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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Israel Chai on June 06, 2013, 10:25:50 PM
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28 November 2012
"Tommy" charged with fraud
Luton Today: EDL leaders charged with mortgage fraud
Makes you wonder where all the money donated to the English Defence League cause over the past few years has ended up?
The money was definitely not used constructively that's for sure.
This fraud stems from him trying to hide the proceeds of his cocaine dealing operation, with the drugs he sold being supplied by the Pakistani moslem drug gangs in Luton who he works/worked for.
Everyone on street level from the area knows the truth...its common knowledge on the streets. Those who do not live in and around Luton, Dunstable and surrounding areas cannot pass a comment on a subject they know nothing about.
Notice how its his brother in-law on the drugs charge and not him.
Quote: Stephen Vowles, 24, of Heron Drive, Luton, with two counts of conspiracy to commit fraud by false representation in relation to a mortgage application, two counts of false accounting, possession of cocaine with intent to supply, being concerned in the supply of class A drugs to another, and money laundering:
This charge all stems from the points in the video below, and word is that he also sold out the young guy who is currently serving a long sentence for cocaine and firearms mentioned at the end of the video.
He also sold out the identities of 53 of his most loyal followers by throwing them into a removals van and driving straight into a police sting operation before being remanded.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79WBz0Xddwo&feature=player_embedded
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Interestingly, Tommy Robinson was interviewed by Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IOvluK_EWc
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The guy who posted it is an extreme leftist just look at his page and links.You know what i find amazing is that they're always after Tommy Robinson but never the nazi BNP. Maybe they worry about the EDL
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They are phony right wing but I don't think they are Nazis or involved in the paki drug trade, that sounds insane.
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Who else is confronting islam in Britain?
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Who else is confronting islam in Britain?
JDL-UK
http://www.jdl-uk.org/
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They aren't Nazis, you have no idea what your talking about. Tommy is a good guy, he's very pro-Israel, and he worked tirelessly to throw out nazi-sympathizers at the EDL. I'm sorry to all my fellow JTFers including Chaim, but I think youve got the EDL all wrong
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They aren't Nazis, you have no idea what your talking about. Tommy is a good guy, he's very pro-Israel, and he worked tirelessly to throw out nazi-sympathizers at the EDL. I'm sorry to all my fellow JTFers including Chaim, but I think youve got the EDL all wrong
They called JTF a terrorist organisation, specifically accusing Chaim of being a terrorist. So who got whom wrong ?
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They called JTF a terrorist organisation, specifically accusing Chaim of being a terrorist. So who got whom wrong ?
I obviously don't agree with them on that, but I still think Tommy is a good guy and the EDL is a genuinely pro-Israel movement. They were being politically correct, which is unfortunate
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I obviously don't agree with them on that, but I still think Tommy is a good guy and the EDL is a genuinely pro-Israel movement. They were being politically correct, which is unfortunate
Well then lets hope he wises up.
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So the whole EDL is nazi now? You are realy stupid....
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They are phony right wing but I don't think they are Nazis or involved in the paki drug trade, that sounds insane.
The EDL has nothing to do with Nazism... Even some Jews on this forum are saying this, but thats rubbish. Ive met Tommy ones, he seems like a great guy, but a lot of people are talking about his drugs connections...
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JDL-UK
http://www.jdl-uk.org/
Tell me, what are they doing excectly? What about nothing? By the way, i have nothing against the JDL!
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They called JTF a terrorist organisation, specifically accusing Chaim of being a terrorist. So who got whom wrong ?
Who are 'they'? The EDL has tens of thousands of members and supporters... So they are bad, and they are nazi's, because they called the JTF a terrorist group? Oh My God....
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Who are 'they'? The EDL has tens of thousands of members and supporters... So they are bad, and they are nazi's, because they called the JTF a terrorist group? Oh My God....
