JTF.ORG Forum
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Chaim Ben Pesach on March 04, 2011, 12:21:19 AM
-
בס''ד
Joshua Rosenberg (4International) has created dozens of absurd smear videos against JTF using numerous phony names.
Rosenberg once supported JTF and made videos promoting JTF. But his videos were unpopular because the first two minutes of each video showed his name flying around in space to show off his supposed video skills. People were bored and turned off by this egomania. I tried my best to promote Rosenberg's videos but very few people liked them. This enraged Rosenberg. Instead of accepting constructive criticism and improving his videos, Rosenberg hated JTFers for being unimpressed with his long and dull creations.
Then Ira, a talented Russian Jewish woman, started making videos that mocked me and JTF in a good natured way. I thought the videos were helpful because they publicized our movement. Most JTFers also loved Ira's humorous and imaginative work.
Rosenberg became insanely jealous of Ira. He stopped making any pro-JTF videos and instead devoted six whole months of his life to obsessively making videos viciously slandering Ira. Rosenberg made videos calling Ira a Nazi, obese, ugly (even though he never saw Ira, who is actually a very attractive woman).
Then Rosenberg turned against JTF and me personally. His anti-JTF hatred this past year has become another of his insane obsessions. Rosenberg has denied that he is behind this endless stream of videos, but we know without any doubt whatsoever that it is him. Rosenberg tried to pretend that he is a 17 year Russian Gentile living in Moscow with one of his fake accounts - until Ira exposed the fact that he spoke perfect English but did not know a single word of Russian. Rosenberg now tries to pretend that he is an Israeli and even writes in poor English deliberately. But Rosenberg the "Israeli" has to use Google translator to translate Hebrew.
Rosenberg once made many videos attacking Steven Weigang, calling him a Nazi, a homosexual and so on. But now he claims to support Weigang calling him a "rabbi".
Rosenberg pretended to be a friend of the Serbs. But he now makes videos together with Marbus, the Croat Nazi. Ironically, Rosenberg once made videos against Marbus as well.
I did not expose all of this fully because I foolishly felt sorry for Rosenberg. I let him attack me non-stop with dozens of videos for more than a year because I saw that he is mentally unbalanced. But I cannot be silent any more. Joshua Rosenberg is both sick and evil. He is a self-hating traitor to the Jewish people and he must be exposed.
BTW, please do not provide links to Rosenberg's videos on this forum.
-
My Gosh! What kind of freaks does JTF attract? This sounds like a paranoid schizophrenic multiple personality disorder...
-
We don't need a self hating Jew like that anyways. He has no shame in siding with nazi animals like weifag and marybos. He really needs help.
-
בס''ד
G-d willing, I will discuss this further on Ask JTF.
-
We don't need a self hating Jew like that anyways. He has no shame in siding with nazi animals like weifag and marybos. He really needs help.
בס''ד
Very true.
Joshua Rosenberg also works with Ben Mizrachi, the self-hating Jew from Bat Yam, who joined StørmFrønt and praised Hitler and the Nazis. Ben Mizrachi also curses G-d, using G-d's Hebrew name. Ben Mizrachi is one of the few members of Steven Weigang's pathetic forum along with Joshua Rosenberg and a user who calls himself "Zyklon B", which is the gas that was used to murder the Jews in the gas chambers during the holocaust.
-
Joshie Rosen-marrie the little "Jewish" American Princess is one cowardly chiwawa he will butcher his own slutty step-mother to keep his humiliating identity secret
-
It's a sign of Gd watching it's and taking care of us weeding out psychos that initially join the movement. We just keep doing the right things and Gd will continue helping and saving us.
-
Another traitor that is trying to ruin our reputation.
-
Good riddance to a rotten apple. JTF.org is infinitely better off without these mentally unstable freaks that eventually expose their true colors, and there have been several of them that have imploded this same way throughout the years. God is our bouncer and He shows them the door.
-
I'll be interested to see what you have to say about all this on Ask JTF Chaim.
-
How about we aknowladge this guy needs help and ignore him.
-
How about we aknowladge this guy needs help and ignore him.
בס''ד
We have ignored him for more than a year. I agree that he is not very important but I think we should at least respond to his endless smears. I can assure you that he will not be a major priority for JTF. He is just a minor nuisance. But I think we should at least let our people know what the real story is.
-
I thought his intros were kind of gaudy.
I guess some people just can't take criticism.
-
בס''ד
Very true.
