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Title: Ted Cruz: "Ron Paul and Rand Paul have been clarion voices of liberty"
Post by: Rational Jew on October 12, 2013, 11:25:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahMp8faItA8&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Ted Cruz: "Ron Paul and Rand Paul have been clarion voices of liberty"
Post by: Irish Zionist on October 13, 2013, 05:57:04 AM
Well there goes my support for him.
I don't care who supports Ted Cruz now, it won't be me that's for sure.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz: "Ron Paul and Rand Paul have been clarion voices of liberty"
Post by: Rubystars on October 13, 2013, 07:45:27 AM
The Pauls do sometimes say really good things and this is what attracts conservatives who don't know the whole story to them.

Before I joined JTF and shortly after I came here, I too was swayed by some of the good things that the elder Paul was saying with regards to respecting the Constitution, getting away from the evil Federal Reserve, etc.

Chaim's videos showed me the evil/left wing aspects of them that I wasn't previously aware of. Plus there was that whole debacle with Ron Paul in a picture with Don and Derek Black at a party for donators.

The problem is that the Pauls are also Nazis that say some really bad things too, especially anti-Israel/anti-Semitic things. This video from Cruz troubles me a lot for that reason.

As I said before we need to really look in to Cruz's associations. The Goldman-Sachs connection probably bothers me the most.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz: "Ron Paul and Rand Paul have been clarion voices of liberty"
Post by: mord on October 13, 2013, 08:08:56 AM
The Pauls do sometimes say really good things and this is what attracts conservatives who don't know the whole story to them.

Before I joined JTF and shortly after I came here, I too was swayed by some of the good things that the elder Paul was saying with regards to respecting the Constitution, getting away from the evil Federal Reserve, etc.

Chaim's videos showed me the evil/left wing aspects of them that I wasn't previously aware of. Plus there was that whole debacle with Ron Paul in a picture with Don and Derek Black at a party for donators.

The problem is that the Pauls are also Nazis that say some really bad things too, especially anti-Israel/anti-Semitic things. This video from Cruz troubles me a lot for that reason.

As I said before we need to really look in to Cruz's associations. The Goldman-Sachs connection probably bothers me the most.
Derek Black is a leftist now just as bad as being a Nazi.He's now a member of SPLC
Title: Re: Ted Cruz: "Ron Paul and Rand Paul have been clarion voices of liberty"
Post by: Rubystars on October 13, 2013, 08:30:50 AM
Derek Black is a leftist now just as bad as being a Nazi.He's now a member of SPLC

I've actually suspected for quite a long time that the Black family was paid by the FBI to keep tabs on the WN movement.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz: "Ron Paul and Rand Paul have been clarion voices of liberty"
Post by: NoMosqueHere on October 13, 2013, 12:46:34 PM
No one's perfect and, after all, Cruz is a politician; and he probably has to make some concessions to the Paul crew.  But he will also most likely fight Rand Paul for the prez nomination so expect the gloves to come off between those two.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz: "Ron Paul and Rand Paul have been clarion voices of liberty"
Post by: Rubystars on October 13, 2013, 01:43:12 PM
He doesn't have to make any kind of concessions. He especially doesn't have to praise the Pauls so enthusiastically. The fact that we keep accepting pseudo conservatives who make concessions all the time is why we are in the situation we're in with such poor choices.

At the end of the day it may very well be that he's the best of a bad lot, but I don't want to put my full support behind this guy just yet.