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Torah and Jewish Idea => Torah and Jewish Idea => Topic started by: Dan Ben Noah on January 27, 2012, 07:41:30 PM

Title: Shalom
Post by: Dan Ben Noah on January 27, 2012, 07:41:30 PM

Shalom

Title: Re: Some Orthodox Jewish activists are wanting to ordain women as rabbis
Post by: Zelhar on January 28, 2012, 10:28:10 AM

It's not up to me to decide but I am in favor of ordaining women as rabbis.

I know that in eastern Europe, especially in Austohungarian empire, in many families, the women were the ones who held the tradition and kept Judaism alive. Not that they were rabbis, but they made sure the shabbat and holidays are observed and the children sent to heder. The men tended to be more secular.

Title: Re: Some Orthodox Jewish activists are wanting to ordain women as rabbis
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on January 28, 2012, 10:29:57 PM

Their are already problems with many men as Rabbis we don't need more problems to come.

Title: Re: Some Orthodox Jewish activists are wanting to ordain women as rabbis
Post by: muman613 on January 29, 2012, 12:07:58 AM

My response is No... I will explain it later...

Title: Re: Some Orthodox Jewish activists are wanting to ordain women as rabbis
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on January 29, 2012, 11:08:55 AM

Women can certainly teach, and there were some outstanding women in eastern europe who did indeed teach jewish children, but halacha does not permit them to be a rabbi.    So there has to be a way to allow their roles in society to evolve naturally without making them into a female version of a man.   The "activists" are extreme liberals who want to satisfy the feminist urges of some women and feel its their 'duty' to do so because of how devoted they are to liberal causes and because they are extremely PC.  IMO
An example of the activist phenomenon - Rabbi Avi Weiss. 

It is almost as if some of these rabbis have an inferiority complex or they think that we need to do anything any individual women demand because we are at fault and have harmed women and owe it to them to give them anything any of them want as a compensation - all of which is not true.

Title: Re: Some Orthodox Jewish activists are wanting to ordain women as rabbis
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on January 29, 2012, 08:30:13 PM

From Rav Bar Hayim (from another response, I just bumped into this)

8. I similarly question whether those who feel that the question of granting 's'mikha' to women is the most burning issue that the Jewish people must grapple with today have their heads screwed on straight. (I am not here expressing an opinion on the matter. I am drawing attention to what I consider to be misplaced priorities.) Both are examples of adopting an agenda from without the framework of Tora, from external society, and placing it on a pedestal. I cannot help but feel that something about these positions is not quite right.
 
http://machonshilo.org/en/eng/list-ask-the-rav/31-general/526-vegetarianism

Title: Re: Some Orthodox Jewish activists are wanting to ordain women as rabbis
Post by: Lisa on January 29, 2012, 09:24:19 PM

When I think of a rabbi, I think of an old man with gray beard.