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Title: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on September 20, 2012, 06:33:46 PM: Which do you like better?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3LgSMFkAi0&feature=related
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: IsraelForever on September 20, 2012, 06:40:28 PM: I like being stabbed in the eye with a sharp stick better.
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on September 20, 2012, 06:45:47 PM: Metal \M/
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on September 20, 2012, 06:47:15 PM: I like both, but I prefer his metal to his punk!
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on September 20, 2012, 06:48:20 PM: Quote from: IsraelForever on September 20, 2012, 06:40:28 PM
I like being stabbed in the eye with a sharp stick better.
:::D :laugh:
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on September 20, 2012, 08:31:08 PM: Quote from: IsraelForever on September 20, 2012, 06:40:28 PM
I like being stabbed in the eye with a sharp stick better.

How about a sharp knife :::D
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: briann on September 20, 2012, 11:38:30 PM: Metal is more melodic.
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: muman613 on September 21, 2012, 12:26:20 AM: I HATE PUNK with a passion. Sounds like noise and the lyrics really stink.

I like some Metal, the classic Metal like Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, and Metallica {I've actually seen all of those perform live}..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM8bTdBs-cw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWwmIfy0GNE
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: muman613 on September 21, 2012, 01:18:24 AM: One more of my favorite Metallica songs from the 90s... The Black Album:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z22s_tsHbj8
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: briann on September 21, 2012, 01:23:55 AM: I was a HUGE maiden fan. Well, I still am.. Also, I loved their album covers:

(http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a474/johmbolaya/covers/IronMaiden-2Min.jpg)

(http://i2.listal.com/image/297190/600full-aces-high-cover.jpg)

(http://i2.listal.com/image/297153/600full-run-to-the-hills-cover.jpg)
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on September 21, 2012, 01:31:31 AM: Quote from: briann on September 21, 2012, 01:23:55 AM
I was a HUGE maiden fan. Well, I still am.. Also, I loved their album covers:

(http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a474/johmbolaya/covers/IronMaiden-2Min.jpg)

(http://i2.listal.com/image/297190/600full-aces-high-cover.jpg)

(http://i2.listal.com/image/297153/600full-run-to-the-hills-cover.jpg)

Me too

I'm yet to get their new album.
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: muman613 on September 21, 2012, 01:34:42 AM: Here are two of the tickets to Metallica shows which I scanned a few years ago...

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Rr6llkfxkh4/TU8lssWgRZI/AAAAAAAAAfM/i3jDcHfBWY4/s400/MET_02_12_1992.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jy3nQKwz57k/TU8ltyBMdAI/AAAAAAAAAfo/-4KsDmVE5VQ/s400/MET_07_26_1994.jpg)
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: briann on September 21, 2012, 02:33:59 AM: Quote from: muman613 on September 21, 2012, 01:34:42 AM
Here are two of the tickets to Metallica shows which I scanned a few years ago...

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Rr6llkfxkh4/TU8lssWgRZI/AAAAAAAAAfM/i3jDcHfBWY4/s400/MET_02_12_1992.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jy3nQKwz57k/TU8ltyBMdAI/AAAAAAAAAfo/-4KsDmVE5VQ/s400/MET_07_26_1994.jpg)

I saw Metallica the same year with Guns N Roses at the Rose Bowl. Very Cool Concert.
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Zelhar on September 21, 2012, 07:50:07 AM: punk.
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: USAReturn2GodNow1776 on September 21, 2012, 12:54:38 PM: I like Metallica. I hate the kind of metal with screaming.
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on September 21, 2012, 01:04:15 PM: Quote from: DeathToIslam1776 on September 21, 2012, 12:54:38 PM
I like Metallica. I hate the kind of metal with screaming.

I only like the old 80's early 90's Metallica.
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on September 21, 2012, 01:10:10 PM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwrHMd-H_aQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: briann on September 21, 2012, 03:36:53 PM: Quote from: DeathToIslam1776 on September 21, 2012, 12:54:38 PM
I like Metallica. I hate the kind of metal with screaming.

Do you mean growling or squealing high?
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: muman613 on September 21, 2012, 04:43:34 PM: Quote from: Ephraim on September 21, 2012, 01:10:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwrHMd-H_aQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I saw Pantera also...

