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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: muman613 on April 20, 2012, 03:49:43 PM
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Although I was raised in a Conservative Jewish household and I have generally considered Conservative Judaisms existence as a good thing, I now have to reconsider this in light of the news today. I read a Headline which announces that the Conservative Movement now accepts gay and lesbian {homo} Rabbis. The fact that Conservative, which already has tested several RED LINE issues in Judaism including Kashrut and Women rabbis now has taken the final step off the cliff of oblivion. To accept homosexuals, a crime which is punishable by death in the Torah, the Conservative movement has cut itself off from Torah Judaism and thus has severed the branch of the Jewish tree of life. I cannot, with an honest heart, recommend any Jew to follow a movement which boldly and wantonly defies the WILL of the living G-d of Israel. I rebuke those Conservative leaders who allowed this travesty to occur and I suggest all righteous Jews who have aligned with 'Conservative Judaism' to leave the sinking ship. The next thing will be having Sunday Shabbat services with Organ music.
The ONLY TRUE and AUTHENTIC JUDAISM is the Orthodox strain which has kept the Torah as best as they can. All other 'strains' of Judaism are man-made religions which worship money and perversion.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iXfU8-MPme7qNvJ_le2PCY_cF_OQ?docId=32e38fc5f64e4d298210af26f5361ba5
JERUSALEM (AP) — The Conservative Jewish seminary in Israel says it will allow gays and lesbians to become rabbis, overcoming years of opposition by many of its own leaders and setting up a new point of contention between the movement and Israel's Orthodox establishment.
The Schechter Rabbinical Seminary, affiliated with Israel's Conservative Jewish movement, announced it would begin accepting gay and lesbian rabbinical students in Jerusalem this fall. The decision late Thursday ended a rift with the Conservative movement in the U.S., which began accepting gay and lesbian rabbinical students in 2006 and ordained its first openly lesbian rabbi last year.
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Again I REBUKE THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT for allowing this ABOMINATION to happen in a house of worship.
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I agree, 100%. I am not religious. I prefer to be spiritual. Thats my choice. I follow the Bible to the best of my ability.
You should read volumes 1 & 2 of
"To Eliminate The Opiate" By Rabbi Antelman
Talks about the history of the phoney Judaisms.
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Once a movement starts liberalizing halacha, it's only a matter of time before they reject G-d entirely. The Deform movement is just a bunch of atheists in drag that honors MLK more than they do any of the Prophets, and that's where the Conservative movement is headed because they can't stop pushing the envelope. What's next, Gentile rabbis? Instead of always getting spun up about "equal rights", homos and women just need to chill out and follow Halacha.
No no no, no gentile Rabbis just yett. You need to wait a little and then have them. For now its only the reform and reconstruction who have openly gentile Rabbis. The "conservative" movement has to wait a little more time before they are accepted into the movement.
Anyway these movements are movements of Kefira and have proven again and again that they are not interested in keeping Jewish law, but in assimilating into the gentile cultures. Unfortunatly these ideas even creep into some parts of the "orthodox" world as well when some people who call themselves orthodx Rabbis as well claim to be accepting of homosexuality and all the other non-sense.
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So disappointing. I always liked the Conservative movement. They always seemed to be the most staunchly Zionist and pro-American.
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So disappointing. I always liked the Conservative movement. They always seemed to be the most staunchly Zionist and pro-American.
What does staunchly zionist mean? Being a puppet for the Israeli government?
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Convertative is a better word to describe these fools.
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What does staunchly zionist mean? Being a puppet for the Israeli government?
How is the Israeli govt Zionist?
Psalms 129:5
May all who hate Zion
be turned back in shame.
The Israeli govt, with the now evil USSA forced over 8K Israeli patriots off of their land (Gush Katif) in 2005. How is that a Zionist? Netayahu wants to split up Jerusalem. How is THAT Zionist?
They are not Zionists in the Israeli govt. I am sure there ARE some, but they are not strong enough to stand up to the Socialist/Marxist insanity.
They are not like that LT COL that socked that little leftist jerk in the mouth for his being a pro-f*ckestinian.
If the people IN the conservative move are Zionist, (In America) they would definitely not like the Israeli govt right now at all.
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AsheDina- that is what I'm saying.
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AsheDina- that is what I'm saying.
Well, if they love the Israeli govt, they are insane.
Ok.
Ty
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My opinion has always been that religious should not touch gays and gays should not touch religion. Neither should interfere with the other so that they both exist peacefully. This is bad because by doing this, the gays are breaking this while the conservative movement is allowing it to be broken.
My opinion on the issue has dissented from a large portion of the forum, but at least pretty much everyone here will agree it's bad.
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What does staunchly zionist mean? Being a puppet for the Israeli government?
Please explain
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Please explain
I think he was being 'sarcastic' with that statement. Obviously just blindly supporting Netanyahus government without being concerned for the rights of Jews to their land is not Zionistic...
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Oh this is a very bad development. It is a different thing if there is rebellion against god inside or outside an assembly. Outside it is the natural thing inside the unnatural.
With allowing and encouraging this inside, while pretending to serve god, they do something seriously dangerous, that will affect all the members of it.
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So disappointing. I always liked the Conservative movement. They always seemed to be the most staunchly Zionist and pro-American.
You must be joking.
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So disappointing. I always liked the Conservative movement. They always seemed to be the most staunchly Zionist and pro-American.
Pro American, yes I would believe that, staunchly Zionist? NO. Defenitly not the reform and the conservative are just some years after them in all the issues.
These movements goal was to integrate themselves along with the rest of the Jews into gentile society and culture and eventually nullyfy themselves and Judaism into them (as is happening with the silent holocaust today in Amercia). Soo yes they would be and are the most pro-Amercian or any other country they would be in because that is what they identify themselves first and formost. They identify much less with being Jewish. Before the holocaust many of them proudly served Germany and even fought for it during WW1. When the holocuast came they even displayed their medals to the Germnas who laughed at them. And yes they were fools! I think it is said that more Jews died defending Germany during WW1 then in all the wars of Israel combined!
Another example of this even today would be when things like the killings of murderes are concerned. When bin laden (YSV) was concerned many of these types applaud (as any normal human being should), BUT when mass murderes of Jews are concerned, for example the sheek in the wheel chair from hamas (YSV) their is always a double talk, maybe it was "too harsh", maybe this, maybe that. Even by the Israeli gov. itself. Enough with this stupidity. Enough with Jews being more _________ then the people in those countries themselves.