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Israel => Save Israel => Topic started by: Duncan on June 08, 2007, 11:31:29 AM
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Like this is a bad thing?
The muslim pigs are already burning in hell, why should their graves be shown any respect.
Jews vandalize Muslim graves near Ariel
A Muslim cemetery in the village of Kifl Halith near Ariel was vandalized early Friday morning by a group of Jewish worshippers who had come to pray at the nearby grave of Rabbi Yehoshua Ben Nun.
The vandals spray-painted "Death to Arabs" on 10 graves.
According to the IDF, the guilty individuals were an anomaly among the group of some 1,300 worshippers that had come to pray at the rabbi's grave. Most, the army stressed, behaved in a manner "appropriate to a holy place."
"A small group decided to cause a provocation," an IDF official told Army Radio.
The military informed organizers of the early-morning prayer of the incident and received assurances that the damages would be repaired by next week.
The Rabbis for Human Rights activist group condemned the attack.
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its a good start ;D
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Death to arabs written on graves doesn't amount to anything. Death to arabs in real life, well there's a start. ;-)
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Like this is a bad thing?
The muslim pigs are already burning in hell, why should their graves be shown any respect.
Because they are dead already...it's the soul which we hate..the bad behavior which theyfollow...but once dead, the soul is where it is...the body is still in Gd's image...we should respect that irregardless of what soul occupied those bodies...
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I wouldnt be suprised if this was a setup by the gov. This could be an excuse not to allow Jews praying their.
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They should undig the graves and place a nice big pig right inside.
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I wouldnt be suprised if this was a setup by the gov. This could be an excuse not to allow Jews praying their.
That was my first thought. Or, perhaps, some muslims who wanted an excuse for more violence.
I'm not taking this one at face value.
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Faggots for Human Rights? I guess that's where Tonycali's so-called "gay rabbi" that spoke at his school came from. Didn't he say the "rabbi" was pro-Fakestinian?
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Because the Jordanians didn't turn our graves in Judea and Samaria into toilets and built roads and garbage dumps over the top of them. This is miniscule compared to what they have done to our graves, synagogues and holy sites. There should be no muslim presence in the holy land, not even a trace that it ever existed.
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I think that the D-9 dozers should be brought in and make a nice shopping mall, park, appartment building, road or even a nice synagogue on these areas. They are nothing but wasted space and to have Muslim buried on HaShem's Holy soil is truly a shame.
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I think that the D-9 dozers should be brought in and make a nice shopping mall, park, appartment building, road or even a nice synagogue on these areas. They are nothing but wasted space and to have Muslim buried on HaShem's Holy soil is truly a shame.
LIsten to yourselves! THey're dead already!
Secondly, those that vandalize Jewish graves shoudl be jailed and punished heavily.and so should their parents!!!!!
IT's the act we hate..so why do we repeat the act that we hate when others do it to us?
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I think its absolutely evil! How could anyone of you be satisfied with such a thing............its an evil sinful act definitly not of Jewish teaching probably. I may not be a rabbi as such but Haschem would certainly not be pleased for this to be committed, be it to enemies or not. The Jews are meant to be righteous people, people of example........not to commit the same sins the muslims do.
Dead people should be left alone in their graves with their punishments destined and decided by God.
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Dude, I was talking not of Jewish graves but of that of the Muslim graves.... That land would be much better served as a hotel, park, road, shopping mall...
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Dude, I was talking not of Jewish graves but of that of the Muslim graves.... That land would be much better served as a hotel, park, road, shopping mall...
Of course anything instead of muslim graves would be good within Israel...but now that there is a grave site there...can't do things like that...
unless someone can tell me there is a statute of limitations of how long one can build on a Muslim gravesite... :-\
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Dude, I was talking not of Jewish graves but of that of the Muslim graves.... That land would be much better served as a hotel, park, road, shopping mall...
I know you were and i meant people shouldn't disrespect graves even if they are muslim ones...the land may be better served yes, but everyone should be buried and its too late now, vandalizing them is just sinful not beneficial.
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I wouldn't think of it as vandalizing but land improvement/environmental reclaimation project ;). A muslim buried on/in HaShem's holy soil is a like taking a dump on the floor in Buckingham Palace. I could only imagine what happened to the Jewish Graves in Arabia......Nevermind....I do know...
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Why should Jews respect the burial sites of Nazis who did everything in their power to kill them when they were alive?
