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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Tag-MehirTzedek on June 11, 2012, 07:01:34 PM
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:laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=C1ct0rDW-lE
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i wonder how hollywood would respond with the same types they support in their swimming pool. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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That was wonderful N.Tel Avivans were freaking out all the leftists going crazy :::D :::D :::D
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The rumor is that the rich clientele refused to use the pool the next day and demanded the water to be replaced.
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Funny how in the video that leftist is screamig how Ben Gvir is a "racist" while demanding that the Africans leave their nice little leftist onclave.
Also wanted to share this from Rambam ZTL
if we see an idolater being swept away or drowning in the river, we should not help him. If we see that his life is in danger, we should not save him. It is, however, forbidden to cause one of them to sink or push him into a pit or the like, since he is not waging war against us.
To whom do the above apply? To (idolaterous) gentiles. It is a mitzvah, however, to eradicate Jewish traitors, minnim, and apikorsim, and to cause them to descend to the pit of destruction, since they cause difficulty to the Jews and sway the people away from God.
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This was a masterpiece. If I would have enough money, I would buy an appartment building in the most fancy area of Germany where all the people vote for the socialists. And then I would put Salafists and criminal Muslims in it for a very low rent. Would be exceptional funny.
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The rumor is that the rich clientele refused to use the pool the next day and demanded the water to be replaced.
There are good reasons for that.
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Funny how in the video that leftist is screamig how Ben Gvir is a "racist" while demanding that the Africans leave their nice little leftist onclave.
Also wanted to share this from Rambam ZTL
if we see an idolater being swept away or drowning in the river, we should not help him. If we see that his life is in danger, we should not save him. It is, however, forbidden to cause one of them to sink or push him into a pit or the like, since he is not waging war against us.
To whom do the above apply? To (idolaterous) gentiles. It is a mitzvah, however, to eradicate Jewish traitors, minnim, and apikorsim, and to cause them to descend to the pit of destruction, since they cause difficulty to the Jews and sway the people away from G-d.
So let's say one of those idolaters that you would, in theory, not help saw you drowning and stood by and watched and did nothing to help. Would they be in the wrong? If so, why? Why should they give you more consideration than you give them?
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So let's say one of those idolaters that you would, in theory, not help saw you drowning and stood by and watched and did nothing to help. Would they be in the wrong? If so, why? Why should they give you more consideration than you give them?
First off, to fit exactly in the category of "idolaters" is not soo easy and not soo clear (today) Soo to the side of merit today I (or we) would save almost any gentile in let's say for example the U.S.A. or some other country. What the Rambam is discussing is in Eretz Yisrael and ancient idol worshippers who did all sorts of wierd rituals and things. Usually we were in a state of war with them and they with us. When we did not have war and we knew an individual to be an idolater we would not need to help him/her, but not come to harm as well.
-We also see (religious) Jews working as doctors and saving gentiles in today's world as well.
- About giving concideration at the time they usually did not, soo we in turn the same.
- The main point is the addressing of Jewish traitors who had and have a lesser status to us then even full fledged idol-worshippers.
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First off, to fit exactly in the category of "idolaters" is not soo easy and not soo clear (today) Soo to the side of merit today I (or we) would save almost any gentile in let's say for example the U.S.A. or some other country. What the Rambam is discussing is in Eretz Yisrael and ancient idol worshippers who did all sorts of wierd rituals and things. Usually we were in a state of war with them and they with us. When we did not have war and we knew an individual to be an idolater we would not need to help him/her, but not come to harm as well.
-We also see (religious) Jews working as doctors and saving gentiles in today's world as well.
- About giving concideration at the time they usually did not, soo we in turn the same.
- The main point is the addressing of Jewish traitors who had and have a lesser status to us then even full fledged idol-worshippers.
Thanks for the response. It does make more sense in the context of war and in that case it's understandable.
If someone told me under more normal circumstances that they would not save me though it would feel a little self-hating to help them if they were in need. I'd probably still do it but not because I liked them, but just out of human decency.