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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: NoMosqueHere on November 24, 2012, 11:58:09 PM
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What kind of country will America be in 2042, when whites are projected to become a minority and the overall population will around 500 million? America will have 200 million more people than it has today, and most will be non white. Tens of millions of americans cannot find jobs today; how will we employ, feed, and accomodate another 200 million, mostly third world people? Scary thought, or is it?
Jews and many righteous gentiles may be uncomfortable with this idea, but whites need to wake up and re-establish a white identity; in other words, they need to begin to defend their white interests, keep america majority white, and prevent the impending immigration tidal wave of illiterate and unemployable third world people. Unfortunately, a lot bad people are associated with "white identity," but what is the alternative? A black, hispanic, and muslim Third World United States?
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I wonder what things will be like then..... especially since the percentage of dependent people is rising so quickly.
Another thing I wonder about..... who will they blame for all their problems if they outnumber whites?
Who will be the new "oppressor"?
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After the mass amnesty, it will happen much sooner. America will be majority non-white a lot faster than people expect unless the American people finally wake up.
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Expect a government like they had in Liberia.... I watched a documentary on the history of Liberia right after Shabbat ended here and boy is that black country messed up...
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I wonder what things will be like then..... especially since the percentage of dependent people is rising so quickly.
Another thing I wonder about..... who will they blame for all their problems if they outnumber whites?
Who will be the new "oppressor"?
The key is what happens to the people when they get here, especially the next generations. If we continue with multi culturalism it will be bad. If they follow the path of former immigrants who became Americanized it will not be bad.
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Our government will be so beyond bankrupt by then.. we may see a mass exodus far before then.
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The key is what happens to the people when they get here, especially the next generations. If we continue with multi culturalism it will be bad. If they follow the path of former immigrants who became Americanized it will not be bad.
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Third World immigrants are not similar to the European immigrants who came to the U.S. in the last two centuries. If and when America becomes majority Third World, the entire country will be like New York and California - socialistic, crime-ridden, gang-infested, corrupt, union-dominated, dependent on government and "politically correct" in the extreme. America's white minority and especially the Jews will be the targets of violent, bitter hatred and envy.
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In a hundred years (certainly maybe sooner, but I'm being conservative), the United States will not be recognizable. As I've said before, among other horrible things, Jews may have to actually flee.
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Third World immigrants are not similar to the European immigrants who came to the U.S. in the last two centuries. If and when America becomes majority Third World, the entire country will be like New York and California - socialistic, crime-ridden, gang-infested, corrupt, union-dominated, dependent on government and "politically correct" in the extreme. America's white minority and especially the Jews will be the targets of violent, bitter hatred and envy.
Thank you for educating people about this. I'm really grateful there are some people like yourself who will tell the truth on this issue.
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Chaim is right. Do you (white) people want America to become another South Africa? Wake up!!!!!
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Chaim is right. Do you (white) people want America to become another South Africa? Wake up!!!!!
Unless White people start having more babies we will be overwhelmed by minorities and immigrants.
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Americans murder their own babies in order to perpetuate their tradition of hypergamy.
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A non-white majority does not necessarily spell the end. Brazil and a few other countries down there are doing pretty well, still 3rd world but rapidly developing into something respectable. The key is getting the right type of immigrants, white or otherwise. China is having the world's largest migration of humans, from rural to urban, all of them go to work, if the US tried to bank on that, that might be the thing that saves it. And that's just China, there's other rapidly developing 3rd world countries that may have good immigrant population, as well as declining 1st world countries like in Europe and Japan. This maybe the thing that saves America, if by some miracle it survive's Obama's 2nd term.
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"Jews and many righteous gentiles may be uncomfortable with this idea, but whites need to wake up and re-establish a white identity"
What's exactly your definition for white? Aren't Jews(at leat the Ashkenazi(sp?)) white?
I don't ask this to annoy. I really want to know.
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A non-white majority does not necessarily spell the end. Brazil and a few other countries down there are doing pretty well, still 3rd world but rapidly developing into something respectable. The key is getting the right type of immigrants, white or otherwise. China is having the world's largest migration of humans, from rural to urban, all of them go to work, if the US tried to bank on that, that might be the thing that saves it. And that's just China, there's other rapidly developing 3rd world countries that may have good immigrant population, as well as declining 1st world countries like in Europe and Japan. This maybe the thing that saves America, if by some miracle it survive's Obama's 2nd term.
What helped China was their switch from communism to some form of capitalism. Their growth phase is already in the process of ending, however. They are already notorious for building "ghost cities" to artificially maintain their portion of "global demand" for industrial materials and to occupy their overpopulation with work - all contributing to artificially inflating their "growth rate" on the way down. Their growth rate is now in decline after a boom period.
