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Title: R’ Aviner: Koran needs genizah
Post by: דוד בן זאב אריה on August 25, 2011, 12:26:07 PM
Genizah is usually reserved for pages printed with Hashem’s name or objects used for mitzvot. Now Rabbi Shlomo Aviner says the Koran deserves a place there, too.
The question of whether a copy of the Koran must be placed in genizah instead of disposed of normally in the trash was posed to Rabbi Aviner in the weekly HaSoreg leaflet.
Since the Koran includes the name of Hashem and words of faith, it should be wrapped well and placed in genizah, Rabbi Aviner wrote in his response.
The rabbi is rosh yeshiva of Ateret Yerushalayim and the rav of Beit El.

This book needs to be burned whenever possible
Title: Re: R’ Aviner: Koran needs genizah
Post by: Dr. Dan on August 25, 2011, 12:32:22 PM
Genizah is usually reserved for pages printed with Hashem’s name or objects used for mitzvot. Now Rabbi Shlomo Aviner says the Koran deserves a place there, too.
The question of whether a copy of the Koran must be placed in genizah instead of disposed of normally in the trash was posed to Rabbi Aviner in the weekly HaSoreg leaflet.
Since the Koran includes the name of Hashem and words of faith, it should be wrapped well and placed in genizah, Rabbi Aviner wrote in his response.
The rabbi is rosh yeshiva of Ateret Yerushalayim and the rav of Beit El.

This book needs to be burned whenever possible

wrapped carefully in lard...
Title: Re: R’ Aviner: Koran needs genizah
Post by: דוד בן זאב אריה on August 25, 2011, 02:26:50 PM
The more I read about this so called "Rabbi" the more it puzzles me why so many of the Rabbis I respect at my Yeshiva not only respect this "Rabbi" but have him as there go to guy for Halacha. He doesn't even know the Halacot of Niddah
Title: Re: R’ Aviner: Koran needs genizah
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 25, 2011, 03:27:35 PM
Sounds like a NK "rabbi" to me.
Title: Re: R’ Aviner: Koran needs genizah
Post by: muman613 on August 25, 2011, 04:16:30 PM
Genizah is usually reserved for pages printed with Hashem’s name or objects used for mitzvot. Now Rabbi Shlomo Aviner says the Koran deserves a place there, too.
The question of whether a copy of the Koran must be placed in genizah instead of disposed of normally in the trash was posed to Rabbi Aviner in the weekly HaSoreg leaflet.
Since the Koran includes the name of Hashem and words of faith, it should be wrapped well and placed in genizah, Rabbi Aviner wrote in his response.
The rabbi is rosh yeshiva of Ateret Yerushalayim and the rav of Beit El.

This book needs to be burned whenever possible

Do you have a link that discusses this issue? In order to speak harshly against an Orthodox Rabbi who has smicha from a known Yeshiva it is necessary to know as much as you can before speaking..

On the surface this seems like a mistaken finding of Halacha... Genizas are only for Holy Jewish writings and the Koran is not a holy document in Jewish scripture. Also it is debatable whether it has Hashems name printed in it... I have never heard a rabbi claim that the god of islam has the same name as our Hashem. the closest I came was saying that allah is a corruption of Elokim. Does anyone know a source which discusses this issue?

Title: Re: R’ Aviner: Koran needs genizah
Post by: Harzel on August 25, 2011, 06:07:28 PM
Aviner is despicable, perverted, agent of the erev rav. The only explanation to why Aviner is doing the things he does is that he deliberately tries to rewrite Judaism. It's not just kahanists that have a problem with aviner, charedim too have ruled not to trust him and not to consult him.
Title: Re: R’ Aviner: Koran needs genizah
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 25, 2011, 09:32:14 PM
Genizah is usually reserved for pages printed with Hashem’s name or objects used for mitzvot. Now Rabbi Shlomo Aviner says the Koran deserves a place there, too.
The question of whether a copy of the Koran must be placed in genizah instead of disposed of normally in the trash was posed to Rabbi Aviner in the weekly HaSoreg leaflet.
Since the Koran includes the name of Hashem and words of faith, it should be wrapped well and placed in genizah, Rabbi Aviner wrote in his response.
The rabbi is rosh yeshiva of Ateret Yerushalayim and the rav of Beit El.

