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Title: A real UN-righteous gentile
Post by: Chai on August 16, 2011, 05:13:47 AM
http://www.therightscoop.com/pat-condell-lets-blame-the-jews/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIesXORjBps&feature=player_embedded

However i disagree with him on the issue of Jewish religion that is the 1 and only reason Jews have a right to the land. Plus
Islam stinks like a halal cart.
Title: Re: A real righteous gentile
Post by: Harzel on August 16, 2011, 07:05:09 AM
He is not righteous at all. This man is pissed off from all the muslims who rob his country, but he still made a video were he said that although he basically likes Jews (because unlike the muslims the don't impose themselves) he thinks Jerusalem is an Arab city and  we should give it up.

To hell with him, I hope he gets gang raped by "palestinians".
Title: Re: A real righteous gentile
Post by: Alex37 on August 16, 2011, 07:54:38 AM
Righteous?! It's despicable calling this sub-human waste of oxygen, who demonically wants to give Holy Jerusalem to the Ishmaelite Nazis, "righteous". What an outrage! He'll enjoy a warm place in Gehenom, while his cadaver is thrown to boiling lava after it's dismemberment.     
Title: Re: A real righteous gentile
Post by: Dr. Dan on August 16, 2011, 09:55:07 AM
He's not righteous..He's an atheist.

Yes, he likes Jews, but would be against JTF's idealism.


However, on the other hand, he does say interesting things.
Title: Re: A real righteous gentile
Post by: Chai on August 16, 2011, 02:07:53 PM
 I just read his anti G-d rant, I'm surprised a big rabbi posted him on his facebook.

Ralph ur back?
Title: Re: A real righteous gentile
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 16, 2011, 02:37:49 PM
I don't always agree with Ron but he's dead right on this piece of garbage. He wants every nation to stand up to Muslims except Israel? That alone tells you what he is all about.

Ralph: Is he your boyfriend?
Title: Re: A real UN-righteous gentile
Post by: Meerkat on August 16, 2011, 04:27:34 PM
you guys do realize pat condell took back his comment about the jews having to leave jerusalem. he said that the muslims see any concession to islam as a sign of weakness  and that israel can keep it's land.

sure, hes an atheist, but a lot of the other stuff he says is spot-on correct.
Title: Re: A real UN-righteous gentile
Post by: briann on August 16, 2011, 07:39:02 PM
you guys do realize pat condell took back his comment about the jews having to leave jerusalem. he said that the muslims see any concession to islam as a sign of weakness  and that israel can keep it's land.

sure, hes an atheist, but a lot of the other stuff he says is spot-on correct.

While a lot of what he says is spot-on, and he is very persuasive, its what he said in the past which is very disturbing.  He definitely has a past of Jew-hatred.

Also, he is not a gentile, he is an atheist.
Title: Re: A real UN-righteous gentile
Post by: muman613 on August 16, 2011, 07:52:17 PM
While a lot of what he says is spot-on, and he is very persuasive, its what he said in the past which is very disturbing.  He definitely has a past of Jew-hatred.

Also, he is not a gentile, he is an atheist.


Isn't the word gentile a generic term for anyone who is not Jewish? Then an atheist could be a gentile....
Title: Re: A real UN-righteous gentile
Post by: briann on August 16, 2011, 07:57:07 PM
Isn't the word gentile a generic term for anyone who is not Jewish? Then an atheist could be a gentile....


Really???  I never used it this way and Ive never heard it used this way.  I am curious Muman, do you have a source for this and how commonly is it used like this?

Title: Re: A real UN-righteous gentile
Post by: cjd on August 16, 2011, 08:19:15 PM
Isn't the word gentile a generic term for anyone who is not Jewish? Then an atheist could be a gentile....