Anyway, more important than China is that the immigrants coming to this country today are socialist and racist/resentful against whites, the English language, American exceptionalism, and basically all values the founding fathers stood for. Automatic voters for the Democratic party, but bad for the country. Now, does Brazil succeed because of massive entitlement programs and socialist philosophy? Or does it succeed because of capitalism?
Oh, and say goodbye to unanimous US support for Israel. The democratic party is already 50/50 just on a war between Hamas and Israel. As their numbers grow with this type of antisemitic subspecies from the third world, they will more and more favor Gazans and arabs.
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A non-white majority does not necessarily spell the end. Brazil and a few other countries down there are doing pretty well, still 3rd world but rapidly developing into something respectable. The key is getting the right type of immigrants, white or otherwise. China is having the world's largest migration of humans, from rural to urban, all of them go to work, if the US tried to bank on that, that might be the thing that saves it. And that's just China, there's other rapidly developing 3rd world countries that may have good immigrant population, as well as declining 1st world countries like in Europe and Japan. This maybe the thing that saves America, if by some miracle it survive's Obama's 2nd term.
Some hope. Seriously, we are already surrounded by Jew haters, even here in NYC, supposedly one of the most heavily Jewish cities on planet earth.
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Unless White people start having more babies we will be overwhelmed by minorities and immigrants.
I agree. White people need to start having more babies both here in North America and in Europe.
It's the only possible way to having a white majority.
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Their growth phase is already in the process of ending, however. They are already notorious for building "ghost cities" to artificially maintain their portion of "global demand" for industrial materials and to occupy their overpopulation with work - all contributing to artificially inflating their "growth rate" on the way down. Their growth rate is now in decline after a boom period.
I've seen the documentaries on the massive ghost cities in China, massive modern cities with towering apartment complexes that are completely empty. All to increase their GDP. They play by the rules of the speculative and derivative global markets, but on the other hand, they're smart enough not to allow foreign control of their currency because they enforce central banking - which is actually a good thing.
Romney and Ryan complained that China was "artificially keeping their currency low" in order to pay less for goods than the rest of the world. Of course they're keeping their currency low - why wouldn't they, when it allows people to actually use the currency as opposed to America where the currency is artificially high. Ultimately, it is better for society when people work for low wages and barely sustain themselves than to receive entitlements from beauracracy (Although of course I understand that neither situation is desirable). Romney and Ryan don't understand neumismatics.
So essentially, the same thing that is happening in America is happening in China... Population control... In China, it's done through deprivation of liberties, in America, it has been done in the past mainly through destruction of the currency. I believe China is a more resilient nation and without the intervention of G-D, will easily overtake the United States, because their population growth STILL outpaces the US even with the 1 child policy because of the massive rates of abortion and male incarceration in the US.
Now, does Brazil succeed because of massive entitlement programs and socialist philosophy? Or does it succeed because of capitalism?
Brazil will not be "succeeding" for very much longer... If you've watched Jeremy Corsi's "Dreams From My Real Father" (I don't agree with Morsi that Frank Marshall Davis is Obama's real father, but the other research he did for the documentary was impeccable), you'll know how Obama thinks. Obama is anti-White under the guise of being an anti-Colonialist. The next step between the massive oil subsidies the US is giving to Brazil will be an unconditional "liberation" of the notorious Brazillian favellas, thus liberating an unprecedent fifth column of Black Savages upon the Brazillian population. It will become a very unpleasant place soon.
China will become the next superpower, unless G-D intervenes. The Technocratic Totalitarianism will grow in China, and will perpetuate the population reduction, but only to a point where they are narrowly eking out America. As soon as America's
"debt" to China will surpass the last milestone, the real people who pull the strings in the US, the hidden from public American Edomite families will back an extreme demagogue who will denounce all debt to China declaring it null and void thus sparking the great war between the West and the East described by George Orwell in 1984.
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Brazil's prosperity will not last. There are large structural problems with their economy which has benefited from sales of natural resources to china
The only silver lining to this election loss is that some conservative Americans are starting to understand that America has a demographic problem. Ultimately this is what is destroying America and the horse has bolted. The end result will be the breakup of the united states within 15 years. Unfortunately I don't think Jews will be welcome in any new territory because it will be widely believed jews were largely responsible for the demise of America (unfortunately this is partially true)
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I agree. Jews will have no place in post-Federalist militias which will no doubt have a large percentage of their members affiliates of various White Nationalist (read: Nazi) groups. Jews will eventually become üntermentschen once again, even lower than the third world masses, because society will favour those who are most opportunistic (And religious Jews do not behave like animals - eating what they can and surviving at the expense of others).