How many Jewish cemeteries in Morocco, Algeria, Egypt, Jordan, etc. were preserved after 1948?
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doing stupid unnecessary sht like that will only increase violece against onther Jews and Jewish semetaries, it will give the anti-semites in europe and around the world a justification in their minds of doing the same to Jewish graves, saying if jews do it to others we can do it to them. andyway it in no way solves the problem of the current Alive arabs who unlike their dead, do pose a harm to the people of Israel.
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doing stupid unnecessary sht like that will only increase violece against onther Jews and Jewish semetaries, it will give the anti-semites in europe and around the world a justification in their minds of doing the same to Jewish graves, saying if jews do it to others we can do it to them. andyway it in no way solves the problem of the current Alive arabs who unlike their dead, do pose a harm to the people of Israel.
Unfortunately that's the only thing they can do right now. The anti-Semites of the world will always desecrate Jewish graves and cemeteries no matter what. The "it will make them hate us more" does not fly.
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Jews did not do it! Muslim scum did it - probably some clan infigthing and then they blamed it on the Jews.
I am convinced of it.
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This is not an act of vandalism, it is an act of cleaning up your neighborhood. It is the same thing as cleaning up a vacant lot that is full of garbage. When any group of citizens cleans up garbage it is a wonderful civic act. Once the garbage is cleaned up it could be put to good use that will serve the community. Muslims have no place in the holy land, nor in Europe, nor in America. They belong with the mud people and the sand people where they can live like the lower primates they are, free to practice their vile customes and blood cults. I cannot blame these wonderful Jews for their actions, they are standing up and sending a message to these sand bipeds. This should be done in America, we must get rid of these muslim cultists and the rest of the undesirables that plaque us.
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I always thought that was called "urban gentrification"!
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I always thought that was called "urban gentrification"!
As you can see from my above post, I agree with you 100%. Glad to see you back brother... :)
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doing stupid unnecessary sht like that will only increase violece against onther Jews and Jewish semetaries, it will give the anti-semites in europe and around the world a justification in their minds of doing the same to Jewish graves, saying if jews do it to others we can do it to them. andyway it in no way solves the problem of the current Alive arabs who unlike their dead, do pose a harm to the people of Israel.
I think I agree with Tzvi Ben Roshel's view on this. I think it would increase anti-semitism.
Now if you dropped a neutron bomb on an area, you wouldn't have any graves left, but no one would be actually vandalizing them or digging them up.
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doing stupid unnecessary sht like that will only increase violece against onther Jews and Jewish semetaries, it will give the anti-semites in europe and around the world a justification in their minds of doing the same to Jewish graves, saying if jews do it to others we can do it to them. andyway it in no way solves the problem of the current Alive arabs who unlike their dead, do pose a harm to the people of Israel.
I think I agree with Tzvi Ben Roshel's view on this. I think it would increase anti-semitism.
Now if you dropped a neutron bomb on an area, you wouldn't have any graves left, but no one would be actually vandalizing them or digging them up.
I believe Jews and any moral beings have no business "fighting" dead.
We have to deal with those who are alive. That's the real challenge.
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Death to Arabs!
They have no place in Israel
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These sand bipeds have no business in any western country.
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Chaim has said that the last thing we should be concerned with is "increasing anti-Semitism".
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Chaim has said that the last thing we should be concerned with is "increasing anti-Semitism".
There is a great difference between vandalizing and planned removal of old cemeteries.
By vandalizing a grave you achieve nothing. If you are brave, let’s get the real problem out of our way. But fighting with the dead is as lowest level as you can get.
It is not a matter of Anti-Semitism or Pro-Semitism, it is a matter of self-respect.
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2000 years of history has proven that everything Jewish we do increases antisemitism. The best way to increase anti-semitism is to stand up for yourself. If Israel actually faught terrorism, exposed the fraud of the bolistinian, annexed the land, "transfered" the treasonous elements, ended these economically bankrupted Socialist schemas and imposed Jewishness within every aspect of its society the result would be a strong, productive, moral Jewish nation......HATED by this increasingly Socialist debased World...
Strong Jews increase anti-semitism... weak or dead Jews do not...
PS: It is not called fighting the dead but land reclaimation.....or a good public work project. The presence of Moslems on HaShem's holy soil is a shame...a sin...a chilul HaShem in my opinion.....
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I agree with your first paragraph.