No because there are Nazis in the movement who hate Jews. Don't give me the "you said all EDL are the same" crap. A prominent JTF member also left their group because of the Nazi elements in it.
One way or another, they're a bunch of politically correct phonies that serve as a place for all the anger against muslims in the UK to go and then do nothing with. What political party do they support? Politicians? Have they retaliated against any muzzrat atrocity?
I commend them on their lovely little marches. If they don't want to actually enter politics, they better get the book on violence, or they will have no power or influence.
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Who are 'they'? The EDL has tens of thousands of members and supporters... So they are bad, and they are nazi's, because they called the JTF a terrorist group? Oh My God....
I didn't say they are Nazis, read more carefully what they wrote.
Their slander against Chaim Ben Pesach was on their official facebook page, so it is their "official" stand.
There were no names behind the declaration for whatever weird reason, but if it's on the official page, and Mr Robinson never said anything to contradict it, then it's his official position. There was no retraction from that slander.
JTF never did anything against the EDL. Initially there had been a Jewish branch in the EDL, which eventually became the JDL-UK, and they wanted to cooperate with JTF. But then the EDL pushed them out of the organisation and declared that there will be "no shared platform with terrorist JTF". And basically our answer to that is "f**k you very much, we don't need any cooperation with you EDL".
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No because there are Nazis in the movement who hate Jews. Don't give me the "you said all EDL are the same" crap. A prominent JTF member also left their group because of the Nazi elements in it.
One way or another, they're a bunch of politically correct phonies that serve as a place for all the anger against muslims in the UK to go and then do nothing with. What political party do they support? Politicians? Have they retaliated against any muzzrat atrocity?
I commend them on their lovely little marches. If they don't want to actually enter politics, they better get the book on violence, or they will have no power or influence.
the only nazis in the edl are either working for the police or put there by the bnp who are unhappy with the edl's success
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At one time English people showed real solidarity with us Serbs in WW1 when they donated the money and personal items to help us. Now I pray for their liberty....they are one big nation and if awaken enough can turn things around..
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At one time English people showed real solidarity with us Serbs in WW1 when they donated the money and personal items to help us. Now I pray for their liberty....they are one big nation and if awaken enough can turn things around..
England will not turn around. Both politicians and police are corrupt and pro-islam to the core.
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The guy who posted it is an extreme leftist just look at his page and links.You know what i find amazing is that they're always after Tommy Robinson but never the nazi BNP. Maybe they worry about the EDL
They know the bnp are socialists and that they will never get to real power.
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They aren't Nazis, you have no idea what your talking about. Tommy is a good guy, he's very pro-Israel, and he worked tirelessly to throw out nazi-sympathizers at the EDL. I'm sorry to all my fellow JTFers including Chaim, but I think youve got the EDL all wrong
Tommy has a nazi 'personal assistant' called hel gower who has harrassed and alienated scores of genuine patriots and tommy refuses to throw her out.
Tommy himself has also repeatedly betrayed people that have helped him and who were loyal to him because he is scared of what the 'media' will say.
What the police are doing to him is disgraceful, but I cannot find sympathy for him. It was exposed that Tommy figured he could get 'funding' from a Zionist organisation from America and that that is why he wanted an alliance. Then when people started accusing him of cooperating with a 'terrorist' organisation he backed down and his 'assistants' brought out stories that the whole idea came from Roberta. It was actually me who proposed the idea to her to benefit JTF. Tommy never withdrew anything and always listened to his poor 'advicers'.
There are nazi elements in the edl and tommy has failed to throw them all out. A year ago on an edl demo a man in his 70's walking with an Israeli flag was nearly attacked if his son would not have been there.
The edl could have been something big but tommy screwed it up.
Even after they put out a statement denouncing alan lake, they called him up to ask if they could borrow his megaphone. Thats just insane.
The edl is all england has got, but the mistakes made by tommy need to be known.
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I think the main point that needs to be made here is:
There is no purpose in promoting the edl on this forum.