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WDxX31E1L8E/TU8lrM_B-PI/AAAAAAAAAew/36KkVm6a4Kw/s400/PANT_08_17_1992.jpg)
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Zelhar on September 21, 2012, 05:09:59 PM: I like that punk songs are short and they don't linger pointlessly with a stretched prologue and epilogue.
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: serbian army on September 21, 2012, 07:04:18 PM: Love them both. I am big fan of Metallica.

Punk in Serbia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60GgolEiCy8&feature=related
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: serbian army on September 21, 2012, 07:26:28 PM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-1sEcEz0sg&feature=related

Like to see James wearing big cross!!
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on September 21, 2012, 07:52:15 PM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z09lRmh-ge4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on September 21, 2012, 07:59:13 PM: And just to throw everyone off, what about funk? This is the first concert I got to go to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh3bleXWaCk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: briann on September 21, 2012, 09:17:42 PM: I guess some funk is ok. btw, is red hot chili peppers considered funk?
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on September 21, 2012, 09:36:11 PM: Quote from: briann on September 21, 2012, 09:17:42 PM
I guess some funk is ok. btw, is red hot chili peppers considered funk?
I think they are considered funk alternative. I always considered it skater music, I was a thrasher.
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Israel Chai on September 21, 2012, 09:48:24 PM: Quote from: Ephraim on September 21, 2012, 09:36:11 PM
I think they are considered funk alternative. I always considered it skater music, I was a thrasher.

Is it just me or was that not English?
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on September 21, 2012, 09:52:50 PM: Ya, it was English, is it passed Shabbot?
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on September 21, 2012, 10:04:27 PM: Oh, yeah! I forget you are French, and don't under stand English very well! Sorry!
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Israel Chai on September 21, 2012, 10:26:02 PM: Quote from: Ephraim on September 21, 2012, 10:04:27 PM
Oh, yeah! I forget you are French, and don't under stand English very well! Sorry!

Merde. I'm the only one trying in my house, so I forget. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on September 21, 2012, 10:42:37 PM: Quote from: LKZ on September 21, 2012, 10:26:02 PM
Merde. I'm the only one trying in my house, so I forget. Thanks again.
Not hard to remember, three stars in the night sky!
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: The Noachide on September 21, 2012, 11:47:27 PM: Metal wins by a landslide.
Punk is too repetitive, but has a good theme politically.
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Sveta on September 23, 2012, 09:23:02 PM: It's Post-Punk for me. Punk was not all about the music but the attitude, not conforming to the norms.
And I'm talking about real punk from the 70s and 80s and Post-Punk of the late 70s. (Post-punk and Post-Punk Revival being my favorite out of the Punk genre)

I don't believe in "Punk" of the 2000s like "American Idiot" or Avril Lavinge's fake poison bubble gum punk. Real Punk is passion, it's 70s and 80s Ramones, UK Subs, The Clash and so on. I don't approve of the Sex Pistols because of their nazi shirt wearing references.

Post Punk- Joy Division! <3

I've never been into Metal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UCDjD5a8PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHYOXyy1ToI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbDekaqw3lQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOjfEF-XAJk
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: briann on September 23, 2012, 09:44:19 PM: Im not too sure why anyone would think Punk's political message is good. Anarchy, violence, and sex is more suited for an OWS member than a JTF member
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on September 23, 2012, 10:06:28 PM: Quote from: briann on September 23, 2012, 09:44:19 PM
Im not too sure why anyone would think Punk's political message is good. Anarchy, violence, and sex is more suited for an OWS member than a JTF member
Calm down, she is a kid! We all use too listen to crazy music!
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Sveta on September 23, 2012, 10:28:34 PM: Ok I'm going to quit the forum and go to OWS then. I'm just kidding of course but I don't see how the Metal message fits in with JTF members either.

Besides, Post-Punk and Post-Punk Revival have never been about "anarchy". They're just about non-conformity. If anyone had heard the Joy Divison song "Love Will Tear us Apart" which is Post-Punk (not Punk) would have gathered there is no anarchy there. (Pure 70s/80s punk is indeed about Anarchy but Post-Punk not. Pure 70s/80s Punk is more Rock N Roll with a fight and Post-Punk is more experimental).