This is a new one on me... I always thought an atheist was an atheist and a gentile was a gentile.... I guess the way some Jews see it there would be little or no difference between the two...  Whatever.
Title: Re: A real UN-righteous gentile
Post by: cjd on August 16, 2011, 08:27:51 PM
Well according to the Thorndike Century Senior Dictionary printed in 1941 you muman are 100% correct... Heathens and pagans fit into the definition.
Title: Re: A real UN-righteous gentile
Post by: briann on August 16, 2011, 08:32:43 PM
Well according to the Thorndike Century Senior Dictionary printed in 1941 you muman are 100% correct... Heathens and pagans fit into the definition.

So according to this dictionary, Muslims are Gentiles.
Title: Re: A real UN-righteous gentile
Post by: muman613 on August 16, 2011, 08:34:27 PM
Gentile \Gen"tile\ (j[e^]n"t[imac]l), n. [L. gentilis belonging
     to the same clan, stock, race, people, or nation; in
     opposition to Roman, a foreigner; in opposition to Jew or
     Christian, a heathen: cf. F. gentil. See Gentle, a.]
     1. One neither a Jew nor a Christian; a worshiper of false
        gods; a heathen.
        [1913 Webster]
 
     2. A person who is not Jewish; -- used in this sense by Jews.
 
     Syn: goy[male], shiksa[female].
          [PJC]


Gentile \Gen"tile\, a.
     1. Belonging to the nations at large, as distinguished from
        the Jews; ethnic; of pagan or heathen people.
        [1913 Webster]
 
     2. (Gram.) Denoting a race or country; as, a gentile noun or
        adjective.
        [1913 Webster]
     Note: The Hebrews included in the term g[=o]yim, or nations,
           all the tribes of men who had not received the true
           faith, and were not circumcised. The Christians
           translated g[=o]yim by the L. gentes, and imitated the
           Jews in giving the name gentiles to all nations who
           were neither Jews nor Christians. In civil affairs, the
           denomination was given to all nations who were not
           Romans. As used by Mormons, the term gentile designates
           any person who is not a Mormon.
 
     Syn: Pagan; heathen. See Pagan.
          [1913 Webster]
Title: Re: A real UN-righteous gentile
Post by: cjd on August 16, 2011, 08:42:51 PM
So according to this dictionary, Muslims are Gentiles.
gentile or Gentile (jen'til) 1. personwho is not a Jew. 2. not Jewish. 3. heathen: pagan. 4. among Mormons a person who is not Morman. 5 among Mormons of or having to do with those outside the Mormon Community.     
The definition says nothing about muslims..

P.S ... I guess actually it does in #1 A person thats not a Jew.
Title: Re: A real UN-righteous gentile
Post by: briann on August 16, 2011, 08:44:30 PM
interesting, it looks like this term has been corrupted a LOT from its original meaning.

So, basically, the Romans used this as a term to anyone who was in opposition to Roman nation.  And later, it was later used for Heathens, (and included someone who was neither a Christian or a Jew), and later it became used as a generic term that we use today.

WOW!!!!  strange how words can change their meaning so drastically.

Title: Re: A real UN-righteous gentile
Post by: briann on August 16, 2011, 08:45:27 PM
gentile or Gentile (jen'til) 1. personwho is not a Jew. 2. not Jewish. 3. heathen: pagan. 4. among Mormons a person who is not Morman. 5 among Mormons of or having to do with those outside the Mormon Community.     
The definition says nothing about muslims..

I was being sarcastic when I saw heathen.   ;D
Title: Re: A real UN-righteous gentile
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 16, 2011, 08:48:06 PM
A Gentile is any non-Jew.
Title: Re: A real UN-righteous gentile
Post by: cjd on August 16, 2011, 08:48:33 PM
interesting, it looks like this term has been corrupted a LOT from its original meaning.

So, basically, the Romans used this as a term to anyone who was in opposition to Roman nation.  And later, it was later used for Heathens, (and included someone who was neither a Christian or a Jew), and later it became used as a generic term that we use today.

WOW!!!!  strange how words can change their meaning so drastically.


Yes, it is very interesting... I was quite surprised when I looked it up.
Title: Re: A real righteous gentile
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on August 16, 2011, 09:42:40 PM
He is not righteous at all. This man is pissed off from all the muslims who rob his country, but he still made a video were he said that although he basically likes Jews (because unlike the muslims the don't impose themselves) he thinks Jerusalem is an Arab city and  we should give it up.

