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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: danny100 on January 24, 2011, 06:04:24 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzipi_Hotovely In 2010, Hotovely announced her support for a one-state solution, annexing Judea and Samaria to Israel, and producing thereby a single Jewish state incorporating the West Bank. This state would be approximately 70% Jewish and 30% Arab. At the age of 32, she is the Knesset's youngest current member.
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Unfortunately although well meaning, Tzippy, like most females, especially Israeli females, is not too smart, as she also advocates giving those 1.5 million Arabs in the West Bank Israeli citizenship and the vote!
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Tzipi_Hotovely.jpg)
She is Orthodox, virginal and unmarried at 32.
If she doesn't get married soon and bear children it'll be too late, as she will be psychologically unmariageable, if not already.
She is just the tip of a huge number of the new generation 25+ dyspareunic FFBettes who aren't marrying, don't want to marry and are unlikely to.
Hotovely'd make a good shidduch for Chaim.....she would ruin him!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzipi_Hotovely In 2010, Hotovely announced her support for a one-state solution, annexing Judea and Samaria to Israel, and producing thereby a single Jewish state incorporating the West Bank. This state would be approximately 70% Jewish and 30% Arab. At the age of 32, she is the Knesset's youngest current member.
But she also supports simultaneously giving all of the Arabs who live their voting rights. She is insane! (And possibly a mole planted by Bibi and elevated in his party's ranks for specifically this reason)
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She is Orthodox, virginal and unmarried at 32.
If she doesn't get married soon and bear children it'll be too late, as she will be psychologically unmariageable, if not already.
She is just the tip of a huge number of the new generation 25+ dyspareunic FFBettes who aren't marrying, don't want to marry and are unlikely to.
Hotovely'd make a good shidduch form Chaim.....she would ruin him!
Shut your effing hole, Pedofront refuse. I'm very sorry that attractive women with morals and who don't live like Muslim whores offend you. Not.
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But she also supports simultaneously giving all of the Arabs who live their voting rights. She is insane! (And possibly a mole planted by Bibi and elevated in his party's ranks for specifically this reason)
This was the MK member that I saw speak at an event 2 weeks ago. I wasn't thrilled with Tzipi Hotovely's answer ( concern about what the International Community thinks ) to Liz Berney's question. I made a video of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI5oTBucaBE
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She probably is a phony. I just had to say something to WonGAY's usual misogynistic and anti-Semitic nonsense.
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She is a very beautiful woman. Is she a Georgian Jew?
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She probably is a phony. I just had to say something to WonGAY's usual misogynistic and anti-Semitic nonsense.
I hear that.
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She was born in Israel of Georgian extraction http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzipi_Hotovely
She would scream her head off at a Kahane or a Chaim in the Knesset as much as the rest of them - maybe ever more so!
(http://www.tzipi.org.il/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Judea-Samaria-e1288831488448.300x300.jpg)
Tzippy needs to be married and do the mitzva of pru urevu & motherhood asap - that always quietens maidels down! However I suspect it is too late for her, as her ego is just too great. However, if the right Jewish multi-millionaire came along, she might just do it, like the other pseudo-"right-wing" plant, Caroline Glick, who also married late.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5jMnOzR_dQ
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I've never read any antisemitic statements by wonga. Are you confusing him with someone else? I usually agree with him - and I am certainly not antisemitic.
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She was born in Israel of Georgian extraction http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzipi_Hotovely
She would scream her head off at a Kahane or a Chaim in the Knesset as much as the rest of them - maybe ever more so!
(http://www.tzipi.org.il/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Judea-Samaria-e1288831488448.300x300.jpg)
Oh, OK, forget her then. I thought for a moment that she would make a beautiful wife for Chaim.
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Wonga has a habit of hating on women that are attractive or even mildly so - especially the Jewish ones.
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Wonga has a habit of hating on women that are attractive or even mildly so - especially the Jewish ones.
That's because he is a flaming faggot who is nauseated by non-Islamicized females. I hope he enjoys these.
(http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/pv/Christina%20Hendricks-4.jpg)
(http://emily-deschanel.org/photos/albums/Photoshoots/Session%2027/normal_005.jpg)
(http://images.paraorkut.com/img/pics/images/k/kelly_clarkson-5561.jpg)
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Danny Danon is also a little on the right-wing. He opposed Sharon's retreat and called Bibi's freeze "outrageous" http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133024
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Danon is Bibi's agent. He's good friends with the Judenrat (the Yesha council). Former head of the World Treacherous Likud. Assistant of the terrorist traitor Uzi Landau. Typical Likud Kapo.
