BNP is not blinded or cowed by political correctness and recognises that homosexuality, which affects less than 2% of the population, is not the norm and that homosexual relationships do not produce offspring – essential to the survival of a people and a nation.
We therefore believe in a policy of tolerance to all forms of adult sexuality, but homosexuality should not be promoted or encouraged. The BNP supports the traditional ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ attitude to homosexuality and is opposed to the flaunting or celebrating of homosexuality which ‘civil partnerships’ represent. We believe that the government should adopt a more neutral position towards homosexuality rather than aiding and encouraging it by passing legislation specifically and solely designed to favour it.
iii. Do you believe that blacks or other races are inferior?
No, we have never claimed any such thing. We simply believe that the different races are different, just as men and women are different, and as such they cannot be directly compared.
iv. If you believe that the races are different then you are racists.
Not at all. The definition of a racist is someone who hates people of other races. We do not hate anybody. Anyone who says the BNP is racist is either misinformed or a liar.
v. Do you believe that blacks are less intelligent than whites?
It is a fact that every academic study has shown that the average black IQ is 15 points lower than that of whites, but remember that this is a group average and therefore it would be utterly wrong to say that all blacks are less intelligent than all whites.
[To understand this it is useful to consider a non-emotional parallel: the difference in height between men and women. On average women are shorter than men, but if a man and a woman are selected at random the woman could well be taller than the man.]
vi. Why don't you let blacks and Asians into the BNP?
For the same reason the Girl Guides don't allow boys to join. Does that mean they are sexist? Does it mean they hate boys? Of course not, it's just that their aim is to cater for the interests of girls, and similarly the BNP isn't racist, but our purpose is to cater for the interests of the indigenous British population. The indigenous population of Britain is now the only group which is facing systematic, legalised and institutionalised discrimination, harassment and oppression. That's precisely why the British people need the BNP - because we are the one and only organisation that has their interests at heart. There are hundreds of organisations exclusively for blacks or Asians, but only one organisation for the indigenous population - the BNP.
vii. What would you do with blacks and Asians already here?
Our policy is to:
i. Deport ALL the 2 million plus who are here illegally;
ii. Deport all those who commit crimes and whose original nationality was not British;
iii. Review all recent grants of residence/citizenship to ensure they are still appropriate [eg. if they were granted citizenship because they had married a Briton, they would need to be still married];
iv. Offer generous grants (£50,000) to anyone born here, or who otherwise has British citizenship, who chooses to leave permanently and is able to obtain a foreign citizenship (and thus renounce their British one).
[Note that we don’t mention race here at all; these policies are 'colour blind'.]
viii. Your leader is on record denying the Holocaust ever happened and claiming that Jews control the media – you are clearly an anti-Semitic party.
Not at all. Dredging up quotes from 10, 15, 20 years ago is really pathetic and, in a sense, rather fascist. Everyone knows that people’s political philosophies evolve and change as they develop – at least three Labour ministers were previously Communist Party members, for instance - and Nick Griffin has repeatedly stated that he has changed his views since then. The BNP is in no way anti-Semitic nor do we deny the Holocaust. We have many Jewish members and are pleased to have a Jewish councillor in Epping, who is, indeed, the group leader there.
ix. Do you accept or deny that blacks/Asians born in Britain are totally British?
People are partly the product of their environment, but mainly of their genes. Spike Milligan and Joanna Lumley were born in India – do you think they are Indians? It was the Duke of Wellington who said that just because someone is born in a stable that doesn’t make him a horse.
To be truly British one has to have a British genotype, as well as to have fully adopted British culture. Blacks and Asians born here are legally British and should be treated as such, but they are not genetically British. Indeed, most blacks and Asians do not see themselves as wholly British, and often refer to themselves as British Asians, or British Pakistanis, etc.
x. There is no such thing as a British people. The history of Britain is one of continued mass immigration, and we are therefore a mongrel people. What is happening now is just a continuation of that history.
