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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: BabylonianJew on June 17, 2007, 02:35:58 PM
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If you we win the war against the Arabs, should we use them as concubines? I think we should because everyone will become Jewish and their will no more Arabs, the childern of those women would be Jewish because they became concubines to Jewish men! Some of them look very good to!
Added by moderator MackaB: The arab women you have posted pictures of are ugly.
They are as ugly or uglier than left wing peace now Jewesses.
There are obviously beautiful women from all the nations (both physically and mentally).
If you are going to bring up such a topic, at least have the decency to find an Arab girl that is not waving a PLO flag, a trashy socialite Madonna look alike, or a leather-faced desert dyke wearing a veil.
Let's try to keep it classy. While the issue of concubines and conduct in war is a valid Torah question, it should not be continually appearing on the home page as this is not our motivation for liberating Israel.
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The taking of concubines is not permitted anywhere in scripture. It is evil and abhorrent.
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If you we win the war against the Arabs, should we use them as concubines? I think we should because everyone will become Jewish and their will no more Arabs, the childern of those women would be Jewish because they became concubines to Jewish men! Some of them look very good to!
I wouldn't want to reproduce with animals. I also wouldn't want Jewish blood to be tainted with arab blood. We can sell them off as prostitutes to other countries.
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What are concubines?
Knowing muslim women, after the men have lost and fought in battle, they'll come out of their houses to continue fighting until their last standings. A lot of arab women have had army training.
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It's pretty much either voluntary or involuntary sexual slavery. In this case I think it would be involuntary. In ancient Israel it was done all the time. It's still done in one form or another in the muslim world. Beduins in Israel have concubines.
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Thats completely evil.
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It's also adultery.
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If you we win the war against the Arabs, should we use them as concubines? I think we should because everyone will become Jewish and their will no more Arabs, the childern of those women would be Jewish because they became concubines to Jewish men! Some of them look very good to!
No Jewish child shall be a spring of:
1) A raped woman;
2) A non-Jewish woman;
3) A Jew-hating woman;
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In ancient Israel, the Israelites had Cannanite, Edomite, and Midain concubines. So why is it wrong now?
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A child of a raped Jewish woman is considered to be Jewish. I believe In the Torah, it mentions how outside women can be taken in and their children are considered Jewish if they are sexual slaves. I could be wrong about that though.
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The taking of concubines is not permitted anywhere in scripture. It is evil and abhorrent.
Yes, but the ancient did it anway did the disregard the scriptures? Also Abraham had Hagar as concubine!
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Wasn't that before the prohibition against adultery?
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The taking of concubines is not permitted anywhere in scripture. It is evil and abhorrent.
Yes, but the ancient did it anway did the disregard the scriptures? Also Abraham had Hagar as concubine!
But i thought he married her, officially?
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The taking of concubines is not permitted anywhere in scripture. It is evil and abhorrent.
Yes, but the ancient did it anway did the disregard the scriptures? Also Abraham had Hagar as concubine!
But i thought he married her, officially?
The reason Arabs are not God choosen people because she was his servent unlike Sarah
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Wasn't that before the prohibition against adultery?
have no idea
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A child of a raped Jewish woman is considered to be Jewish. I believe In the Torah, it mentions how outside women can be taken in and their children are considered Jewish if they are sexual slaves. I could be wrong about that though.
I was talking about an Arab or non-Jewish woman.
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In ancient Israel, the Israelites had Cannanite, Edomite, and Midain concubines. So why is it wrong now?
Because in ancient times there was no PLO, Hamas, Arab nation, Islam.
And most importantly, there was no such thing as a sense of national identity.
There were tribes, not nations. If you won in a war, you would take a complete and a long-term control over the defeated tribe and/or territory.
Woman were rightless and obeyed any fate. Men had a choice of either fighting or cooperating.
Now, if you defeat one arab country, the population of this country will know that they have a back up from a) other Arab nations and b) Muslim nations.
Thus the Arab women will be still loyal to the ideals of Islam and PLO.
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In ancient Israel, the Israelites had Cannanite, Edomite, and Midain concubines. So why is it wrong now?
