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Title: santorum should join jtf
Post by: Dr. Dan on March 16, 2012, 08:28:42 AM
He also agrees with us to make porn illegal!  I think he's been watching jtf videos.
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: Rubystars on March 16, 2012, 09:06:18 AM
Honestly if he's going to do something like that it's better if he waits until after the primaries are over and he doesn't get the nomination, or if he does get the nomination to wait until after he's either president or loses the presidential election. You know what the right wing media would say if Santorum was linked to a "terrorism supporting hate group" like they would try to portray JTF (of course we're not that at all, but the mass media would trust the ADL and SPLC over our word).
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: HiWarp on March 16, 2012, 11:15:57 AM
He also agrees with us to make porn illegal!  I think he's been watching jtf videos.

And exactly where would the president get the authority to do that at the federal level?
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: Zelhar on March 16, 2012, 11:19:15 AM
But I want porn to be legal.
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: briann on March 16, 2012, 12:19:53 PM
While I do think alot of it is degrading, etc, I don't want our government banning it.  It's a slippery slope.




Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: The Noachide on March 16, 2012, 12:23:01 PM
I watch porn often admittedly..
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on March 16, 2012, 12:34:44 PM
 :laugh:
But I want porn to be legal.
:::D
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: Dr. Dan on March 16, 2012, 03:25:25 PM
I watch porn often admittedly..

Well, you should try not to...

btw, I was also getting a little tongue and cheek about him joining JTF.

The reality is this.  Right wing conservatives need to be smarter than Santorum. I admire him for his outspokenness on things that most Americans find to be normal and possibly soothing.  Except, at drastic times like now where we need to remove Obama from office, I would prefer the guy running against him be acceptable to the masses...AND THEN later on discuss banning things which are bad for us, such as hardcore porn.
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: muman613 on March 16, 2012, 03:40:03 PM
I watch porn often admittedly..

This is not good...


For a Jewish neshama Porn is one of the ultimate destroyers... There is much written about guarding the eyes from viewing this kind of thing...

http://guardyoureyes.com/index.php?Itemid=150

http://guardyoureyes.com/index.php
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: BritishSword on March 16, 2012, 03:43:40 PM
@ entire thread.
 ;D

 :laugh:

 :::D
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on March 16, 2012, 04:06:01 PM
While I do think alot of it is degrading, etc, I don't want our government banning it.  It's a slippery slope.

I agree with everything you have just said.
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: muman613 on March 16, 2012, 04:38:08 PM
I agree with everything you have just said.

So sexual immorality should be left up to the individual? Why then should we be concerned with prostitution and other 'victimless crimes'?

Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: Zelhar on March 16, 2012, 04:50:47 PM
So sexual immorality should be left up to the individual? Why then should we be concerned with prostitution and other 'victimless crimes'?
Yes it should be up for the individual and kept away from public view or intervention. Just like you shouldn't intervene in what or who a person is doing within the confines of his home.
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: Secularbeliever on March 16, 2012, 06:31:23 PM
So sexual immorality should be left up to the individual? Why then should we be concerned with prostitution and other 'victimless crimes'?

While I don't advocate that anyone engage in it, I would favor legalized prostitution and gambling.  If both parties are truly willing it is a victimless crime.
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: jbeige on March 16, 2012, 06:45:58 PM
This is funny  :::D
99% of the guys on here probably have bought or looked at porn and enjoyed it at some point in their lives.
Lets make porn, birth control, Swim suit ads, Mannequins, Bananas, Peaches, etc. Illegal.
Do you know how much the sex crimes would go up by making porn illegal?
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: briann on March 16, 2012, 06:57:18 PM
This is funny  :::D
99% of the guys on here probably have bought or looked at porn and enjoyed it at some point in their lives.
Lets make porn, birth control, Swim suit ads, Mannequins, Bananas, Peaches, etc. Illegal.
Do you know how much the sex crimes would go up by making porn illegal?

Before you generalize us, you will notice that only a couple of the members here believe porn should not be legal.    We don't all share the same opinions about everything.
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: Lisa on March 16, 2012, 06:58:15 PM
I watch porn often admittedly..

Too much information.
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: Former Reformed Jew on March 16, 2012, 06:59:48 PM
I do not want porn to be illegal. I think it has a good effect in that many sexually repressed individuals watch it and if they did not have it, they would be rapists, molesters, purveyors of prostitution, etc.  Of course, I don't mean child porn or beastiality.  I don't mind homo-porn if that's your thing because it is a release valve, also.  and would ward off abuse.  Of course, I mean CONSULTING ADULT, and NOT sado-masochistic porn, etc.  It would be nice to have porn legal and nobody watch it and have it go out of business because nobody gave a damn about it.
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: muman613 on March 16, 2012, 07:19:31 PM
I do not want porn to be illegal. I think it has a good effect in that many sexually repressed individuals watch it and if they did not have it, they would be rapists, molesters, purveyors of prostitution, etc.  Of course, I don't mean child porn or beastiality.  I don't mind homo-porn if that's your thing because it is a release valve, also.  and would ward off abuse.  Of course, I mean CONSULTING ADULT, and NOT sado-masochistic porn, etc.  It would be nice to have porn legal and nobody watch it and have it go out of business because nobody gave a damn about it.

