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Title: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: mord on June 21, 2007, 11:04:02 AM
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3415870,00.html
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: Shlomo on June 21, 2007, 11:39:38 AM
I thought I would post the article here:

Shas MK proposes 'rehab centers' for gays
Amnon Meranda
Published: 06.21.07, 15:14 / Israel News

Nissim Ze'ev suggests establishing 'rehabilitation centers' to suppress sexual tendencies of homosexuals, lesbians. ‘These people are dangerous and we must keep an eye on them,’ he says

Shas Knesset Member Nissim Ze'ev on Thursday proposed establishing "rehabilitation centers" to suppress the sexual tendencies of gay people.

“The government should initiate this; these people are dangerous and we must keep an eye on them,” he said as the High Court discussed whether to cancel the Jerusalem gay pride parade due to the firefighters' slow-down strike. “If such a center is built, many of them will flock to it in order to help themselves.

“I am not speaking of a closed institution, but of a center that will accept anyone who walks through its doors,” the MK continued. “We must set up special teams of psychologists, psychiatrists and social workers who will help them return to a normal life, just like in a drug rehabilitation center.”

Ze'ev added that gay people must be made aware of “how their lifestyle is destroying our existence”.

“We propose numerous bills to help barren women become more fertile, but on the other hand we allow this immorality," he said.

'No one harmed their rights'

Apart from the suggestion to set up the "rehabilitation centers", Ze'ev said he would submit a bill that would ban gay sexual relations if he thought the Knesset would approve it.

According to him, those who would break the law would be obligated to a two-year “rehabilitation period”.

MK Ze'ev dismissed claims by gay groups that the parade was part of their campaign to secure equal civil rights to gays in Israel.

"There exists an aim to enlarge this community… They do not want to protect the rights of a minority. No one harmed their rights … No one told them to get out of the closet or get in it," he said.

Sa'ar Netanel, a member of Jerusalem's Council and the Open House organization, responded to Zeev's comments by saying that, "What we need is institutions to detoxify him and his ilk from their bigotry and ignorance."
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: Dr. Dan on June 21, 2007, 11:47:52 AM
I thought I would post the article here:

Shas MK proposes 'rehab centers' for gays
Amnon Meranda
Published: 06.21.07, 15:14 / Israel News

Nissim Ze'ev suggests establishing 'rehabilitation centers' to suppress sexual tendencies of homosexuals, lesbians. ‘These people are dangerous and we must keep an eye on them,’ he says

Shas Knesset Member Nissim Ze'ev on Thursday proposed establishing "rehabilitation centers" to suppress the sexual tendencies of gay people.

“The government should initiate this; these people are dangerous and we must keep an eye on them,” he said as the High Court discussed whether to cancel the Jerusalem gay pride parade due to the firefighters' slow-down strike. “If such a center is built, many of them will flock to it in order to help themselves.

“I am not speaking of a closed institution, but of a center that will accept anyone who walks through its doors,” the MK continued. “We must set up special teams of psychologists, psychiatrists and social workers who will help them return to a normal life, just like in a drug rehabilitation center.”

Ze'ev added that gay people must be made aware of “how their lifestyle is destroying our existence”.

“We propose numerous bills to help barren women become more fertile, but on the other hand we allow this immorality," he said.

'No one harmed their rights'

Apart from the suggestion to set up the "rehabilitation centers", Ze'ev said he would submit a bill that would ban gay sexual relations if he thought the Knesset would approve it.

According to him, those who would break the law would be obligated to a two-year “rehabilitation period”.

MK Ze'ev dismissed claims by gay groups that the parade was part of their campaign to secure equal civil rights to gays in Israel.

"There exists an aim to enlarge this community… They do not want to protect the rights of a minority. No one harmed their rights … No one told them to get out of the closet or get in it," he said.

Sa'ar Netanel, a member of Jerusalem's Council and the Open House organization, responded to Zeev's comments by saying that, "What we need is institutions to detoxify him and his ilk from their bigotry and ignorance."

Good luck to that! Reminds me of a funny South Park episode.
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: DownwithIslam on June 21, 2007, 01:32:16 PM
If Shas doesn't stop screwing Israel, there will not be a country for the straight Jews to live in. Sure I hate gays and want gay relations banned but Shas needs to get their priorities in order. If on the same day they threw Chaim out of Israel, they met with Arafat then I don't trust a word they say.
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on June 22, 2007, 02:54:14 AM
What a sick joke. Most Shas leaders ARE queers. How then can they preach about curing other fairies?
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on June 22, 2007, 03:07:20 AM
How so? How are they on our side on moral issues? The party OFFICIALLY TEACHES that Arafat is a man of peace and that Shimon Peres is a friend of Torah Judaism.

At the very least, Shas is a crack-smoking party.
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on June 22, 2007, 03:11:41 AM
No, he asked that we stopped making personal attacks on Shas rabbis.

He has dissed Shas quite liberally in many recent Ask JTF shows.
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on June 22, 2007, 03:12:23 AM
They support us on issues of Sabbath observance, kosher laws, and sexual morality.
So do Satmar "rabbis".
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: newman on June 22, 2007, 03:32:58 AM
They support us on issues of Sabbath observance, kosher laws, and sexual morality.

Chaim asked you not to diss Shas anymore.


so does neturei kata! Gotta agree with CF here.Merely being orthodox doesn't give them a blank cheque to destroy Israel and kiss it's enemies.
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: mord on June 22, 2007, 07:33:58 AM
Shas collabarates with olmert ,sharon,and all other leftists.Shouldi have reaspect for leftist melchior the Rabbi from Denmmark
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: newman on June 22, 2007, 07:40:16 AM
Zionism has enough n_ggers in the wood pile. What happened to courage and principle?....Oh yeah that's right, it's the knesset we're talking about.
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: judeanoncapta on June 22, 2007, 10:16:41 AM
Cure Gays?