Not at all - the scientific definition of an ‘indigenous’ species is a species originally present in an area. Therefore the indigenous British genotype is that created at the time when Britain was created as a nation, around 1,000 years ago. Britain then was made up of the descendants of the original Celts, together with Nordic (or Viking) people [from Norway, Sweden and Denmark], Germanic people [Angles and Saxons], Normans [who were largely former Vikings] and the Romans.
The point therefore is that the indigenous British are a fusion of genetically similar Northern and Western European peoples all coming from within a few hundred miles of each other. While more recent migrants from these areas can be easily assimilated therefore given their compatible genotype, the present immigration from the Third World is a very different matter. Species which move into a new area and become established there are called colonisers. Britain is therefore being colonised by foreign populations which are changing the nature of Britain.
[To understand this it is useful to consider a non-emotional parallel: the red and grey squirrel. The red squirrel is the indigenous one, the grey one the coloniser. The grey squirrel will never be termed indigenous, no matter how long it has been here. The term indigenous has a precise scientific meaning. A species either is, or is not, indigenous; it cannot become indigenous.]
xi. Why do you object to immigration and the change in Britain’s population? You are just being racist, aren’t you?
Not at all. People are the product of their genes, and a country is the product of its people. That’s why every country is different – that’s the beauty of the world and why travel is so interesting. That’s why Bath is different to Baghdad, Canterbury different to Calcutta and Manchester different to Mogadishu. If Britain’s population changes then the very nature of our towns and cities will change. You may be happy about that but we like Britain the way it has traditionally been. That makes us traditionalists, or small-c conservatives, or better still nationalists, but certainly not racists.
xii. Do you want an all-white Britain?
We have no objection to a limited number of people of different races or cultures, but they shouldn’t be so many that they actually change the area they live in. Ethnic minorities should be just that – minorities, making up no more than 2-3% of the population of any given area. In some areas their numbers have become too high, and there are parts of our towns and cities which have become visibly foreign. We want a traditional Britain.
xiii. The BNP is a fascist and undemocratic party.
This is utter nonsense – the BNP is, in fact, the most democratic party in Britain. Only the BNP believes in citizen-initiated referenda which will genuinely give power back to the people. The other parties are determined to ignore the wishes of the British people – only the BNP trusts the British people and wants to give them back control over their country.
[Citizen-initiated referenda work very well in Switzerland and some US states.]
xiv. Senior BNP leaders have been convicted of race hatred and other criminal offences – how can you deny being a violent and racist party?
You are talking about the actions of a small minority of members in the past, not the present. No senior member of the BNP has any serious criminal convictions. It is a fact however that BNP members are sometimes politically victimised and wrongfully convicted when merely defending themselves from attack. As for convictions for political crimes, these simply prove we do not have freedom of speech in Britain any more. We do not – absolutely not – encourage hatred against ethnic minorities, but we must be allowed to speak about the problems which Britain faces today. Nowadays the BNP is the only party that stands up for genuine free speech.
The real criminals are to be found in the Labour, Conservative and LibDem parties which are notorious for sleaze, fraud and corruption, and whose members have a string of convictions for serious criminal offences. See here for more details
xv. Migrants are good for Britain’s economy and for services like the NHS.
This is completely untrue, as has been demonstrated by independent analysts [eg. MigrationWatch]. The government claims that migrants raise our GDP, but crime increases GDP too – do you believe that crime is a good thing? It’s not GDP we should be measuring but quality of life, and Britain’s population is now double what environmental groups [eg. the Optimum Population Trust] believe is the appropriate figure for a country this size.
As for the health service, ‘health tourists’ are estimated to cost the NHS £2 billion a year, and diseases such as TB and AIDS are on the increase as a direct result of immigration. British doctors and nurses are unable to find work in the NHS because we are importing medical staff – some with questionable qualifications - from the Third World where they are desperately needed. The BNP would improve the NHS and reduce waiting lists.
xvi. Explain what you mean by British culture.
Any nation’s culture is a combination of all the historical factors that go towards making the majority of people in that country, and the country itself, identifiably different. Our culture is therefore a combination of our history, our temperament, our sporting, artistic, literary and musical heritage, our environment, our interests and aspirations, our language, our religion and our form of government.
