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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: White Israelite on May 08, 2011, 07:47:09 PM
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I guess this should put that "Khazar" myth to a rest.
Had a gentleman from the university of North Western Illinois analyze my DNA, despite my mother being European ancestry (converted) and my father was Jewish, there is still a very high percentage of middle eastern blood in my test results.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgMhgZdBsQs
Thought you guys would find this interesting.
First these are my Haplotypes.
My mother is mtDNA H1 which is common in Iberian people (Spanish, Basque, French), it's also found in most of Europe at medium frequencies but highest in Iberia.
My father is Y DNA J1c3 P-58 which is purely a marker found in Semites, it's in highest frequency amongst the Cohanim.
This is my analysis from Mr Doug Mcdonald from the Illinois University
Male
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Most likely fit is 75.9% (+- 14.7%) Europe (various subcontinents)
and 24.1% (+- 14.7%) Mideast (various subcontinents)
The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Tuscan= 0.153 Hungary= 0.566 Jewish= 0.280
French= 0.126 Hungary= 0.509 Jewish= 0.366
Spain= 0.072 Hungary= 0.577 Jewish= 0.351
Italian= 0.106 Hungary= 0.566 Jewish= 0.328
Tuscan= 0.714 Russian= 0.262 Mozabite= 0.024
Sardinia= 0.033 Hungary= 0.618 Jewish= 0.348
English= 0.118 Hungary= 0.488 Jewish= 0.394
Tuscan= 0.111 Romania= 0.866 Moroccan= 0.023
Tuscan= 0.150 Romania= 0.832 Mozabite= 0.018
Tuscan= 0.372 Belorus= 0.355 Jewish= 0.273
Second most likely fit is 88.3% (+- 8.9%) Europe (all Southeast Europe)
and 0.3% (+- 0.2%) Africa (various subcontinents)
and 11.4% (+- 9.0%) Mideast (all Jewish)
The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Hungary= 0.616 Yoruba= 0.000 Jewish= 0.384
Romania= 0.920 Ethiopia= 0.007 Jewish= 0.073
Romania= 0.920 Ethiopia= 0.007 Jewish= 0.073
Romania= 0.910 Mandenka= 0.002 Jewish= 0.088
Romania= 0.913 Maasai= 0.003 Jewish= 0.084
Romania= 0.916 Ethiopia= 0.004 Jewish= 0.080
Romania= 0.910 Yoruba= 0.002 Jewish= 0.088
Romania= 0.910 Bantu Ke= 0.002 Jewish= 0.088
Romania= 0.909 Bantu So= 0.002 Jewish= 0.089
Romania= 0.907 Biaka Py= 0.000 Jewish= 0.093
However, if you look at the PCA “scatter” plot with the Jews at the top,
you appear (based on verticfal position) to be roughly 25-35% Jewish,
and this is usually very accurate. The red spot on the map is probably
a good indication of your average European (i.e. non-Jewish)
ancestry. As to African, all Mideasteners except thye Caucasus people
test part African, nincluding Jews, and this just indicates a TINY bit more
than average.
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Genes shouldn't define anyone as a jew. It's what is in your heart and soul that should first define you as one.
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Genes shouldn't define anyone as a jew. It's what is in your heart and soul that should first define you as one.
And whether your mother is Jewish or was a convert.
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He calls european as non-Jewish ancestry, but Jews settled in France and Germany from the times of the Roman empire. These jews were from Eretz Yisrael and from Italy. So this whole exercise is stupid, and the professor who measured your DNA accepts the myths that Jews from Europe are not semitic. Also, if your mom was a convert, what is the point of this? OF COURSE SHE WILL NOT HAVE JEWISH ANCESTRY GENETICALLY. She came from a family of NON-JEWS.
Think about it this way, your dad is middle eastern ancestry, and yet here you have this professor telling you that you only have 25-30% semitic ancestry. What do you need this stuff for?
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DNA is a jewish lie! its as fake as osama's involvement in 9/11 and the moon landing.
david duke is right!
(and yes, this is sarcasm)
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DNA is a jewish lie! its as fake as osama's involvement in 9/11 and the moon landing.
david duke is right!
(and yes, this is sarcasm)
You are getting funnier... Very good!
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I understand about Jewishness being determined by the mother but the DNA refutes this so called Khazar myth being spread around.