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Wonga66 wrote:
If she doesn't get married soon and bear children it'll be too late, as she will be psychologically unmariageable, if not already.
She is just the tip of a huge number of the new generation 25+ dyspareunic FFBettes who aren't marrying, don't want to marry and are unlikely to.
What on earth are you talking about?
And for your information dyspareunia is a medical term used to describe painful sexual intercourse for women (due to medical or psychological conditions). How can you call all all 25 year old unmarried frum from birth women dyspareunic? Have you had sex with them all?
Also, why are women over thirty psychologically unmarriageable? What does that mean anyway?
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Wonga66 wrote:
What on earth are you talking about?
And for your information dyspareunia is a medical term used to describe painful sexual intercourse for women (due to medical or psychological conditions). How can you call all all 25 year old unmarried frum from birth women dyspareunic? Have you had sex with them all?
No, he has had sex with none of them, and that is why he is so frustrated and attacks Jewish women on the forum.
Also, why are women over thirty psychologically unmarriageable? What does that mean anyway?
Because he is frustrated that he is a single man and has not yet found a marriage partner. And it be de wimminz fault, not his, of course.
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Good answer, KWRBT.
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No, he has had sex with none of them, and that is why he is so frustrated and attacks Jewish women on the forum.
The only humans Wonga is interested in sex with are boys.
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There's no need to debase the forum and turn it in to a 'virtual bordello' by posting photos of irrelevant and out of context shiktzas who are not germain to the thread's topic!
Lisa adds: Wonga, I think the word you meant to use is "germane."
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There's no need to debase the forum and turn it in to a 'virtual bordello' by posting photos of irrelevant and out of context shiktzas who are not germain to the thread's topic!
Translation: "I enjoy doing men and that beautiful women disgust me."
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If you read the Haredi press, you will see that they have rabbinical crisis meetings every month to discuss the new phenomenon of the increasing number of FFB women, who normally would all be married by 22, still living with their parents in their 30s. Among the reasons are 1. Not enough suitable male matches for them. 2. Lack of desire for motherhood due to chemicals and growth hormones in foods wreaking havoc with their own hormones and motherhood urges. 3. Not finding men attractive, or men with enough money to give them security. 4. The internet. To girls who come from a pure background without TV, who are suddenly exposed to the internet, all it takes is one click on the wrong Youtube clip for them to see what awaits them on the night after the chassunah, and they are so repulsed that they immediately make an inviolable Oath to Hashem of celibacy that no man will ever touch them, with or without peyos! That is why there is a rabbinical ban on unfiltered internet in many kehillos. The rabbis seriously fear that if Jewish girls are corrupted by the internet, it could literally mean the end of the Jewish family and the Haredi nation.
Rabbi Pinchas Winston calls the Internet "The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil" ie if misused it could spell mankind's doom/a Messianic delay/a new expulsion/destruction!
What on earth are you talking about?
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If you read the Haredi press, you will see that they have rabbinical crisis meetings every month to discuss the new phenomenon of the increasing number of FFB women, who normally would all be married by 22, still living with their parents in their 30s. Among the reasons are 1. Not enough suitable male matches for them. 2. Lack of desire for motherhood due to chemicals and growth hormones in foods wreaking havoc with their own hormones and motherhood urges. 3. Not finding men attractive, or men with enough money to give them security. 4. The internet. To girls who come from a pure background without TV, who are suddenly exposed to the internet, all it takes is one click on the wrong Youtube clip for them to see what awaits them on the night after the chassunah, and they immediately make an Oath to Hashem that no man will ever touch them, with or without peyos. That is why there is a rabbinical ban on unfiltered internet in many kehillos. The rabbis seriously fear that if Jewish girls are corrupted, it could mean the end of the Jewish family and the Haredi nation.
It's amazingly hypocritical for you to accuse Jewish girls of being "uninterested in motherhood" when you, by definition, being attracted to men, aren't interested in fatherhood either.
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So how is it that these women, who can't find suitable matches, all have dyspareunia? After all, you did call them dyspareunic.
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Sperm counts are falling worldwide. Men, including Frum men, are also becoming less interested in marriage and finding a mate, as chemicals and pollution affect them too.