In the post scriptum you say: “It is not called fighting the dead but land reclaimation.....or a good public work project.”
Reclaiming from whom, the dead or live Arabs? Plus, I did not know it was a project.
You further say: “The presence of Moslems on HaShem's holy soil is a shame...a sin...a chilul HaShem in my opinion”
I hope you were talking about the live Arabs, who are literally ON the holy soil. The dead Arabs however are IN the holy soil.
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I agree with your first paragraph.
In the post scriptum you say: “It is not called fighting the dead but land reclaimation.....or a good public work project.”
Reclaiming from whom, the dead or live Arabs? Plus, I did not know it was a project.
You further say: “The presence of Moslems on HaShem's holy soil is a shame...a sin...a chilul HaShem in my opinion”
I hope you were talking about the live Arabs, who are literally ON the holy soil. The dead Arabs however are IN the holy soil.
The comment on land reclamation concerning this issue would be comparable to cleaning up a Hazardous Waste situation or superfund site like love cannal in America. I was being facieses calling it a project. An Environmental project..... Actually, I'd think that the Muslims themselves would be happy to have their relatives burried on/in Islamic holy sands of Arabia?
Of course the live ones are a problem, that goes without saying.... The dead ones, like the mosques, could blessedly be "transfered" to Arabia where the followers of Mohammed and Allah belong.
Is that Robert DeNiro in your picture. I was happy when I got his autograph but later depressed in finding that he is an ultra-Leftist...
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Question:
What do the rabbis and Talmud say about land reclamation where graves used to be? How should the corpses be handled and where are they placed and when is it ok to do it if ever?
I'm sorry, in Judaism, you can't just go and bulldoze dead corpses..i don't care who is in that grave!
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Question:
What do the rabbis and Talmud say about land reclamation where graves used to be? How should the corpses be handled and where are they placed and when is it ok to do it if ever?
I'm sorry, in Judaism, you can't just go and bulldoze dead corpses..i don't care who is in that grave!
Even if it isn't actually human corpses that are buried?
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Question:
What do the rabbis and Talmud say about land reclamation where graves used to be? How should the corpses be handled and where are they placed and when is it ok to do it if ever?
I'm sorry, in Judaism, you can't just go and bulldoze dead corpses..i don't care who is in that grave!
Even if it isn't actually human corpses that are buried?
If there aren't homo sapian bones in the grave..then bull doze away...
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I agree with your first paragraph.
In the post scriptum you say: “It is not called fighting the dead but land reclaimation.....or a good public work project.”
Reclaiming from whom, the dead or live Arabs? Plus, I did not know it was a project.
You further say: “The presence of Moslems on HaShem's holy soil is a shame...a sin...a chilul HaShem in my opinion”
I hope you were talking about the live Arabs, who are literally ON the holy soil. The dead Arabs however are IN the holy soil.
The comment on land reclamation concerning this issue would be comparable to cleaning up a Hazardous Waste situation or superfund site like love cannal in America. I was being facieses calling it a project. An Environmental project..... Actually, I'd think that the Muslims themselves would be happy to have their relatives burried on/in Islamic holy sands of Arabia?
Of course the live ones are a problem, that goes without saying.... The dead ones, like the mosques, could blessedly be "transfered" to Arabia where the followers of Mohammed and Allah belong.
Is that Robert DeNiro in your picture. I was happy when I got his autograph but later depressed in finding that he is an ultra-Leftist...
I am more than sure that you wanted Robert DeNiro's autograph not because he was a right-wing politician, but a wonderful actor.
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Why should Jews respect the burial sites of Nazis who did everything in their power to kill them when they were alive?
How many Jewish cemeteries in Morocco, Algeria, Egypt, Jordan, etc. were preserved after 1948?
I've seen quite a few jewish villages in Morocco, there are quite a lot of humble jews who are still living there. Even in some of the large cities i've seen Jews. In Algeria however they were excluded completely.
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Well, I'll stick to my original position as history dictates it is justifiable that absolutely nothing Islamic should be within any place inside the borders of Aretz. The Islamic horde had not problem desecrating any and everything Jewish in their dozens of tin pot despotic dictatorships, even graves. It is not a situation of “we doing like them” as their ideologies and deed are very different, has history depicts, than Jewish.
I will not bother to defend my position because it speaks for itself. Oh yes, I did get the autograph because he was a very good actor but now when I look at it I get depressed because such a good actor holds such a vile political and social values/beliefs.
