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Title: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: ItalianZionist on August 23, 2007, 08:06:34 AM
Since we're sending emails let's each send an email to the Bill OREilly show at this email: [email protected]  explaining why we want to see Chaim on the show and how we are a growing movement.

I know oreilly is not the best, but if we ALL send emails to him we can get great publicity for the movement. I think out of all the shows, oreilly is the most likely to have him on if ALL of the forum members send an email.

I would like to ask the moderators to make this a permanent post.
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: Dissenter on August 23, 2007, 08:35:58 AM
Forget it. It's been tried. In fact, there have long been permanent links to O'Reilly, Hannity, etc., on the JTF.ORG main page.

Our efforts should be concentrated on Youtube. JTF has always relied on the alternative media, and as Chaim has repeatedly said, Youtube is a golden opportunity for us. We couldn't have asked for a better one.

Anyway, check out Alexa.com for some good news. JTF.ORG is the 36,000th biggest web site in the United States and the 4,100th biggest web site in Israel. Also, we are only 1,000 times as small as CNN.

These numbers may not seem impressive initially, but when you consider the millions of web sites out there, and the tens of millions of internet users, you'll see that we're doing something right.
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: ItalianZionist on August 23, 2007, 08:51:00 AM

..All true...but I think we never had all the members of the forum email one source like oreilly. If he received hundreds of emails I think that it's more likely for Chaim to go on. And just think of the publicity.
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: Dissenter on August 23, 2007, 09:31:14 AM
..All true...but I think we never had all the members of the forum email one source like oreilly. If he received hundreds of emails I think that it's more likely for Chaim to go on. And just think of the publicity.

In the first place, it's hard getting even a few dozen of our members to comment on Youtube. So the idea of getting hundreds of them to write in concert to O'Reilly or Hannity is implausible at best.

Also, the publicity might not be so great as you might think. When Chaim appeared on Arutz Sheva, our numbers only enjoyed a slight uptick.

And even people who go on O'Reilly don't get great numbers automatically. For example, there's a pretty young Ann Coulter wannabe named Mary Katharine Ham who writes for townhall.com and who does right-wing videos for Youtube. She appears weekly on O'Reilly as his "internet expert," but even she only gets a few hundred viewers per video, just like us.

Our best hope right now is posting comments on Youtube, engaging our enemies in debate there, and getting *them* to post comments in reply. After a while, the word will get around, just like it got around public access TV in New York.
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: Shoshana on August 23, 2007, 09:45:46 AM
I agree ItalianZionist- If we could get Chaim on the Oreilly factor I would think that would be a great thing for our numbers. I've written Oreilly quite a few times but certainly will again. I agree though that the Youtube Campaign in very important as well.
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: Shoshana on August 23, 2007, 09:46:54 AM
Forget it. It's been tried. In fact, there have long been permanent links to O'Reilly, Hannity, etc., on the JTF.ORG main page.

Our efforts should be concentrated on Youtube. JTF has always relied on the alternative media, and as Chaim has repeatedly said, Youtube is a golden opportunity for us. We couldn't have asked for a better one.

Anyway, check out Alexa.com for some good news. JTF.ORG is the 36,000th biggest web site in the United States and the 4,100th biggest web site in Israel. Also, we are only 1,000 times as small as CNN.

These numbers may not seem impressive initially, but when you consider the millions of web sites out there, and the tens of millions of internet users, you'll see that we're doing something right.


Wow, those are some impressive numbers!
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: DownwithIslam on August 23, 2007, 10:56:34 AM
I don't think this will ever happen. oreilly will just cut Chaim off a million times and the whole segment would be 2 minutes. I do think that if it happened, it would bring in a lot of new members.
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: Lisa on August 23, 2007, 11:02:17 AM
You guys, I know I keep saying this, but why not do a push with right wing blogs?
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: Dave the Marine on August 23, 2007, 11:15:26 AM
forgive me for not capitalizing, need to get out and get a new keyboard.

if you are gonna push for this push for the sept 9th muslim day parade. orielly is sure to discuss this on his show.
chaim would be an opposing opinion if you will.  this would get some publicity, and lessen the likelyhood of lots of cutoffs by orielly. just a thought.
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: ItalianZionist on August 24, 2007, 01:09:00 AM
very true
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: Shoshana on August 24, 2007, 01:12:27 AM
You guys, I know I keep saying this, but why not do a push with right wing blogs?

I've never done any blogging.
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: Shoshana on August 24, 2007, 01:12:54 AM
forgive me for not capitalizing, need to get out and get a new keyboard.

if you are gonna push for this push for the sept 9th muslim day parade. orielly is sure to discuss this on his show.
chaim would be an opposing opinion if you will.  this would get some publicity, and lessen the likelyhood of lots of cutoffs by orielly. just a thought.

