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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: AsheDina on March 14, 2011, 12:26:33 PM
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I have prayed a long time over our situation.
First: I am not a hamas supporter, the very idea is absurd. I know you all realize this.
I dont like how Christians have been 'allowed' to be attacked here on the forum. And I stand by that. I believe that the thread on the Hebrew forum was possibly taken out of context, however, it hurt your good Christian supporters, but this is all past now..
BUT:
All of these attacks now are evil, imo-from who we now know is Joshua. I have heard this last video myself and know his voice very well. I was an online friend of Joshuas. And he phoned me many times and we had many nice convos. However, I am sickened knowing that an enemy was here.
About 13 mos ago, David and myself sent Joshua $50- to help with his videos. I was rewarded with a website called www.kahanistagainstjtf.wordpress.com , where Joshua called me a "White Supremist" for only reporting on the murer of Terreblanche.
I am not a white supremist at all. I am a JEW by my mother, DUH. At any rate, when Joshua posted this nasty post with my picture as well, it revealed to me his IP, area code, county where he lived, and his place of employment.
When I showed him that I knew everything, he shut the website down.
The internet is a strange place.
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Ashe, we miss you and David. Welcome back.
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The internet is a strange place.
True. Unpredictable events and unlikely encounters take place.
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Nice to see you here ashedina.
I am very surprised that the clown running that blog was joshua, but given his latest exploits, it is certainly in character for him! I'm. Surprised you sat on that info for so long but now we all know. The way he treated you, he behaved like an ungrateful jerk but what else can we expect from a communist who hates jtf. Oh well. Welcome back.
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Indeed the Internet is a strange place, there are many madmen out there. Ashedina it's nice to hear from ya', I love your songs!
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You send him $50? He called me on my cellphone for 5 hours. He must have money to burn.
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MMMMMMM HMMMMMM , OH NO YOU DI-INT! YOU GO GIRL!
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So where does he live anyway? What did his IP used to say?
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First: I am not a hamas supporter, the very idea is absurd. I know you all realize this.
You're certainly not.
I dont like how Christians have been 'allowed' to be attacked here on the forum. And I stand by that. I believe that the thread on the Hebrew forum was possibly taken out of context, however, it hurt your good Christian supporters, but this is all past now..
That kind of thing needs to be kept from happening in the future or the alliances with Pastor Manning and such will not work out.
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Welcome back, AsheDina!
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Welcome back Ashe Dina.
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Great to see your post AsheDina... You and David belong here at JTF... Welcome back!!
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בס''ד
Welcome back Ashedina. We missed you.
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Welcome back AsheDina!
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It's about time. I'm so glad to see you back.
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Shalom AsheDina,
I knew you would be back... It is good to hear from you again. Every once and a while I would wonder what was happening with you.
Im sorry you feel the way you do about some of the posts on JTF. But as always we can talk about it and try to work together for the greater good.
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She's Bock!
How many children do you have now?
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I have prayed a long time over our situation.
First: I am not a hamas supporter, the very idea is absurd. I know you all realize this.
I knew you weren't
I dont like how Christians have been 'allowed' to be attacked here on the forum. And I stand by that. I believe that the thread on the Hebrew forum was possibly taken out of context, however, it hurt your good Christian supporters, but this is all past now..
I don't think most any religion should be attacked on this forum with the exception of pislam.
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Welcome back. JTF needs more people like you. And yes, scaring away the Christians is very much against what the JTF and Chaim wants.
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Great to have you back, AsheDina!
Your strong opinions and great sense of humor are missed when you are not here...
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Great you're here :)
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Where did joshua's ip-address came from when he posted here?
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You're certainly not.
That kind of thing needs to be kept from happening in the future or the alliances with Pastor Manning and such will not work out.
( I am DEVASTATED over what this Joshua has done to me. I was online and phone friends with Joshua a LONG time ago. I didnt 'make an allegiance' for ANY OTHER reason except that I REALLY liked him. And this was 2 years ago! I stood with him, he made all of these good vids on BEHALF of the Serbs, Jtf, for me, for David only to have turned around, spy on us, call and record me (which is UNLAWFUL and I WILL prosectue this if he cont to harass me in ANY way shape of form, I have ALL info on him.) he took $50- and then posted on that website that I am a 'white supremist' just because I put a link up in regards to TerreBlanche? So did Pamela Geller. And the SPLC/ACLU now has HER listed as a 'hate site' because she only REPORTED on it. She is a WONDERFUL person!! But Joshua totally gave himself away with that last video. That IS him, it is not Steven Weigang, it IS Joshua. Why did he do this to me, I keep asking myself...WHY!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? You all have NO clue how this has made me feel so awful!!!