Because in ancient times there was no PLO, Hamas, Arab nation, Islam.
And most importantly, there was no such thing as a sense of national identity.
There were tribes, not nations. If you won in a war, you would take a complete and a long-term control over the defeated tribe and/or territory.
Woman were rightless and obeyed any fate. Men had a choice of either fighting or cooperating.
Now, if you defeat one arab country, the population of this country will know that they have a back up from a) other Arab nations and b) Muslim nations.
Thus the Arab women will be still loyal to the ideals of Islam and PLO.
I think I understand but it will be intersting to use them as concubines especaily if they look like Queen Raina yumm or this lebenese girl
(http://i9.tinypic.com/5zmqdck.jpg)
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Babylonian Jew, does these creatures look like something you'd want to breed with?
(http://www.kargah.com/history_of_iranian_photography/qajarwomen/03.jpg)
(http://www.kargah.com/history_of_iranian_photography/qajarwomen/05.jpg)
(http://www.kargah.com/history_of_iranian_photography/qajarwomen/09.jpg)
(http://www.kargah.com/history_of_iranian_photography/qajarwomen/13.jpg)
(http://www.kargah.com/history_of_iranian_photography/qajarwomen/14.jpg)
(http://www.kargah.com/history_of_iranian_photography/qajarwomen/19.jpg)
(http://www.kargah.com/history_of_iranian_photography/qajarwomen/20.jpg)
(http://www.kargah.com/history_of_iranian_photography/qajarwomen/21.jpg)
(http://www.kargah.com/history_of_iranian_photography/qajarwomen/22.jpg)
Those women ARE NOT ARABS THEIR IRANIANS! EVEN ARABS MAKE FUN OF IRANIANS. ARAB GIRLS ARE PRETTY ALOT OF THEM.
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So what, there are lots of women all over the world who are beautiful. Does that mean we should rape them all?
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If you look back at the story of Abraham, you will find that God was angry with him about what he did with hajar, the taking of concubines is a sin, it's adultery if it's consensual, and rape if it isn't, yes it happened in ancient Israel, but reading the bible you will usually see that the people who did it were punished for it.
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Hot Arab women
(http://i14.tinypic.com/4mmfodf.jpg) very yumi
(http://i17.tinypic.com/4zlkaz8.jpg) yumi
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Those women are nothing special BabylonianJew. In fact, the one on the bottom looks like a middle-aged man. This post has degenerated into a BabylonianJew arab women adoration session. Hehe
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Hot Arab women
(http://i14.tinypic.com/4mmfodf.jpg) very yumi
(http://i17.tinypic.com/4zlkaz8.jpg) yumi
My friend, I can teach you how to get them without starting a war.
In any event, having a sexual orgy in mind while fighting for a holy cause is a desecration of the cause.
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Umm, no!
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In ancient Israel, the Israelites had Cannanite, Edomite, and Midain concubines. So why is it wrong now?
In ancient Israel, they sacrified animals too. But we no longer do that today.
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If you we win the war against the Arabs, should we use them as concubines? I think we should because everyone will become Jewish and their will no more Arabs, the childern of those women would be Jewish because they became concubines to Jewish men! Some of them look very good to!
Gd forbid!! When they surrender, they should all be sent away to the arabian desert hopefully never to bother us again.
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In ancient Israel, the Israelites had Cannanite, Edomite, and Midain concubines. So why is it wrong now?
Because we are living in the 21st century!!!!!!!!!!! That's why...Our laws and sense of human decency has evolved to a much higher level (in some parts of this world)!!!!
:o
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Babylonian Jew, do these creatures look like something you'd want to breed with?
(http://www.kargah.com/history_of_iranian_photography/qajarwomen/03.jpg)
(http://www.kargah.com/history_of_iranian_photography/qajarwomen/05.jpg)
(http://www.kargah.com/history_of_iranian_photography/qajarwomen/09.jpg)
(http://www.kargah.com/history_of_iranian_photography/qajarwomen/13.jpg)
(http://www.kargah.com/history_of_iranian_photography/qajarwomen/14.jpg)
(http://www.kargah.com/history_of_iranian_photography/qajarwomen/19.jpg)
(http://www.kargah.com/history_of_iranian_photography/qajarwomen/20.jpg)
(http://www.kargah.com/history_of_iranian_photography/qajarwomen/21.jpg)
(http://www.kargah.com/history_of_iranian_photography/qajarwomen/22.jpg)
what is this, Norman, you're relatives? :laugh:
Not all Muslim and Arab women look like that...I know some who are prettier than some of the Jewish sephardic girls I know...but that's not the point of this thread...