Very good suggestion.
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: ape on August 24, 2007, 06:45:32 AM
We should push for the show on Sept 9----muslim parade----It's good to mention it in the email.
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: ape on August 24, 2007, 06:49:35 AM
A short email to the point will be great:


"Dear Staff,
   I believe that Victor Vancier of the JDL would make a great guest for the Sept 9 show depicting the Muslim parade. He would show the terrorist connections that the parade has made.
Thank You..
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: ape on August 24, 2007, 09:57:27 AM
that's true but it would be easy if all of us just emailed one sentence.
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: mord on August 24, 2007, 10:00:33 AM
O'Reilly will never have Chaim on his show. He is a self hating Irishman who parades around as a conservative. He is just an establishment mouthpiece. Pure and simple. And I personally think his views are not conservative.
This is true he's a moderate in moderates clothing he does'nt even pretend to be a conservative
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: Dan on August 24, 2007, 10:03:19 AM
I watch O'Reilly a couple times a week... I don't think that he would find Chaim that extreme he can't have a 5 min dialogue with him. When the cameras were OFF I think that O'Reilly does agree with Chaim but for his sake and the success of the show he can'/won't admit it.
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: ape on August 24, 2007, 05:31:47 PM
I think 5 minutes on TV would catapult JTF to a mass movement. Oreilly is the highest rated news analysis program today.
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: mosquewatch on August 24, 2007, 06:07:42 PM
I'm not a fan of O'Reilly, but if would help out Chaim and JTF  out so be it.
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: ape on August 25, 2007, 11:04:22 AM
Let's get all the emails in today:

[email protected]

just one sentence will do
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: Dan on August 25, 2007, 11:12:22 AM
Thanks Ape!
 I just sent an email... It was just a short paragraph but to the point, I think!
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: ape on August 25, 2007, 09:04:36 PM
That's the spirit!
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: mosquewatch on August 25, 2007, 10:13:59 PM

From:    '[email protected]' <[email protected]>        Sent: Sat Aug 25 19:45 
 
To:     OReilly @ FoxNews . com <[email protected]> ...   Priority:  Normal   
 
Subject:    Chaim Ben Pesach interview Type: HTML Msg   
 
Alert:    The users email-address has been added to the addressbook

Would you consider Interviewing Chaim by phone , the founder of JTF.ORG on your show ? Please visit www.jtf.org  if you would be interested in a great interview.

 

Jeff

Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: ape on August 26, 2007, 01:24:36 AM
 Perfect
Mosquewatch, absolutely mint....
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: ItalianZionist on August 26, 2007, 05:45:21 PM
Yacov, if we were all like you we'd have a mass movement in no time!!!!!!!

you're the best
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: ape on August 28, 2007, 12:39:02 AM
Come on...Let's go guys!
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: RationalThought110 on September 26, 2007, 07:24:23 AM
Forget it. It's been tried. In fact, there have long been permanent links to O'Reilly, Hannity, etc., on the JTF.ORG main page.

Our efforts should be concentrated on Youtube. JTF has always relied on the alternative media, and as Chaim has repeatedly said, Youtube is a golden opportunity for us. We couldn't have asked for a better one.

Anyway, check out Alexa.com for some good news. JTF.ORG is the 36,000th biggest web site in the United States and the 4,100th biggest web site in Israel. Also, we are only 1,000 times as small as CNN.

These numbers may not seem impressive initially, but when you consider the millions of web sites out there, and the tens of millions of internet users, you'll see that we're doing something right.



Did he ever respond?
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: RationalThought110 on September 26, 2007, 07:34:31 AM
O'Reilly will never have Chaim on his show. He is a self hating Irishman who parades around as a conservative. He is just an establishment mouthpiece. Pure and simple. And I personally think his views are not conservative.

I think he's said that he neither considers himself conservative nor liberal. 
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: RationalThought110 on September 26, 2007, 07:40:34 AM
For example, O'Reilly mentions the anti-Americanism of moveon.org.  Chaim would have been able to speak about that during a segment and discuss Hillary. 
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: Dan on September 26, 2007, 09:32:15 AM
That would be great, however O'Reilly is not type of guy to let Chaim on. He fears backlash and wouldn't take a chance on loosing 'Numbers'... Hannity's America might be a better shot.
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: RationalThought110 on September 26, 2007, 10:43:10 AM
That would be great, however O'Reilly is not type of guy to let Chaim on. He fears backlash and wouldn't take a chance on loosing 'Numbers'... Hannity's America might be a better shot.


Yeah, I like "Hannity's America".   There's no Alan Colmes on it to waste time.
Hannity has had guests on it previously who have similar views as Chaim on issues. 


I think people should write some brief e-mails to Hannity and specifically ask if Chaim could be a guest during a segment of Hannity's America.  Don't just say "look at the website jtf.org" because he may not feel like spending time browsing through the site.  A list of potential topics should probably be made that Chaim could potentially discuss. 
For example, he would be able to talk about Hillary and the anti-Americanism of moveon.org, could help re-shape the argument of energy independence away from a "global warming issue" and into a national security issue.   Hannity should be told that Chaim would be able to speak about any issue that Hannity is interested in discussing on his program and some examples, such as the ones I mentioned above could be mentioned. 


