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Far Right-Winger Geert Wilders Dumped From Dutch Anti-Semitism Push
Name Scratched From Petition in Newspaper Ad
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Dutch Right-Winger Geert Wilders Loses Backing of Jews
Dutch Leader Geert Wilders Slammed as New 'Hitler' for 'Fewer Moroccans' Remark
Amsterdam — A Dutch Jewish group dropped the politician Geert Wilders from a petition against anti-Semitism.
The Center for Information and Documentation on Israel, or CIDI, had approached Wilders for his signature along with other well-known Dutchmen. But the group dropped Wilders’ name when the petition appeared on Thursday as a full-page ad in De Telegraaf daily.
“In the Netherlands, everyone must live safely, also Jews,” read the petition.
The petition noted that it was not an “expression of solidarity with Israel’s government.” Rather, the 86 signatories said: “Criticism on Israel? Okay. Jew-hatred? No way.”
CIDI director Esther Voet told the Volkskrant daily that Wilders, the leader of the far-right Party for Freedom, was removed after he criticized a joint declaration earlier this week by Jewish community representatives and Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte.
In an open letter this week, Wilders accused Rutte of ignoring “the elephant in the room,” adding: “You fear Islam so you will not say what everybody knows: The more Islam grows in the Netherlands, the more anti-Semitism grows.”
Released amid an elevated level of anti-Semitic incidents coinciding with Israel’s actions in Gaza, the Aug. 4 declaration read: “Conflict occurring elsewhere must not lead to tension and conflicts between various groups in the Dutch society.”
The statement did not mention Israel, but it did praise a Muslim group’s call for tolerance.
CIDI wrote in a statement that Wilders’ name was removed because his letter “did exactly what concerns the people who made the declaration, namely importing the Middle East conflict” to Holland.
Voet also told Dutch media that 70 percent of anti-Semitic incidents were caused by immigrants, though she did not know their religion.
Wilders lived in Israel for two years and is a staunch supporter of the Jewish state. He is also outspoken in his opposition to Islam and recently caused controversy when he suggested Holland should have “fewer Moroccans.”
Federative Jewish Netherlands, a small right-wing Jewish group, criticized CIDI’s actions and called on it to apologize to Wilders, whom it thanked for his efforts on behalf of Israel and Dutch Jewry.
Read more: http://forward.com/articles/203761/far-right-winger-geert-wilders-dumped-from-dutch-a/#ixzz39oSwgz42
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How dare this Jewish traitors reject someone like Geert Wilders?? Are they [censored] mad? He and his party are the ONLY ones in Holland that actually try to protect the Jewish from violent muslims!
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CIDI is controlled by labour. Ronny Naftaniel one time told protesters at a demo to put those Israeli flags away.
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Sound like American Jews.
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Pathetic ingrates, Semitic swine.
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Apparently Austrian Jews are the same, because the Freedom Party of Austria, the only party in the country which supports Israel, was also the only one to denounce the protest by Turkish invaders and Austrian communist garbage against Israel, yet for some reason, the stupid leftist yids in Vienna wrote a f*cking letter to Ayoob Kara demanding that he end the relations between Israel and the FPÖ (Freedom Party of Austria). I sincerely hope that these obnoxious commie kikes in Austria and Holland get a taste of the Islamic barbarism which they brought into their country before the FPÖ and fellow Austrian patriots, as well as PVV and fellow Dutch patriots, cleanse the Islamic virus from their country.
I hope Geert Wilders realizes that many Jews, especially Israelis, don't think like the scum in his country. Thank God he's still on our side and supporting Israel.
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Meanwhile while these scum are busy burning bridges for the rest of us Jews:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.nu.nl/politiek/3847076/nederland-moet-achter-israel-blijven-staan.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dgeert%2Bwilders%2Bisrael%26client%3Dsafari%26sa%3DX%26rls%3Den%26biw%3D1439%26bih%3D677%26tbs%3Dqdr:m
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Sorry about the last post, Gates of Vienna has it translated:
http://gatesofvienna.net/2014/08/geert-wilders-now-is-the-time-for-the-netherlands-to-stand-with-israel/
One worrying little bit:
As far as I’m concerned, we stand unconditionally behind Israel in this fight, but of course not behind everything Israel does. That would be ridiculous.
Wow. Even Geert Wilders is now criticizing Israel. That is very, very worrying.
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This is brilliant! Geert Wilders is a true friend. Why would he support suicidal tendencies that Israel exhibits time and time again? I am sure that what he meant.