Men today are afraid of women, as legally all the power today is on the woman's foot, as they end up getting the children, house, car and bank account! Also the feminine mystique has largely gone from womanhood.
All this is predicted in the Tenach and Chazal.
You have to admire Haredi couples who may have zero mutual attraction, repulsion even, but who still force themselves to marry and do pru urevu, out of peer pressure and desire to perform the mitzva with mesirus nefesh, regardless.
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So how is it that these women, who can't find suitable matches, all have dyspareunia? After all, you did call them dyspareunic.
Wonga is the one who cannot fathom the notion of putting his member into a human female.
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I didn't say they're all dyspareunic. But it is known that petite, brunette, spikey-hipped 'precious' Ashkenazi Jewesses are prone to it.
Just to have experienced painful relations just once, or just even having a (even irrational) morbid fear of pain on sex, is enough to turn many off from having relations ever/ever again.
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Sperm counts are falling worldwide.
:::D
Citation?
Wait, don't bother.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2004/jan/08/thisweekssciencequestions3
:::D
Citation?
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I didn't say they're all dyspareunic. But it is known that petite, brunette, spikey-hipped 'precious' Ashkenazi Jewesses are prone to it.
Just to have experienced painful relations just once, or just even having a (even irrational) morbid fear of pain on sex, is enough to turn many off from having relations ever/ever again.
The type of sex you like is generally considered to be very painful, is it not? (Not that any woman would find that out firsthand, from you.)
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If you read the Haredi press, you will see that they have rabbinical crisis meetings every month to discuss the new phenomenon of the increasing number of FFB women, who normally would all be married by 22, still living with their parents in their 30s. Among the reasons are 1. Not enough suitable male matches for them. 2. Lack of desire for motherhood due to chemicals and growth hormones in foods wreaking havoc with their own hormones and motherhood urges. 3. Not finding men attractive, or men with enough money to give them security. 4. The internet. To girls who come from a pure background without TV, who are suddenly exposed to the internet, all it takes is one click on the wrong Youtube clip for them to see what awaits them on the night after the chassunah, and they are so repulsed that they immediately make an inviolable Oath to Hashem of celibacy that no man will ever touch them, with or without peyos!
LOL
Yeah, right man. That's one for the science fiction channel.
The wild stuff you imagine in order to rationalize your lack of success with women is simply astounding. Maybe instead of blaming them for everything, you need to look in the mirror. Look, I don't wish bachelorhood on anyone, even you wonga, and I want you to succeed and find a loving wife, but your expectations of what a woman is are clearly nutty, and you refuse to examine your own ways but keep making excuses for yourself and playing the blame game. Perhaps it's not that every woman you dated saw a jungle creature having intercourse on the internet and vowed to never touch a man, and only went on a date reluctantly to appease a friend or family member. Perhaps it's not that every woman you ever dated prefers to stay single and childless rather than become a mother, and just went on the date to talk to a man for a few hours thereby completely wasting your time maliciously...... Perhaps you are doing something (and/or saying something) wrong!
That is why there is a rabbinical ban on unfiltered internet in many kehillos.
NO, that is NOT why. You completely made this up!
There is a ban on the internet because certain "kehillos" want to control what information is available to its congregants and what information is not. And as a corollary, they want to keep the men from watching porn all day.
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Are you not bothered that a troll is insulting Jewish women and making anti-Semitic claims?
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So you aren't bothered by it?
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Fine. But it bothers me. That worthless faggot needs to be put in his place.
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Fine. But it bothers me. That worthless faggot needs to be put in his place.
Aufseherinnen need to be sliced into atoms not debated
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Guess what, I don't have the power to do that to him in any way but rhetorically, and I think I am doing a damn good job of that.
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She is just the tip of a huge number of the new generation 25+ dyspareunic FFBettes who aren't marrying, don't want to marry and are unlikely to.
Uh helloooo! You did call all 25 + frum from birth women dyspareunic.
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Wonga66 wrote:
I didn't say they're all dyspareunic. But it is known that petite, brunette, spikey-hipped 'precious' Ashkenazi Jewesses are prone to it.
Just to have experienced painful relations just once, or just even having a (even irrational) morbid fear of pain on sex, is enough to turn many off from having relations ever/ever again.
What on earth is "spikey-hipped?"
Are you a sex therapist or something?
And if the situation is so bad, with religious women being afraid of sexual intercourse and men's sperm counts falling, what do you suggest? You seem to do plenty of hand-wringing, but not much more.