This book needs to be burned whenever possible

Lol I'm sure his government employerss are urging him to say statements like this because the settler youth have no reservations about burning korans and of course the precious prayer rugs lol
Title: Re: R’ Aviner: Koran needs genizah
Post by: דוד בן זאב אריה on August 27, 2011, 02:46:10 PM
In fact if you have a non Jew write a Safer Torah and It's checked by a scribe and it's found to be 100% kosher the Halacha is that you have to burn how much more so with a book that tell it's followers to kill the Non Jew
Title: Re: R’ Aviner: Koran needs genizah
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 27, 2011, 03:14:42 PM
Lol I'm sure his government employerss are urging him to say statements like this because the settler youth have no reservations about burning korans and of course the precious prayer rugs lol
Let me guess, he's getting a 100 million shekel check for his "yeshiva" for saying this.
Title: Re: R’ Aviner: Koran needs genizah
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on August 27, 2011, 04:35:44 PM
Suleiman Abu Nur, the Shabak's Mufti is no Rabbi. He was one of the main "Rabbis" who eliminated the resistance to the Gush Katif Holocaust by convincing Jews to surrender and was beating up those who didn't
Title: Re: R’ Aviner: Koran needs genizah
Post by: Harzel on August 27, 2011, 04:40:21 PM
Suleiman Abu Nur, the Shabak's Mufti is no Rabbi. He was one of the main "Rabbis" who eliminated the resistance to the Gush Katif Holocaust by convincing Jews to surrender and by beating those who didn't
And he is also a perv who harassed women and teach his followers to break the niddah rules.
Title: Re: R’ Aviner: Koran needs genizah
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 27, 2011, 04:56:26 PM
And he is also a perv who harassed women and teach his followers to break the niddah rules.
He probably schtups bull camel calves.
Title: Re: R’ Aviner: Koran needs genizah
Post by: Harzel on August 27, 2011, 05:04:05 PM
He probably schtups bull camel calves.
‎What I wrote is not a joke, it is documented and proven. (Sorry but I only have Hebrew source: http://aviner.net/)
Title: Re: R’ Aviner: Koran needs genizah
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 27, 2011, 05:08:09 PM
I believe you. I am just saying that people who practice one kind of perversion often don't stop at that.
Title: Re: R’ Aviner: Koran needs genizah
Post by: Harzel on August 27, 2011, 05:12:27 PM
And this is the testimony of a person whom Aviner physically and verbally ssaulted because he tried to block the IDF in gush katif.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D91xkM0YJM&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: R’ Aviner: Koran needs genizah
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on August 27, 2011, 05:14:09 PM
Shlomo Aviner is evil in its purest
Title: Re: R’ Aviner: Koran needs genizah
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 27, 2011, 06:14:20 PM
This chazir is either an NK "rabbi", a Koranimal practicing taqqiyah pretending to be a Jew, a Deformed piece of excrement, or a Saudi/Iranian agent.
Title: Re: R’ Aviner: Koran needs genizah
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 28, 2011, 02:38:56 PM
This chazir is either an NK "rabbi", a Koranimal practicing taqqiyah pretending to be a Jew, a Deformed piece of excrement, or a Saudi/Iranian agent.

But he is none of those things.  The reality is much worse than what you are suggesting.

Please do not mix fiction into the facts that are exposed in this thread.    He is a mamlachti 'religious zionist' rabbi who (mis)leads many settlers, and he is an agent of the Israeli govt.
Title: Re: R’ Aviner: Koran needs genizah
Post by: Meerkat on August 28, 2011, 03:11:59 PM
This chazir is either an NK "rabbi", a Koranimal practicing taqqiyah pretending to be a Jew, a Deformed piece of excrement, or a Saudi/Iranian agent.

yes, he is a chazir, but this guy is supposedly a religious nationalist. he compromised the resistance to the gaza expulsion.