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General Category => Introduce Yourself => Topic started by: Boeregeneraal on June 15, 2007, 01:12:28 AM
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Shalom
Ive just became a member of this TOV organisation-and i am VERY glad to be part.
Now, I am South African (Boer), but unfortunantly living in Australia :-[. I am sure, most of you are aware of why i have had to move from my beloved South Africa....
I am planning to go to Yisrael in about 2010, to join the IDF. Now, I am Christian-so I am not sure if I would be allowed to?
I have loved the Israeli nation since I was born, despite all the leftist anti-Israeli bull, God has set my mind on the right path, and I continue to be a Die-Hard Pro-Israeli
Now, I believe, that the Protestants and Jewish people need to sign an Alliance...as was done between the Government(prior to the communist takeover in 1994) of South Africa, and the Israeli Government-Our two nations helped each other considerably! And I would give my live for the establishment of that alliance.
Now, as I said, im living in Perth, Australia, and I ws wondering, is anyone reading this, perhaps in Perth? My family is not doing too good financially (these australians are very left-winged brainwashed-and they hate South Africans-and therefore, they cause us much pschological/financial problems :'()--Just having someone to speak to, would really increase morale.
I am extremely Right Winged, and I have done much Pro-Israeli writing.
Oh!, and i am learning Hebrew
Anyway, I have some work to do :-\ haha
Letraot
God bless the Boere Nation and Yisrael
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G-d bless you, Boere! You'll find that South Africans and Rhodesians have many friends over here. I don't know if you can join the IDF as a Gentile, but you might want to direct your question to our National Chairman, Chaim ben Pesach, in our Ask JTF thread found right here in General Discussion.
Anyway, I welcome you aboard with the warmest of welcomes and hope and pray for the day that civilized people once again wrest South Africa from the clutches of the AIDS-infected zoo that now runs it.
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Shalom C.F.
TODA for your reply. I will ask the Chairman.
Ken, South Africans tend to be more to the Right-they have seen the horror, terror and evil that is the left. I myself included, and I have made my life's decisions-to fight the left and all their allies. But also, to fight for the will of God, and his people.
If I may ask, why do some spell God, G-d ?
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Welcome to the board, Boeregeneraal! Glad you decided to join in.
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Ken, I am VERY glad to be here!
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Welcome aboard
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Shalom
I have loved the Israeli nation since I was born, despite all the leftist anti-Israeli bull, G-d has set my mind on the right path, and I continue to be a Die-Hard Pro-Israeli
Boeregeneraal, welcome! I would like to ask you if you remember what turned you pro-Israel. What it a particular even in your life? Or was it your parents? It doesn't cease to amaze me that righteous people all over the world report thair love for Israel. I have grown up with so much antisemitism that I really want to understand how it could be that where some people see cause for hatred, others do of love.
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JTF no longer supports serving in The IDF because it has become a Left Wing army of expelling Jews from their homes.
If this is an official JTF policy, then it is one I can not support.
Obviously, it's disgraceful and treasonous for the IDF to expel Jews from their homes.
However, we must not lose sight that the IDF's primary mission is still to protect the Land of Israel and the Jewish People.
Rest assured, with the amount of enemies Israel has, surrounded by 500 million Moozies, the IDF will be called upon again to accomplish it's primary mission.
And this mission must be accomplished even if it means protecting the lives of the filthy leftists currently running the show in Israel.
We can not cut off our noses to spite our face.
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My family is not doing too good financially (these australians are very left-winged brainwashed-and they hate South Africans-and therefore, they cause us much pschological/financial problems
Is it true that it's almost impossible for civilized white people wishing to flee the rat-hole South Africa has become to take their assets with them ?
I once heard a story about a well-to-do Jew in South Africa that wished to leave the country after the Bolshevik criminal Mandela and the ANC took over. The wealthy Jew was informed he was free to leave, but his financial assets would have to remain behind. Economic blackmail to prevent whites from fleeing the savages.
Supposedly, this Jew outsmarted the Mandela regime by converting all his assets to gold. Then he had the gold melted down and transformed into nails which he used to build a boat on which he sailed to Israel.