I think it should be illegal unless medically mandated... Just like medical MJ...

Human beings have the ability to control their impulses.  Animals are unable to control these base impulses. A Jew should aspire to be more than a rank animal...

Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: The Noachide on March 16, 2012, 07:32:28 PM
Too much information.

Ahem.. sorry  :)
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on March 16, 2012, 07:39:33 PM
  Noachide, I hope your not embarrassed! And I have no right to criticize anyone, beings I was associated with some pretty bad stuff when I was younger and I even hung out in strip clubs. But you have accepted Hashem as your G-d, and this type of thing only slows your progress. Plus I believe it would be against one of the Noachide laws.
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: briann on March 16, 2012, 07:41:20 PM
I think it should be illegal unless medically mandated... Just like medical MJ...

Human beings have the ability to control their impulses.  Animals are unable to control these base impulses. A Jew should aspire to be more than a rank animal...

I think a human being DOES have the ability to control his/her impulses.  But the idea that a government should do it for us is scarey and borderline fascist. 

A government is there to protect our rights from being infringed, not for telling us what we should do in the privacy of our home.  If someone behaves immorally... assuming that act doesnt infringe upon someone else's rights... that person will be judged elsewhere, not from the government.
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: The Noachide on March 16, 2012, 07:47:58 PM
+1 Ephraim and muman613
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on March 16, 2012, 07:51:55 PM
I do not want porn to be illegal. I think it has a good effect in that many sexually repressed individuals watch it and if they did not have it, they would be rapists, molesters, purveyors of prostitution, etc.  Of course, I don't mean child porn or beastiality.  I don't mind homo-porn if that's your thing because it is a release valve, also.  and would ward off abuse.  Of course, I mean CONSULTING ADULT, and NOT sado-masochistic porn, etc.  It would be nice to have porn legal and nobody watch it and have it go out of business because nobody gave a damn about it.
Porn is not the answer! These people {rapists, molesters}who do these evil acts should be locked up forever with their genitals removed, or fried!

P.S. The government has no right to tell the people how to live! But if your a moral person you should follow the law of G-d
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: briann on March 16, 2012, 07:54:46 PM
Porn is not the answer! These people who do these evil acts should be locked up forever with their genitals removed, or fried!

P.S. The government has no right to tell the people how to live! But if your a moral person you should follow the law of G-d

Well, I agree with your second statement.  :::D
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: muman613 on March 16, 2012, 08:02:10 PM
I agree that at this time it would be wrong to allow a 'democratically elected' government impose moral laws. But I stand against the pornography industry {which is what it is} which has no concern for the damage it does to the spiritual strength of the people. I myself have had problems with this in the past and know that it is bad for the soul. Many people struggle for many years with this and it would be best if the temptation was removed.

I have cut out much of this kind of input by avoiding watching television... I am currently entertaining myself by watching old clips of 60s-70s television {such as Get Smart and Mork and Mindy} which seem so pure to me compared to the programming which is pushed today...
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on March 16, 2012, 08:06:24 PM
Well, I agree with your second statement.  :::D
Not people looking at porn, the ones raping etc.
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on March 16, 2012, 08:09:02 PM
I actually think we ought to just heavily tax the porn industry.
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: USAReturn2GodNow1776 on March 16, 2012, 08:10:39 PM
I agree with Briann mostly. Though I would like to see the creation of homeowners associations which have covenants based upon the consensus of the residents that restrict the behavior of those who choose to live there. Among the laws in the covenant could be anti-pornography laws. The homeowners association would provide enough value to people who would normally view pornography that they would choose to live there despite having to give up porn to do so, thus saving weak souls by appealing to their other desires. This would be much better than having a government which claims half the continent pass a set of restrictive one-size-fits-all laws for 300 million people or having a state government restrict the behavior of millions of people, etc.
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: The Noachide on March 16, 2012, 08:22:04 PM
Huge concern is explicit content has risen in this modern time as I look back from the 80s. Children are easily capable obtaining these immoral media from hollywood movies. For the sake of the future, children should not endure it.
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: Former Reformed Jew on March 16, 2012, 08:24:38 PM
I actually think we ought to just heavily tax the porn industry.
It would drive it into the hands of the mafia and other underworld crime syndicates as in prohibition.  We would play right into their hands.
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: briann on March 16, 2012, 08:27:20 PM
I agree that at this time it would be wrong to allow a 'democratically elected' government impose moral laws. But I stand against the pornography industry {which is what it is} which has no concern for the damage it does to the spiritual strength of the people. I myself have had problems with this in the past and know that it is bad for the soul. Many people struggle for many years with this and it would be best if the temptation was removed.

I have cut out much of this kind of input by avoiding watching television... I am currently entertaining myself by watching old clips of 60s-70s television {such as Get Smart and Mork and Mindy} which seem so pure to me compared to the programming which is pushed today...

