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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Binyamin Yisrael on August 11, 2013, 10:39:31 PM
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This Earthquake destroyed the city. I don't think there were fags there back then. But the city should repent, otherwise it may face such a disaster in the future. An Earthquake was also involved in the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, on the Dead Sea fault line.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1906_San_Francisco_earthquake
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This Earthquake destroyed the city. I don't think there were fags there back then. But the city should repent, otherwise it may face such a disaster in the future. An Earthquake was also involved in the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, on the Dead Sea fault line.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1906_San_Francisco_earthquake
No place is safe from disaster. I live in the SF Bay Area and I pray every day that we are protected. You do realize that there are at least 10 righteous individuals in this Bay Area. I am willing to say there are more than 10 righteous individuals in this area. I hope that all those perverts who call SF home will wake up to the realization that they are wrong, but it may not be the case, and indeed they will bring suffering to even the righteous. But I pray for them to turn around rather than curse the entire bay area.
Other regions have tornadoes, others hurricanes, and others tsunamis and sink-holes, avalanches and freak floods. If Hashem were to implement strict justice what country or person would be left standing?
Pray for the destruction of evil...
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Yes, I agree with that Muman said. There are more than enough righteous people that there won't be a terrible tragedy there.
Apart from that, there are 36 Tzadikim Nistarim in the world at all times.
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Oddly enough hurricane sandy ravaged southern manhattan and kept the lights out while northern manhattan was barely touched. Interestingly enough Chelsea, east and west village have a lot of homos and those areas were hit probably the worst.
Just sayin
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Hurricane Katrina also stopped a fag parade from taking place in New Orleans. It also punished the voodoo people. It is also well known that it was punishment to Bush and Condoleeza Rice for the Destruction of Gush Katif. Bush is from Texas and Condoleeza Rice was is from Mississippi. Louisiana is in between.
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Oddly enough hurricane sandy ravaged southern manhattan and kept the lights out while northern manhattan was barely touched. Interestingly enough Chelsea, east and west village have a lot of homos and those areas were hit probably the worst.
Just sayin
Kool, nice insights.
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In 1906 San Francisco hadn't been the Sodom it later turned into.
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Hurricane Katrina also stopped a fag parade from taking place in New Orleans. It also punished the voodoo people. It is also well known that it was punishment to Bush and Condoleeza Rice for the Destruction of Gush Katif. Bush is from Texas and Condoleeza Rice was is from Mississippi. Louisiana is in between.
Maybe it was retaliation for voting for David duke.
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These are volatile times, I say be saved and know the Lord.
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This Earthquake destroyed the city. I don't think there were fags there back then. But the city should repent, otherwise it may face such a disaster in the future. An Earthquake was also involved in the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, on the Dead Sea fault line.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1906_San_Francisco_earthquake
huh? reversed punishment?
punishment, then the crime?
let the crime fit the punishment!
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huh? reversed punishment?
punishment, then the crime?
let the crime fit the punishment!
No it does not work that way according to Jewish belief. One can only be punished for something which they have done, not something they are going to do in the future. This is the way Hashem created the world.
It was asked why was Ishmael not allowed to die when he was a child, when Hagar and Ishmael were sent out of Abrahams house and into the harsh desert. Ishmael was near death, and an angel came and saved him... Why wasn't he allowed to die then? Because, it is explained, we are never punished for something we will do in the future, only what we have actually done.
See http://www.tfdixie.com/parshat/vayeira/020.htm
Genesis 21:17
And G-d heard the voice of the lad (Ishmael) and an angel of G-d called to Hagar from the Heavens and said to her 'What is the matter, Hagar? Fear not for G-d has as heard the voice of the lad, as he is there.
RASHI
As he is there: Rashi: According to his actions that he does now is he judged., and not according to what he is destined to do in the future. . Because the ministering angels were arguing against (Ishmael) and saying 'Master of the universe, he (Ishmael ) whose offspring are destined to kill Your sons with thirst (lack of water), will You cause a well to rise up for him? And He answered them: At the present moment, what is he righteous or evil? They answered 'Righteous' So He said to them 'According to his deeds at the present time I judge him.' That is the meaning of the words "as he is (Now) there."
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No it does not work that way according to Jewish belief. One can only be punished for something which they have done, not something they are going to do in the future. This is the way Hashem created the world.
It was asked why was Ishmael not allowed to die when he was a child, when Hagar and Ishmael were sent out of Abrahams house and into the harsh desert. Ishmael was near death, and an angel came and saved him... Why wasn't he allowed to die then? Because, it is explained, we are never punished for something we will do in the future, only what we have actually done.
See http://www.tfdixie.com/parshat/vayeira/020.htm
Genesis 21:17
And G-d heard the voice of the lad (Ishmael) and an angel of G-d called to Hagar from the Heavens and said to her 'What is the matter, Hagar? Fear not for G-d has as heard the voice of the lad, as he is there.
RASHI
As he is there: Rashi: According to his actions that he does now is he judged., and not according to what he is destined to do in the future. . Because the ministering angels were arguing against (Ishmael) and saying 'Master of the universe, he (Ishmael ) whose offspring are destined to kill Your sons with thirst (lack of water), will You cause a well to rise up for him? And He answered them: At the present moment, what is he righteous or evil? They answered 'Righteous' So He said to them 'According to his deeds at the present time I judge him.' That is the meaning of the words "as he is (Now) there."
oi oi oi oi oi I was being sarcastic to the other person.
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oi oi oi oi oi I was being sarcastic to the other person.
Ok, I take it all back... Nothing to see here...
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I've actually heard that G-d doesn't think linerally and he knows the future. He is in the past, present, and future at all times just like he is present everywhere. I heard a shiur online once that said that G-d can punish people by putting them back in time as victims in the Holocaust. I didn't have any of that in mind with this thread. I just said it happened before and it can happen again if the people of San Francisco don't wake up.
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Ok, I take it all back... Nothing to see here...
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