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Uh helloooo! You did call all 25 + frum from birth women dyspareunic.
I think there is one point in what Wonga is saying. If women never have any exposure to men in an intimate or romantic manner and the first thing they see about sex is something vile, base or violent in the way men treat women which is everywhere in our media, they aren't going to want to have sex.
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It's comments like this that only lead me to believe that Wonga's general line of thinking is grossly detached from reality.
I didn't say they're all dyspareunic. But it is known that petite, brunette, spikey-hipped 'precious' Ashkenazi Jewesses are prone to it.
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Just like there have been amongst goyim very many marital crises, separations, divorces, murders even, caused by husbands finding their wives (and vice versa) having "a chat" on Facebook with a previous lover or boyfriend from 10, 20, 30, 40 even 50 years ago, so similarly one reads of whole Haredi families thrown in to turmoil, ruined even, even becoming instantly unobservant of mitzvos, by a father, mother, son or daughter found watching porn on the internet.
To most of us already sullied types, that may seem like a joke.
But if you're a person who has not seen it before in your life ever, to suddenly see it in actually reality for the first time ever, can be a life changing experience, especially for protected Frum girls, akin to the moment when the Serpent in the Garden of Eden had sexual relations with Eve, as the Midrash says, and thereby ruined mankind!
The Chazon Ish and the rabbis in 1950 were literally prepared to martyr themselves & their daughters to death to prevent Ben Gurion's plan of forceably conscripting all Haredi girls in to Zahal, because they knew that there they would be be immediately deflorated, unfrum, and turned in to Jewish harlots, with the result that the 1 million+ strong Haredi world would literally not exist today!
The Internet is now viewed by the Haredi as much more of a threat to their existence than even Ben Gurion! Kehillos make their members sign that they have no internet in the home, and those that are found with it, their children are expelled from the Haredi schools.
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Unfortunately although well meaning, Tzippy, like most females, especially Israeli females, is not too smart,
Tzippy needs to be married and do the mitzva of pru urevu & motherhood asap - that always quietens maidels down! However I suspect it is too late for her, as her ego is just too great. However, if the right Jewish multi-millionaire came along, she might just do it, like the other pseudo-"right-wing" plant, Caroline Glick, who also married late.
Be respectful to women, you misogynistic jerk. This is not a Muslim site.
By the way, Caroline Glick is way more intelligent than you.
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I've never read any antisemitic statements by wonga. Are you confusing him with someone else? I usually agree with him - and I am certainly not antisemitic.
Birds of a feather...
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Wonga you forgot to take your medication.
Go see a psychotherapist instead of posting here. You are delusional and need help immediately.
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I suspect that being an unmarried Orthodox Jewish woman, an "old maid" will soon become less and less of a stigma http://www.jewishjournal.com/opinion/article/modern_orthodoxys_marriage_crisis_20060609/
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Oh, OK, forget her then. I thought for a moment that she would make a beautiful wife for Chaim.
Thats what i was thinking,if she were to marry Chaim she would agree with him
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I suspect that being an unmarried Orthodox Jewish woman, an "old maid" will soon become less and less of a stigma http://www.jewishjournal.com/opinion/article/modern_orthodoxys_marriage_crisis_20060609/
A stigma? A stigma in whose twisted mind.
Being an unmarried (Orthodox Jewish) woman becomes a stigma at what age?
Who determines that? You?
If I were not going to be part of a good union, then I rather be an unmarried woman.
Yes, even if that means being called an 'old maid' by some idiot or societal idiots.
Maybe women who choose not to marry at a very early age - are not afraid of men - they are waiting for the right man. :P
I think that may the case in most instances. If it's not...it should be!
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I suspect that being an unmarried Orthodox Jewish woman, an "old maid" will soon become less and less of a stigma http://www.jewishjournal.com/opinion/article/modern_orthodoxys_marriage_crisis_20060609/
Wonga go seek help from a therapist. Jtf isn't for you
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Wonga is either delusional or purposely misleading. Some rabbis are against the internet and deathly afraid of its influence, surely that is true, but the real reason has nothing to do with what he is saying. The real reason is that the frum criminals are exposed on the internet, people are exposed to differing points of view and new ideas different from what the local rabbi says, and lastly all of the kefira that exists out in cyberspace challenging jewish belief. Ultimately all of these things I mentioned are 'dangerous' because they threaten the POWER and CONTROL of certain tyrants in the frum community who forcibly impose their hegemony and singular opinions on the rest of frum people. When their crimes are exposed, the community is shown not to be perfect as they try to portray, the magical fantasy notion of 'daas toyrah' is eroded and their power is seriously threatened. They can't stand frum people thinking for themselves and that is why certain haredi rabbis are deathly afraid of the internet and can't stand it.