The black savages didn't realize what had happened until he was safe in Israel.
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MuckDeMuslims
Shalom Muck. Well, I immigrated 2 years ago, and im not sure of what has happend in the last 2 years regarding immigration. However, I do know, that when you come to australia, you can only bring a certain amount of money with you. We had a guy, that was well off, and he was unable to bring over his riches. So, he bought yachts-and sailed them from South Africa, to Sydney!
So, I think, it depends on the country you migrate to? But Ken, im not too sure, sorry.
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Well, God has truly blessed me, for I have ALWAYS been Pro-Israeli. Lo, there was no particular event really, but since ive been a child, there's been this, how can I call it-sort of ravity, that has pulled me to the good side. I mean, ive seen countless propoganda brainwash fils for example, yet, they have NEVER been able to convince me. I mean, usually, when a person watches one propoganda film, he hooked-but not me. And that's why I say, God has blessed me, and put me on the rightceous path.
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Welcome Boeregeneraal it's terrible what they did to your beautifull country
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Well considering Druze serve in the IDF I'd say they take non-Jews. Also, I know there are Russian gentiles and arabs in the IDF as well.
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Some families who emigrated from the USSR (in the days when there was USSR) had dentists put diamonds in their fillings, because you were only allowed to take $30 and one suitcase per family member. Ha-ha. Not my family though. We were poor. Our suitcases were not so full, so my mother put a broom (!) ;D ;D ;D in one of them, because she heard there are no brooms in America.
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Welcome !
I live in Israel, and if you are a citizen here you can serve in the IDF.
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If you are suothen african, what do you think about the AWB party (Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging) ?
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Well considering Druze serve in the IDF I'd say they take non-Jews. Also, I know there are Russian gentiles and arabs in the IDF as well.
Welcome to the Forum Boeregeneraal, it is fantastic to have you here. It takes an amazing amount of faith , courage and righteousness for a non-Jew to want to serve in the IDF and I commend you for it. I saw on TV recently an example of what blacks have done to your country, they were marching in the street demanding higher pay (organized panhandling) and it was sickening to watch. It looked like just another third world hellhole. I've also heard about the violence that the blacks are perpetrating on the dwindling white farms that are left, and it's infuriating.
Druze are citizens of Israel, and some Russian gentiles and all arabs who serve are citizens of Israel. That's why they can serve. Many of the Russians are half-Jews so they're allowed to become citizens. Also, many Russian gentiles who serve in the army are training on behalf of the Russian military in a special program. You are not a citizen and you're a Christian so you wouldn't be able to become a citizen unless you married an Israeli woman. You could always become a Jew though! There might be some sort of special program where non-Jewish people can serve in the IDF but not become citizens although I've never heard of such a thing.
I hope you find a way to serve in the IDF, we can always use good people like you.
As for the official policy of JTF concerning whether people should serve in the IDF, it's a ridiculous and untenable one. If everyone adhered to that policy, there would be no Israel to speak of!
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As far as why JTF opposes serving in the army, it is because the main function of the army is NOT to protect Israeli Jews. The main function is to serve as another arm of the Bolshevik establishment in expelling Jews from their own land.
The IDF enthusiastically obeyed orders to expel thousands of Jews from their homeland in order to hand over this sacred land to the Arab Muslim Nazis. But the same IDF would NEVER even consider expelling a single Arab Muslim Nazi.
ANY ARMY THAT EXPELS ONLY JEWS FROM THEIR HOMELAND AND EXPELS THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE JEWS IS AN ANTI-SEMITIC ARMY. ANY ARMY THAT EXPELS JEWS WITH SELF-HATING ENTHUSIASM BUT CALLS IT "RACIST" TO EVEN SUGGEST EXPELLING ARAB MUSLIM NAZIS IS AN ANTI-SEMITIC ARMY.
IF THE FRENCH ARMY OR SOME OTHER NON-JEWISH ARMY HAD DECIDED TO EXPEL JEWS AND ONLY JEWS FROM THEIR LAND, WOULD NOT EVERYONE CALL THAT ARMY ANTI-SEMITIC? WHAT IF THIS NON-JEWISH ARMY HAD DECLARED THAT EXPELLING ARAB MUSLIM NAZIS IS "RACIST", AND THAT ONLY EXPELLING JEWS IS PERMITTED?