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Thank you for banning him...he's nuts!
As you can see by his below post to Chaim, he has been banned. Good riddance to him.
Note From Yacov:
Please read the following note. If you don't read it all out loud, at least read it to yourself.
Babylonian Jew is now banned. His E-mail address was "Tatar Power". I believe that he's some Caucus Mountain area creature.
His constant mention of white power websites led the moderators to believe that he is a Nazi. Every thread of his had some mention of racial anthropology. He claimed to be a Sfardic Jew born in Libya but he doesn't know how how to spell Sfardic or Mizrachi. He spells it "Miz hari" so I censored it through the word filter specially for him so it would come out as Mizrachi. He said an Arab told him it was called Miz hari. I think that might be a racial anthropology term that white Nazis use. He says he is half Libyan and half Iraqi. He says North African Jews are Berbers.
Even though he is banned, please answer his below question.
Dear Chaim
What do you think of Jews that eat Pork? I think their not really Jewish because they don't follow the rules of the religion and also the Pig is a dirty and unclean animal.
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His e-mail address is Tartar power! (it tastes good with fish) Isn't that pretty much conclusive proof that he is a fraud? What sort of Babylonian Jew would have that email address?
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Yacov, please give me a single verse from the bible in which it suggests that concubines are permitted.
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As you can see by his below post to Chaim, he has been banned. Good riddance to him.
Note From Yacov:
Please read the following note. If you don't read it all out loud, at least read it to yourself.
Babylonian Jew is now banned. His E-mail address was "Tatar Power". I believe that he's some Caucus Mountain area creature.
His constant mention of white power websites led the moderators to believe that he is a Nazi. Every thread of his had some mention of racial anthropology. He claimed to be a Sfardic Jew born in Libya but he doesn't know how how to spell Sfardic or Mizrachi. He spells it "Miz hari" so I censored it through the word filter specially for him so it would come out as Mizrachi. He said an Arab told him it was called Miz hari. I think that might be a racial anthropology term that white Nazis use. He says he is half Libyan and half Iraqi. He says North African Jews are Berbers.
Even though he is banned, please answer his below question.
Dear Chaim
What do you think of Jews that eat Pork? I think their not really Jewish because they don't follow the rules of the religion and also the Pig is a dirty and unclean animal.
First of all, it is Caucasus, not "Caucus", Mountain
Secondly, Tartars, are not from Caucasia, but from East European Plain in Russia.
Thirdly, I am from Caucasia, and your "Caucus Mountain area creature" is an insult to me too.
Fourthly, that is the same Caucasia, after which the Caucasian Race was named by Johann Friedrich Blumenbach in 18th century. So if I am a Caucasian "creature", then I don't know what you call yourself.
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I find the "yumi" business disturbing.
If concubines are sex slaves then i don't see any allowances, its wrong.
The women should either be left to decide the truth for themselves or exiled, not used.
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I find the "yumi" business disturbing.
If concubines are sex slaves then i don't see any allowances, its wrong.
The women should either be left to decide the truth for themselves or exiled, not used.
Brilliant.
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A concubine is any woman who lives with a man she is not married to. In ancient times it was as acceptable as marriage. Jacob also had concubines and 4 of the tribes of Israel are descended from them. They were his wives' handmaids.
Concubines are only wrong by Rabbinical decree, not Heavenly decree.
I personally would not recommend anyone to have concubines. First, it's not socially acceptable. Second, your wife will be the love of your life...far holier to have that type of marriage than many wives or concubines.
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Sex with arabs is bestiallity as they are sub-human. The only things arabs should be used for are target practice and fertiliser.
I think you should be used for fertilizer. Arabs aren't animals or beasts. This kind of talk is embarassing.