That is also why HAREDI news sites have been banned by certain haredi rabbis
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It's sad since it is the religious Jews that I look up to. But it's the same B.S. with many of them..hopefully a small minority of them.
Wonga is either delusional or purposely misleading. Some rabbis are against the internet and deathly afraid of its influence, surely that is true, but the real reason has nothing to do with what he is saying. The real reason is that the frum criminals are exposed on the internet, people are exposed to differing points of view and new ideas different from what the local rabbi says, and lastly all of the kefira that exists out in cyberspace challenging jewish belief. Ultimately all of these things I mentioned are 'dangerous' because they threaten the POWER and CONTROL of certain tyrants in the frum community who forcibly impose their hegemony and singular opinions on the rest of frum people. When their crimes are exposed, the community is shown not to be perfect as they try to portray, the magical fantasy notion of 'daas toyrah' is eroded and their power is seriously threatened. They can't stand frum people thinking for themselves and that is why certain haredi rabbis are deathly afraid of the internet and can't stand it.
That is also why HAREDI news sites have been banned by certain haredi rabbis
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Dr dan, I think it is a small cadre of zealots and most frum people are victims of them. After one site popular with thousands of haredim , 'behadrei charedim' was "banned" its owners refused to shut it down and it still gets traffic from many thousands of haredim, daily. It is mainly a haredi news site and blogging/forum type site where many people interact. For me, these people thinking for themselves and participating in that kind of social site is healthy, not a danger.
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Dr dan, I think it is a small cadre of zealots and most frum people are victims of them. After one site popular with thousands of haredim , 'behadrei charedim' was "banned" its owners refused to shut it down and it still gets traffic from many thousands of haredim, daily. It is mainly a haredi news site and blogging/forum type site where many people interact. For me, these people thinking for themselves and participating in that kind of social site is healthy, not a danger.
And Jews, haredi or not, should always ask questions..even to their rebbi's...
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Wonga is not a religious Jew. He is probably StørmFrønt.
This is him on another forum:
http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/member.php?u=124
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TBF, we get your point. You believe Wonga66 is a pedofronter homosexual. So there's no need for more sexually graphic posts.
Also, I took a look at "Nonny's" posts on that forum. I didnt' see anything anti-semitic about them. Now granted, we don't agree with Wonga's posts, but that doesn't make him a nazi.
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She's nothin' but a fraud.
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What did I say that was sexually graphic? That he's gay? That is obvious.
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TBF, you wrote:
Translation: "I enjoy doing men and that beautiful women disgust me."
Wonga is the one who cannot fathom the notion of putting his member into a human female.
The type of sex you like is generally considered to be very painful, is it not? (Not that any woman would find that out firsthand, from you.)
This is a right wing religious forum. Making references to the members of our members is vulgar, as is the reference to homosexual intercourse.
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Wonga is not a religious Jew. He is probably StørmFrønt.
This is him on another forum:
http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/member.php?u=124
nonny is wonga noony sounds like a female name
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TBF, you wrote:
This is a right wing religious forum. Making references to the members of our members is vulgar, as is the reference to homosexual intercourse.
The things Wonga says in every single post are vulgar.
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nonny is wonga noony sounds like a female name
Who cares?
Seems like he makes the same nutty posts wherever he goes. At least he's being honest with us in that regard.
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On a related train of thought.... I am one who stands firmly against rabid feminism, or as Rush Limbaugh refers to them as 'Feminazis'. I blame this phenomenon of women not marrying at a realistic age or not marrying at all on the feminist movement. There are some feminists who are of the belief that they don't need men for anything, not even for having children. These women are dangerous to society and need to be shown that they are destroying the family.
I love women and know how to give and take in order to create harmony in the household. One thing which I agreed with AsheDinah about was the role of the woman in the home. The Jewish belief is that a woman is capable of her best when she is taking care of the home and helping the man to bring home the paycheck. I do realize that to some this sounds like a 'chauvinistic' opinion. It is not because I also recognize that I am not capable of being a woman, not capable of reproducing or viewing the world from a womans perspective. I need a woman and a woman should need me. This is the relationship between a husband and a wife. In Judaism we call this 'Shalom Bayis' or 'Peace in the Home'. Rabbi Lazer Brody recenty had an excellent lecture on the topic where he tells men what they need to do in order to keep his wife happy. A Jew should want to keep his wife happy, which includes supplying her needs for food, shelter, and intimacy.