Someone should post a potential letter on the forum so we could help edit it and then others would know what to send. 

Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: Muck DeFuslims on September 26, 2007, 11:11:36 AM
Chaim won't be appearing on the O'Reilly show or Hannity's show or any other mainstream media show anytime soon.

Why ?

It's not because his views on most issues are too conservative or too right wing.

It's not because he isn't a great speaker and wouldn't be a great guest.

It's because he's been so outspoken and blunt about racial issues and blacks in particular.

The politically correct Hannity and O'Reilly might very well agree with Chaim on many issues, but can not have him as a guest because to do so could be interpreted as endorsing Chaim's 'racist' views.

They won't touch Chaim with a ten foot pole.
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: RationalThought110 on September 26, 2007, 11:42:04 AM
Chaim won't be appearing on the O'Reilly show or Hannity's show or any other mainstream media show anytime soon.

Why ?

It's not because his views on most issues are too conservative or too right wing.

It's not because he isn't a great speaker and wouldn't be a great guest.

It's because he's been so outspoken and blunt about racial issues and blacks in particular.

The politically correct Hannity and O'Reilly might very well agree with Chaim on many issues, but can not have him as a guest because to do so could be interpreted as endorsing Chaim's 'racist' views.

They won't touch Chaim with a ten foot pole.


O'Reilly is the one who is currently being accused of being a racist.  I disagree.  "Media Matters" is lying. 

Now back to Hannity.  "Hannity's America" is not the exact same as "Hannity & Colmes".

Chaim wouldn't use the time talking about the Jena 6. 

And I would assume that Chaim would be serious.  Some have mentioned on the forum that he likes to joke around frequently.

Potential topics could involve how energy independence is an urgent national security issue.  He could discuss how it would be bad to sell US ports or the NASDAQ.  He could talk about Hillary Clinton, he could talk about history from this article he wrote: 

http://www.jtf.org/america/america.why.bush.will.not.defeat.islamic.terrorism.htm
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: Dan on September 29, 2007, 10:12:00 PM
RT you have a great point!
I think that this would be a good time to push for Chaim to get on some type of Major Media Outlet...
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: Ari on September 29, 2007, 10:14:15 PM
Unfortunately, even if some of these so-called hotshots agree with many of Chaim's views, I think they have such big egos that they would be afraid to share the stage with Chaim.  Chaim is no doubt more entertaining and informative.
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: Wayne Jude on September 29, 2007, 10:22:04 PM
Yes but why? O reilly is a sell out .Not one of us!
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: cjd on September 29, 2007, 10:26:40 PM
Something happened on O'Reilly's show this week there was a whole issue going on about him over on CNN. It seems he has been outspoken on race issues and its got the Libs. upset. 
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: Wayne Jude on September 29, 2007, 10:28:45 PM
He is a sell out cjd
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on September 29, 2007, 11:28:39 PM
O'Reilly will shoot himself in the head rather than have Chaim as his guest.

He just might allow a phone call for the purposes of shouting Chaim down and humiliating him to his audience, but O'Reilly vehemently disagrees with JTF, and is a arrogant moron who supports most liberal causes.

Savage should host Chaim as a guest spot, but even he is too egocentric to allow a charismatic speaker like Chaim to compete with him.

Perhaps a weekly JTF show on shortwave?

Most of the shortwave stations featuring "patriot" format will allow anyone to say literally anything (short of breaking the law) as long as they pay for the air time.

This is how Alex Jones and many others "got their foot in the door" and worked to get the attention of the public.

The shortwave stations also allow shows to advertise and sell their "products" on the air (books, tapes, CD's, T-shirts, other services).

Downside--The mainstream public doesn't listen to shortwave, so the new audience gained is for the most part from a sector of the public already prepped to accept Chaim's message.

Upside--Shortwave broadcasts quite literally can and will be heard anywhere on the globe from listeners in every country in the world.
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: MasterWolf1 on September 29, 2007, 11:33:33 PM
I would love to see Chaim on the Factor, but will O'Reilly do it?
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: cjd on September 29, 2007, 11:47:01 PM
He is a sell out cjd

Yes he is. Their conservatism only goes as far as the ratings will allow. I have listened to them all over the years and they all are just about the same. The only guy that tells it like it is and sticks to his guns is Chaim. There are a few other hosts that also try to stick to their values but for the most part they are small potatoes. I think basically the problem with the bigger shows is with the sponsors. Hosts have to give programing that will be acceptable to the mainstream of society so they cant be to far off to the left or right.
Title: Re: LET'S GET CHAIM ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR!
Post by: Wayne Jude on September 30, 2007, 02:02:39 PM
You got it Cjd!