To hell with him, I hope he gets gang raped by "palestinians".

No No NO, he has changed his view on this, Zelhar.  I really like him.  Have you watched many of his videos, my friend?  He is something to behold.  He is really very pro-Jewish and very against anti-Semitism.
Title: Re: A real righteous gentile
Post by: Harzel on August 17, 2011, 04:10:26 AM
No No NO, he has changed his view on this, Zelhar.  I really like him.  Have you watched many of his videos, my friend?  He is something to behold.  He is really very pro-Jewish and very against anti-Semitism.
I haven't watched many of his videos especially since I've watched his video about Jerusalem being an Arab city. He is a very good speaker although personally I don't appreciate his over confidence and lack of doubt in everything that he states. If you can quote and explain why he is very pro-Jew please do. Allot of Jew-haters say they are pro-Jew and have Jewish friends etc.
Title: Re: A real UN-righteous gentile
Post by: Lisa on August 17, 2011, 08:37:50 PM
Meerkat is right.  Condell *did* take back his comment about Jerusalem not belonging to the Jews.  Also, on another video, he beotch-slapped people who wrote him about how the Jews "run the world." 
Title: Re: A real UN-righteous gentile
Post by: muman613 on August 17, 2011, 08:45:44 PM
I do not learn anything from an atheist. I do not think that a real Jew should listen to a non-believer.
Title: Re: A real UN-righteous gentile
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on August 17, 2011, 08:59:25 PM
I do not learn anything from an atheist. I do not think that a real Jew should listen to a non-believer.


You should listen to him and then make up your mind.  Not listening reinforces a person's ignorance.  If one chooses ignorance, then that's a choice, but this man has things of value to say, and I would encourage you to give him a chance.  He is patently against anti-Semitism in a Jew hating world
Title: Re: A real UN-righteous gentile
Post by: muman613 on August 17, 2011, 09:15:49 PM
You should listen to him and then make up your mind.  Not listening reinforces a person's ignorance.  If one chooses ignorance, then that's a choice, but this man has things of value to say, and I would encourage you to give him a chance.  He is patently against anti-Semitism in a Jew hating world

There is nothing new under the sun...

Title: Re: A real UN-righteous gentile
Post by: Harzel on August 18, 2011, 04:13:18 AM
Meerkat is right.  Condell *did* take back his comment about Jerusalem not belonging to the Jews.  Also, on another video, he beotch-slapped people who wrote him about how the Jews "run the world." 
Then what did he say, what's his revised opinion ?
Title: Re: A real UN-righteous gentile
Post by: Meerkat on August 18, 2011, 03:42:50 PM
Then what did he say, what's his revised opinion ?

his new opinion is that israel should hold on to jerusalem and that any concession on it's part will be perceived as a sign of weakness.

he also said that the leftist media love the palestinians just to have an excuse to be antisemites
Title: Re: A real UN-righteous gentile
Post by: Lisa on August 18, 2011, 08:37:13 PM
I checked out the video.  It's the one I referred to in my earlier post about Condell b---h slapping people who claim Jews run the world.  If you click on the link and watch the video, he says very nice things about Jews, and how they contribute to every society in which they live. 
Title: Re: A real UN-righteous gentile
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on August 18, 2011, 09:08:52 PM
I checked out the video.  It's the one I referred to in my earlier post about Condell b---h slapping people who claim Jews run the world.  If you click on the link and watch the video, he says very nice things about Jews, and how they contribute to every society in which they live. 

I love the line where he compares the number of Nobel Prizes received by Jews versus those received by Muslims, 'tens more than Muslims, hundreds of times more than Muslims, oceans more than Muslims, worlds more than Muslims.'  LOL
Title: Re: A real UN-righteous gentile
Post by: briann on August 19, 2011, 12:27:14 AM
I think his support for Jews is genuine.  But again, we need to be skeptical for converts with evil pasts.