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This is brilliant! Geert Wilders is a true friend. Why would he support suicidal tendencies that Israel exhibits time and time again? I am sure that what he meant.
He's probably trying to distance himself from what he sees as an ungrateful Zionist movement. I don't understand. I thought he wasn't going to break despite all the hatred from the commie kikes but I was wrong. Soon he'll be silent completely or switch to the Palestinian side like many right-wing "Islamophobes" in Europe, such as Nazine le Pen, Nick Griffin, etc. I have to say I'm sorely disappointed. Timo Soini, arguably Finland's most pro-Israel politician, defended Israel's actions in the West Bank but still made sure to express that he's a 'two-stater'. I can't seem to find that in this article though. But I don't understand Finnish politics. So someone can accuse Israel of "genocide", but make a statement in support of Israel and you're attacked by official government spokespeople?
http://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/politics/11430-jaakonsaari-bemused-by-soini-s-comments-on-israel.html?ref=uutiskirje
This [censored] also said:
It's rather strange for the chairperson of the Foreign Affairs Committee to make such extreme statements,” Jaakonsaari commented to Helsingin Sanomat. “Also Soini will surely be held accountable for his statements.
So you can HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE for making statements in support of Israel in Finland? Amazing.
On the other hand it seems a good deal of Finns support Israel before anyone makes comments about Finland being "Nazi" or anything, it's just that their cowardly scum politicians ignore public opinion.
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Just look at the hatred in this ugly communazi b!tch's face:
(http://www.helsinkitimes.fi/images/2014/aug/jaakonsaari-soini.jpg)
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I also found this gem of a channel on YouTube, apparently it's a Finnish guy.
http://www.youtube.com/user/NorthernIslamophobe
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Ofcourse he doesnt agree with everythig Israel does.... I don't agree with everything Israel does... Do you? Read his book. There you will find out everything about his personal life and about his love for Israel. Geert Wilders is not that diffrent from the JTF believe me. Here a link to his book (it's in English):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/huc/view.html?ie=UTF8&newItems=C2Z3NRUTRXVFWI%2C1
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Ofcourse he doesnt agree with everythig Israel does.... I don't agree with everything Israel does... Do you? Read his book. There you will find out everything about his personal life and about his love for Israel. Geert Wilders is not that diffrent from the JTF believe me. Here a link to his book (it's in English):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/huc/view.html?ie=UTF8&newItems=C2Z3NRUTRXVFWI%2C1
What do you disagree about? Of course their traitorous government, I think everyone on this forum does as well, but hopefully not anything in Gaza
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This is a great illustration of why history often repeats itself!
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This is a great illustration of why history often repeats itself!
Now that the Islamic plague has infiltrated Europe, if it is not thrown out (and if the patriotic movements don't have Jewish backing then they will be seen as worthless as the people most threatened aren't supported) then yes, it will repeat itself.
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Now that the Islamic plague has infiltrated Europe, if it is not thrown out (and if the patriotic movements don't have Jewish backing then they will be seen as worthless as the people most threatened aren't supported) then yes, it will repeat itself.
It's indeed a very dangerous situation.
Liberalism is what led to the Muslims flooding Europe in the first place. Righteous people, regardless of their religion, need to support those willing to speak the truth about Islam and its supporters.
Geert Wilders has put his neck on the line. As long as he supports Israel to the point that he opposes the so called two state solution and feels that Israel shouldn't have any restrictions in defending itself, he has my support.
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Most Jews in America are also left wing swine,they voted for Barack HUSSEIN Obama didn't they?
>:(
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It's indeed a very dangerous situation.
Liberalism is what led to the Muslims flooding Europe in the first place. Righteous people, regardless of their religion, need to support those willing to speak the truth about Islam and its supporters.
Geert Wilders has put his neck on the line. As long as he supports Israel to the point that he opposes the so called two state solution and feels that Israel shouldn't have any restrictions in defending itself, he has my support.
You know, I think we should make a list of political parties in Europe and America which support Israel and are against Islamists. In my country, there is only one such party.
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What do you disagree about? Of course their traitorous government, I think everyone on this forum does as well, but hopefully not anything in Gaza
What do you mean? I think nobody agrees with everything. Israel is not doing things ofcourse... The people and the politicians doing things. Everything should be critisized when we need to. Geert Wilders did not critisized Israel by the way. Why do you think so?