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I've seen quite a few jewish villages in Morocco, there are quite a lot of humble jews who are still living there.
Yeah, and they are certainly not safe. Morocco has more trade with the West than Algeria, so it kisses up a little more, but believe me, they live as dhimmi subhumans over there, and if they don't make aliyah soon they won't even live like that.
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Re: "...I am more than sure that you wanted Robert DeNiro's autograph not because he was a right-wing politician, but a wonderful actor..."
Now that you're disillusioned with him, you should call him Robert D. Negro :laugh:
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As usual, you come up with the witticisms that seem obvious, but that nobody else seems to think of. :D ;)
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Good post Massuh. The Muslims are Amalek. The Quraan says it, the Hadith places it forward very accurately. These vermin do not disserve peace or "tolerance" in life or death. Get the D-9's out and doze them back to Arabia or the Sea to make a needed wave break for a new marina outside a new Jewish beach front community. The Muslims have no business being in Israel, get rid of their Mosques, and get rid of everything....Islamic....even the Arabic language...OUT of Eretz... "Drive them out" says HaShem...
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doing stupid unnecessary sht like that will only increase violece against onther Jews and Jewish semetaries, it will give the anti-semites in europe and around the world a justification in their minds of doing the same to Jewish graves, saying if jews do it to others we can do it to them. andyway it in no way solves the problem of the current Alive arabs who unlike their dead, do pose a harm to the people of Israel.
Are you kidding? They've never needed ANY excuse. What possible difference could it make??
Personally,I reckon a moslem grave is the best place to take a dump after eating too much pork BBQ......and I never forget my 2ply koran. :laugh:
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This is obviously bad news. One should respect even one's worst enemies in the most basic ways as the human beings they are. All this hatred says to me is that you're taking sides based on your feelings and which side you're already on. Quite disgusting. (And this from someone who thinks nuking Mecca would be sweet).
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This is obviously bad news. One should respect even one's worst enemies in the most basic ways as the human beings they are. All this hatred says to me is that you're taking sides based on your feelings and which side you're already on. Quite disgusting. (And this from someone who thinks nuking Mecca would be sweet).
:'(
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This is obviously bad news. One should respect even one's worst enemies in the most basic ways as the human beings they are. All this hatred says to me is that you're taking sides based on your feelings and which side you're already on. Quite disgusting. (And this from someone who thinks nuking Mecca would be sweet).
One should not show any respect for one's worst enemies themselves but perhaps their techniques or will but not themselves. This is why there is the Jewish saying is "May the names and memory of this (enemy) be erased from history." Not hatred at all but logic. This is the logic behind Genesis 34 for example. One must eliminate evilness (Amalek) never to appease it. This also was the logic when HaShem told Joshaua to "Drive out" all the Amalek from the Land of Israel or they will be "Thorns in thine eyes and thistles in thy side". As you can see, this is the reason today Israel and the rest of the World is such a horrible situation. Without evilness this world would be Holy. Of course the aforementioned logic only applies to the Land of Israel and not to the "Protocol" Jewish World Domination myth.
Too one must remember that one reason why the Bible was given to separate the Human from Animals which one sees taking part in all the non-Judeo-Christian worlds. Well, I agree with your last thought but the former is illogical and immoral in my opinion.....my opinion... ;)
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doing stupid unnecessary sht like that will only increase violece against onther Jews and Jewish semetaries, it will give the anti-semites in europe and around the world a justification in their minds of doing the same to Jewish graves, saying if jews do it to others we can do it to them. andyway it in no way solves the problem of the current Alive arabs who unlike their dead, do pose a harm to the people of Israel.
Are you kidding? They've never needed ANY excuse. What possible difference could it make??
Personally,I reckon a moslem grave is the best place to take a dump after eating too much pork BBQ......and I never forget my 2ply koran. :laugh:
Since when Pork is cosher Newman?
I agree partialy with Rosh it won't help the Jewish cause although true hardline nazi/muslim antisemites won't give damn what Jews do only if they still live...
But here we're Torrah movement what Tanath and Talmud is speaking about graves of enemies? Even murderer shall be buried not left hanging; Jezebel remains were buried too... We shoud realy concentrate on filling the graves with muslims not empting them. ::)
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Agreed! Then pave them over for a nice parking lot for a shopping center..... Or grass them over for a park for the Jewish children to play in....