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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: TruthSpreader on September 18, 2015, 09:16:28 AM
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We shouldnt call blacks the N word. We shouldnt call Jews the 'K' word and I think we shouldnt call Special Needs people the 'R' word. So what are your thoughts?
Please give me your thoughts.
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I agree. It's really not necessary.
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"Special needs" is a broad category and most people with special needs are not retarded. It is wrong to deliberately try to offend and make fun at persons with special needs that can't defend themselves. However I think it is acceptable to use the word in a clinical mining to describe a real condition. Not naming something doesn't make it to not exist.
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"Special needs" is a broad category and most people with special needs are not retarded. It is wrong to deliberately try to offend and make fun at persons with special needs that can't defend themselves. However I think it is acceptable to use the word in a clinical mining to describe a real condition. Not naming something doesn't make it to not exist.
But I'm pretty sure he's referring to using the word as an "insult" to people who are not actually clinically retarded but said something stupid, are leftist morons, etc. I don't think he means that the clinical term should cease to be used.
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I vote yes. We should not use this term to insult people. There are many thousands of words to choose from the attack our enemies.
I have at times allowed myself to use this term as an insult or just to describe an annoying situation where people's behavior doesn't make sense, and I regret it. I try to avoid doing so.
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I agree with the first 2, because they don't add anything descriptive, they deny the humanity of the person and indicate that a person is lesser. Mentally retarded means exactly what it means. Handicapable means nothing, and special needs means nothing at all. It's not political correctness not to say the n word, it's a desire not to insult. Mentally retarded or shorthand retard means what it means, and I'm not in favor of saying we have to say words that mean nothing so as not to offend people.
I also call dumb people retards.
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SAying you can't say retard is like saying you have to say "laterally enhanced" to tubsters.
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If we (and i don't know of any official JTF communications with the word retard in it) say "retarded person", would that make you feel better? Or we could just say "person with nothing wrong with them who knows that is sanity lalalala la la there is no difference with anyone.)
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If we (and i don't know of any official JTF communications with the word retard in it) say "retarded person", would that make you feel better? Or we could just say "person with nothing wrong with them who knows that is sanity lalalala la la there is no difference with anyone.)
Thats slightly less derogatory but still I don't think use it. I have many friends in Special Olympics and none of them use it.
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I voted wrong. Im okay calling some people retarded when they behave that way.
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As someone who has a brother who has Down's Syndrome, I avoid using the ' R' word. I've never been comfortable with the way the ' R' word has been thrown around.
Regarding the poll. I inadvertently voted no, as I misread the question. Hence, you can add one more yes vote.
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If we (and i don't know of any official JTF communications with the word retard in it) say "retarded person", would that make you feel better? Or we could just say "person with nothing wrong with them who knows that is sanity lalalala la la there is no difference with anyone.)
Israel Chai, didn't you use that word to Brittney?
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As someone who has a brother who has Down's Syndrome, I avoid using the ' R' word. I've never been comfortable with the way the ' R' word has been thrown around.
Regarding the poll. I inadvertently voted no, as I misread the question. Hence, you can add one more yes vote.
hehehe it was a trick question!
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Israel Chai, didn't you use that word to Brittney?
c'mon don't bring that up again. he's got lots of personal problems and he smokes poison.
lets leave him alone.
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c'mon don't bring that up again. he's got lots of personal problems and he smokes poison.
lets leave him alone.
Oh ok sorry about that. I won't ever mention her name here again.
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Oh ok sorry about that. I won't ever mention her name here again.
;D
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Lol "didn't you use that word" brah don't act like you're all of a sudden a concerned parent. I called her post retarded. Then I spent about 4 or 5 posts explaining to her that i called her post retarded, not her, and after "she" still couldn't get that, then yeah i called her retarded.
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c'mon don't bring that up again. he's got lots of personal problems and he smokes poison.
lets leave him alone.
You obsessed dude? You don't know anything about me, and I'm fine with cigarettes, they help me think.
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I'm not. I just find the word extremely offensive. She thought you called her that not that I'm defending her.
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I'm not. I just find the word extremely offensive. She thought you called her that not that I'm defending her.
Ok and some people find midget offensive, but Torah uses it and its descriptive of the condition they have, like mentally retarded. Rendering language meaningless because it offends you isn't helpful. For the record, do you prefer handicapable, special needs, differently abled, disabled, or is there no way to define sanity, and really they're sane and we're insane?
It won't change my answer or my opinion, you're not a tzaddik because you have now fought people off from saying that, you're thin skinned and anti-straightforwardness.
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So I am just trying to clear it so I understand, hypothetically, if I use the R word to name call somebody or something who are not special needs person, is that end up offending people who I don't mean to- people of special needs, family of such people etc?
