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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rubystars on June 06, 2013, 12:50:50 PM
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Apparently one of the Muslims at my job was trying to talk to people about Islam. I told him one of the biggest problems I have with Islam is what Mohammed did with Aisha when she was just a little girl and he was an older man.
He said "No, Aisha wasn't the little one, Aisha was older than him". I said "you're thinking of Khadija, his first wife" and he said "yes Khadija". I said "Aisha was the little one". He kept denying it, and said that Mohammed didn't force her and she was 16 when he had sex with her. I said "He married her when she was 6 and had sex with her when she was 8" and he denied it. Finally I got him to admit there was a younger wife but he claimed to not remember her name and it definitely wasn't Aisha.
Is this guy using Taqqiyah or just stupid?
I'm going to try to avoid this subject with him from now on. My other coworker told me it was funny because it seemed that I knew more about Islam than the Muslim did.
He said he wasn't offended and things seemed ok when we left. I wouldn't have talked about any of this at all if he wasn't going around trying to convert people to Islam. The subject was brought to me first. It's hard for me to hide my anger about Islam. I wanted to tell him that I learned all I needed to know about Islam from 9/11 and the Boston bombings, but I did hold back on that.
For some reason when I was talking to this Muslim I was thinking about Jonathan Uman and how unfair it was what happened to him and how evil Islam is for killing people like him that were loved by their families, and how Islam is still killing and mutilating people all over the world. It really put an intensity into my feelings thinking about all the victims and him in particular and how wrong it was and how wrong Islam is.
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He can complain and get you fired, or tell his unholy brothers to kill you. Secretly cover his chair in pig blood until he leaves.
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He was practicing taqqiya because he kept on changing the facts according to him.
Best to not get into it especially during work time. They may favor the Muslim over you.
Secondly if he is trying to convert people and it bothers you, bring it up quietly with your manager and tell me to keep it anonymous if you can trust him.
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He was practicing taqiyah and also being a dumb muslim.
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Apparently one of the Muslims at my job was trying to talk to people about Islam. I told him one of the biggest problems I have with Islam is what Mohammed did with Aisha when she was just a little girl and he was an older man.
He said "No, Aisha wasn't the little one, Aisha was older than him". I said "you're thinking of Khadija, his first wife" and he said "yes Khadija". I said "Aisha was the little one". He kept denying it, and said that Mohammed didn't force her and she was 16 when he had sex with her. I said "He married her when she was 6 and had sex with her when she was 8" and he denied it. Finally I got him to admit there was a younger wife but he claimed to not remember her name and it definitely wasn't Aisha.
Is this guy using Taqqiyah or just stupid?
I'm going to try to avoid this subject with him from now on. My other coworker told me it was funny because it seemed that I knew more about Islam than the Muslim did.
He said he wasn't offended and things seemed ok when we left. I wouldn't have talked about any of this at all if he wasn't going around trying to convert people to Islam. The subject was brought to me first. It's hard for me to hide my anger about Islam. I wanted to tell him that I learned all I needed to know about Islam from 9/11 and the Boston bombings, but I did hold back on that.
For some reason when I was talking to this Muslim I was thinking about Jonathan Uman and how unfair it was what happened to him and how evil Islam is for killing people like him that were loved by their families, and how Islam is still killing and mutilating people all over the world. It really put an intensity into my feelings thinking about all the victims and him in particular and how wrong it was and how wrong Islam is.
Thank you RubyStars...
I keep photos of my brother, and his memorials, on my cube to remind me to never submit to their lies...
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You're welcome Muman.
Also thank you everyone else for replying.
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Taqqiyah, no... This guy knows that the truth is realy painfull, and there is no way out for him then accept this facts.
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Muslims lie but this one seems dumb
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Apparently one of the Muslims at my job was trying to talk to people about Islam. I told him one of the biggest problems I have with Islam is what Mohammed did with Aisha when she was just a little girl and he was an older man.
He said "No, Aisha wasn't the little one, Aisha was older than him". I said "you're thinking of Khadija, his first wife" and he said "yes Khadija". I said "Aisha was the little one". He kept denying it, and said that Mohammed didn't force her and she was 16 when he had sex with her. I said "He married her when she was 6 and had sex with her when she was 8" and he denied it. Finally I got him to admit there was a younger wife but he claimed to not remember her name and it definitely wasn't Aisha.