As for the ridiculous argument that Israel will cease to exist if large numbers of Jews refuse to serve, the truth is the IDF will always have enough soldiers to do the pathetic little "defense" game that they are now playing with Muslim terrorists.
IF LARGE NUMBERS OF JEWS DECLARED THAT THEY REFUSE TO SERVE UNTIL THE ARMY BECOMES A JEWISH ARMY THAT DOES NOT EXPEL JEWS FROM THEIR HOMELAND, THAT WOULD SAVE THE STATE OF ISRAEL. AND IF LARGE NUMBERS OF JEWS DECLARED THAT THEY REFUSE TO SERVE UNTIL THE ARMY CHANGES ITS EVIL POLICY OF VALUING THE LIVES OF ARAB MUSLIM NAZI "CIVILIANS" MORE THAN THE LIVES OF JEWISH SOLDIERS AND JEWISH CIVILIANS, THAT WOULD SAVE THE STATE OF ISRAEL.
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Boere, welcome to the forum!
To answer your question about why G-d is spelled G-d, it is because Jews so revere the L-rd that they do not spell out His whole name unless it is to recite a prayer to Him.
BTW, about half of our members here are not Jewish. Including me.
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JSullivan reveals one of the answers to jeffguy & Scriabin when they ask MassuhDGoodName "...why are you angry?..."
"ANY ARMY THAT EXPELS ONLY JEWS FROM THEIR HOMELAND AND EXPELS THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE JEWS IS AN ANTI-SEMITIC ARMY. ANY ARMY THAT EXPELS JEWS WITH SELF-HATING ENTHUSIASM BUT CALLS IT "RACIST" TO EVEN SUGGEST EXPELLING ARAB MUSLIM NAZIS IS AN ANTI-SEMITIC ARMY."
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TODA for the warm welcome, im glad i met you all, and will definetly get to know you all.
Ok, so I have to be an Israeli Citizen?Mmm...ok, and what is required to become an Israeli Citizen? I mean, I would become an Israeli Citizen ANYTIME!
AWB= Well, they are pretty much useless at the moment-as they can not do much-and besides, the time is not right yet...
But yes, I dont really know what to say, they have not done much, and also, I don't really have much knowledge of them.
IDF=Well my Israeli Brothers-G-d willing, South Africa will return to civilised rule(white man). Then my Brothers, the South African Army will become the protectors of the Jewish People-that is, if the IDF is not our army, I would be prepared to defend the Jewish people via the SADF(South African Defence Force). Ken, South Africa will become a haven for Jewish people. The South Africans and Israeli's willbecome greatest of friends and allies.
I strive for this, and G-d willing, it will.
South Africa will also become a VERY strict country-and by that I mean: e.g.
Bann of Smoking
Bann of Pornography
Bann of filth television programs/music and movies etc
etc - Get my idea?
Basically, base the country' laws upon that of the Bible/Torah ---This is the ONLY way to build a succesfull nation
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TODA for the reply on why G-d is called G-d. But can you PLEASE explain it to me more? Im sorry, it's just, I want to learn more and more, you know
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Welcome to the board, Boeregeneraal. I see that you have come to us via AfricanCrisis. You'll do great here!
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Hail Columbia-- Shalom, Ja, I am an admin at the AFC forums, but unfortunantly, the forums are not nearly as active. In fact, i am going to tell my forums' members, that they should flock to this TOV forums-theyd love this forum!
Maybe, you and me should speak to Jan L, and talk to him about linking up between JTF and AFC? And also, maybe we can make the official AFC forums, to JTF?
Let me know hey?
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Boere, welcome to the forum!
To answer your question about why G-d is spelled G-d, it is because Jews so revere the L-rd that they do not spell out His whole name unless it is to recite a prayer to Him.
BTW, about half of our members here are not Jewish. Including me.