I will refrain from judging Wonga negatively because I do not see anything which indicates he is an antisemite or a nazi. He has some ideas which I do not agree with.... I hope to learn what I can from him, and I hope to be able to influence him with my ideas.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Radio/News.aspx/2831
A7 Radio's "Lazer Beams" with Lazer Brody
True happiness at home can only be a realistic goal once a husband learns how to respect his wife. This lesson for men will dramatically change your life for the better!
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As 'Fate' would have it.... Israel National News has a poll concerning feminism...
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/More//Poll.aspx/132
Currently :
3% believe that 'feminism' will take over the world...
38.9% believe that 'feminism' will become friendlier to men and family values...
58% believe that 'feminism' will go away and never return...
I voted in the last category also...
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A7 recently ran the following story by a female Israeli MK who denounces feminism and claims it destroys the family...
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/141898
'Radical Feminism Hurts Women'
Shevat 18, 5771, 23 January 11 10:05
by Maayana Miskin
(Israelnationalnews.com) MK Yulia Shamalov-Berkovich (Kadima) stirred up a storm at week's end with her comments in favor of the Familists, a movement dedicated to protecting the traditional family unit. In numerous interviews and news articles, angry feminist media personalities berated her and unsuccessfully tried to get her to take back her statements. She spoke to Arutz Sheva's Hebrew-language news service Sunday and defended her statements, saying that while she is in favor of equal rights, radical feminism hurts women and families.
“I respect whatever way people choose to live, but the Knesset passes gender legislation that's generally in favor of women, that ultimately does not help women. Sometimes it hurts women,” she said.
The idea of feminism is often used “as a means of control,” she continued. Her ideal is “real equality,” she said, adding, “That's what led to all the commotion.”
As an example of “pro-woman” legislation that causes harm, she mentioned the law that calls for men to be removed from their homes if their spouse alleges abuse, even if there is no evidence and the charges have not been proven. The law gives women the power to hold the threat of removal from his home and from his children's lives over their husband's heads, she said.
“Removing the man immediately [in this fashion] hurts the children. Children are held hostages,” she stated.
Her goal is to make the family unit a national priority, Shamalov-Berkovich declared. As a start, Israel should subsidize relationship counseling, she said, and thus help married couples to stay together.
Another way to protect the family unit is to offer courses in parenting, she said. “There are thousands of schools that are closed in the afternoon. We need to make use of that space to hold parenting classes.”
As for radical feminism, she said, “I hope that radical feminism will disappear forever.” Radical feminism, she explained, undermines the family unit. She quoted an article by gender-feminist spokeswoman and organizer Dorit Abramovich, who attacked the traditional family unit, calling it a patriarchal establishment used by men to control and exploit women. The article was titled "The Scourge Called 'Family.'"
Radical thinking can seep into society's subconscious, the lawmaker explained, leading to a subtle discrimination against men and families. For instance, she said, it is considered acceptable to say that a man who reaches power owes his success to his wife, but not to credit a man for his wife's success. Shamalov-Berkovich was reacting to the scorn heaped upon her for saying - at a recent Familists conference - that she would not have succeeded as she had if it were not for her husband's support.
Shmuelov-Berkovitz said she had discussed her ideas with MK Tzipi Livni, head of the Kadima party. After a discussion in which she clarified her views, she and Livni reached an agreement on some points, but agreed to disagree on others.
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I didn't see anyone here advocating for feminism. All I saw was (nearly) everyone (rightly) condemning Wonga's asinine and sexist posts.
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I didn't see anyone here advocating for feminism. All I saw was (nearly) everyone (rightly) condemning Wonga's asinine and sexist posts.
Yes I know.... My input is not exactly on topic... It is completely unrelated to what wonga was saying...
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I imagine many people would like to see the 'feminists' go away.
I know I would. Men are men. Women are women. We are not the same. Equal doesn't mean the same. That is just silly.
Still, I don't think that every unmarried women (above a realistic age for marriage ::) ) has picked up the feminist gauntlet.
