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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: HiWarp on September 01, 2007, 06:03:42 AM
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Wow, if these guys get elected and do this, I might consider going to Switzerland.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gOtp4Efcqk4AmOuof_iTc0DSWTlQ (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gOtp4Efcqk4AmOuof_iTc0DSWTlQ)
Swiss Expulsion Proposal Draws Criticism
By FRANK JORDANS
GENEVA (AP) — The campaign poster was blatant in its xenophobic symbolism: Three white sheep kicking out a black sheep over a caption that read "for more security." The message was not from a fringe force in Switzerland's political scene but from its largest party.
The nationalist Swiss People's Party is proposing a deportation policy that anti-racism campaigners say evokes Nazi-era practices. Under the plan, entire families would be expelled if their children are convicted of a violent crime, drug offenses or benefits fraud.
The party is trying to collect the 100,000 signatures needed to force a referendum on the issue. If approved in a referendum, the law would be the only one of its kind in Europe.
"We believe that parents are responsible for bringing up their children. If they can't do it properly, they will have to bear the consequences," Ueli Maurer, president of the People's Party, told The Associated Press.
Ronnie Bernheim of the Swiss Foundation against Racism and Anti-Semitism said the proposal was similar to the Nazi practice of "Sippenhaft" — or kin liability — whereby relatives of criminals were held responsible for his or her crimes and punished equally.
Similar practices occurred during Stalin's purges in the early days of the Soviet Union and the 1966-76 Cultural Revolution in China, when millions were persecuted for their alleged ideological failings.
"As soon as the first 10 families and their children have been expelled from the country, then things will get better at a stroke," said Maurer, whose party controls the Justice Ministry and shares power in an unwieldy coalition that includes all major parties.
He explained that his party has long campaigned to make deportation compulsory for convicted immigrants rather than an optional and rarely applied punishment.
The party claims foreigners — who make up about 20 percent of the population — are four times more likely to commit crimes than Swiss nationals.
Bernheim said the vast majority of Switzerland's immigrants are law-abiding and warned against generalizations.
"If you don't treat a complicated issue with the necessary nuance and care, then you won't do it justice," he said.
Commentators have expressed horror over the symbolism used by the People's Party to make its point.
"This way of thinking shows an obvious blood-and-soil mentality," read one editorial in the Zurich daily Tages-Anzeiger, calling for a broader public reaction against the campaign.
So far, however, there has been little popular backlash against the posters.
"We haven't had any complaints," said Maurer.
The city of Geneva — home to Switzerland's humanitarian traditions as well as the European headquarters of the United Nations and the U.N. Refugee Agency, or UNHCR — said the campaign was likely to stir up intolerance.
The UNHCR said the law would run contrary to the U.N. refugee convention, of which Switzerland is a signatory.
But observers say the People's Party's hardline stance on immigration could help it in the Oct. 21 national elections. In 2004, the party successfully campaigned for tighter immigration laws using the image of black hands reaching into a pot filled with Swiss passports.
"It's certainly no coincidence that the People's Party launched this initiative before the elections," said Oliver Geden, a political scientist at the Berlin Institute for International and Security Affairs.
He said provocative campaigns such as this had worked well for the party in the past.
"The symbol of the black sheep was clearly intended to have a double meaning. On the one hand there's the familiar idea of the black sheep, but a lot of voters are also going to associate it with the notion of dark-skinned drug dealers," said Geden.
The party also has put forward a proposal to ban the building of minaret towers alongside mosques. And one of its leading figures, Justice Minister Christoph Blocher, said he wants to soften anti-racism laws because they prevent freedom of speech.
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Ronnie Bernheim of the Swiss Foundation against Racism and Anti-Semitism said the proposal was similar to the Nazi practice of "Sippenhaft" — or kin liability
Not at all my dear woman
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They're not proposing killing anyone, or torturing anyone, they're not even suggesting locking anyone up, all they're suggesting is kicking people out of their country, I can't see much wrong with this idea, though I think a two strickes rule might be better.
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I hope they take power. Those muzzies have to go.
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It's a great step forward... Switzerland is a small and very wealthy country, so I think that this will set an important precedent for other countries to follow.
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Who knew the Swiss actually had gonads...seems like the most tolerant nation on earth has finally gotten some common sense. ;)
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070901/D8RCI31O0.html
Swiss Expulsion Proposal Draws Criticism
By FRANK JORDANS
GENEVA (AP) - The campaign poster was blatant in its xenophobic symbolism: Three white sheep kicking out a black sheep over a caption that read "for more security." The message was not from a fringe force in Switzerland's political scene but from its largest party.