Also, the full name isn't written out in full because Jews respect the name of the L-rd and do not want His name to be defaced, disrespected or obliterated. If the full name of G-d is spelled out on a piece of paper or something, and that paper is later destroyed or thrown away, it is like defacing His name. For instance, if people spelled out the full name of G-d on JTF and JTF was to institute a policy of deleting really old threads after a while, the name of G-d would be destroyed and it would show a lack of respect.
There actually isn't really a prohibition of writing out His name, but since there is a likelihood that whatever is written will be destroyed, Jews choose to not take the risk.
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Hail Columbia-- Shalom, Ja, I am an admin at the AFC forums, but unfortunantly, the forums are not nearly as active. In fact, i am going to tell my forums' members, that they should flock to this TOV forums-theyd love this forum!
Maybe, you and me should speak to Jan L, and talk to him about linking up between JTF and AFC? And also, maybe we can make the official AFC forums, to JTF?
Let me know hey?
How do you know the word TOV ?
anyway, I think we need to jion us as much people as we can,
How does the white shouthen africans planning become SA to a nation with white goverment ?
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Hail Columbia-- Shalom, Ja, I am an admin at the AFC forums, but unfortunantly, the forums are not nearly as active. In fact, i am going to tell my forums' members, that they should flock to this TOV forums-theyd love this forum!
Maybe, you and me should speak to Jan L, and talk to him about linking up between JTF and AFC? And also, maybe we can make the official AFC forums, to JTF?
Let me know hey?
I've talked to Jan about closer coöperation between JTF and AFC, and he seems very receptive to that idea. As for making JTF the official forum for AFC, you will have to talk to jsullivan and Yacov Menashe ben Rachamim about that. Maybe they can create an AfricanCrisis section, either as an independent section, or as a subdivision of the Affirmative Action People Crisis section.
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Hail Columbia-- Shalom, Ja, I am an admin at the AFC forums, but unfortunantly, the forums are not nearly as active. In fact, i am going to tell my forums' members, that they should flock to this TOV forums-theyd love this forum!
Maybe, you and me should speak to Jan L, and talk to him about linking up between JTF and AFC? And also, maybe we can make the official AFC forums, to JTF?
Let me know hey?
How do you know the word TOV ?
anyway, I think we need to jion us as much people as we can,
How does the white shouthen africans planning become SA to a nation with white goverment ?
Well, ive learned a little bit of Hebrew (TOV=Good-right?)
As for South Africa, well, im not too sure about the specifics, but the blacks will launch a massive scale attack on the Whites, and G-d willing, the Whites will defeat the attack, and we will then turn the tables....
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Hail Columbia-- Shalom, Ja, I am an admin at the AFC forums, but unfortunantly, the forums are not nearly as active. In fact, i am going to tell my forums' members, that they should flock to this TOV forums-theyd love this forum!
Maybe, you and me should speak to Jan L, and talk to him about linking up between JTF and AFC? And also, maybe we can make the official AFC forums, to JTF?
Let me know hey?
How do you know the word TOV ?
anyway, I think we need to jion us as much people as we can,
How does the white shouthen africans planning become SA to a nation with white goverment ?
Well, ive learned a little bit of Hebrew (TOV=Good-right?)
TOV=GOOD
טוב
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I dont think Jews should join the IDF if they arent strong enough ideologically to refuse orders, but at the same time in pre-State Israel thousands of Jews joined the British forces, why would they do that? When the British were such viciouse Jew hating SOBs? To have the training so when the time came to have our own state we would be ready. I will be joining the IDF after I make Aliyah, for a similiar reason.
As for Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging I e-mailed them about their position of Israel, and they are pretty pro-Arab, they view the Jews as thieves who stole the land and are needlessly making the Arabs mad, and they support the creation of a Fakestinian State, so they are totally worthless as a group.
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As far as why JTF opposes serving in the army, it is because the main function of the army is NOT to protect Israeli Jews. The main function is to serve as another arm of the Bolshevik establishment in expelling Jews from their own land.
The IDF enthusiastically obeyed orders to expel thousands of Jews from their homeland in order to hand over this sacred land to the Arab Muslim Nazis. But the same IDF would NEVER even consider expelling a single Arab Muslim Nazi.