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What do you mean? I think nobody agrees with everything. Israel is not doing things ofcourse... The people and the politicians doing things. Everything should be critisized when we need to. Geert Wilders did not critisized Israel by the way. Why do you think so?
But I think when he said "not everything Israel does" he means he has questions over Israel's actions in Gaza. For you as with all of us on this forum, it is over the socialist government of Israel.
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Geert Wilders support a lot of rigthwing Israeli figures and he supports the 'Jordan for the 'Palestinian' plan'. I don't think he has any problems with Israel's actions in Gaza.
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Geert Wilders support a lot of rigthwing Israeli figures and he supports the 'Jordan for the 'Palestinian' plan'. I don't think he has any problems with Israel's actions in Gaza.
Let us hope. By the way what party in Britain do you support? Are there any that support Israel? I know a lot of times the nazis will call right-wing Islamophobic parties "Zionists" and then those parties will do everything to prove that they're not. In Ukraine the only pro-Israel party has historically, shall we say, "questionable", relations with the Jewish community.
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I am not to sure. I only live in Northern Ireland for like 2 months now. The loyalist party's in Northern Ireland are pro-Israel most of the time. So we have the PUP (Progressive Unionist Party) and the DUP (Democratic Unionist Party). Apart from them we have the UKIP-party and some action groups like Britain First. The most of the groups/party's are pro-Israel but it's not a major thing on their agenda as they are British party's and not Israeli party's. The majority of the British people around here support Israel and the Israeli flag is flying high over my area always.
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I am not to sure. I only live in Northern Ireland for like 2 months now. The loyalist party's in Northern Ireland are pro-Israel most of the time. So we have the PUP (Progressive Unionist Party) and the DUP (Democratic Unionist Party). Apart from them we have the UKIP-party and some action groups like Britain First. The most of the groups/party's are pro-Israel but it's not a major thing on their agenda as they are British party's and not Israeli party's. The majority of the British people around here support Israel and the Israeli flag is flying high over my area always.
What do you think of Libery GB?
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I'am not to formiliair with Liberty GB but it seems like a proper organisation and they have some good points in their 'Ten Point Plan'. I believe the UK has a lof of good political party's/action groups.
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I'am not to formiliair with Liberty GB but it seems like a proper organisation and they have some good points in their 'Ten Point Plan'. I believe the UK has a lof of good political party's/action groups.
Paul Weston did give a good speech on the fact that "Palestinians" are actually Jordanians.
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Aldo i must say, i like Paul Weston (the chariman of Liberty GB). He was also involved in the UKIP and the EDL/British Freedom.
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Paul Weston did give a good speech on the fact that "Palestinians" are actually Jordanians.
I don't know about that speech but Paul Weston is on the level.
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Maybe you are the same sort of fool for supporting the likes of the Nazi Austrian Freedom Party. It is a party that praised Hitler and it's former founder was body with Gaddafi. Thankfully both are dead now, but any party which traces itself to Nazis and muslims should be rejected by Jews no matter what they claim they are now.
Apparently Austrian Jews are the same, because the Freedom Party of Austria, the only party in the country which supports Israel, was also the only one to denounce the protest by Turkish invaders and Austrian communist garbage against Israel, yet for some reason, the stupid leftist yids in Vienna wrote a f*cking letter to Ayoob Kara demanding that he end the relations between Israel and the FPÖ (Freedom Party of Austria). I sincerely hope that these obnoxious commie kikes in Austria and Holland get a taste of the Islamic barbarism which they brought into their country before the FPÖ and fellow Austrian patriots, as well as PVV and fellow Dutch patriots, cleanse the Islamic virus from their country.
I hope Geert Wilders realizes that many Jews, especially Israelis, don't think like the scum in his country. Thank God he's still on our side and supporting Israel.
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I don't know about that speech but Paul Weston is on the level.
This speech:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unf9E_A1H1o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unf9E_A1H1o)
However, here on this vile neo-nazi website, he denied that he's a Zionist, desperately pleading with the nazi garbage:
http://thebritishresistance.co.uk/writers/the-editor27/1844-paul-weston-honest-i-am-not-a-zionist-lickspittle
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He is very pro-Israel but is not a zionist... Weird!
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Oh yeah also on their website, this article is so true, and the opening paragraph made me fall off my chair laughing:
http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/6526-child-murdering-jewish-nasties
And frankly, even the Islamophobes don't want to be involved in supporting Israel, because it's "foreign entanglement"- I see, so right-wingers who support Israel are scrambling to prove they're not Zionists, but left-wingers can openly support Palestine and not be Islamists? Hmm. Also, in that article in the comments section Weston also said that even the EDL aren't Zionists, which I find quite worrying. Is there anyone who is?
