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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: admin on July 01, 2007, 02:44:43 AM
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He agrees with us and strongly criticizes Nazi missionaries.
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Why... thank you, but I do not deserve this honor. Nobody is righteous, and certainly not me. Jesus taught we all deserve death and it is simply because of G-d's grace that we are forgiven.
I know I am one of the biggest hypocrites around, and my faith is actually quite weak much of the time. :-[
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I thought I already said what I believe elsewhere--I do believe Jesus is the true way, but that real witnessing is actions and not words.
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She was a Muslim at the time.
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Can we please stop talking about this? The thing about Sarah is true, but I stopped talking about Christianity with her when she told me to stop and you posted the warning to everybody afterward.
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Thanks.
For a truly righteous Christian poster, I want to nominate our very own Christian Zionist, who is currently on hiatus. He always set a sterling example, and though he also believes that Jesus is the messiah of all mankind, he always was respectful to Jews and all other faiths and never was a proselytizing a-hole in the least.
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I love being a Christian and love my faith but I think missionaires has no part on either side. This is unbelievable how Allen just went like this.
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Don't forget about Masterwolf, he's another one of our excellent righteous Christians. ;)
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Amen to that! :)
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Maybe we need a section from the Christians like myself or Chaimfan or Christian Zionist to explain to any new Christians that are thinking of joining the forum about this issue and why it is wrong. Maybe if they hear it from the fellow Christians. Cause I am trying to bring more and more people into the movement maybe if they see it from our prospective that they can try to grasp it. It is just a suggestion.
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I really wish CZ would come back. :(
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Where is he?
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Maybe we need a section from the Christians like myself or Chaimfan or Christian Zionist to explain to any new Christians that are thinking of joining the forum about this issue and why it is wrong. Maybe if they hear it from the fellow Christians. Cause I am trying to bring more and more people into the movement maybe if they see it from our prospective that they can try to grasp it. It is just a suggestion.
This is a really good idea. Who is CZ?
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Maybe we need a section from the Christians like myself or Chaimfan or Christian Zionist to explain to any new Christians that are thinking of joining the forum about this issue and why it is wrong. Maybe if they hear it from the fellow Christians. Cause I am trying to bring more and more people into the movement maybe if they see it from our prospective that they can try to grasp it. It is just a suggestion.
This is a good idea.
Christian Zionist, I haven't seen him post in a while has he posted on Ask JTF?
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Yacov, as you are not a Christian I don't think you can judge what makes a good Christian.
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Yacov, as you are not a Christian I don't think you can judge what makes a good Christian.
So by thet logic we also cant judge the muslims because we are not muslims.
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I was a christian but I am now a Noahide. I could not stand the leftest, liberal, progressive social stand the christians (all sects of it) take. My take on how Christianity started out is that it was started by very liberal Jewish people who did not have the constitution to keep the laws of traditional Judaism. If you look today at some of the 'new judiasm' they talk a lot like these secular priests who want to go all over the place and institute socialist types of government all over the planet, convert everyone they see into little commies, what people who work hard to give all their money to parasites that do not want to work. I know it sounds crazy to some of you guys, but think about it.
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I was a christian but I am now a Noahide. I could not stand the leftest, liberal, progressive social stand the christians (all sects of it) take. My take on how Christianity started out is that it was started by very liberal Jewish people who did not have the constitution to keep the laws of traditional Judaism. If you look today at some of the 'new judiasm' they talk a lot like these secular priests who want to go all over the place and institute socialist types of government all over the planet, convert everyone they see into little commies, what people who work hard to give all their money to parasites that do not want to work. I know it sounds crazy to some of you guys, but think about it.
I think we need to steer clear from going down this path fjack. It's very insulting to Christians to come up with alternative theories on where their faith came from. We're not against Christians, we're just against Christians who try to convert Jews. You're right about how liberal "reformed" Jews behave very similarly to mainstream Christians.
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At the behest of a member I greatly respect I'm gonna stick around a bit longer and post my thoughts.
Yaacov, you're exercising a double standard here. You don't see Christian posters saying who is a good Jew and who isn't. We expect the same courtesy from you.
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I did not mean to harm or insult anyone. This was just a thought I had when I started to see some things that did not add up to me.
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At the behest of a member I greatly respect I'm gonna stick around a bit longer and post my thoughts.
Yaacov, you're exercising a double standard here. You don't see Christian posters saying who is a good Jew and who isn't. We expect the same courtesy from you.
He never said thet, he just saying thet C.F. is a good christian and nothing else.
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At the behest of a member I greatly respect I'm gonna stick around a bit longer and post my thoughts.
Yaacov, you're exercising a double standard here. You don't see Christian posters saying who is a good Jew and who isn't. We expect the same courtesy from you.
He never said thet, he just saying thet C.F. is a good christian and nothing else.
He said that Allen is a bad Christian and CF is a good Christian, how about I say that Yacov is abad Jew and JeffGuy is a good Jew. You don't want me saying things like that so...
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HERES THE WAY I LOOK AT IT Allen never tried to convert anyone on the forum,he was honest with the other mods that a few times outside the forum if someone asked he tried to explain Christians,he was also honest in a post or on 1 of the tapes that this happened 5 x and he was unsuccesfull.Would t have been better if he lied
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Folks can we please drop this?
My personal opinion on this whole mess is that Allen should not have openly admitted missionizing to Jews, and things would have been fine. Otherwise, I was very happy with all he did for us on YouTube.
Now can we please stop criticizing the remaining Christians here or putting them on the spot? I really appreciate that Chaimfan, Masterwolf, Hail Columbia and Thunderbolt have stayed. Let's not make them feel even more uncomfortable.