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1. According to the Bible, the women of enemy nations that we defeated were taken into slavery and became our slaves, not our concubines. We are not permitted to rape them. The Bible gives a scenerio where if a soldier in battle can't control himself from desiring to marry a conquered single woman, he is to go through a lengthy process in order for her to become permitted so that she would become disgusting in his eyes like he has to shave her hair and let her nails grow long, invite her parents over and stuff like that.
2. According to the Bible, it is permitted in Judaism to have several wives and to have concubines. We just don't do this any more since it became not popular and the Ashkenzim had a Rabbi who made a temporary ban on having several wives so the monogomous Gentile nations they were living in won't have hatred toward us or for some similar reason but the ban expired. Anyways, whatever is permitted by the Bible is permitted, my father's Karate instructor in the 70's was a Sephardic Jew who's father came from an Arab country and his father had several wives.
The Jewish concept of a concubine is not the same as the gentile concept. A concubine has the same status as your wife. The only exception is that if she wants a divorce she can do so by word of mouth and does not need any divorce contract and she does not have a marriage contract or a regular wedding ceremony. So in effect concubines have an advantage since they don't have to wait for the husband to give a divorce contract to be divorced if the marriage does not work out and they don't need a normal wedding ceremony to become married.
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Sex with arabs is bestiallity as they are sub-human. The only things arabs should be used for are target practice and fertiliser.
Ugh!! Shame on you! That kind of talk is unacceptable!
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All I can say about BabylonianJew is that Pikachu would be ashamed. Terribly ashamed.
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Having sex with an arab is beastiality.
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I agree with what you say completely newman.
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I'm a little leery to delve in considering this is the topic that once got me banned, but here goes...
A: I do NOT want anybody here to have relations with ANY Arab creatures in ANY shape or form. My only purpose in bringing it up before in the Gaza thread was to demonstrate the scriptural principle that G-d has no mercy on savage Nazi women, NOT that JTF members should all forcibly take Muslim Nazi whores as concubines!
B: The woman standing before the Lebanese flag is awfully hot (I really hope she doesn't have kids, for many reasons ;)), but would any of you have interest in her recalling that 11 months ago, she was dancing around in the streets in a hashish and khat-induced frenzy with green and yellow spraypainted hair?
C: I agree with Newman. The only thing Muslims are good for is fertilizer and plinking... oh, and I might throw in pig food as well. ;) :D
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I agree with what you say completely newman.
Thanks Z;
It's typical.......the demons and savages of the turd world want to devour us and we have our own people want us to "nice". Like hell!!
I would not compare myselfe in any way to the saint Rabbi Meir Kahane(ZTL), but he used to get the same dribble from these type of people.
" yes, Rabbi we know the savages are beating our brains out and trying to wipe us out but could you please tone it down and be a nice jewish boy."
Not me, Pal.
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I'm a little leery to delve in considering this is the topic that once got me banned, but here goes...
A: I do NOT want anybody here to have relations with ANY Arab creatures in ANY shape or form. My only purpose in bringing it up before in the Gaza thread was to demonstrate the scriptural principle that G-d has no mercy on savage Nazi women, NOT that JTF members should all forcibly take Muslim Nazi whores as concubines!
B: The woman standing before the Lebanese flag is awfully hot (I really hope she doesn't have kids, for many reasons ;)), but would any of you have interest in her recalling that 11 months ago, she was dancing around in the streets in a hashish and khat-induced frenzy with green and yellow spraypainted hair?
C: I agree with Newman. The only thing Muslims are good for is fertilizer and plinking... oh, and I might throw in pig food as well. ;) :D
Thankyou CF,
Evertone wrings their hands about the barbarians trying to destroy us, but don't want to do or say anything impolite!
If a savage breaks in and tries to club them to death, are they going to respond in kind and save their lives or act like a liberal arts professor and try to counsel them?
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...............And what's more, ladies;
These dear little arabs have clearly and plainly expressed their unabiguous deire to murder every jew on the planet and then do the same to every non-moslem(that is ...all the ones they don't pack rape or enslave) Get it?? That means you, me, Chaim .......... everybody.