In fact the songs I posted (other than The Ramones) have NOTHING to do with Anarchy. So I don't fit in with the mohawk anarchy stereotype although in my teens/early 20s I did have jet black hair and plaid punk pants, fishnet gloves and temporarily got purple hair one time. But like Ephraim said, we all did wild things in our youth. And I am always going to be a Punk girl at heart- yes a Punk girl who loves Israel and will rebel at the people and governments that hate us. Chaos to Obama!

Btw, thanks for calling me a kid Ephraim, I might be a bit older than you think though ;p Us Punk people are used to feeling the love from those who don't really like our genre. ~_~ I don't like Metal at all but I respect it, the people who like it are cool people overall. Especially Metal JTFrs :)

Also,
This is Post-Punk Revival:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDVobP7Bfzo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZmLdBOS2aI
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on September 23, 2012, 11:05:04 PM: Sorry, for calling you a kid! :)
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Sveta on September 23, 2012, 11:12:16 PM: Quote from: Ephraim on September 23, 2012, 11:05:04 PM
Sorry, for calling you a kid! :)

Thanks for considering me young :)
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: briann on September 23, 2012, 11:59:13 PM: Obviously, I like crazy music at times.... however very few songs of any modern genre have a good political message; punk is certainly no exception, and neither is metal.

Most songs today are either openly Leftist/anti-religious/anti-capitalist or are childish and silly songs about youth, craziness, and sex.

That's not to say that a lot of it wasn't musically good... its just overall... there is VERY that had any good political messages.
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on September 24, 2012, 12:49:15 AM: Metal bands I like:

Sabbath (with Ozzy)
Iron Maiden
Anthrax
Metallica (early only)
Megadeth (all eras)
Slayer (especially early)
Korn (some of their work, I can't stand Jonathan Davis though)
Mushroomhead
ICP and Slipknot
Lamb of G-d
Killswitch
In Flames
5FDP

Punk I like:

Ramones
The Knack
Social D
Pennywise
Suicidal Tendencies
Offspring
Bad Religion
Distillers
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Israel Chai on September 24, 2012, 05:09:42 AM: Quote from: Brennanfan on September 24, 2012, 12:49:15 AM
Metal bands I like:

Sabbath (with Ozzy)
Iron Maiden
Anthrax
Metallica (early only)
Megadeth (all eras)
Slayer (especially early)
Korn (some of their work, I can't stand Jonathan Davis though)
Mushroomhead
ICP and Slipknot
Lamb of G-d
Killswitch
In Flames
5FDP

Punk I like:

Ramones
The Knack
Social D
Pennywise
Suicidal Tendencies
Offspring
Bad Religion
Distillers

I like bla bla bla I don't know who any of these are except for ozzy and iron maiden, and I've only listened to two songs from ozzy and saw an iron maiden t-shirt. Why the hell would you care about these guys??
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Nachus on September 24, 2012, 09:56:18 PM: :dance:

There are good songs in both genres.
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: muman613 on September 24, 2012, 10:18:40 PM: Alright, lets get down to the brass-tacks of Heavy Metal, one of the pioneers of what we today know as Heavy Metal...

Black Sabbath, Live 1970, with Ozzy singing Paranoid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aIhh9nFYv4

With Ronnie James Dio, Heaven and Hell:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUJH7y1yK_E
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on September 24, 2012, 10:31:51 PM: What about the Misfits and Danzig?
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: muman613 on September 24, 2012, 10:32:17 PM: One of Black Sabbaths all time mellow and moving tune from the early 70s... Planet Caravan...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O63COyZlTyU
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on September 24, 2012, 10:51:29 PM: Good one Muman! How about this ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByCIsHtFAj0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on September 24, 2012, 10:52:13 PM: Quote from: Ephraim on September 24, 2012, 10:31:51 PM
What about the Misfits and Danzig?
I am not familiar with Misfits, and Danzig is more like bluesy classic rock, neither of the above.
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on September 24, 2012, 10:56:44 PM: You have got to know this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyd8dY8rRtA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: muman613 on September 24, 2012, 11:02:14 PM: Nobody else likes Alice Cooper? I saw him in the 90s:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-DYVUpBW9CdM/TU8luMpKkaI/AAAAAAAAAfs/T1NQ-3D6ceM/s400/ORR_07_12_1991.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=672u44anOZU
Title: Re: Punk vs Metal
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on September 24, 2012, 11:07:57 PM: My favorite Alice Cooper song!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNF2KNcRm-U&feature=youtube_gdata_player