Is this guy using Taqqiyah or just stupid?
I'm going to try to avoid this subject with him from now on. My other coworker told me it was funny because it seemed that I knew more about Islam than the Muslim did.
He said he wasn't offended and things seemed ok when we left. I wouldn't have talked about any of this at all if he wasn't going around trying to convert people to Islam. The subject was brought to me first. It's hard for me to hide my anger about Islam. I wanted to tell him that I learned all I needed to know about Islam from 9/11 and the Boston bombings, but I did hold back on that.
For some reason when I was talking to this Muslim I was thinking about Jonathan Uman and how unfair it was what happened to him and how evil Islam is for killing people like him that were loved by their families, and how Islam is still killing and mutilating people all over the world. It really put an intensity into my feelings thinking about all the victims and him in particular and how wrong it was and how wrong Islam is.
Well, any time a Muslim talks about the Koran to others to get them interested in Islam, it is a form of Taqiya because there is no way to make the unappealing and disgusting into something appealing to others except by lying about it.
It could very well be that he is not aware of what the koranic sources actually say and he doesn't really know what Muhammad did because he was brainwashed to think otherwise. Can he even read arabic? If he can, you could encourage him to read about Aisha and see that you're right. If he doesn't read arabic fluently then he's definitely just brainwashed. If he is fluent in arabic and knows Islam well, then he's simply lying. But it could be some mix of the two.
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He told me there was a ratio of 3 women to every 1 man in the world so that's why polygamy was wise, and I told him that was wrong as far as the gender ratio goes, and he said he was going to look up the statistics and show me. He got out his phone and started to look it up and then made a frustrated face and went on to another subject. I'm not ruling out him being stupid/brainwashed at all here. :::D
Thanks for the great post KWRBT. I think you make some good points.
I'd rather not discuss the issue at all with him again. I did tell him that I did think it was good that Muslims believed in marriage before having relations and not living together beforehand, but that there was a lot about Islam that I could never agree with and that I'm never going to be a Muslim.
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He told me there was a ratio of 3 women to every 1 man in the world so that's why polygamy was wise, and I told him that was wrong as far as the gender ratio goes, and he said he was going to look up the statistics and show me. He got out his phone and started to look it up and then made a frustrated face and went on to another subject. I'm not ruling out him being stupid/brainwashed at all here. :::D
Thanks for the great post KWRBT. I think you make some good points.
I'd rather not discuss the issue at all with him again. I did tell him that I did think it was good that Muslims believed in marriage before having relations and not living together beforehand, but that there was a lot about Islam that I could never agree with and that I'm never going to be a Muslim.
There are about 1.1 women for every man. Do you know smart, unbrainwashed muzzrats?
Here's a coffee mug pic for him (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/931251_490688054319845_1183411070_n.png)
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He's in denial, therefore stupid.
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He might just be confused. You'd be surprised at how few Muslims actually know what is in the Koran. But Mohammed had a second child bride besides Aisha who is nameless though she was a kidnapped Coptic girl. So its possible the Muzzie was getting confused because of that.
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He might just be confused. You'd be surprised at how few Muslims actually know what is in the Koran. But Mohammed had a second child bride besides Aisha who is nameless though she was a kidnapped Coptic girl. So its possible the Muzzie was getting confused because of that.
What was really funny was when he got Aisha and Khadija mixed up though. That's interesting. I didn't know about the Coptic girl.
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I did tell him that I did think it was good that Muslims believed in marriage
NOT REALLY YOU CAN HAVE A TEMPORARY MARRIAGE AND ONLY BE MARRIED 1 HR FOR SEX
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NOT REALLY YOU CAN HAVE A TEMPORARY MARRIAGE AND ONLY BE MARRIED 1 HR FOR SEX
Shiite Islam permits this form of prostitution. Sunni Islam doesn't, that's why for example in Afghanistan they prefer to rape little boys because girls are really expensive since they must marry them for real.
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I've heard of the Shi'ite temporary marriage before too. Islam is full of sickness.