Please.....smell the coffee here. ???
Exactly the case!!! Excellent Post!!!
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And you wanna know who killed the most Jews in history? White gentiles. I say we kill all the white gentiles. They're all animals and scum! They're beastial and sleeping with one would be beastiality.
Arabs are at the very least a distant second in terms of Jew-killing. I wager these savage asses saying that all Arabs wanna kill Jews have never met a single Arab in their life, nor a black for that matter as its generally the same subhumans making viciously racist comments on the affirmative action forum.
It's funny, I know plenty of Christian Arabs who are good people, including a bunch of terribly attactive ladies lol. I guess they're beasts though and not human. I should hate them because they obviously want to kill all Jews. It must be something in their DNA as Arabs.
As far as I'm concerned, all these hate-monger losers who just get off making ridiculous racist comments can drop dead. Get out of your basement and get a life. There's a real world out there and it wouldn't hurt if you learned how to live in it.
We have real enemies like Islam, communism, socialism, totalitarianism, etc and people just wanna have a laugh at some funny thing a black person did on the subway. That's Kahanism? That's JTF? Oh, some black person said Mmm Hmmm on a subway. Let's call them all apes and claim all they wanna do is rape and kill white people. Good job, guys.
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And you wanna know who killed the most Jews in history? White gentiles. I say we kill all the white gentiles. They're all animals and scum! They're beastial and sleeping with one would be beastiality.
Arabs are at the very least a distant second in terms of Jew-killing. I wager these savage asses saying that all Arabs wanna kill Jews have never met a single Arab in their life, nor a black for that matter as its generally the same subhumans making viciously racist comments on the affirmative action forum.
It's funny, I know plenty of Christian Arabs who are good people, including a bunch of terribly attactive ladies lol. I guess they're beasts though and not human. I should hate them because they obviously want to kill all Jews. It must be something in their DNA as Arabs.
As far as I'm concerned, all these hate-monger losers who just get off making ridiculous racist comments can drop dead. Get out of your basement and get a life. There's a real world out there and it wouldn't hurt if you learned how to live in it.
We have real enemies like Islam, communism, socialism, totalitarianism, etc and people just wanna have a laugh at some funny thing a black person did on the subway. That's Kahanism? That's JTF? Oh, some black person said Mmm Hmmm on a subway. Let's call them all apes and claim all they wanna do is rape and kill white people. Good job, guys.
Talk about getting out of the basement and getting a life!
Get into the 21st cenyury. It's arabs killing all the jews NOW.
It's arabs wanting to destroy us NOW
The barbarous criminality of minorities in western cities NOW is a damn site more serious than old man river MMM HMM.
Lastly, the attractive christian "arabs" you may slobber over are for the most part NOT arabs.Lebanese christians (very attractive ladies there) are descended from pheonicains- NOT arabs. Syrrian christians (who look very western are descended from assyrians-NOT arabs.Coptic christians are descende from ancient(civilised) egyptian-NOT arabs. Just compare their facial features to the positively simmian ones of arabs. You'll see they are worlds apart. You will also note (when you get around a bit) that their cultures and lifestyles are infinitely superior to those of the ar-apes.
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I think everyone here is being to nice to the muzzies. I don't think they should be used as concubines but rather as dog food. I am sure those heroic attack dogs defending the jews could have a few nice meals out of the muzzies. I am not sure I would want to do that to the dogs. In all seriousness, I don't think the muzzies will be around long once Chaim takes over.
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I think everyone here is being to nice to the muzzies. I don't think they should be used as concubines but rather as dog food. I am sure those heroic attack dogs defending the jews could have a few nice meals out of the muzzies. I am not sure I would want to do that to the dogs. In all seriousness, I don't think the muzzies will be around long once Chaim takes over.
The heroic attack dogs need a better diet than ground up muzzies. In all seriousness the muzzies are not much good for anything.
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Yeah, most of the sandshvartzas have AIDS and other infectious diseases which we wouldn't want the dogs to catch. We just need to rid ourselves of the Islamic problem.