Joshua Rosenberg also works with Ben Mizrachi, the self-hating Jew from Bat Yam, who joined StørmFrønt and praised Hitler and the Nazis. Ben Mizrachi also curses G-d, using G-d's Hebrew name. Ben Mizrachi is one of the few members of Steven Weigang's pathetic forum along with Joshua Rosenberg and a user who calls himself "Zyklon B", which is the gas that was used to murder the Jews in the gas chambers during the holocaust.
I just can't believe how stupid Stephen Weifag is.
-
I thought his intros were kind of gaudy.
I guess some people just can't take criticism.
I remember verbalizing that criticism myself (what I thought was a constructive criticism) on/about one of his videos before. Yikes. I had no idea it would drive the kid batty.
In any case, it's time to move on from the 'voice-changer' affair.
-
It seems like Joshua Rosenberg has an axe to grind. I have to second and third the people here who said they found those beginnings irritating. I would always skip over them to get to the JTF content of the video. Of course you can never get that just right, so his videos were always 1/3rds annoyance and 2/3rds enjoyment.
-
I know for sure that 'beleagered' is joshua. I used to give him the benefit of the doubt, but in at least one of his video's I recognise his voice, eventhough he uses software to give himself a chechen accent.
I don't care that whenever he called me he blocked his own telephone nr. I don't care that he taped all the conversations and supposedly 'lost connection' when he had to switch tapes. These are the benefits of not lying: I don't have to give a damn about anything. He can try to make video's with cut and pasted sentences, but I don't give a damn about that either.
-
בס''ד
Joshua Rosenberg has tried to pretend that he is a Russian, an Israeli and now a Chechen. But no matter how hard he tries, he can't hide his Australian accent.
What a mental case.
-
I know for sure that 'beleagered' is joshua. I used to give him the benefit of the doubt, but in at least one of his video's I recognise his voice, eventhough he uses software to give himself a chechen accent.
I don't care that whenever he called me he blocked his own telephone nr. I don't care that he taped all the conversations and supposedly 'lost connection' when he had to switch tapes. These are the benefits of not lying: I don't have to give a damn about anything. He can try to make video's with cut and pasted sentences, but I don't give a damn about that either.
He taped your conversations? What the?
Wow.
-
בס''ד
Joshua Rosenberg has tried to pretend that he is a Russian, an Israeli and now a Chechen. But no matter how hard he tries, he can't hide his Australian accent.
What a mental case.
A Chechen? Lol? Wow.
Next he'll be from the Congo.
-
Beleagured is definitely Steven. I am almost certain of that. He writes to my sister all the time
-
Beleagured is definitely Steven. I am almost certain of that. He writes to my sister all the time
I was under the impression for some time now that beleaguered is ben m.
-
Beleagured is definitely Steven. I am almost certain of that. He writes to my sister all the time
-Who is your sister?
-From what specific writings do you conclude that beleaguered is steven?
-Does your sister send everything he writes to you?
Beleaguered is joshua because I recognise his voice. I've seen the comments on his beleaguered channel and those are not the way steven would write.
-
בס''ד
Beleaguered is Joshua Rosenberg. He does videos with an Australian accent (Rosenberg is Australian).
-
What a beast. Yimach schmo to this animal.
-
Beleagured is definitely Steven. I am almost certain of that. He writes to my sister all the time
Why would your sister speak to people who openly work with nazi's all the time?
-
-Who is your sister?
-From what specific writings do you conclude that beleaguered is steven?
-Does your sister send everything he writes to you?
Beleaguered is joshua because I recognise his voice. I've seen the comments on his beleaguered channel and those are not the way steven would write.
He writes to her , tells her that she is hot, that she should agree with him, blah blah. ISn't his channel one where he has video of himself talking in a German accent? I have heard this voice.
-
Why would your sister speak to people who openly work with nazi's all the time?
Look she isn't his gf...and this other stuff about him being a nazi... do you think people outside of JTF follow this. I know she doesn't like that Marbus tw*t. Cool it with the accusations. Take a deep breath
These people give JTf free publicity. I read their rants from time to time and I see how crazy they seem. People need to see how these people look to outsiders. THEY LOOK NUTS
Example: Who is their right mind would think Chaim anyone was an Obese Chinese man touching himself. This is immature stupid high school hijinks
-
This is the account I am talking about
That featured video is on his page
This accent sounds like a mix of Pole and German. You think this is Australian? I am missing something
-
Look she isn't his gf...and this other stuff about him being a nazi... do you think people outside of JTF follow this. I know she doesn't like that Marbus tw*t. Cool it with the accusations. Take a deep breath
These people give JTf free publicity. I read their rants from time to time and I see how crazy they seem. People need to see how these people look to outsiders. THEY LOOK NUTS
Example: Who is their right mind would think Chaim anyone was an Obese Chinese man touching himself. This is immature stupid high school hijinks
-What accusations?