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Folks can we please drop this?
My personal opinion on this whole mess is that Allen should not have openly admitted missionizing to Jews, and things would have been fine. Otherwise, I was very happy with all he did for us on YouTube.
Now can we please stop criticizing the remaining Christians here or putting them on the spot? I really appreciate that Chaimfan, Masterwolf, Hail Columbia and Thunderbolt have stayed. Let's not make them feel even more uncomfortable.
It was laid to rest, Lisa. But ftf and thunderbolt are comming on just to start rocking the boat. Read their posts.
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At the behest of a member I greatly respect I'm gonna stick around a bit longer and post my thoughts.
Yaacov, you're exercising a double standard here. You don't see Christian posters saying who is a good Jew and who isn't. We expect the same courtesy from you.
He never said thet, he just saying thet C.F. is a good christian and nothing else.
He said that Allen is a bad Christian and CF is a good Christian, how about I say that Yacov is abad Jew and JeffGuy is a good Jew. You don't want me saying things like that so...
Were did he said he is a bad christian ?
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You don't see Christian posters saying who is a good Jew and who isn't.
Well, rightly or wrongly I have. I said the likes of Tzipi Livni and other depraved self-hating sewage don't deserve to be considered Jews.
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He said that Allen is a bad Christian and CF is a good Christian, how about I say that Yacov is abad Jew and JeffGuy is a good Jew. You don't want me saying things like that so...
FTF, what is your beef about? I would never be so arrogant as to call myself a "good Christian", but wouldn't you say that a member who leaves our group in a flaming rage, spams our forum with gay porn images that night, and turns against Jewry on Youtube is a wicked person? Is that not obvious?
I am getting tired of your knee-jerk reactions on this general issue at every turn.
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He said that Allen is a bad Christian and CF is a good Christian, how about I say that Yacov is abad Jew and JeffGuy is a good Jew. You don't want me saying things like that so...
FTF, what is your beef about? I would never be so arrogant as to call myself a "good Christian", but wouldn't you say that a member who leaves our group in a flaming rage, spams our forum with gay porn images that night, and turns against Jewry on Youtube is a wicked person? Is that not obvious?
I am getting tired of your knee-jerk reactions on this general issue at every term.
C.F,
ftf is only here to cry , whine and rock the boat. Don't bother.
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Folks this is going absolutely nowhere. Let's try and move on. Otherwise, I'll lock this thread.
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Allen didn't post any porn, and I haen't seen im turning against Jews on youtube, he;s pretty upset with JTF, but that's it.
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Allen didn't post any porn
Yes, he did. Ask anybody here. He flooded the forum with gay porn images under the username "Somethingnew".
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That wasn't him.
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How do you know?
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That wasn't him.
How do you know?
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He had asolutely no reason to do it, it wouldn't fit with his character and there's nothing to suggest that it was him. He also has told me that he only attempted to register for one extra account and he was never sent a confirmation email for it. I have no reason not to trust him, give me one.
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Lisa, lock it already the whole situation is sickening. I am really disturbed with much of what I have seen this morning. Any outsider that would have seen what I have on here since 4 am would have left and never come back. We really need to take a break from this whole issue.
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That wasn't him.
How do you know?
how do you know it wasn't you and then blame it on him?
Come on...stop it already...enough!
Delete all the allen-t flamed threads..don't just lock them.
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He had asolutely no reason to do it, it wouldn't fit with his character and there's nothing to suggest that it was him. He also has told me that he only attempted to register for one extra account and he was never sent a confirmation email for it. I have no reason not to trust him, give me one.
FTF, I am really disappointed that you still side with this demented individual despite him revealing himself so well in the past couple of days. I wonder what Chaim will say about this tonight.
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That wasn't him.
How do you know?
how do you know it wasn't you and then blame it on him?
Come on...stop it already...enough!
Delete all the allen-t flamed threads..don't just lock them.
Gimme a break!
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He had asolutely no reason to do it, it wouldn't fit with his character and there's nothing to suggest that it was him. He also has told me that he only attempted to register for one extra account and he was never sent a confirmation email for it. I have no reason not to trust him, give me one.
FTF, I am really disappointed that you still side with this demented individual despite him revealing himself so well in the past couple of days. I wonder what Chaim will say about this tonight.
I am disappointed you took your original poll down CF what would Chaim say about that?
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He had asolutely no reason to do it, it wouldn't fit with his character and there's nothing to suggest that it was him. He also has told me that he only attempted to register for one extra account and he was never sent a confirmation email for it. I have no reason not to trust him, give me one.
FTF, I am really disappointed that you still side with this demented individual despite him revealing himself so well in the past couple of days. I wonder what Chaim will say about this tonight.
I am disappointed you took your original poll down CF what would Chaim say about that?
Don't put it all on C.F,
We all went ape after that twit's videos and used the posts to vent.
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That wasn't him.
How do you know?
how do you know it wasn't you and then blame it on him?
Come on...stop it already...enough!
Delete all the allen-t flamed threads..don't just lock them.
Gimme a break!
A break of what? ;D
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OK, so the final verdict on Allen-T is what?
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You are rigtheous because you viciously oppose missionaries, who are not real Christians.
Do you oppose missionaries 100%, whether they are preying on Jews or other Non-Christians?
What is your problem with Christian missionaries evangelizing Muslims or pagans?
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You are rigtheous because you viciously oppose missionaries, who are not real Christians.
Do you oppose missionaries 100%, whether they are preying on Jews or other Non-Christians?
What is your problem with Christian missionaries evangelizing Muslims or pagans?
Evry one need to choos his path alone!