I tried to help him 'let this go' with the jtf. He even had sent me this email that a nice person sent to him advising him to forgive and forgive himself, etc. And what did he so? He LIED IN WAIT for an OPPORTUNE time to attack. And not just once, twice, we are talking ENDLESS attacks. ENDLESS. The one video that he put up is bad, but we CAN turn this around. WE HAVE TO!!!!!! This painted myself and David also in a bad light, which DEVASTATED ME, I LOVE the Christians here and this person thought NOTHING of that. NOTHING, only REVENGE.. This person only wanted REVENGE for himself, NOT wanting to 'expose jtf's "Christian hatred" there are really only a couple here that are rabid Christian haters) he wanted VENGEANCE. And Vengeance belongs to GOD, PERIOD)
Yes, Ruby, I totally agree 100%. Christians in THIS century are NOT the enemy. The ones that have stood with the JTF stand by David, me, they have stood with Chaim, CJD, etc.
Of course their are FAKE Christians that are abominable aholes, and thats the facts, they must be called out like we must, as the Jewish people call out the drek amongst ourselves. I believe we need to push toward HEALING now. We HAVE to.
People have been hurt, we CAN forgive and we MUST.
We will all have to pray and ask HaShem what to do to make things right amongst ourselves now. We must do the right things.
The JTF does NOT hate Christians. I have been called by HaShem from a young age to be a leader type. I do NOT hate Christians and most certainly do not hate Jewish people as well. Even though I am non-religious (as in Orthodox sense of any religion and dont want to be--Sorry, its just the way it is) I happen to enjoy both faiths and never hid this from you all.
We have a HUGE enemy out there people.
I encountered it.
Joshua and Trotskyite/Bolsehevik/Marxist/Progressive/Liberals-whatever they call themselves THIS week are the enemy and this SICKO 'religion' ISLAM. F Islam.
more.....
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This is what America did to the last ROSENBERG TRAITORS:
(http://jwa.org/system/files/mediaobjects/Rosenberg-Ethel-1.jpg)
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This is what America did to the last ROSENBERG TRAITORS:
(http://jwa.org/system/files/mediaobjects/Rosenberg-Ethel-1.jpg)
:laugh: :laugh:
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It makes me SICK!!!! A BOLSHEVIK SPY I was on the phone with. A SPY!
The very reason that Jew haters hate the Jewish people, spying, and that is what HE did to me.
I was on the tele. with a Trotskyite and didnt know it. I feel so violated, almost like a psychological rape.
What this terrible, treacherous person has done to my soul right now, I could just beat the sh*t out of him. And if this was not the net, you had better believe I would.
AND, let me tell you all something; This BOLSHEVIK COMMIE, Joshua and his ILK--what they have in mind to do to Christians and Jews AGAIN in THIS century is so far worse than any ugly things that have been said here. They plan to MURDER Christians, Jews, Conservatives and patriots. Thats the REALITY of this situation.
You all go LOOK UP what '4 th international' means!! It is an enemy that is just LIKE ISLAM. It is the ENEMY in Israel, the ENEMY in America.
I cant say anymore, I will blow up. I am so upset over this spying and treachery.
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It makes me SICK!!!! A BOLSHEVIK SPY I was on the phone with. A SPY!
The very reason that Jew haters hate the Jewish people, spying, and that is what HE did to me.
I was on the tele. with a Trotskyite and didnt know it. I feel so violated, almost like a psychological rape.
What this terrible, treacherous person has done to my soul right now, I could just beat the sh*t out of him. And if this was not the net, you had better believe I would.
AND, let me tell you all something; This BOLSHEVIK COMMIE, Joshua and his ILK--what they have in mind to do to Christians and Jews AGAIN in THIS century is so far worse than any ugly things that have been said here. They plan to MURDER Christians, Jews, Conservatives and patriots. Thats the REALITY of this situation.
You all go LOOK UP what '4 th international' means!! It is an enemy that is just LIKE ISLAM. It is the ENEMY in Israel, the ENEMY in America.