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I wish I could be Chaim's defense minister when he takes power, but alas, I am a Gentile. :(
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Don't worry Chaimfan. Maybe one day we will be lucky enough to have you president of the us. You could then start a program paying shvartzas to get the hell out. There are opportunities for righteous people to take actuon here as well.
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Having sex with an arab is beastiality.
excuse me..having sex wtih a dog, horse, donkey etc...is beastiality.. Having sex with an Arab or any non Jew (that is if you are a Jew) is just wrong...Come on! What's wrong with all of you!
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Sex with arabs is bestiallity as they are sub-human. The only things arabs should be used for are target practice and fertiliser.
I think you should be used for fertilizer. Arabs aren't animals or beasts. This kind of talk is embarassing.
OH REALLY!!!!!!!
Switch on the TV, ask an Israeli, sit next to one on the bus without a nose plug. Talk to doctors who try to repair the mutilated genitals of young girls. Talk to some of the countless victims of arab on jew or arab on christian pack rapeand murder
Dianne Fossey's mountain gorillas are more human than these people. Wake up.
Doesn't excuse you from saying that they are fertilizer and target practice...we are better than the way we are talking about arabs...we don't need to sound like the Jewish Islamic Jihad version..not on this forum...
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No, having sex with an arab is much worse than having sex with a dog. Dogs are much cleaner, more sanitary animals than muzzies. Dogs are also intelligent and loyal which certainly can't be said about the muzzies. Having sex with a muslim is something that I refuse to think about. It is a true nighmare.
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Dannycookies, the muzzies won't stick up for you so don't stick up for them. Being kind to them won't help us. They need to be afraid.
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...............And what's more, ladies;
These dear little arabs have clearly and plainly expressed their unabiguous deire to murder every jew on the planet and then do the same to every non-moslem(that is ...all the ones they don't pack rape or enslave) Get it?? That means you, me, Chaim .......... everybody.
Please.....smell the coffee here. ???
Dude, I smell the coffee..but there is a classy way of expressing yourself here...I smell the coffee..it's very unpleasant. I am not happy that I have to hate muslims or anyone..but I know that i have to...and I"m not happy that there needs to be a war which requires killing a lot of people..but it's something that needs to be done. However, to call them target practice and fertilizer doesn't do any good for OUR cause. We have to be classy on this forum if we are going to have QUALITY members who can get on tv shows and spread the message.
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Dannycookies on the contrary, if we are classy we won't get anything done. We need to terrorize the enemy and remove them forcibly. The muzzies don't understand talking, we just need to start aiming our spotting scope at them.
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I'm a little leery to delve in considering this is the topic that once got me banned, but here goes...
A: I do NOT want anybody here to have relations with ANY Arab creatures in ANY shape or form. My only purpose in bringing it up before in the Gaza thread was to demonstrate the scriptural principle that G-d has no mercy on savage Nazi women, NOT that JTF members should all forcibly take Muslim Nazi whores as concubines!
B: The woman standing before the Lebanese flag is awfully hot (I really hope she doesn't have kids, for many reasons ;)), but would any of you have interest in her recalling that 11 months ago, she was dancing around in the streets in a hashish and khat-induced frenzy with green and yellow spraypainted hair?
C: I agree with Newman. The only thing Muslims are good for is fertilizer and plinking... oh, and I might throw in pig food as well. ;) :D
Actually I like the pig food idea :laugh:
but in all seriousness..once someone you hate is dead, according to Jewish law, you cannot desecrate their body. I get offended as a Jew and human being when people talk about burning people or using them as fertilizer or whatever even if it is Osama bin Ladin..and i'm talking about once they are dead, where they are hurting anyone or anything anymore.
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Where in Torah or Talmud is it that dead Nazis get the same treatment as dead Jews?
Somehow I really, really don't think that the dead Canaanite, Midianite, Jebusite, and Philistine Nazis received proper burials. :P
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No, having sex with an arab is much worse than having sex with a dog. Dogs are much cleaner, more sanitary animals than muzzies. Dogs are also intelligent and loyal which certainly can't be said about the muzzies. Having sex with a muslim is something that I refuse to think about. It is a true nighmare.
you know what, you can have sex with your dog, I'll have sex with the Arab woman if I had to choose...