ANY ARMY THAT EXPELS ONLY JEWS FROM THEIR HOMELAND AND EXPELS THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE JEWS IS AN ANTI-SEMITIC ARMY. ANY ARMY THAT EXPELS JEWS WITH SELF-HATING ENTHUSIASM BUT CALLS IT "RACIST" TO EVEN SUGGEST EXPELLING ARAB MUSLIM NAZIS IS AN ANTI-SEMITIC ARMY.
IF THE FRENCH ARMY OR SOME OTHER NON-JEWISH ARMY HAD DECIDED TO EXPEL JEWS AND ONLY JEWS FROM THEIR LAND, WOULD NOT EVERYONE CALL THAT ARMY ANTI-SEMITIC? WHAT IF THIS NON-JEWISH ARMY HAD DECLARED THAT EXPELLING ARAB MUSLIM NAZIS IS "RACIST", AND THAT ONLY EXPELLING JEWS IS PERMITTED?
As for the ridiculous argument that Israel will cease to exist if large numbers of Jews refuse to serve, the truth is the IDF will always have enough soldiers to do the pathetic little "defense" game that they are now playing with Muslim terrorists.
IF LARGE NUMBERS OF JEWS DECLARED THAT THEY REFUSE TO SERVE UNTIL THE ARMY BECOMES A JEWISH ARMY THAT DOES NOT EXPEL JEWS FROM THEIR HOMELAND, THAT WOULD SAVE THE STATE OF ISRAEL. AND IF LARGE NUMBERS OF JEWS DECLARED THAT THEY REFUSE TO SERVE UNTIL THE ARMY CHANGES ITS EVIL POLICY OF VALUING THE LIVES OF ARAB MUSLIM NAZI "CIVILIANS" MORE THAN THE LIVES OF JEWISH SOLDIERS AND JEWISH CIVILIANS, THAT WOULD SAVE THE STATE OF ISRAEL.
Jimmy, you are my favorite and most respected poster on this forum.
However, on this issue I must disagree with you.
I think it's disingenuous to think that IDF soldiers were monolithic in being enthusiastic about throwing Jews out of their homes or that they universally relished or enjoyed surrendering land to the Moozie enemy.
No doubt there are a great many brainwashed leftists in the IDF that enthusiastically support the suicidal and treasonous appeasement policies ordered by their commanders on behalf of the Bolshevik traitors running the show from the Knesset.
On the other hand, this is true of the Israeli population in general.
It's hard to imagine a people or nation facing as obvious and as imminent an existential threat as Israel does, in which a substantial portion of it's populace would support the suicidal surrender of land, and the despicable expulsion/ethnic cleansing of their fellow Jews.
Yet this is the sad reality of Israel today.
But we can not lose sight of the fact that there is a large and ever growing segement of the population that is unalterably opposed to surrendering any of Eretz Yisrael. There is a large and ever growing portion of the population that does support expelling the Arab enemy within.
The ultimate solution is to wrest power from the Bolshevik Establishment that doesn't represent the common good of the Jewish Nation.
Can this best be accomplished by not participating in the political process or serving in the IDF ? One could easily extrapolate your argument and say that based on it's policies, Israel is a self hating, anti-Semitic nation and therefore Jews shouldn't live there.
This whole argument is analagous to, and reminds me of, the disagreement Chaim has with Noam Federman as to whether the real right wing should participate in Israel's political process.
It's a real tough call, and hard to know who is right.
My opinion remains that right wing Jews should continue to serve in the IDF, refuse to follow treasonous expulsion orders, and rebel against the Bolshevik commanders when necessary. I'd hate to see the IDF composed of only leftists.
In any event Jimmy, I want to thank you for all you do for JTF, and your undying support and love for the Land of Israel and the Jewish people. It's an honor to have you as a friend and brother.
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welcome you will do great here.
Please sign up to youtube and rate and comment on chais videos to give him the exposure he deserves....
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welcome you will do great here.
Please sign up to youtube and rate and comment on chais videos to give him the exposure he deserves....