I cant say anymore, I will blow up. I am so upset over this spying and treachery.
Communist Intl organization
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u think its funny, Mord, but these OPPRESSORS of the soul just may end up murdering us, and JOSHUA is one of them!!!!!!
UNBELIEVABLE!!
This is the FATE that awaits the ENEMIES of freedom, God willing:
REMEMBER THE ROSENBERGS!! If you have that last name, you should change it.
(http://images.rarenewspapers.com/ebayimgs/4.12.2009/image033.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2768/4190446081_32f932eed7.jpg)
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"4 International"
(http://lcr02.free.fr/485px-Logo_of_the_Fourth_International-2.jpg)
they also align with ISLAM.
The Fourth International (FI) (1938–1963) is the communist international organisation consisting of followers of Leon Trotsky (Trotskyists), with the declared dedicated goal of helping the working class bring about socialism. IE: DEATH TO ALL DISSENTERS.
http://www.socialistaction.org/fi.htm
the Fourth International
Introduction: The Fourth International, also known as the World Party of Socialist Revolution, was founded in 1938 by Leon Trotsky and other revolutionaries trying to defend the revolutionary heart and soul of Marxism against Stalinism. Today it is a world-wide network of revolutionary socialist groups in over 40 countries.
Socialist Action is barred by reactionary U.S. legislation from formal membership in the Fourth International. However, we maintain fraternal relations with the FI and its sections, and consider ourselves a sympathizing section. We participate in FI World Congresses and other meetings, and work closely with our FI comrades around the world on a number of projects. Within the FI we fight to defend its original revolutionary, Trotskyist program. We urge, and support the building of sections of the Fourth International in every country. We urge our readers and supporters in other countries to get involved in the Fourth Internationalist group in their country.
For a thorough history of the Fourth International check out Pierre Frank's The Long March of the Trotskyists.
Groups Associated With the FI:
- Algeria - Socialist Workers Party
- Australia - Socialist Democracy
- Austria - Socialist Alternative
- Belgium (French) - Revolutionary Communist League
- Belgium (Flemish) - Socialist Workers Party
- Bolivia – Revolutionary Workers Party - Combat
- Brazil - Enlace current of PSOL
- Canada - Socialist Action
- Canada - Fourth International Caucus of the New Socialist Group
- Chile - Revolutionary Socialist Tendency
- China/Hong Kong - October Review Group
- Columbia- Present for Socialism
- Congo - Section of the Fourth International
- Corsica - Movement of the National Left (a current within)
- Denmark - Socialist Workers Party
- Ecuador - Socialist Democracy Current
- Egypt - Section of the Fourth International
- France - New Anticapitalist Party (a current within)
- Germany - Revolutionary Socialist League
- Germany - International Socialist Left
- Great Britain - Socialist Resistance
- Greece - Organization of Communist Internationalists of Greece-Spartacus
- Guadeloupe & Martinique - Socialist Revolution Group
- Iceland - Left-Green Movement (a current within)
- India - Radical Socialist
- Ireland - Socialist Democracy
- Italy - Critical Left
- Japan - Revolutionary Communist League
- Lebanon - Revolutionary Communist Group
- Luxemburg - The Left (a current within)
- Mexico - Socialist Unity League
- Mexico - Socialist Convergence
- Mexico - Revolutionary Workers Party
- Morocco - Militant
- Netherlands - Socialist Alternative Politics
- Norway - Internationalist League of Norway
- Pakistan - Labor Party Pakistan
- Palestine/Israel - Alternative Information Center
- Paraguay - Section of USFI (inside Socialist Popular Convergence Party)
- Philippines - Revolutionary Workers Party - Mindanao
- Portugal - Revolutionary Socialist Political Association
- Puerto Rico - Political Education Workshop
- Quebec - Socialist Left
- Reunion - Movement for a Reunionese Alternative to the Neoliberal Order
- Russia - Socialist League/Forward
- Senegal - African Party of Democracy & Socialism (a current within)
- South Africa - Workers Organization for Socialist Action
- Spain - Alternative Current
- Spain/Catalonia - Global Revolt
- Spain/Basque Country – Zutik/Stand Up
- Sri Lanka - New Sama Samaja Party
- Sweden - Socialist Party
- Switzerland - Solidarity
- Switzerland - Anti-Capitalist Left
- Switzerland - Movement for Socialism
- Syria - Anti-Globalization Activists of Syria (a current within)
- Tunisia - Revolutionary Communist Organization
- Turkey - New Way
- Ukraine - Section of the Fourth International
- Uruguay - Socialist Workers' Party
- USA - Socialist Action
- USA - Fourth International Caucus of Solidarity
Fourth International Publications:
- International Viewpoint (English language magazine)
- Inprekorr (German language magazine)
- Inprecor (French language magazine)
- Inprecor América Latina (Spanish & Portuguese language magazine)
- International Institute for Research & Education Notebooks
FI Resolutions & Documents:
- Socialist Action's Contribution to the 16th World Congress
- 2010 Resolution on Climate Change
- International Solidarity With the Peoples of Iran
- Solidarity With Haiti
- On the Situation in Sri Lanka
- Solidarity With the Peoples of the Peruvian Forests
- Against the Columbian government’s military intervention in Ecuador
- On the Tamil National Question
- Resolution on Brazil - February 2006
- Resolution on Mumia Abu-Jamal
- Resolution on Gay/Lesbian Liberation
- Resolution on Women's Liberation
- Resolution on the Ecological Crisis
- International Committee Reports
- International Bureau Statements
- Statutes of the Fourth International
- The Transitional Program
World Congresses of the FI:
- Founding Conference of the Fourth International
- First (Emergency) Conference of the Fourth International
- Second World Congress Documents
- Third World Congress Documents
- The First “Reunification” Congress of the United Secretariat (Seventh World Congress)
- The Second Congress of the United Secretariat (Eight World Congress)
- The Third Congress of the United Secretariat (Ninth World Congress)
- 12th World Congress - 1985
- 13th World Congress - 1991
- 14th World Congress - 1995
- 15th World Congress - 2003
- 16th World Congress - 2010
History of the Fourth International:
- Founding Congress of the Fourth International (1938)
- Toward a History of the Fourth International
- Yugoslavia & the Tito-Stalin Split
- The Split Between the International Committee and the International Secretariat
- The Leninist Trotskyist and the International Majority tendencies within the FI
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Actually there has been new evidence in the case of the rosenbergs released just recently.
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Actually there has been new evidence in the case of the rosenbergs released just recently.
What? That they were super sweet folk?
David Horowitz wrote all about them in his book, he and his family were really good friends with them-they were despicible traitors.
I am not likely to believe any 'new info' if it makes them seem 'less guilty'.
Or more info that would make them seem even worse, they are what they are and were: TRAITORS.
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Now someone is looking to see if I know his IP, going back in the posts-its in my stats. Well, I keep ALL IPS that are potential enemies.
I have incogmans IP, "FrumYid", "KahanistAgainstJTF" Cici, the Bolshevik, White Devil, whowhowho, too many to count. But...I have em ALL.
I WILL use it if my life & character is harassed.
I have filled out IC-3 forms, 5 of them now against people that are blocked from certain email carriers now because of the harassment.
I have called 2 places of work against people that have harassed me non-stop. One of them took the necessary action against an employee that was harassing me on THEIR time.
SO, DO NOT HARASS ME. I MEAN IT.
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Welcome back Pookie.
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What? That they were super sweet folk?
Uh, no, but there was new information that was made known. I forget what it was off the top of my head right now. Why are you overreacting to my comment?
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Welcome back.
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I dont know why you are giving this scum any attention. I have never heard of him, and I hope I never hear about him again. He is a nobody, and unless you have a desire to make him into a somebody, I suggest that he be ignored.
I am not saying you did anything wrong. Obviously this guy is screwed up. But really he cannot accomplish anything. If he is only getting his 15 minutes of fame by trying to attack JTF than so be it. It is not like he will change anyones mind but his own.
I have never seen any of his videos, I don't want to see any of his videos, I don't want a link to his videos. I don't care how many hits he has, I don't want to increase the hits by posting links to his videos. I don't want to know his Utube accounts and I don't want to google for his name.
Who cares about Four International? What has it accomplished? Is there any reason to fear it? I only fear Hashem and everyone else is just a puppet of Hashem.
I understand that you feel betrayed. That is a bad feeling and I condemn this bastard for what he has done to you, and to all JTF members. I suggest that you let it go, and don't spend energy which can be better spent on more productive things. Engaging in YouTube friend battles is a waste of energy, in my opinion....