I think I'm going to stop posting on this thread because it's not solving any situation.
And as i had posted earlier last week, this is the very gripe I have some people on this forum...I'm not advocating being nice to Muslims and Arabs..I'm advocating classy behavior which apparantly not many people here have.
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NO, PUTTING PIG ON THEIR BODIES POST MORTUM IS A WONDERFUL THING TO DO. IF THE SANDSHVARTZAS KNOW THAT PIG WILL BE SPLATTERED ALL OVER THEMSELVES WHEN THEY DIE, THEY WONT BLOW THEMSELVES UP. THIS WILL SAVE JEWISH LIVES. WE MUST DESECRATE THE BODIES OF ALL MUZZIES.
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I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT I DON'T ACT WITH CLASS TOWARDS OUR ENEMIES. I BELIEVE THAT EVERY MUSLIM DESERVES TO DIE JUST FOR FOLLOWING THE KORAN. IT IS A INSTRUCTION MANUAL FOR KILLING INFIDELS.
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Dannycookies, I think you are a way nice guy so don't get offended or anything. We are having a gentlemans disagreement. In any event, I am going to sleep now so have a good night everyone.
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Where in Torah or Talmud is it that dead Nazis get the same treatment as dead Jews?
Somehow I really, really don't think that the dead Canaanite, Midianite, Jebusite, and Philistine Nazis received proper burials. :P
when did i talk about a proper burial? mass graves sounds more like it...but burning their bodies goes against Torah. We were made in Gd's image..therefore the dead corpse shoudl be respected.
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No, having sex with an arab is much worse than having sex with a dog. Dogs are much cleaner, more sanitary animals than muzzies. Dogs are also intelligent and loyal which certainly can't be said about the muzzies. Having sex with a muslim is something that I refuse to think about. It is a true nighmare.
you know what, you can have sex with your dog, I'll have sex with the Arab woman if I had to choose...
I think I'm going to stop posting on this thread because it's not solving any situation.
And as i had posted earlier last week, this is the very gripe I have some people on this forum...I'm not advocating being nice to Muslims and Arabs..I'm advocating classy behavior which apparantly not many people here have.
Danny has a point.
Rabbi Kahane knew how to debate. He was smart. He realized that the facts were enough to condemn the enemy. Stupid insults are just that, stupid.
We should attack our enemies intelligently. The truth is enough.
This is not a battlefield. It is a forum. One must not confuse the two.
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NO, PUTTING PIG ON THEIR BODIES POST MORTUM IS A WONDERFUL THING TO DO. IF THE SANDSHVARTZAS KNOW THAT PIG WILL BE SPLATTERED ALL OVER THEMSELVES WHEN THEY DIE, THEY WONT BLOW THEMSELVES UP. THIS WILL SAVE JEWISH LIVES. WE MUST DESECRATE THE BODIES OF ALL MUZZIES.
Guess what, I agree with you! for the first time in this arguement.
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Gentlemen,
Don't let yourself become just another hate group.
You have to hate your enemy, but hate has to be constructive, that is serving a specific purpose.
We have goals. Becoming a satanist group is not of those.
Come now, if our enemies are satanic, does not mean you have to become one.
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Where in Torah or Talmud is it that dead Nazis get the same treatment as dead Jews?
Somehow I really, really don't think that the dead Canaanite, Midianite, Jebusite, and Philistine Nazis received proper burials. :P
when did i talk about a proper burial? mass graves sounds more like it...but burning their bodies goes against Torah. We were made in Gd's image..therefore the dead corpse shoudl be respected.
So you believe every person in our culture who is cremated can't enter heaven, or what?
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Where in Torah or Talmud is it that dead Nazis get the same treatment as dead Jews?
Somehow I really, really don't think that the dead Canaanite, Midianite, Jebusite, and Philistine Nazis received proper burials. :P
when did i talk about a proper burial? mass graves sounds more like it...but burning their bodies goes against Torah. We were made in Gd's image..therefore the dead corpse shoudl be respected.
The body of Eichmann the nazi was burnt in Israel and thehes dumped in the med sea.