Oh yes, that reminds me, while you're at it Boeregeneraal, try to get white South Africans who are on YouTube to watch our JTF videos.
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welcome you will do great here.
Please sign up to youtube and rate and comment on chais videos to give him the exposure he deserves....
Shalom,yes, my youtube account is Janolifant-feel free to watch my favourited vids-some good ones there. Ive already strated watching Chaim's videows-ratingg, commenting and favouriting them. I also flagged those youtube videos-that JTF wanted deleted (those by Boni)
Oh yes, that reminds me, while you're at it Boeregeneraal, try to get white South Africans who are on YouTube to watch our JTF videos.
I sure will. Mayby we can merge the South African movie makers, with JTF'?
AS for the AWB. Yes, I don't support them-as something always felt wrong about the organization' idealogies. I did not know about their Anti-Jewish ideas-thanks for sharing that, I will definitely now oppose them. However, their anti-Jewish believs, lay in their leaders, but not with their members-most Whites join, because they are in fear of their very survival-and in fact, White South Africans tend to actually be Pro-Israeli. However, I must say, that the Leftist Jews, have really given the Jewish people on the whole, a bit name. In fact, i know a person that has become Anti-Jewish(he is South African-white). The reason he now dislikes Jews, is because of the Leftist Jews, who helped overthrow the civilized white government. It's very sad for me-and i have on seveal accasions, tried to tell him, that in fact, the Jewsih People(exception to the Leftist), are actually the allies of the Boer nation. He has not contacted me, but he has stopped sending rubbish NAZI propoganda to me-so I believe he has seen the TRUTH?
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I am in 100% agreement with JTF's position on the IDF--for many reasons.
In addition to the very good one that its only purpose these days is to expel Jews from their land, one needs only look at the pitiful, decadent, and pathetic state it has currently reached. One needs look no further than its performance against Hezbollah last summer. Seriously--they are sending eighteen-year-old kids out with two weeks of training. What kind of sick joke is that?
I will never support sending Jews to die in a farce like that.
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Welcome to JTF Boeregeneraal, It is indeed very sad what has happened in South Africa. I am glad that you have decided to join us here at JTF because you will be able to tell us many first hand accounts of what happens to a country when blacks take over the reins of power from whites . Here in America we are starting down the same downward spiral and the results are already showing. Together we may be able to wake up some people to whats in store for them unless things change for the better.
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Once more, thank you everyone for the warm welcome, I feel very welcome, and im VERY glad to see that there are people out there, that believe in what I believe.
Now, it worries me deeply, when I look at the world, and the expansion of the black man. Look at the Americas(North & South), where blacks are rampant. Eaurope itself (a large percentage of Portugal is now black-not sure exactly, but more that 50%), France and the UK. The black man is now also rapidly expanding into australasia. It is not surprising, that since there are now blacks in my suburb, in a period of 2 months, they have attempted to burglar my home and vechile TWICE! Every night, I stay awake up until 2 o'clock-waiting for them!And when I get them....o boy... ;)
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Boere, just a suggestion, but do you have a means of learning Hebrew in Australia? Is there perhaps a local synagogue that has a class for the interested? If you want to go to Israel, IDF or not, it's a must!
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Boere, just a suggestion, but do you have a means of learning Hebrew in Australia? Is there perhaps a local synagogue that has a class for the interested? If you want to go to Israel, IDF or not, it's a must!
Shalom.
Well, the only way i have been able to learn Hebrew, is via the internet. However, I have thought of going to a synagogue-so they would propably teach Hebrew there?
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You know..few months ago i really wanted to see south africa because its seem to be a graet cuntry with awsome people...now i think i should not go there...with all the crime and the other thing...its a real shame what they did to our graet ally SA.
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You know..few months ago i really wanted to see south africa because its seem to be a graet cuntry with awsome people...now i think i should not go there...with all the crime and the other thing...its a real shame what they did to our graet ally SA.
Ken, it's perhaps better to postpone that idea for a few years...
Ken, South Africa and Israel were great allies-and G-d willing-the Boers will regain control, and re-establish our friendship with the Jewish Peoples