Once again, all this is unless G-D intervenes, which I pray he will do.
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I want to know what the heck is 'White'? Am I supposed to subscribe to things because I am white? Not actually, I am a Jew, and me and my family have been Jews and stand with the Jewish people. If we were supposed to be white why didn't they allow Jews into America during the Holocaust? I guess we weren't white enough for them. And I just discovered that Jews were not allowed to vote in America until 1828 or there about. It was because only those who believed in the G-d of Jesus were permitted to vote according to state laws. Were we 'white' enough to vote? Even blacks were considered 3/5ths of a vote, a Jew was largely unrepresented during the 1st 60+ years of this countries existence...
So I don't know what exactly white is. Those who call themselves White Supremacists do not count Jews among their ranks {or those who do must hide their Jewish roots}.
I want to see Jews become less of a minority... And at least my Rabbis are making sure of this, they are the only Jews who have six-eight Jewish children in their life... I just celebrated the Brit/Circumcision of my Rabbis second son (of five children)...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffrage
In several states in the U.S. after the Declaration of Independence, Jews, Quakers or Catholics were denied voting rights and/or forbidden to run for office.[9] The Delaware Constitution of 1776 stated that "Every person who shall be chosen a member of either house, or appointed to any office or place of trust, before taking his seat, or entering upon the execution of his office, shall (…) also make and subscribe the following declaration, to wit: I, A B. do profess faith in God the Father, and in Jesus Christ His only Son, and in the Holy Ghost, one God, blessed for evermore; and I do acknowledge the holy scriptures of the Old and New Testament to be given by divine inspiration.".[10] This was repealed by article I, section 2 of the 1792 Constitution: "No religious test shall be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, under this State.".[11] The 1778 Constitution of the State of South Carolina stated that "No person shall be eligible to sit in the house of representatives unless he be of the Protestant religion",[12] the 1777 Constitution of the State of Georgia (art. VI) that "The representatives shall be chosen out of the residents in each county (…) and they shall be of the Protestent (sic) religion".[13] In Maryland, voting rights and eligibility were extended to Jews in 1828.[14]
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I want to know what the heck is 'White'? Am I supposed to subscribe to things because I am white? Not actually, I am a Jew, and me and my family have been Jews and stand with the Jewish people. If we were supposed to be white why didn't they allow Jews into America during the Holocaust? I guess we weren't white enough for them. And I just discovered that Jews were not allowed to vote in America until 1828 or there about. It was because only those who believed in the G-d of Jesus were permitted to vote according to state laws. Were we 'white' enough to vote? Even blacks were considered 3/5ths of a vote, a Jew was largely unrepresented during the 1st 60+ years of this countries existence...
So I don't know what exactly white is. Those who call themselves White Supremacists do not count Jews among their ranks {or those who do must hide their Jewish roots}.
I want to see Jews become less of a minority... And at least my Rabbis are making sure of this, they are the only Jews who have six-eight Jewish children in their life... I just celebrated the Brit/Circumcision of my Rabbis second son (of five children)...
In the context of our discussion, someone that is white comes from an ethnic group which has a genetic makeup capable of contributing to a productive society
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In the context of our discussion, someone that is white comes from an ethnic group which has a genetic makeup capable of contributing to a productive society
Jews of all ethnicities have contributed to the productive society for many thousands of years. Has something changed now that we should be accepted as 'white' now?
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You mean 2012.
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When we say "white" we mean european-americans. It doesn't really matter what fraction of American Jews are white or if they are even white at all because Jews comprise no more than 2-3% of the population. It does not matter if Chinese and Japanese Americans are considered white as they are only 5% of the U.S. population. This all boils down to hispanics replacing european americans as the major ethnic group and then aligning themselves with the blacks to vote for more anti-white racist policies and income redistribution.
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When we say "white" we mean european-americans. It doesn't really matter what fraction of American Jews are white or if they are even white at all because Jews comprise no more than 2-3% of the population. It does not matter if Chinese and Japanese Americans are considered white as they are only 5% of the U.S. population. This all boils down to hispanics replacing european americans as the major ethnic group and then aligning themselves with the blacks to vote for more anti-white racist policies and income redistribution.
This is a good explanation. I agree in principle that certain groups do threaten the stability which our society has had.
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I'd rather be dead than live in a hideous environment like new york city, especially on a nation wide level.
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After the mass amnesty, it will happen much sooner. America will be majority non-white a lot faster than people expect unless the American people finally wake up.