-Who is your sister?
-From what specific writings do you conclude that beleaguered is steven?
Beleaguered is definitely steven? I do not see any reasoning for such a bold statement.
-
This is the account I am talking about
That featured video is on his page
This accent sounds like a mix of Pole and German. You think this is Australian? I am missing something
Have you been following this whole issue? He uses voice altering software...
-
I believe that you know better than I do. I never said that I was correct, nor that I was following this as closely as other people. I just know that this beleagured guy is saying he's Steven. He also was hounding my sister for a picture she had of herself in a bikini..she didn't send it.
-
This is the account I am talking about
That featured video is on his page
This accent sounds like a mix of Pole and German. You think this is Australian? I am missing something
בס''ד
I removed the link to Joshua Rosenberg's account. We do not want to publicize his links here.
There is no question that Rosenberg is trying to fake an accent here. But his Australian accent does come through clearly later on in this boring video. There is no doubt whatsoever that that is Rosenberg's voice.
-
I believe that you know better than I do. I never said that I was correct, nor that I was following this as closely as other people. I just know that this beleagured guy is saying he's Steven. He also was hounding my sister for a picture she had of herself in a bikini..she didn't send it.
Why would your sister tell some guy on youtube that she has a picture of herself in a bikini? I don't see how that would have come up to start with.
Beleaguered is joshua. All the 'mr' youtube accounts are his as well. His life evolves around JTF and he spends a lot of money on this obsession.
I doubt 'rosenberg' is his real name.
-
I believe that you know better than I do. I never said that I was correct, nor that I was following this as closely as other people. I just know that this beleagured guy is saying he's Steven. He also was hounding my sister for a picture she had of herself in a bikini..she didn't send it.
Beleaguered joined Weigand's German forum. He is not claiming to be Weigang on the German forum.
-
Why would your sister tell some guy on youtube that she has a picture of herself in a bikini? I don't see how that would have come up to start with.
Beleaguered is joshua. All the 'mr' youtube accounts are his as well. His life evolves around JTF and he spends a lot of money on this obsession.
I doubt 'rosenberg' is his real name.
בס''ד
Joshua Rosenberg is his real name. He does everything possible to try to deny that he is Rosenberg. He even tries to misspell the name in order to confuse people. He desperately wants to prevent people from associating him with this.
-
Why would your sister tell some guy on youtube that she has a picture of herself in a bikini? I don't see how that would have come up to start with.
Beleaguered is joshua. All the 'mr' youtube accounts are his as well. His life evolves around JTF and he spends a lot of money on this obsession.
I doubt 'rosenberg' is his real name.
She didn't tell him she had a picture of herself in a bikini. She had a picture of herself at the beach with some female friends, but it wasn't a close up, he wanted a close up. End of discussion.
-
Beleaguered joined Weigand's German forum. He is not claiming to be Weigang on the German forum.
Chaim,
I am sure that he is pretending to be Steven Weigang with her then...positive. Also why make a video of yourself with a German accent and entitle your page with the title "I am Steven Weigang" or something like that if you are friends with that same Steven Weigang?
-
Not to go on and on about this topic, but I seem to remember there was some "female" supporter of Joshua who kept praising him endlessly and saying how amazing and professional his videos were, he's so much better than ira etc etc.... I'm laughing now because I guess that was also Joshua who created a fake girlfriend for himself with his voice changer.
-
Not to go on and on about this topic, but I seem to remember there was some "female" supporter of Joshua who kept praising him endlessly and saying how amazing and professional his videos were, he's so much better than ira etc etc.... I'm laughing now because I guess that was also Joshua who created a fake girlfriend for himself with his voice changer.
I never saw Ira's vids, but I remember Chaim praising someone named RCH who was a righteous gentile who spent hours helping Chaim. I think Chaim knew this girl. I dont think she was imaginary. I hope not
-
My Gosh! What kind of freaks does JTF attract?
Good question
Beleagured is definitely Steven. I am almost certain of that. He writes to my sister all the time
Beleaguered is Joshua. If he wanted to hide it, he should've let someone else narrate for him.
-
I never saw Ira's vids, but I remember Chaim praising someone named RCH who was a righteous gentile who spent hours helping Chaim. I think Chaim knew this girl. I dont think she was imaginary. I hope not
yea rch that was the one. I hope you're right!
-
What is most appalling is that he first entered the forum defending Serbs, and now he works together with croat nazi's.
One wonders what his intentions were upon entering JTF.
