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Title: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on December 03, 2011, 11:15:50 AM
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Title: Re: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: mord on December 03, 2011, 11:31:47 AM
Yes you can carry a knife i do, but i also carry a Glock or Beretta
Title: Re: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on December 03, 2011, 11:40:57 AM
I mean carrying it outside, not merely owning it. And are all types of knives legal to carry (I've heard that the types of Balisong aren't)?
Title: Re: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: briann on December 03, 2011, 12:19:20 PM
The laws vary from state to state.   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_legislation#United_States_of_America

Each American state also has laws that govern the legality of carrying weapons, either concealed or openly, and these laws explicitly or implicitly cover various types of knives. Some states go beyond this, and criminalize mere possession of certain types of knives. Other states prohibit the possession and/or the concealed carrying of knives that feature blade styles or features sufficient to transform them into "dangerous weapons"[71][72] or "deadly weapons", i.e. knives either optimized for lethality against humans or designed for and readily capable of causing death or serious bodily injury.[71][73] These frequently include knives with specific blade styles with a historical connection to violence or assassination, including thrusting knives such as the dirk, poignard, and stiletto, and double-edged knives with crossguards designed for knife fighting such as the dagger.[71][74] Some states make the carrying or possession of any dangerous or deadly weapon with intent to unlawfully harm another a crime.[71]
In states like Alabama,[75] Mississippi,[76] New Mexico,[77][78] Texas,[71] and Virginia,[71] the carrying on one's person of large and lengthy fighting knives capable of causing grievous wounds such as the Bowie Knife[79] is prohibited by statute,[71][80] originally in the interest of controlling or eliminating the then-common practice of "dueling", a term which had degenerated from a rarely-used social custom into a generalized description for any knife or gun fight between two contestants.[74][81] In many jurisdictions a local tradition of using knives to settle differences or for self-defense[74][82] resulted in the enactment of statutes that restricted the size and length of the knife and particularly, the length of its blade.[74]
Title: Re: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: White Israelite on December 03, 2011, 03:00:13 PM
You can have a knife in the US in most states, most of the laws state the blade can't be longer than 3 inches for carry purposes. You can pretty much use any size knife for hunting or fishing from my understanding, I have a 7 inch Kabar.
Title: Re: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: Dr. Dan on December 03, 2011, 05:04:06 PM
Depends on the knife.
Title: Re: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on December 03, 2011, 08:22:22 PM
You mean you want to walk around swinging a knife all over?
I would give you plenty of space if you walk by.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnefrZndomI
Title: Re: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: Rubystars on December 03, 2011, 09:08:50 PM
I thought you said you weren't going to travel outside of Israel
Title: Re: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on December 05, 2011, 07:31:37 PM
I thought you said you weren't going to travel outside of Israel

I wanted to know if carrying knives outside is legal in America since in Israel it's not. Just to show the Jews in what kind of a totalitarian North Korea-style state we live in.
Title: Re: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on December 05, 2011, 08:18:13 PM
I guarantee you that if you walk around with a knife in America you're going to get stopped and probably arrested.
Title: Re: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: Rubystars on December 05, 2011, 08:22:21 PM
I wanted to know if carrying knives outside is legal in America since in Israel it's not. Just to show the Jews in what kind of a totalitarian North Korea-style state we live in.

I don't think anything bad would happen if you had a hidden pocket knife but you can't carry around a big steak knife.
Title: Re: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on December 05, 2011, 08:29:02 PM
You're only saying that because you have never stabbed anyone and never had the police blame you for the fight and say that you planned the attack. Not that I had, of course. Everyone knows I'm law abiding.
Title: Re: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: Rubystars on December 05, 2011, 08:31:58 PM
You're only saying that because you have never stabbed anyone and never had the police blame you for the fight and say that you planned the attack. Not that I had, of course. Everyone knows I'm law abiding.

I meant in the USA, but if you actually had to stab someone with it, you might face the same issues here.
Title: Re: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on December 05, 2011, 08:34:12 PM
Even if there were witnesses who said that you did it in self-defense?
Title: Re: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: Rubystars on December 05, 2011, 08:35:41 PM
Even if there were witnesses that you did it in self-defense?

That would help a lot. It depends on the details though and where it happened. You might have a harder time in a more liberal area than you would in a more redneck type of area.
Title: Re: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on December 05, 2011, 08:38:28 PM
In Israel you can be jailed for even stabbing someone who shot you in the leg
Title: Re: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: cjd on December 05, 2011, 08:39:24 PM
I don't think anything bad would happen if you had a hidden pocket knife but you can't carry around a big steak knife.
Actually once a knife passes as certain size it would be better if it was visible instead of being concealed...Certain type blades such as switch or drop blade knives are problematic... I think here in New York if the knife is hanging from a belt and is visible it might pass muster with the police.
Title: Re: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: Rubystars on December 05, 2011, 08:41:06 PM
In Israel you can be jailed for even killing someone who shot you in the leg

Well you probably would be arrested if that happened here but you probably wouldn't go to prison if there were witnesses that could testify you were doing it in self defense. There are a lot of factors though like if your attacker is black (good chance of that) or an illegal immigrant there might be more sympathy for them and they could claim you shouted a racial epithet at them. That can really complicate things. I don't know if you look white or not but if you do then things would be harder on you.

edit: I mean the people who were their friends could claim you shouted an epithet at them, obviously if you killed them they couldn't do it themselves  :laugh:
Title: Re: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on December 05, 2011, 08:42:27 PM
I'm whiter than you are
Title: Re: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: Rubystars on December 05, 2011, 08:44:07 PM
I'm whiter than you are

lol Ok
Title: Re: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on December 05, 2011, 09:54:36 PM
I guarantee you that if you walk around with a knife in America you're going to get stopped and probably arrested.

Absolutely.
Title: Re: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: heyuguys on December 05, 2011, 10:02:09 PM
this might happen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToL9e6vrrKI
Title: Re: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: Rubystars on December 06, 2011, 07:20:35 AM
Problem solved ice cream time!  :::D
Title: Re: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: briann on December 06, 2011, 02:10:01 PM
Actually once a knife passes as certain size it would be better if it was visible instead of being concealed...Certain type blades such as switch or drop blade knives are problematic... I think here in New York if the knife is hanging from a belt and is visible it might pass muster with the police.

I believe that switch blades are the only knives that are federally regulated.... at least as far as selling them.
Title: Re: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on December 06, 2011, 02:53:05 PM
You can always carry a baseball bat either in your hands or in your car (if you have a car). Or get a hold of some sharp objects like screw drivers and no one (copos) can do anything to you.
Title: Re: Is being outside with a knife (for self-defense purposes) legal in the U.S?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on December 06, 2011, 03:32:49 PM
I believe that switch blades are the only knives that are federally regulated.... at least as far as selling them.
I did not know that there are federal laws on switchblades. I thought that simply all states except Florida chose to outlaw them on their own. But that was many years ago and a lot could have changed.