A culture takes centuries to create, but can be destroyed in just a few years. Only the BNP values and wants to preserve our traditional culture – the other parties are determined to undermine it and destroy it in their ideological determination to impose a multicultural society where the British are treated as second class citizens in their own country.
xvii. Do you support the England football team?
Of course we do! And the Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish teams too, as well as our national rugby, cricket and other sporting teams. We even sell England car flags on our website for our members to show their support for the football team during international tournaments.
xviii. What is your position on an English parliament?
The British National Party, as its name suggests, believes that Britain is stronger for being united, and that the home nations – and the people of these nations - have a common history and heritage, as well as continuing common interests. We note with concern however that the establishment of the Scottish parliament and the Assemblies in Wales and Northern Ireland has created an inequitable situation in England, with issues which are only relevant to England being voted on by MPs representing constituencies in the other home nations. There is a growing resentment at this unfairness in England and we believe that an English parliament would help to resolve this problem. An English parliament would therefore strengthen the Union. The BNP policy is: ‘an English parliament for a stronger Britain’.
xix. The BNP is an extremist party.
This is totally untrue. An opinion poll carried out for Sky News in April 2006 found that over 50% of the British people support the BNP’s policies. We simply say what the majority of people in this country think, so how can we possibly be called extremist? On the contrary, this poll proves that we represent the genuine centreground of British politics. The BNP is the voice of the British people.
xx. The "Daily Mirror says serial killer John Laidlaw was a BNP member.
John Laidlaw was jailed in February for life for a shooting spree in north London. He was clearly a nutter and he is not and NEVER has been a member of the BNP. This is just another example of how the established media and left-wing extremists blatantly lie to their readers and viewers. This proves you can't believe ANYTHING they say about the BNP.
xxi. The "Africans for Essex" story was a lie.
In 2005 BNP campaigner in Barking and Dagenham, uncovered a scheme where council residents in inner London boroughs were being paid substantial amounts of money to move elsewhere. The BNP coined the term "Africans for Essex" because the majority of beneficiaries were Africans and rather than upsticks and move to Hampshire or Cumbria outer London is seen as a more attractive location, with its ease of access to the city and the ability to retain ties with family and friends.
These relocation schemes are real, the story was not a lie and here is further information from the "Assisted Purchase" scheme from Westminster City Council:
http://www.cwh.org.uk/main.asp?page=1581
Assisted Purchase gives an outright grant of £50,000 for WCC secure tenants living in homes with 3 or more bedrooms, and £25,000 for those in homes with 2 bedrooms. The council has an annual budget of £750,000 to give away, and the way the money is allocated is that "Grants are offered to the people with the highest number of bedrooms first, until all the money has been spent".
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I think England is lost. France is nearly lost and Germany is on a good way to be lost in the near future. Luckily there are still some scandinavian countries like Denmark which oppose Islam and mass immigration.
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Europe died in the Holocaust. They murdered 6 million people that were good people. Now they have 20 million people in their lands that want them dead.
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Europe died in the Holocaust. They murdered 6 million people that were good people. Now they have 20 million people in their lands that want them dead.
Yeah. You think the guy who tades a 69 mustang for a Pinto is an idiot. The Europeans traded 6 million Jews for 20,000,000 muslim-nazis. Talk about the DUD deal of the century!
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Europe died in the Holocaust. They murdered 6 million people that were good people. Now they have 20 million people in their lands that want them dead.
Right. Bad deal.
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They're closer to 50 milions including illegals and Albanians; I agree that WN can lead to nazism becouse sepharedim Jews are not "white" and/or aryan; we shoud concetrate on coultural suprematism yes suprematism becouse "White" (Euro-American) culture is superior; why do you think Asiatic nations like Japanese and now Chinese are copying us?
BTW Japanese are acting more white now than mayority of Europeans or Anglo-saxons; BUT BNP shoud be our alies just as everybody who is not nazi and/or muslim.
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Europe died in the Holocaust. They murdered 6 million people that were good people. Now they have 20 million people in their lands that want them dead.
Right. Bad deal.