-
בס''ד
The self-hating Jew Joshua Rosenberg tries to incite crude anti-Semitism on his newest channels and videos. Rosenberg is preaching traditional Jew-hatred - even accusing the Jewish hero Ron Ben Michael of drinking German blood. In addition to the blood libel, Rosenberg tries to give people the impression that the Jews hate all Christians. He could not care less that this could cause more anti-Semitism.
Rosenberg also wants people to misspell his name: he keeps writing "Rosenburg". He obviously has a lot to hide in Australia where he does not want people to discover what he is doing. Rosenberg also does not want people to be able to google his name and find out what he is really all about. However, his real name is spelled "Joshua Rosenberg".
-
Well there is no doubt that Joshua Rosenberg has been very busy trying to di everything he can to promulgate lies regarding jtf. I saw on other channels he clearly is NOT Steven. I guess Steven is better looking so he claims to be Steven to get women. Not exactly a new trick.
-
Aside from the toilet humor and excessive profanity, the worst part about all of this is the repeated lie that Chaim pockets the donations for himself!
Steven Weigang, Ben Mizrachi and Joshua Rosenberg, may their names and memories be obliterated and may their bones be ground to dust.
-
בס''ד
This is unbelievable. Joshua Rosenberg is actually a Trotskyite Communist! Look at his insane web site "4International":
http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,53827.0.html
-
This guy is weird, I saw a bit of one of his videos which is over an hour long I think. He has some serious psychological issues, like he's obsessed with JTF.
-
chaim what do you think of this quote?
"One of the elements conditioning the compliant Jewish response to the process of extermination [specifically in Hungary in 1944, where the Jews knew well what was coming] was their own history.
The last time the Jews had taken up arms against an enemy was during the Judaeo-Roman wars of 66-70 C.E. and 131-135 C.E. On both occasions, they fought valiantly and lost disastrously. Those who during the first Judaeo-Roman war had counseled submission and surrender were installed by the victors as the religious and political leaders of the Jewish people.
The religious leaders of the European diaspora for almost two thousand years were the spiritual heirs of the Pharisees and rabbis who rose to political and religious dominance only after they had been selected by the Romans as their 'loyal and nonseditious agents.'
Thus, diaspora Judaism began in the aftermath of a catastrophic military defeat and survived by developing a culture of surrender and submission in consequence of that defeat. Until the bloody wars with the Romans, the Jews had been a violent, troublesome, rebellious nation.
Their transformation from a warrior people of the sword into a submissive people of the book led by plebian scribes and scholars took several generations. By the year 200 C.E., Jewish character had undergone one of the most radical pshychological and cultural transformations in history.
Rabbinic Judaism is the result of that transformation. It shaped Jewish character and conditioned Jewish responses in the diaspora for two thousand years.
Long after Western Jews were secularized and considered themselves 'emancipated' from their ancient traditions, they continued as an organized community to respond to their overlords as had those who surrendered to the Romans. No matter how grave the provocation, the Jewish community instinctively avoided violent response. They sought to avert hostile action by bribery, petitions for mercy, or appeals to the religious or moral sentiments of their adversaries."
-
I think that quote is a distortion written by someone with a bias against Judaism. Here's why:
Rabbi akiva was the leading proponent of bar kochva amongst the chachamim and his students fought for bar kochva in the revolt and many perished as the talmud reports.
"Rabbinic judaism" has as one of its main pillars the contributions of the same Rabbi Akiva on whose methodology and ideology the majority of the vast volumes that developed out of oral law into The Talmud are based on.
-
On 4international.wordpress.com, the blogger's name appears as Felix Quigley. Are you sure Josh and Felix are the same guy? Where do you see him and that Marbus guy together?
בס''ד
Joshua Rosenberg appears openly as one of the 4International Communist web site's main writers:
https://4international.wordpress.com/2008/03/09/the-itnguardian-trnopolje-omarska-death-camp-hoax/
That is why Rosenberg registered on the JTF forum as "4International", and made hundreds of youtube videos as "4International". The term "4International" represents the Communist followers of the vicious self-hating Jew Leon Trotsky, who was the brains behind the horrific 1917 Bolshevik revolution in Russia that led to 70 years of monstrous Soviet Communist tyranny, barbarism and genocide. Rosenberg is a Trotskyite Communist traitor.
