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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Yerusha on December 08, 2013, 07:38:11 PM
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R.Kahane in the 60s & 70s was a firm believer in not buying Mercedes cars or taking German money.
But now that 70 years has past, presumably even Chaim wouldn't be averse to getting on a BMW motorbike.
To defend their gas fields the Israelis are buying for $$$ two German destroyers
http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Report-Germany-to-sell-Israel-2-battleships-for-1-billion-euros-334259
Looks like the Israelis have got a lot of work if they intend to fit their own electronics and missiles in to their new German boats.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sachsen-class_frigate
Would they have done better buying a pair of Type 45s, albeit double the price? Would the British have sold them to them?
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"taking German money"
Actually your wrong, he was for it. I remember listening in on one of his speeches that he was for taking the money that Germany owned Jews for the property that they looted.
And nothing wrong if necessary to buy weapons and such or technology if and when needed for Israel's defense. It depends if it is good for us or not, that is the bottom line.
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Maybe Israel can buy Nazi equipment, but they shouldn't! America too! Nothing pisses me off more than seeing an uppity leftist American in a BMW, or Mercedes!
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Begin's opposition to German reparations was one of the very few demos in Israeli history that actually turned violent
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reparations_Agreement_between_Israel_and_West_Germany
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The Midrash says that after he destroyed the Temple and slaughtered 1000s of Jews, the tyrant Nebuchadnezzar actually treated the survivors with generosity and gave them money thus delaying Babylon's destruction by a few decades, and it has been claimed that the Germans giving Israel money and weapons after the Holocaust has also temporarily averted Germany's annihilation, which is still pending!
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Yerusha- this is what Rav Kahane ZTL HYD say and you claimed the exact opposite (which often happens by you by the way)
"The Germans owe us reparations. The money does not absolve them of one sin, of one crime, of one murder. But they owe us reparations for property and we owe them nothing. Political and cultural ties will be cut with the Germans and they will be expected to fulfill, to the letter, their obligations to the Jewish people.[...] "
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:tX_VQi7r7T8J:meir-kahane.angelfire.com/zachor.html/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
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I don't have enough info yet regarding the Destroyers deal, but the Submarine Israel has acquired from Germany at a subsidized price are an essential weapon system that significantly enhances Israel's military capability. There really are no better alternative then buying these German subs, probably none actually.