Actually, it was closer to ten or twelve million: you left out three million Polish Gentiles, numerous Gypsies, and non-Polish Slavs including Russian war prisoners who were mistreated or killed for being Slavs. Hitler got about seven million of his own people (10 percent of the population) killed in the process as well. Any modern German who admires Hitler should be reminded of this.
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Europe died in the Holocaust. They murdered 6 million people that were good people. Now they have 20 million people in their lands that want them dead.
Right. Bad deal.
Actually, it was closer to ten or twelve million: you left out three million Polish Gentiles, numerous Gypsies, and non-Polish Slavs including Russian war prisoners who were mistreated or killed for being Slavs. Hitler got about seven million of his own people (10 percent of the population) killed in the process as well. Any modern German who admires Hitler should be reminded of this.
Yes. I think a problem in here is that many people think wrong about Germany. The problem are not the few nationalsocialist there, the problem is the politics. Patriotism, for an american just usual, is a bad word in Germany! Of course some people think: this can't be true! Why should patriotism be bad? They look for a patriotic party and they are running in the arms of these NS-guys. A usual patriot in another country is voting for conservatives. But there are no conservatives in this country any more! This is the main problem.
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German Christ ,
Nothing against you as a person. But what the nazis did, I can not forgive them , nor will I . I am a Christian. I am not a big fan of Germany. This being texted, I have no ill will towards you as a person, or your family. There will be those of us on this chat forum, that will be hard core on this issue. I realize you had nothing to do with the past, but I do understand the anti Semite behaviour in Germany, it has not left.
Again, please understand this post is not against you as a person, what so ever.
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I understand that it's not against me.
I know there is anti-semite behaviour in Germany, but it's practised by muslims and nazis. The usual German citizen is NOT any more anti jewish. Some of them might not be interested in your culture, some are thinking, that the middle-eastern conflict is the fault of Israel or something else. Germany is not more or less anti-semite than other european and western countries. On top of that you can't tell me what's going on in Germany because I live here now. Of course Israel is sometimes under critic, but that's ok in democracy isn't it? You don't live in Germany so you can't know if we are anti-semite today. Your judgment is based on the NS-regime and some prejudice you have heard in the media or by some far right religious leaders that are not interested in the situation in Germany and still live in a former time. The only person who has the right and the knowledge to judge if anti-semite behaviour is far spread in Germany is someone who lives or has lived in the modern Germany. Someone like me.
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I understand that it's not against me.
I know there is anti-semite behaviour in Germany, but it's practised by muslims and nazis. The usual German citizen is NOT any more anti jewish. Some of them might not be interested in your culture, some are thinking, that the middle-eastern conflict is the fault of Israel or something else. Germany is not more or less anti-semite than other european and western countries. On top of that you can't tell me what's going on in Germany because I live here now. Of course Israel is sometimes under critic, but that's ok in democracy isn't it? You don't live in Germany so you can't know if we are anti-semite today. Your judgment is based on the NS-regime and some prejudice you have heard in the media or by some far right religious leaders that are not interested in the situation in Germany and still live in a former time. The only person who has the right and the knowledge to judge if anti-semite behaviour is far spread in Germany is someone who lives or has lived in the modern Germany. Someone like me.
Germany has consistantly voted against Israel in the UN. Germany gives money to the P_lestinians who want to murder Jews and Geman companies supplied components to Saddam Hussein's WMDs.
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Germany has consistantly voted against Israel in the UN. Germany gives money to the P_lestinians who want to murder Jews and Geman companies supplied components to Saddam Hussein's WMDs.
It's not true that Germany has consistantly voted against Israel, but it's right, that it does too often. But that's normal in a country ruled by leftist. There are far more european countries which vote against Isrealian interests. Germany doesn't support Palestinean, but it's right that we (unfortunately) give money to them like the most european countries. As far as I know, just the USA doesn't give money but just because of the Hamas leadership. The USA heavily support the Fatah. Well it's right that Germany sells weapons to muslim countries, but the USA have supported Bin Laden in former times to fight against the russian invaders and they sell lots of weapons to possible futur enemies in this region.
Don't get me wrong, Germany does some of the things you said, but that's quite normal in europe and even the USA does it, so, with your argumentation whole europe is anti-semite. There's maybe something true in this sentence...
