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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dan Ben Noah on March 14, 2014, 10:39:40 AM
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Shalom
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There is no reason for you to talk this way. You don't just hate anti-Israel "Christians" and it's obvious. In fact I think you are more against us than the actual Jew-haters.
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There is no reason for you to talk this way. You don't just hate anti-Israel "Christians" and it's obvious. In fact I think you are more against us than the actual Jew-haters.
Woah, weren't you the one who for several weeks posted threads about pope Francis and his gay agenda? Now you are defending him?
I don't think Dan Ben Noah hates Christians. He is pointing out how the church is going down the path of paganism..
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I think you know what I'm talking about.
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I agree, some in the churches are lukewarm...they sit in church and listen to the pastor or pope, but they do not obey God's word. The net draws the fish....all the Christians, but the fish will be separated from the net by the Lord, who knows their hearts, the false from the true.....having a form of Godliness, but refusing to believe the true power!
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Homosexuality is "diversity"?? Are murderers and transgender diversity also?
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Dan, do you think that average right-leaning Gentiles, including Ann Barnhardt (who is a very devout and proud Catholic as you pointed out), would take a forum seriously in which the admins speak of "the Yoshkeloid" and say that the Apostle Paul distorts the Bible? Does that help out our movement?
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I'm Catholic. I'll always be Catholic. But nonetheless, there *is* the smoke of Satan within the Church. 'Nuff said.
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Dan, look at this. Honestly. Take a step back and try think of this as an outsider. Do you expect something like 85% of Americans (by birth) to not see these as insults? There are not that many right-wing Jews in the Western world and fewer Noahides. Where do you think the vast majority of our support in the West will come from? Is insulting the one group of people that (usually) supports Israel the best way to go about this?
Chaim has stated several times that there is no preaching/religious proselytizing on this forum, and you have admitted that you are doing exactly this. Either the rules have changed, or the rules do not always mean a whole lot to some people. Which is it? Do we want to have a JTF that is a mass movement, or another clone of the Guzofsky/Axelrod "forums" that nobody takes seriously?
Of course there is a need to attack evil "Christian" leaders and their policies--something I've done more than just about anybody--but does constantly trying to imply that the anti-Semites/replacement theologians are the real, genuine, theologically-correct, true-to-their-faith NT Christians and that the Christian Zionists are simply well-meaning Gentiles that don't really understand or practice their own religion properly or historically really accomplish that effectively?
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I think sincere people don't like to see constant insults or implications that they are religiously ignorant. What do you say we ask Chaim?
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Saying that Jesus would approve of homosexuality is "straight talk" and part of JTF's mission?
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Dan, using strong language with your navy co-workers who I presume, you've worked with in all kinds of stressful situations, and have known for a long time is different than a forum.
Your fellow navy/military people know you and the kind of work you do. And I think it's safe to say you've been through a lot together. They can see your facial expressions and body language. Whereas on this forum, the only thing that people have to go by is your words. Also, you haven't met that many of us in person either.
Now you're a Noahide, and I know you wish to eventually convert to Orthodox Judaism. So I'm glad you've found a spiritual path that gives you solace and happiness.
On the other hand, we've had Christians here from the very beginning. They are, and have always been welcome here, which is why Shlomo always says in his videos that you don't have to be Jewish to join JTF.
So when it comes to Judaism vs. Christianity, can I ask you to please agree to disagree on some issues. (In fact, I think this should be the case with everyone, which is why I always post it.) You are an awesome admin. And LSDBR is an awesome member. I don't want to see you two fighting.
Dan you're also an excellent writer. You can surely make your point about the church becoming PC and accepting homosexuality without posting that Jesus condoned the practice. Both religions technically are in agreement about homosexuality. The issue is with the pc priests and left so-called rabbis.
Now on another note, I want to add something about Jews using names of the deities of other religions. I was listening to a lecture on TorahAnytime.com about this. According to the rabbi giving the speech, you actually are allowed to use the individual's name, because of it being their name. But you're not allowed to use any kind of title along with the name that denotes divinity. Some Jews don't even use the given names. The rabbi went on to say that you follow the customs of the Jewish community you live in.
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You made a word play with "bind and to loose." And I've never read the NT. So I'm just saying what my impression was.
Anyway, if you're going to disagree please keep it cordial.