Rosenberg has opened numerous accounts on youtube where he lavishly praises and defends Marbus the Croat Nazi. Rosenberg does videos together with Marbus. On a recent video, Rosenberg attacks me and JTF for calling Marbus a "Nazi". Rosenberg says on the video that Marbus is simply a "Croat nationalist" and that it is "ridiculous" to call Marbus a Nazi. So Rosenberg now whitewashes and defends Marbus, who is the number one promoter of Croat Ustashi Nazism on youtube. In other words, Rosenberg has not only betrayed the Jewish people, he has also betrayed the Serbs.
-
I dont understand. Why would anyone who was an admirer of communism be pro-JTF? Was Joshua Rosenberg also "RCH?"
-
No, rosenberg was not rch.
-
OK I JUST SAW THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME. ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT 4INTERNATIONAL, WHO MADE LOADS OF VIDEOS FOR JTF, WHO WE ALL BLESSED AND THANKED PROFUSELY, IS AGAINST US? WTH? I FEEL BETRAYED. WHO CAN I TRUST ANYMORE? I MEET PEOPLE HERE AND I FEEL SO HAPPY THAT I AM NOT THE "CRAZY RIGHT-WINGER" (WHICH I USUALLY AM EVERYWHERE ELSE I GO). JTF IS A HOME FOR ME AND WE ARE A FAMILY, AND THEN THIS CRAP HAPPENS? IT'S LIKE MY OWN FAMILY HAS DECEIVED ME. I FEEL CHEAP, DIRTY, USED, AND VIOLATED. WHO'S NEXT? BEFORE I KNOW IT MUMAN, DR. DAN, LISA, RON, KWRBT, MORD, BRENNAN, AND EVEN CHAIM COULD TURN OUT TO BE ENEMIES (CHAS V'SHALOM)....but the point stands.....this hurts man, this hurts a lot.
-
OK I JUST SAW THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME. ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT 4INTERNATIONAL, WHO MADE LOADS OF VIDEOS FOR JTF, WHO WE ALL BLESSED AND THANKED PROFUSELY, IS AGAINST US? WTH? I FEEL BETRAYED. WHO CAN I TRUST ANYMORE? I MEET PEOPLE HERE AND I FEEL SO HAPPY THAT I AM NOT THE "CRAZY RIGHT-WINGER" (WHICH I USUALLY AM EVERYWHERE ELSE I GO). JTF IS A HOME FOR ME AND WE ARE A FAMILY, AND THEN THIS CRAP HAPPENS? IT'S LIKE MY OWN FAMILY HAS DECEIVED ME. I FEEL CHEAP, DIRTY, USED, AND VIOLATED. WHO'S NEXT? BEFORE I KNOW IT MUMAN, DR. DAN, LISA, RON, KWRBT, MORD, BRENNAN, AND EVEN CHAIM COULD TURN OUT TO BE ENEMIES (CHAS V'SHALOM)....but the point stands.....this hurts man, this hurts a lot.
Relax, calm down. A few nuts do not define JTF.
-
It is very puzzling how we can have all these people who not just leave JTF but make 180 degree turns and start working with Nazis. What is it about JTF that appealed to these people in the first place if not the ideology? In Joshua Rosenberg's case, the discovery of his website sheds some light on why he may have joined the movement. Apparently Trotskyites are also against Muslims to some extent, who allied with Hitler. And Russia is traditionally pro-Serbia, so that could explain some of his interest in that area. But why start working with Nazis and Croats?
I'm guessing he cares more about his ego than any ideological principles. Ego is a big deal. Ego is the reason Haman wanted to kill all Jews in Persia, because one Jew Mordechai wouldn't bow down to him as he passed by. Moses, on the other hand, was the most humble man on the face of the earth according to the Torah, and went on to be Israel's greatest prophet and teacher. So ego is something we should watch out for, and humility is something we should strive for. If our feelings get hurt in the course of being part of a movement like JTF, we must remember that there are ideological principles greater than ourselves such as Torah, Zionism, and fighting evil that take precedence over us. A bruised ego should not mean an automatic sellout to the enemy.
I think rosenberg only sides with weigang, marbus and ben mizrachi for strategical reasons. That doesn't make it less despicable, but him calling weigang a 'Rav' is clearly meant to mock weigang, whether weigang understands it or not.
-
The only one from that group who appears to be serious and decent is poor Peter
-
The only one from that group who appears to be serious and decent is poor Peter
You're very wrong Mord. That animal is behind te scenes promoting wiefags site and he still pretends to be Jewish just so he can date Jewish girls. There is nothing serious and decent about this beast by any means.
-
God does not approve evil but may use it to further his ultimate plans of salvation and judgement for the world.
-
Who are those anti-JTF guys and what do they want from Chaim? Can somebody explain me please including any information about their time on JTF (if they were members of this movement).