Furthermore right-wing "Islamophobes" who support "Palestine" are always the worst- people such as Nick Griffin, Nazine Le Pen (as referred to earlier on this forum), Jörg Haider (rest in piss), etc. None of these are openly Nazi so it's very hard to see their real agenda. I've no doubt their supporters are however.
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The EDL was to big and un-organized to say; They are this or that. The EDL had hunderd-thousands of supporters and a lot of them do supported Israel, some of them just don't give a damn about other country's, and some of them were against Israel.. Fact is that the EDL is dead and lost a lot of support/respect.
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The EDL was to big and un-organized to say; They are this or that. The EDL had hunderd-thousands of supporters and a lot of them do supported Israel, some of them just don't give a damn about other country's, and some of them were against Israel.. Fact is that the EDL is dead and lost a lot of support/respect.
Some EDL supporters were against Israel? What kind of EDL members would support "Palestine", I'm completely shocked. Where did you see this.
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Very good article http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/the-likud-connection-europe-s-right-wing-populists-find-allies-in-israel-a-777175.html
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Very good article http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/the-likud-connection-europe-s-right-wing-populists-find-allies-in-israel-a-777175.html
We must remember though that the Likud is controlled by Nutanyahu and his ilk. However it does have a patriotic wing, Manhigut Yehudit, under Moshe Feiglin and Ayoob Kara, which is the one making alliances with European patriots. Hopefully they'll come to eastern Europe as well. In Ukraine the one party which supports Israel is very small although it did play a large roll in the recent events.
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We must remember though that the Likud is controlled by Nutanyahu and his ilk. However it does have a patriotic wing, Manhigut Yehudit, under Moshe Feiglin and Ayoob Kara, which is the one making alliances with European patriots. Hopefully they'll come to eastern Europe as well. In Ukraine the one party which supports Israel is very small although it did play a large roll in the recent events.
I think Russians are more Anti Jewish then Ukraine i always see anti Israel Propaganda on RT T.V.
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Some EDL supporters were against Israel? What kind of EDL members would support "Palestine", I'm completely shocked. Where did you see this.
No i don't say they support 'Palestine'. Some English give only about the English. They don't like neither Jews or Arabs so they don't give a damn about something in the middle-east even if you tell them Israel is also fighting for us in the west. This is only a minority of the people within the EDL. Believe me, in every 'proper' organisation you have rotten apples. By the way, there is no such thing as an EDL member. Everyone can come on demo's as long as they follow the rules.
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Some EDL supporters were against Israel? What kind of EDL members would support "Palestine", I'm completely shocked. Where did you see this.
I was running with the EDL for a few years.
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This speech:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unf9E_A1H1o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unf9E_A1H1o)
However, here on this vile neo-nazi website, he denied that he's a Zionist, desperately pleading with the nazi garbage:
http://thebritishresistance.co.uk/writers/the-editor27/1844-paul-weston-honest-i-am-not-a-zionist-lickspittle
That site is jealous because all normal right wingers know the true enemy and it's not Jews why the hell would Jews want muslims in Europe to turn it into a muslim stronghold? Paul Weston of course is not a Israel over Brittan person,after all he's British.But he's pro Israel because he knows who the real enemy is.
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That site is jealous because all normal right wingers know the true enemy and it's not Jews why the hell would Jews want muslims in Europe to turn it into a muslim stronghold? Paul Weston of course is not a Israel over Brittan person,after all he's British.But he's pro Israel because he knows who the real enemy is.
In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.
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I think Russians are more Anti Jewish then Ukraine i always see anti Israel Propaganda on RT T.V.
Well that's their government. I don't exactly identify as a Ukrainian Nationalist per se, but I do have some sympathy for them and certainly appreciate the appearance of the so-called "neo-nazi" far-right party Правий Сектор or "Right Sector" in the pro-Israel event in the city of Dnipropetrovsk initially held by the Jewish community. But a lot of Ukrainian nationalists, even the ones who aren't nazis, run around yelling about "moskali" this and "moskali" that, and ignore the fact that not all Russians worship their 'gasudarstva'. There is the excellent Russian Nationalist party "Russian Democratic Alliance" which supports Ukraine and Israel, and they even visited Israel a while ago:
http://nazdem.info
you can find details about Israel on their website.