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Germany has consistantly voted against Israel in the UN. Germany gives money to the P_lestinians who want to murder Jews and Geman companies supplied components to Saddam Hussein's WMDs.
It's not true that Germany has consistantly voted against Israel, but it's right, that it does too often. But that's normal in a country ruled by leftist. There are far more european countries which vote against Isrealian interests. Germany doesn't support Palestinean, but it's right that we (unfortunately) give money to them like the most european countries. As far as I know, just the USA doesn't give money but just because of the Hamas leadership. The USA heavily support the Fatah. Well it's right that Germany sells weapons to muslim countries, but the USA have supported Bin Laden in former times to fight against the russian invaders and they sell lots of weapons to possible futur enemies in this region.
Don't get me wrong, Germany does some of the things you said, but that's quite normal in europe and even the USA does it, so, with your argumentation whole europe is anti-semite. There's maybe something true in this sentence...
The 'rest of europe' didn't murder 6,000,000 Jews.
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Germany has consistantly voted against Israel in the UN. Germany gives money to the P_lestinians who want to murder Jews and Geman companies supplied components to Saddam Hussein's WMDs.
It's not true that Germany has consistantly voted against Israel, but it's right, that it does too often. But that's normal in a country ruled by leftist. There are far more european countries which vote against Isrealian interests. Germany doesn't support Palestinean, but it's right that we (unfortunately) give money to them like the most european countries. As far as I know, just the USA doesn't give money but just because of the Hamas leadership. The USA heavily support the Fatah. Well it's right that Germany sells weapons to muslim countries, but the USA have supported Bin Laden in former times to fight against the russian invaders and they sell lots of weapons to possible futur enemies in this region.
Don't get me wrong, Germany does some of the things you said, but that's quite normal in europe and even the USA does it, so, with your argumentation whole europe is anti-semite. There's maybe something true in this sentence...
The 'rest of europe' didn't murder 6,000,000 Jews.
That's right. And this is why Germany is today a leftist country without patriotism and without a clear agenda in the world. So we can actually blame Hitler for the current problems in Germany and the muslim invasion if we take a look back. A bit of critic on Israel belongs to the left ideology. Under the Kohl leadership there was a good relation to Israel by the way.
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Yes the US did too good job with Germany, they got rid of prussian backbone the general statff and junkers, maybe like in Japan they shoud bring back the Keiser and kings; now we have a 80 milions strong nation of rabid pacifists as neighbours ::). I admired Bismarck but Europe and the world woud be a better place with twenty five German states.
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Imgine if we could post Chaims vid on there.Many bnp members probably aren'nt true racist but have no party to turn to in the U.K.
absolutly right,with a two party state whos policies are so the same,many turn to the BNP as there is nothing left to believe in,religeon has been rocked with peadophile charges and just damn stupid bs that that in its self has erroded "faith".so there is nothing for them any more.....but i try to get my friends to visit JTF.ORG.
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Regarding the BNP and their shift away from anti-semitism, it is nothing but facical! I believe that Nick Griffin openly declared that the party was no longer anti-semitic about five years ago, but why on earth should this be believed. The party is still full to the brim with the same members who still hold the same views, it's ridiculous to think that just because Griffin came out and said this that the party members all suddenly stopped being anti-semitic overnight!
Most probably the reson for this turnaround is that fact that the main concern in Britain today is focused on Islam and the BNP are just reacting to this in order to gain support, the focus at present is not on the Jews so there is no point in them going down this road, for now anyway!
There are apparently a few Jewish people in the party and they like to make this known and roll out the token Jew as if this means that they are not anti-semitic anymore! It's nothing but a load of B.S.
This is true !!i can only vouch for myself that i would not tolorate anything anti jewish remarks, but, saying that ,we all have our jokes about each other but nothing nasty. I personaly have got any probleme with them, they are law abiding decent people and we can live together without causing trouble, that cant be said of other races ie: muslims/moslems.I respect and admire the jews, which i cant say about others.Haven"t been on a while because i"ve been very busy, hope is well with all, g-d bless