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Where in Torah or Talmud is it that dead Nazis get the same treatment as dead Jews?
Somehow I really, really don't think that the dead Canaanite, Midianite, Jebusite, and Philistine Nazis received proper burials. :P
when did i talk about a proper burial? mass graves sounds more like it...but burning their bodies goes against Torah. We were made in Gd's image..therefore the dead corpse shoudl be respected.
So you believe every person in our culture who is cremated can't enter heaven, or what?
A man is created from soil, and to the soil he shall go back.
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That's why coffins are not permitted in Judaism.
The body has to integrate with soil.
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Here is the quote:
Bereshit - Genesis 3:19
"In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken; for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return."
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Where in Torah or Talmud is it that dead Nazis get the same treatment as dead Jews?
Somehow I really, really don't think that the dead Canaanite, Midianite, Jebusite, and Philistine Nazis received proper burials. :P
when did i talk about a proper burial? mass graves sounds more like it...but burning their bodies goes against Torah. We were made in Gd's image..therefore the dead corpse shoudl be respected.
So you believe every person in our culture who is cremated can't enter heaven, or what?
The only thing that I understand from a Jewish perspective is that the human body was made in Gd's image and shoudl be respected. So let's just say for example a regular person dies, you are not supposed to stare at it or talk about it in front of it. The reason why is that if a person were living it wouldnt' be nice to do those things and here you are staring a dead body and it can't stare back at you. when a Jew first dies, he needs to be cleansed in a bath called a mikva. The person who is doing the cleansing doesn't just dunk the body. He/she asks for permission, "Can I move your hand?, Can I dunk your head?" and etc. because wiht a living person you just forcefully do somethign to them, You ask for permission.
In jewish law, the body shoudl be buried as soon as possible..like the next day. The only exception is Shabbat. So what if that were the situation? Well, a dead person shoudl not be left alone, since it is written that man should not be alone. Therefore, a person is designated to be wtih the body in the coffin and pslams are read to it.
So it's rather fascinating the kind of respect Judaism even puts for a dead person...so wonderful and beautiful that we treat living and dead things with that type of dignity.
I know that in Christianity it's different. I can't impose a Jewish point of view on Christians because it's a totally different theology and you need to follow your rules the way your church teaches you to do it.
As far as creamation...i dont' know if one goes to hell or heaven for doing it or not doing it. Popular jewish belief is that at the time of the messiah, the dead bodies will be resurrected..but guess what? if they are creamated,well, that just sucks..you don't get resurrected...personally, I'm not sure if that is right or wrong..dont' know the whole rabbinical arguement.
however, I do know that according to Jewish law, one is not supposed to get creamated. Some rabbis argue that one shoudl not donate body parts for future transplants...I personally disagree wtih them..because if you donate a body part to save another one's life which will in essence save billions of lives (that person you saved will save his offspring and their offspring)...and that's a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge mitzva if you can in your death save that many lives..HUUUUUUUUUGE!
come to think of it, it woudl make a good ask JTF question for Chaim on whether when he dies he would ever donate any of his organs to save future Jewish and righteous gentile lives...
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That's why coffins are not permitted in Judaism.
The body has to integrate with soil.
You can use pine because that does get integrated.
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That's why coffins are not permitted in Judaism.
The body has to integrate with soil.
You can use pine because that does get integrated.
That's a western invention. The correct way is the original way.
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Do Jews believe postmortem organ donation or the donation of one's body to science is forbidden?
I'm not trying to be petty and perpetuate a debate--just legitimately wondering. I truly find it fascinating that we come to such differing conclusions on what appears to be such a mundane, normal aspect of life using the same scriptures.
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Do Jews believe postmortem organ donation or the donation of one's body to science is forbidden?
I'm not trying to be petty and perpetuate a debate--just legitimately wondering. I truly find it fascinating that we come to such differing conclusions on what appears to be such a mundane, normal aspect of life using the same scriptures.
As far as I know, and I don't know much, G-d made us mortal, and only He determines the time and circumstances of one's death.
Cloning, organ transplantation are magnificent tools of medicine, but they are surely in violation of the world's harmony.