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So I am just trying to clear it so I understand, hypothetically, if I use the R word to name call somebody or something who are not special needs person, is that end up offending people who I don't mean to- people of special needs, family of such people etc?
It is offensive regardless if he or she is Special needs or not.
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You obsessed dude? You don't know anything about me, and I'm fine with cigarettes, they help me think.
I'm just trying to help you out dude. See, he backed down. You should thank me for my many acts of kindness.
And yes smoking poison is bad for you. Either poison called weed or poison call tobacco.
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Using retarded as a slur is probably not a good idea if it's used to refer to people who are actually handicapped, and you may want to avoid it for other uses too but we have to remember that a lot of this self-censoring has to do with political correctness and so you have to strike the balance between being kind and losing your freedom of speech. Offensive speech is protected speech unless we self-censor.
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Using retarded as a slur is probably not a good idea if it's used to refer to people who are actually handicapped, and you may want to avoid it for other uses too but we have to remember that a lot of this self-censoring has to do with political correctness and so you have to strike the balance between being kind and losing your freedom of speech. Offensive speech is protected speech unless we self-censor.
R**S**rs, you're right.
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I'm just trying to help you out dude. See, he backed down. You should thank me for my many acts of kindness.
And yes smoking poison is bad for you. Either poison called weed or poison call tobacco.
Oh this tobacco isn't poison and it's good for me. And next time you want to mock and sarcastically ask someone to pity someone, do it to your mother, it's good to be kind to family.
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Using retarded as a slur is probably not a good idea if it's used to refer to people who are actually handicapped, and you may want to avoid it for other uses too but we have to remember that a lot of this self-censoring has to do with political correctness and so you have to strike the balance between being kind and losing your freedom of speech. Offensive speech is protected speech unless we self-censor.
Thank you, Rubystars.
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/conditions/mental-retardation
Mental retardation (MR) is a condition diagnosed before age 18, usually in infancy or prior to birth, that includes below-average general intellectual function, and a lack of the skills necessary for daily living. When onset occurs at age 18 or after, it is called dementia, which can coexist with an MR diagnosis. Intelligence level as determined by individual standard assessment is below 70, and the ability to adapt to the demands of normal life is impaired. This is important because it distinguishes a diagnosis of MR from individuals with low IQ scores who are able to adapt to the demands of everyday life. Education, job training, support from family, and individual characteristics such as motivation and personality can all contribute to the ability of individuals with MR to adapt.
Other behavioral traits associated with MR (but not deemed criteria for an MR diagnosis) include aggression, dependency, impulsivity, passivity, self-injury, stubbornness, low self-esteem, and low frustration tolerance. Some may also exhibit mood disorders such as psychotic disorders and attention difficulties, though others are pleasant, otherwise healthy individuals. Sometimes physical traits, like shortness in stature and malformation of facial elements, can set individuals with MR apart, while others may have a normal appearance.
Mental retardation affects about 1 percent to 3 percent of the population.
EVIL HATEFUL SHRINKS AHH. Anyways, since you didn't say what term you prefer, I'll assume you just don't want it brought up because it makes you uncomfortable. To deal with that, leftists make up a new term every week, and call last week's progressive term hateful. Calling Jewish leftists Jew-haters is also a big discomfort causer, but it's accurate, and I prefer it to meaningless terms.
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Would you like that actually? Pay me and ill come up with a new increasingly meaningless term each and every week to refer to the medical condition, and scream hate hatefully at anyone who accidentally uses another term. I'll even stop saying it here as long as the checks keep coming in.
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This tobacco is poison and it's killing for me. And next time you want to mock and sarcastically ask someone to pity someone, do it to your muthuh, it's good to be kind to fambily.
You've morphed when you changed your user name. I don't recognize you anymore. Thought you were my agreeable buddy (from posting history). Back when you were still David Banner.
Relax. Put down that gun. Why be miserable?
You're not rational. All of the sudden you imagine that I go around yelling all the time (in another post).
Heeere try some of this...it'll help you relax.
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You've morphed when you changed your user name. I don't recognize you anymore. Thought you were my agreeable buddy (from posting history). Back when you were still David Banner.
Relax. Put down that gun. Why be miserable?
You're not rational. All of the sudden you imagine that I go around yelling all the time (in another post).
Heeere try some of this...it'll help you relax.
I have enough problems, don't need to talk about them, or have someone patronize me on them. If you want to get back to making overtly-racist jokes, and discussing conservative politics in memes (which really, it's not just funny, you're a full-fledged genius for some of the ones you came up with, i can turn a crowd against 9/11 theorists with "I personally believe 9/11 was an outside job done by Klingons") then we can go back to our old relations.