Women who think they need a man for nothing, even having children, are not women that men have to worry about. 8;) Don't you think that's true? If they are listening to the 'feminists' on the need for men, they either aren't interested in men or they aren't interested in marriage. PERIOD.
I think men could have more influence, then feminists, on young women. You might think about that.
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I think all men and women should try to get married to the opposite sex..and hopefully their soul mates.
Living a single life isn't the way to go if you don't have to.
This is to no offense to anyone here is older or younger is has never married or has been previously married. I will only speak for myself, for me to have gotten married was a necessary thing even if it seemed easier at one point to be single...And it will be necessary for us to have children even though having kids makes life much harder. For the most part as a larger plan in life, it is necessary to be married and to have kids (with Gd's help). There is no alternative to this.
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A selection of fine very "religious" marriageable Jewish girls?!
(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2142/tef1f.jpg)
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/1925/tef3.jpg)
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She is a very beautiful woman. Is she a Georgian Jew?
C'mon man, she's not beautiful, but she's a nice looking lady. Better than average!
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A selection of fine
Uhh.... No
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Who the hell are those?
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I do not want to offend any members, men or women, but I dont think it's attractive when women don traditionally male religious clothing. That is not hot or anything close to. I dont like seeing women in yarmulkes. I am probably being old fashioned. I see a lot of heterosexual females holding hands with their boyfriend sporting kipot. I do nt get it.
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If you read the Haredi press, you will see that they have rabbinical crisis meetings every month to discuss the new phenomenon of the increasing number of FFB women, who normally would all be married by 22, still living with their parents in their 30s. Among the reasons are 1. Not enough suitable male matches for them. 2. Lack of desire for motherhood due to chemicals and growth hormones in foods wreaking havoc with their own hormones and motherhood urges. 3. Not finding men attractive, or men with enough money to give them security. 4. The internet. To girls who come from a pure background without TV, who are suddenly exposed to the internet, all it takes is one click on the wrong Youtube clip for them to see what awaits them on the night after the chassunah, and they are so repulsed that they immediately make an inviolable Oath to Hashem of celibacy that no man will ever touch them, with or without peyos! That is why there is a rabbinical ban on unfiltered internet in many kehillos. The rabbis seriously fear that if Jewish girls are corrupted by the internet, it could literally mean the end of the Jewish family and the Haredi nation.
Rabbi Pinchas Winston calls the Internet "The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil" ie if misused it could spell mankind's doom/a Messianic delay/a new expulsion/destruction!
Are you smoking crack?
You are going on and on like a broken record, the Orthodox population is expanding, I think your frustrated with your self, this isn't even forum appropriate stuff to talk about.
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Sperm counts are falling worldwide. Men, including Frum men, are also becoming less interested in marriage and finding a mate, as chemicals and pollution affect them too.
I'll remember that next time I go to Mexico, Africa, or Asia.
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I stopped looking for rhyme or reason in Wongay's posts a long time ago.
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I do not want to offend any members, men or women, but I dont think it's attractive when women don traditionally male religious clothing. That is not hot or anything close to. I dont like seeing women in yarmulkes. I am probably being old fashioned. I see a lot of heterosexual females holding hands with their boyfriend sporting kipot. I do nt get it.
Yes, indeed, I agree wholeheartedly with this.
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When we annex Judea, Shomron, and Gaza, of course the Arabs should be allowed to vote!
1: Live under strict 100% Judaic law as non-citizen residents [with transgressors tossed out on their heads after one incident no matter how minor].
2: Leave E"Y with compensation [with the fair estimated of property assessment being adjusted to reimburse Sephardi Jews and their descendants who were evicted in 1948]
3: Being tossed out on their heads by any and all means available into anywhere but Israel with ZERO compensation.
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When we annex Judea, Shomron, and Gaza, of course the Arabs should be allowed to vote!
1: Live under strict 100% Judaic law as non-citizen residents [with transgressors tossed out on their heads after one incident no matter how minor].
2: Leave E"Y with compensation [with the fair estimated of property assessment being adjusted to reimburse Sephardi Jews and their descendants who were evicted in 1948]
3: Being tossed out on their heads by any and all means available into anywhere but Israel with ZERO compensation.
;D
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Yes, indeed, I agree wholeheartedly with this.
KWRBT,
Why do you think they do this? If they were lesbians, maybe I would understand it if they were masculine and trying to emulate the male role, but why would a heterosexual woman wear tefillin, wear Kipot, and wear men's religious garb. Psychologically, this baffles me.