Funny, I was just considering watching reruns of Mork And Mindy.
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on March 16, 2012, 08:30:50 PM
Nanu nanu!
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on March 16, 2012, 10:32:11 PM
Don't you shoot out lots of energy when jacking off? I think all sexual offenders should be given all the magazines and videos they want.

The right thing to do to sexual offenders instead of throwing them in jail is: cut it off. But since we don't do what's right in our society then just give them some magazines.

I do feel that XXX porn is really gross.

Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on March 16, 2012, 10:57:13 PM
Don't you shoot out lots of energy when jacking off?
You may already know this being from China,but yes! It effects your chi! And is not recommend before combat!
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: jbeige on March 16, 2012, 11:03:04 PM
I don't want to use porn, but I need it for medical reasons.
My doctor said I had a choice, either use medical marijuana or medical porn so I said give me the porn.
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on March 16, 2012, 11:14:16 PM
I don't want to use porn, but I need it for medical reasons.
My doctor said I had a choice, either use medical marijuana or medical porn so I said give me the porn.
Do you do anything other than start problems?
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on March 16, 2012, 11:24:32 PM
Hey aCK! I have some old Shaolin herbal prescriptions if you ever want them. For flesh bruising, bone bruising, broken bones, and many more! But you have to go to a China Town to get them filled!
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: jbeige on March 16, 2012, 11:45:23 PM
Do you do anything other than start problems?
No that's what I'm here for.
Just like porn if you don't like it don't look.
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on March 17, 2012, 12:09:59 AM
  I won't look the other way! What about the poor girls that are abused everyday from this industry? Do you ever sit think what happened to these girl that made them act this way? Do you want your own little girls acting this way?

P.S. I don't like you! And you are a sickness on the conservative movement
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: Dr. Dan on March 17, 2012, 12:12:28 AM
I do not want porn to be illegal. I think it has a good effect in that many sexually repressed individuals watch it and if they did not have it, they would be rapists, molesters, purveyors of prostitution, etc.  Of course, I don't mean child porn or beastiality.  I don't mind homo-porn if that's your thing because it is a release valve, also.  and would ward off abuse.  Of course, I mean CONSULTING ADULT, and NOT sado-masochistic porn, etc.  It would be nice to have porn legal and nobody watch it and have it go out of business because nobody gave a damn about it.

The last line us the smartest thing you ever said on the forum.
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: cjd on March 17, 2012, 04:43:20 AM
I don't want to use porn, but I need it for medical reasons.
My doctor said I had a choice, either use medical marijuana or medical porn so I said give me the porn.
You must live out in California  :::D  It seems in California as long as it's doctor prescribed your good to go  :o
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: cjd on March 17, 2012, 05:07:07 AM
I think it should be illegal unless medically mandated... Just like medical MJ...

Human beings have the ability to control their impulses.  Animals are unable to control these base impulses. A Jew should aspire to be more than a rank animal...
Where does the list of medically treated social disorders end?  :::D People should be able to come into contact with things like porn or prostitution and not let it get the best of them...  Years back there was always a large amount of magazines and pin up pictures  laying around the place where I worked...  People would look through them now and then when they had free time and toss them back where they were... Why do people make such a big deal out of stuff like this... The people who go out and rape other adults or molest children did not get the idea to do stuff like that from looking at porn...
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: cjd on March 17, 2012, 05:41:17 AM
He also agrees with us to make porn illegal!  I think he's been watching jtf videos.
It's one thing for a religious based organization like JTF to hold the opinion that porn should be made illegal however its political cancer for someone running for president to spout off opinion like that... Personally I don't want the government regulating everything under the sun and whats more a good part of the American people don't want it either... Where do laws and policy like this start and end...  In the past few weeks Santorum has made some large scale political blunders that make him totally unelectable in the general election... Most mainstream conservatives do not want a presidential candidate that favors  nanny state policies...  America has a diverse population who's people have a wide range of acceptance of what's right and wrong... While a good part of the population will always agree that some thing's are just plain unacceptable a vast majority will pick and choose from the list of lesser vises... A presidential candidate who takes a hard line approach to social issues may win a battle or two but in the end loose the war...
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: Lisa on March 17, 2012, 11:35:09 AM
Don't you shoot out lots of energy when jacking off? I think all sexual offenders should be given all the magazines and videos they want.

The right thing to do to sexual offenders instead of throwing them in jail is: cut it off. But since we don't do what's right in our society then just give them some magazines.

I do feel that XXX porn is really gross.

Please let's not go there. 
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on March 17, 2012, 02:28:20 PM
I don't want to use porn, but I need it for medical reasons.
My doctor said I had a choice, either use medical marijuana or medical porn so I said give me the porn.

But then you won't have enough juice left for impregnating all those Mormon women.
And you'll be denied your promised planet to rule.
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: Zelhar on March 17, 2012, 03:51:21 PM
I believe resisting temptation is the right thing, while eliminating by central authority potential sources or temptation is the wrong thing, for all parties involved.
Title: Re: santorum should join jtf
Post by: jbeige on March 24, 2012, 11:13:34 AM
Scumtorum should join the forum so he can tell you that obammy who wants Israel destroyed is better than Romney.
I see the good friend of Israel Scumtorum really is.