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Title: MSNBC: Kids don't belong to their parents, they belong to the "community"
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on April 14, 2013, 12:09:16 AM
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Title: Re: MSNBC: Kids don't belong to their parents, they belong to the "community"
Post by: Debbie Shafer on April 14, 2013, 07:57:39 AM
The Socialist state is all, and this is part of the propaganda push.  We conceived, and bore them.. but its up to the government to rear them.  Its none of their business, they don't take care of them when they're sick or hurt, or genuinely care for the children.  This socialist utopia should minds its own business, let the schools teach reading, writting, arithmatic and real history and leave the parenting up to the biological parents.  More attacks on the Family!  People need be reminded of this every day.
Title: Re: MSNBC: Kids don't belong to their parents, they belong to the "community"
Post by: muman613 on April 16, 2013, 07:19:06 PM
Sounds exactly like Hitler Youth propaganda to me..
Title: Re: MSNBC: Kids don't belong to their parents, they belong to the "community"
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on April 20, 2013, 09:59:01 PM
It's like kids on kibbutzim used to live in a house for all the kids of the kibbutz and not with their parents.

Title: Re: MSNBC: Kids don't belong to their parents, they belong to the "community"
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on April 20, 2013, 10:06:58 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibbutz_communal_child_rearing_and_collective_education

Psychological aspects
 
Emotional involvement
 
Three researchers who wrote about psychological life on kibbutzim were Melford E. Spiro (1958), Bruno Bettelheim (1969) and Michael Baizerman (1963). All concluded that a kibbutz upbringing led to individuals' having greater difficulty in making strong emotional commitments thereafter, such as falling in love or forming a lasting friendship. On the other hand, they appear to find it easier to have a large number of less-involved friendships, and a more active social life.
 
Some researchers came to a conclusion that children growing up in these tightly knit communities tended to see the other children around them as ersatz siblings and preferred to seek mates outside the community when they reached maturity. Some theorize that living amongst one another on a daily basis virtually from birth on produced an extreme version of the Westermarck effect, which diminished teenage kibbutzniks' sexual attraction to one another. Partly as a result of not finding a mate from within the kibbutz, youth often abandon kibbutz life as adults.
 

Title: Re: MSNBC: Kids don't belong to their parents, they belong to the "community"
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on April 20, 2013, 10:13:57 PM
It's like kids on kibbutzim used to live in a house for all the kids of the kibbutz and not with their parents.
Are you comparing kibbutzim to Nazism? Lbh nagv wgs shpx!
Title: Re: MSNBC: Kids don't belong to their parents, they belong to the "community"
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on April 20, 2013, 10:40:26 PM
Are you comparing kibbutzim to Nazism? Lbh nagv wgs shpx!


No, I'm comparing it to Socialism. It is Socialism so it's not just comparing. Israeli kibbutzim had children homes and they didn't sleep in the same house as their parents. Left Wing Kibbutzim are a form of Socialism (The Soviet type.). Nazism is a different type of Socialism (The racial type).

Title: Re: MSNBC: Kids don't belong to their parents, they belong to the "community"
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on April 20, 2013, 10:51:53 PM


No, I'm comparing it to Socialism. It is Socialism so it's not just comparing. Israeli kibbutzim had children homes and they didn't sleep in the same house as their parents. Left Wing Kibbutzim are a form of Socialism (The Soviet type.). Nazism is a different type of Socialism (The racial type).
You know what else started as communalism, the 13 colonies. They learned their lesson, which led to a free nation! You are a troll, yup I said it!
Title: Re: MSNBC: Kids don't belong to their parents, they belong to the "community"
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on April 21, 2013, 03:07:17 AM
You know what else started as communalism, the 13 colonies. They learned their lesson, which led to a free nation! You are a troll, yup I said it!


Chaim has said how the Socialists in Israel were self-hating Jews and even included Ben-Gurion and the Labor Zionists and he even said Yimach Shemo.

Title: Re: MSNBC: Kids don't belong to their parents, they belong to the "community"
Post by: Shlomo on April 21, 2013, 03:52:59 PM
I'm also reading in the news how, again, MSNBC's Melissa Harris-Perry (the same one in the video) also says jihad (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3010564/posts) had nothing to do with the Boston terror attack.

She also said (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbc-host-911-response-was-horrific-racial-violence-directed-at-americas-non-white-racial-enemies/):

MSNBC Host Melissa Harris-Perry, speaking at a Washington D.C. conference on Monday, called America’s response to 9/11 “horrific racial violence” and a reaction to what Americans typically need in the wake of events like September 11th, an “imagined racial enemy.” She went on to say that Americans derive their notions of national security through how they view “whiteness” and “who are our racial enemies that are the non-whites.”

Just unbelievable. And this is the leftist "news" on MSNBC.
Title: Re: MSNBC: Kids don't belong to their parents, they belong to the "community"
Post by: Debbie Shafer on April 24, 2013, 12:24:35 PM
Another bunch of Propagandist crap...Mind their own business, children are not the government'swards or the communities! 
Title: Re: MSNBC: Kids don't belong to their parents, they belong to the "community"
Post by: Nachus on April 25, 2013, 01:07:44 AM
 :usa+israel:                                                                                                    :fist:


 This is a really crazy position to take on this issue, it's an awful collectivist mentality.