The Torah prescribes a cure.

It's called 'stoning them until they are dead'.

There is no other cure.
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: Dominater96 on June 22, 2007, 10:17:33 AM
They support us on issues of Sabbath observance, kosher laws, and sexual morality.
So do Satmar "rabbis".
So what sre you saying Satmar are bad?
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on June 22, 2007, 07:21:29 PM
You don't think they are? Chaim says Satmar and its spinoff NK are evil. However, I didn't need for him to tell me they are. Look at their fruits.
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: DownwithIslam on June 22, 2007, 10:13:42 PM
Shas is not on our side on anything. I don't care if they keep shabbbos. Screw them. They threw Chaim out of Israel on the same day that they met with Arafat. They are the most vial scum of the earth and Ehud Smolmert would not be prime minister if not for them. Shas is way less principled than even meretz. Meretz thinks Olmert is too right wing so they will never join his coalition. Shas are lying pieces of sh$%
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: DownwithIslam on June 22, 2007, 10:14:37 PM
Shas are actual murderers which is the worst sin on earth. They enabled the Gush Katif surrender. I hope nobody on this forum sympathizes with them.
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: RationalThought110 on June 22, 2007, 10:22:25 PM
I saw a segment on CNN a couple months ago about rehabilitation programs for gays and lesbians who want to abandon that type of behavior.  The programs claimed to have had some success stories.  So it seems like a good idea.
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on June 22, 2007, 10:38:53 PM
Down, I agree with you 110%. And I think Shas kapos are far more dangerous to innocent Jews worldwide than faggots.
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: RationalThought110 on June 22, 2007, 11:03:40 PM
Shas is not on our side on anything. I don't care if they keep shabbbos. Screw them. They threw Chaim out of Israel on the same day that they met with Arafat. They are the most vial scum of the earth and Ehud Smolmert would not be prime minister if not for them. Shas is way less principled than even meretz. Meretz thinks Olmert is too right wing so they will never join his coalition. Shas are lying pieces of sh$%

So they claim to be more conservative than Likud but are just as bad as labor, kadima and likud?
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: DownwithIslam on June 22, 2007, 11:43:43 PM
They do not claim to be conservative. They are only out to shove a few shekels into their big Rabbi's pockets.
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: TheCoon on June 23, 2007, 08:22:46 AM
Of all the mortal dangers facing Israel, Shas focuses on homosexuals.  ::)
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: ScotcH on June 23, 2007, 09:32:47 AM
Homos are TERRORISTS ... It Truly Terrorizes me whenever I see Two FudgePACKERS Lockin Lips !!!  :-* :-*  :o
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on June 23, 2007, 12:22:53 PM
Homos are TERRORISTS ... It Truly Terrorizes me whenever I see Two FudgePACKERS Lockin Lips !!!  :-* :-*  :o
You do have a point. Some of the fag groups such as Act Up and Queer Nation are terroristic.
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: newman on June 23, 2007, 12:47:56 PM
shas are copping a right bollocking from Avi Mechanic on Israel National Radio.
http://www.israelnationalradio.com/

Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: TheCoon on June 23, 2007, 12:58:24 PM
You gotta be kidding me. Muslim terrorists are launching rockets into Sderot and plotting to build nukes and Shas is worrying about homosexuals. Shas' desire to change the target of Israel's concern to homosexuals is a clear sign they're out of touch with reality and need to be disregarded as phonies.
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on June 23, 2007, 05:47:37 PM
I agree with you there. But it is a desecration beyond words that these fruits are given free reign to defile the streets of the holiest city on earth.

If I had my way they would be institutionalized for life.
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on June 23, 2007, 11:57:23 PM
How so? How are they on our side on moral issues? The party OFFICIALLY TEACHES that Arafat is a man of peace and that Shimon Peres is a friend of Torah Judaism.

At the very least, Shas is a crack-smoking party.

its becuase of people like you claiming to be Kahanists that Rav Kahane's movement was terribly looked down upon. You should just shut up and stop talking out of your [censored]. You should know that making Tishuva for disrespecting a Torah scolar is a very very hard process, so you should just stay quiet and not show your desrespect and hate towards Talmide Chachamim.
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on June 24, 2007, 03:16:51 AM
You are the one who needs to calm down, brother. Show me where I disparaged Torah scholars. I attacked Shas as a party, and everybody else does here as well.
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: RationalThought110 on June 24, 2007, 07:56:06 AM
Someone explain what Shas are.
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on June 24, 2007, 10:46:53 AM
I dont get it, Shas is trying to do something good and even then some people here still have to bash them?
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: mord on June 24, 2007, 10:56:52 AM
The reason people are bashing them is because they are for disengagement,take care of the gays later
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on June 24, 2007, 11:38:26 AM
The reason people are bashing them is because they are for disengagement,take care of the gays later

 the arab problem isnt necessarily the #1 problem. yes fighting the gays in particular and Western culture and influence in general would probably be a bigger challenge for the people of Israel. Shas represents being anti-western thinking and alien philosophies and ideologies, I just disagree with them in that they didnt fight enough against arabs, but their fight against gay sht is totally justified and necessary.   
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on June 24, 2007, 11:54:40 AM
Tzvi, are you Dominater96 under a different screenname?
Title: Re: Shas has idea to control gays
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on June 24, 2007, 12:11:29 PM
Tzvi, are you Dominater96 under a different screenname?

no.