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I understand about Jewishness being determined by the mother but the DNA refutes this so called Khazar myth being spread around.
But the test of your DNA doesn't really address that at all.
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But the test of your DNA doesn't really address that at all.
The Khazars were a Mongol people which goes against what the test is showing.
The European blood comes from my mother and the Middle Eastern blood from my father, the cluster is identical to the other Jewish groups which is separated from the European population.
The haplotype on the Y chromosome also indicates that as a J1c3 (formally J1e)
J1c3 is found in the following popluations.
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Haplogroup J1c3 - formerly j1e
Possible time of origin 9,000 to 10,000 BP[citation needed]
Possible place of origin Middle East
Ancestor J1c
Descendants J1c3a, J1c3b, J1c3c, J1c3d
Defining mutations P58/Page8
Highest frequencies Semites
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J1c3_%28Y-DNA%29
A 2009 study concluded that the haplogroup had a more Northern origin than previously thought. The origin of J1c3 is likely in the more northerly populations, spreading southward into the Arabian Peninsula. The high YSTR variance of J1c3 in Turks and Syrians supports the inference of an origin of J1c3 in nearby eastern Anatolia (the largest variance occurs in eastern Turkey, northern Iraq and northwestern Iran). Moreover, the network analysis of J1c3 haplotypes shows that some of the populations with low diversity, such as Bedouins from Israel, Qatar, Sudan and UAE, are tightly clustered near high-frequency haplotypes suggesting founder effects with star burst expansion in the Arabian Desert.[1] The overall conclusion of the study was that that J1c3 arose from pastoral nomads who would migrate based on rainfall patterns from the Zagros and Taurus mountains to the Levant, with the first such migration occurring during the neolithic period.
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And whether your mother is Jewish or was a convert.
That too. But if a child had a mother as a convert or even both parents converts, they aren't genetically jewish, but still be jewish. So it's not genes exclusively.
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The Khazars were a Mongol people which goes against what the test is showing
This test isn't showing anything to do with that. Your father is not a European Jew. So there is no relevance to the BS Khazar theory.
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European Jews are Jews !! This "gentleman from the university of North Western Illinois" can shove his DNA analyses where you know...
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This test isn't showing anything to do with that. Your father is not a European Jew. So there is no relevance to the BS Khazar theory.
Yes his Father is a Jew from Europe but his Genes are Semitic.W.I isn't your mother Bavarian? but it says Iberian
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European Jews are Jews !! This "gentleman from the university of North Western Illinois" can shove his DNA analyses where you know...
Yaakov, Mcdonalds studies have proven European Jews are also of Middle Eastern ancestry, he uses Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews showing that they cluster closer together in DNA studies than to the European populations.
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Yes his Father is a Jew from Europe but his Genes are Semitic.W.I isn't your mother Bavarian? but it says Iberian
Uhh, no, I'm pretty sure his father is Sephardi/mizrachi. White israelite, didn't you once say your father was a syrian or morrocan Jew?
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I can guarantee you that if you look at my DNA under a microscope that it spells J-E-W.
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Uhh, no, I'm pretty sure his father is Sephardi/mizrachi. White israelite, didn't you once say your father was a syrian or morrocan Jew?
Syrian, some of the family lived in Romania in Bucharest as well which was Sephardic up until the late 1800's
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Syrian, some of the family lived in Romania in Bucharest as well which was Sephardic up until the late 1800's
I see. Well, like I said, your father is a mizrachi Jew and so the test you did has no relevance to the khazar theory BS.
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Good find WI, but the zombies who believe the Khazar lie won't pay any attention. No joke, some Nazis believe that Jews are space aliens.
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Good find WI, but the zombies who believe the Khazar lie won't pay any attention. No joke, some Nazis believe that Jews are space aliens.
But this has no relation to the khazar krap.
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I guess this should put that "Khazar" myth to a rest.
That myth only exists because of anti-Semitism, not any true evidence, so it will exist as long as anti-Semites exist. They don't use evidence-based thinking to come to their conclusions.
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That myth only exists because of anti-Semitism, not any true evidence, so it will exist as long as anti-Semites exist. They don't use evidence-based thinking to come to their conclusions.
Absolutely. The people who believe in this would believe the moon is made of green cheese if it would cause Jews to die.