I'm completely against making the Russian language official in Ukraine and believe that the Ukrainian government should be aggressively promoting our beautiful Ukrainian language, as well as Ukrainian Jews should relearn Yiddish, which the Russians eradicated. I don't want us to end up like Belarus where only 10% of the population speaks Belarusian at home.
About anti-Semitism in Ukraine:
On the other hand all Ukrainian nationalists believe in Stepan Bandera, and I don't know if he's been discussed earlier on this thread. He was an anti-communist insurgent in WWII. He's often labelled as a "nazi-collaborator" by the Russians and several left-wing groups. Some of his men did help the Nazis only because they saw them as a lesser evil than communists, who had already slaughtered millions of Ukrainians in the Holodomor a decade before WWII- in the same way many of the allied partisans allied with communists because they saw them as the lesser of the two evils. Bandera proclaimed an independent Ukrainian state during the Nazi occupation, but was arrested and imprisoned in Auschwitz where two of his brothers perished. When he became free, his partisans, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army engaged the Nazis, Soviets, and Polish Underground all at once in fierce, four-sided(!) guerrilla warfare.
I think he was a controversial figure, I certainly admire anyone who fought against Nazis and Soviets at the same time. However I can never sympathize with nazi-collaborators, just like I can never sympathize with communist-collaborators, or islam-collaborators. Also allegedly Ukrainian nationalist partisans massacred Polish civilians in the Volyn region, but not by the orders of Bandera. His modern-day admirers hold that they're staunchly anti-nazi, however if you look at comments made by members of the largest nationalist party, Svoboda, on their online forums, it strongly suggests otherwise. Also the Polish underground helped save Jews and also fought against both totalitarian regimes, and never allied with either. Today Polish nationalists are extremely chauvinistic and anti-semitic. I think the true heroes were the Chetniks, (respect to our Serbian friends on the forum), who fought both the Communists and Nazis as well.
But I appreciate your understanding about my country and Russia when it comes to Jews.
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That site is jealous because all normal right wingers know the true enemy and it's not Jews why the hell would Jews want muslims in Europe to turn it into a muslim stronghold? Paul Weston of course is not a Israel over Brittan person,after all he's British.But he's pro Israel because he knows who the real enemy is.
I think the entire "Israel first" bullsh*t was started by Pat Buchanan (the Kremlin's favorite homosexual prostitute, as seen in Moscow bars), and I see no reason why you can't put your own country first and be a Zionist at the same time.
That site is neo-nazi, they aren't jealous, they're just saying "heil hitler, untermenschen out!" which is funny because even the farthest right party in Britain can't be pro-Hitler since Hitler was an enemy of Britain.
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We used to have a poster here named ULLI he was a great guy from Germany.I don't know what happened to him but i hope he is alright.Anyhow he showed an article of the head of the neo nazis and a photo of him begging Ahmadinejad for money
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We used to have a poster here named ULLI he was a great guy from Germany.I don't know what happened to him but i hope he is alright.Anyhow he showed an article of the head of the neo nazis and a photo of him begging Ahmadinejad for money
Really? LOL!
Anyway what bad thing could have happened to him?
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We used to have a poster here named ULLI he was a great guy from Germany.I don't know what happened to him but i hope he is alright.Anyhow he showed an article of the head of the neo nazis and a photo of him begging Ahmadinejad for money
The German neo-naz's looove Ahmadinejad...
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Really? LOL!
Anyway what bad thing could have happened to him?
Probably nothing but i don't know he just stopped posting.Yes that part about the nazi begging the iranians for money was expose on German T.V
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Probably nothing but i don't know he just stopped posting.Yes that part about the nazi begging the iranians for money was expose on German T.V
Wait, you mean the NDP! They were linked to a Ukrainian party! I just remembered. Wow, it's amazing how some parties shift their public image. This particular Ukrainian party has now made contact with an Israeli party but I wouldn't say they've fully come to the light.
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Wait, you mean the NDP! They were linked to a Ukrainian party! I just remembered. Wow, it's amazing how some parties shift their public image. This particular Ukrainian party has now made contact with an Israeli party but I wouldn't say they've fully come to the light.
NPD (National-democratische Partei Deutschland).
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Wait, you mean the NDP! They were linked to a Ukrainian party! I just remembered. Wow, it's amazing how some parties shift their public image. This particular Ukrainian party has now made contact with an Israeli party but I wouldn't say they've fully come to the light.
I think it might be.