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Title: Shabak must have been involved in the murder of Dalia Lemkos ZTL HYD
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on November 16, 2014, 03:10:35 PM
What fool would believe it's a coincidence?   She was targeted in 2006 in a stabbing attack at the same location and survived.

After surviving, she was interviewed and told the media that instead of evicting Jews from Gaza, they should be evicting and expelling arab terrorists.  And similar statements blaming the govt for failing to stem the violence from arabs and for encouraging it.

Now she was killed in a stabbing attack at the very same location.    Watch the CCTV video.  It's very clearly a targeted attack.

The articles say she is from a "prominent family" in Tekoa.   The pictures of the funeral show a national religious "Dati Leumi" family. 

Was there a message the govt tried to "send" to that prominent family 8 years ago but failed?   And this time did they deliver their message?   Was muhamad al hamadan (whatever his generic mudrat name was) just a hired agent of the "Jewish Section?"

I believe yes to all 3 questions.
Title: Re: Shabak must have been involved in the murder of Dalia Lemkos ZTL HYD
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on November 16, 2014, 03:14:47 PM
And who will investigate this?  No one.

Ready for you to jump on me as conspiracy theorist, but I think a person would have to be really dumb to think it's a coincidence.
Title: Re: Shabak must have been involved in the murder of Dalia Lemkos ZTL HYD
Post by: Zelhar on November 16, 2014, 03:50:01 PM
It is not a planned assassination by Shabak. You can say that there is an element of criminal negligent, because there should be much better security. Arabs should not be allowed anywhere near the hitch hiking stops.
Title: Re: Shabak must have been involved in the murder of Dalia Lemkos ZTL HYD
Post by: Yehudayaakov on November 16, 2014, 04:27:32 PM
How do you know it is not a planned assaassination^^, as you say  there is an element of criminal negligent but criminal negligence isn't it a other way to kill someone...there is connection between israeli spy agencies with Arab terrorist org in Israel and it is not coincidence that 2 hits happen in the same place.
Title: Re: Shabak must have been involved in the murder of Dalia Lemkos ZTL HYD
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on November 16, 2014, 04:45:12 PM
It is not a planned assassination by Shabak. You can say that there is an element of criminal negligent, because there should be much better security. Arabs should not be allowed anywhere near the hitch hiking stops.

How do you know?

Considering all the other things they do to nationalists, why is this beyond them?

Furthermore, who gave the arab terrorist organizations information on the Lemkos family?
Title: Re: Shabak must have been involved in the murder of Dalia Lemkos ZTL HYD
Post by: Zelhar on November 16, 2014, 06:34:54 PM
How do you know?
Considering all the other things they do to nationalists, why is this beyond them?

The Lemkos family is not that important. I haven't heard of them before for example. The stakes of organizing a hit for such reasons are insanely high. Then outsourcing it to Arabs- just as insane. It means the operation becomes too complex and nearly impossible to contain. If the target is some arch terrorist or a nuclear scientist that might worth the risk and trouble, but a young Jewish lady from Tekoa- no sense at all.

I don't care how evil shabak is, they are not entirely morons. Another thing is, Jews don't kill uninvolved family members just to send message. It may be standard practice for drug cartels and Islamists, but not Jews.

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Furthermore, who gave the arab terrorist organizations information on the Lemkos family?
I don't think it was targeted at the Lemkos family, the murderer wanted to kill Jews.
Title: Re: Shabak must have been involved in the murder of Dalia Lemkos ZTL HYD
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on November 16, 2014, 08:22:38 PM
  Come on. This sounds like when people started calling each other and thinking of each others of being "agent provocateurs". Statements like these are counterproductive. 1) their isn't enough evidence to suggest this. 2) This would only actually silence people from being more "right-wing" and speaking out for the truth, because by this suggestion it would mean they have or would have targets specifically against them.
Title: Re: Shabak must have been involved in the murder of Dalia Lemkos ZTL HYD
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on November 17, 2014, 12:05:21 AM
  Come on. This sounds like when people started calling each other and thinking of each others of being "agent provocateurs". Statements like these are counterproductive. 1) their isn't enough evidence to suggest this. 2) This would only actually silence people from being more "right-wing" and speaking out for the truth, because by this suggestion it would mean they have or would have targets specifically against them.

No I would say that national religious and settler families in Israel are targets.  It seems that all the targeted killings happen to that camp.  Others are killed seemingly only in the indiscriminate killings.
Title: Re: Shabak must have been involved in the murder of Dalia Lemkos ZTL HYD
Post by: kahaneloyalist on November 17, 2014, 04:11:26 AM
There have been many attacks on the tremping post where the murder took place. While Dalia hy'd's murder is tragic and must be avenged it was almost certainly not orchestrated by the SHABAK.
Title: Re: Shabak must have been involved in the murder of Dalia Lemkos ZTL HYD
Post by: Dr. Dan on November 17, 2014, 05:59:59 AM
Shabak or not, the current establishment has enabled the death of jews in Israel. They as well as the actual murderers have blood on their hands.