Very true..... didn't think of that. Do you (or anyone) think it is God's plan and America will not wake up?
I am not suggesting we accept things and just go with it.... even if it is God's plan I feel it would be a sin not to fight it, we would be unable to thwart God's plan so if it is it won't change anything.... if it isn't, maybe we could change our path.
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I'm forced to agree that the projections look lousy, and this eventuality would be ugly. However, one never can be sure about such projections. For instance, we're assuming that the United States stays intact. There's no shortage of international observers (many in the Kremlin, for instance) who predict that the United States will break into pieces, and not long from now. And if that happens, then all demographic projections are out the window.
At first, I thought that any talk of secession was silly, and I would still call that quite unlikely. But impossible? If there's an economic collapse, then it's my opinion that a break-up of the United States will be inevitable. The reddest and rural of the red states are not going to succumb to communism as a cure for ills brought on by socialism. It would be painful, but if so, then who can deny the possibility that there might yet be a traditionalist-dominated parcel to form out of what's left of the United States.
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I'm forced to agree that the projections look lousy, and this eventuality would be ugly. However, one never can be sure about such projections. For instance, we're assuming that the United States stays intact. There's no shortage of international observers (many in the Kremlin, for instance) who predict that the United States will break into pieces, and not long from now. And if that happens, then all demographic projections are out the window.
At first, I thought that any talk of secession was silly, and I would still call that quite unlikely. But impossible? If there's an economic collapse, then it's my opinion that a break-up of the United States will be inevitable. The reddest and rural of the red states are not going to succumb to communism as a cure for ills brought on by socialism. It would be painful, but if so, then who can deny the possibility that there might yet be a traditionalist-dominated parcel to form out of what's left of the United States.
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Yes, history is quite tough to predict. And when out country starts going the way of Greece... things may take a turn in an unpredictable way.
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I'm forced to agree that the projections look lousy, and this eventuality would be ugly. However, one never can be sure about such projections. For instance, we're assuming that the United States stays intact. There's no shortage of international observers (many in the Kremlin, for instance) who predict that the United States will break into pieces, and not long from now. And if that happens, then all demographic projections are out the window.
At first, I thought that any talk of secession was silly, and I would still call that quite unlikely. But impossible? If there's an economic collapse, then it's my opinion that a break-up of the United States will be inevitable. The reddest and rural of the red states are not going to succumb to communism as a cure for ills brought on by socialism. It would be painful, but if so, then who can deny the possibility that there might yet be a traditionalist-dominated parcel to form out of what's left of the United States.
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The only solution to the US' economic problems is a breakup and people must spread the concept so it becomes a national talking quickly. Unfortunately, jewish people may not be welcome in a 'no immigration policy' state because jews; as pioneers of liberalism and black rights, will be perceived as core to the current problems in the US
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The only solution to the US' economic problems is a breakup and people must spread the concept so it becomes a national talking quickly. Unfortunately, jewish people may not be welcome in a 'no immigration policy' state because jews; as pioneers of liberalism and black rights, will be perceived as core to the current problems in the US
As a Jew, I would understand that completely. I would like if they would allow me to stay though, but I shouldn't be here anyway. (and it's the liberal Jews that are the problem, not traditional Jews).
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I'd like to add. That I never understood why hispanics would support illegal immigration.
Why would you want USA to become the same horrible country you've ran away from, which will happen when Hispanics become a majority.
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The only solution to the US' economic problems is a breakup and people must spread the concept so it becomes a national talking quickly. Unfortunately, jewish people may not be welcome in a 'no immigration policy' state because jews; as pioneers of liberalism and black rights, will be perceived as core to the current problems in the US
80% of jews support Obama, so the white gentiles think "the jews" support Obama as well as many policies which discriminate against and otherwise hurt whites...and they are not really wrong, unfortunately.
I can't talk to most jews about politics anymore. they are not reachable or rational.
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I'd like to add. That I never understood why hispanics would support illegal immigration.
Why would you want USA to become the same horrible country you've ran away from, which will happen when Hispanics become a majority.
I concur wholeheartedly. I mean why would American born Hispanics support this? I know there are good Hispanics out there who no not agree with this though.
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I'd like to add. That I never understood why hispanics would support illegal immigration.
Why would you want USA to become the same horrible country you've ran away from, which will happen when Hispanics become a majority.
Well, people who vote democrat don't really care about the future of America--only about getting more free stuff in the immediate future. They support illegal immigration and amnesty so they can have more "brothers" who will stick together with them against whitey and help them vote to get more free stuff.