The nationalist Swiss People's Party is proposing a deportation policy that anti-racism campaigners say evokes Nazi-era practices. Under the plan, entire families would be expelled if their children are convicted of a violent crime, drug offenses or benefits fraud.
The party is trying to collect the 100,000 signatures needed to force a referendum on the issue. If approved in a referendum, the law would be the only one of its kind in Europe.
"We believe that parents are responsible for bringing up their children. If they can't do it properly, they will have to bear the consequences," Ueli Maurer, president of the People's Party, told The Associated Press.
Ronnie Bernheim of the Swiss Foundation against Racism and Anti-Semitism said the proposal was similar to the Nazi practice of "Sippenhaft" - or kin liability - whereby relatives of criminals were held responsible for his or her crimes and punished equally.
Similar practices occurred during Stalin's purges in the early days of the Soviet Union and the 1966-76 Cultural Revolution in China, when millions were persecuted for their alleged ideological failings.
"As soon as the first 10 families and their children have been expelled from the country, then things will get better at a stroke," said Maurer, whose party controls the Justice Ministry and shares power in an unwieldy coalition that includes all major parties.
He explained that his party has long campaigned to make deportation compulsory for convicted immigrants rather than an optional and rarely applied punishment.
The party claims foreigners - who make up about 20 percent of the population - are four times more likely to commit crimes than Swiss nationals.
Bernheim said the vast majority of Switzerland's immigrants are law-abiding and warned against generalizations.
"If you don't treat a complicated issue with the necessary nuance and care, then you won't do it justice," he said.
Commentators have expressed horror over the symbolism used by the People's Party to make its point.
"This way of thinking shows an obvious blood-and-soil mentality," read one editorial in the Zurich daily Tages-Anzeiger, calling for a broader public reaction against the campaign.
So far, however, there has been little popular backlash against the posters.
"We haven't had any complaints," said Maurer.
The city of Geneva - home to Switzerland's humanitarian traditions as well as the European headquarters of the United Nations and the U.N. Refugee Agency, or UNHCR - said the campaign was likely to stir up intolerance.
The UNHCR said the law would run contrary to the U.N. refugee convention, of which Switzerland is a signatory.
But observers say the People's Party's hardline stance on immigration could help it in the Oct. 21 national elections. In 2004, the party successfully campaigned for tighter immigration laws using the image of black hands reaching into a pot filled with Swiss passports.
"It's certainly no coincidence that the People's Party launched this initiative before the elections," said Oliver Geden, a political scientist at the Berlin Institute for International and Security Affairs.
He said provocative campaigns such as this had worked well for the party in the past.
"The symbol of the black sheep was clearly intended to have a double meaning. On the one hand there's the familiar idea of the black sheep, but a lot of voters are also going to associate it with the notion of dark-skinned drug dealers," said Geden.
The party also has put forward a proposal to ban the building of minaret towers alongside mosques. And one of its leading figures, Justice Minister Christoph Blocher, said he wants to soften anti-racism laws because they prevent freedom of speech.
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Sounds like a great idea. I'm all for it.
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I bet it has at least 80% support. A GREAT idea!
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This is the logical outcome of debased ideologies like "multiculturalism". We see now how Europe is collapsing under the weight of Islam and its death connections to Middle East Oil for the most part. What sickens me is that there is always a Bolshevik Jew that runs and backs behind some anti-racism laws or rationalizes the real problem of how to get rid of the Muslims and criminal Turd World filth with "Antisemitism" and Nazism. I'm going to follow this story. thanks..
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Problem is it is still a Nazi country. A smart Nazi country, but still a nation responsible for the murder of six million Jews by bankrolling their German kinsmen to the north. >:(
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The Swiss are strictly amoral and impartial on matters of international affairs. The bandits from ALL sides have their loot stashed away in the Swiss banks.
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Now this I agree. You know, I was thinking, if the Socialist UN loving Swiss did go through with it it would be an immense precident for other nations, especially Israel, to follow suit. Perhaps Israel, if it finally attends to logic and morality, will learn from the Swiss and expell their Muslims as well? Might just be a stepping stone for Canada and US to do likewise. Hey, If ISrael did expell their Muslims and held ALL of our land, I'd have no problem if Canada sent me a yellow card saying please relocate to ISrael. I'd say thank you and good riddence.....imo. I like Canada very much but since it has become a Socialistic/Fascistic state its appeal to me becomes less and less each day. Canada is a great country to which I love but its open borders and extreme liberal policies are truly bringing it down....
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I don'nt like the swissmost are either leftists or nazis
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Now this I agree. You know, I was thinking, if the Socialist UN loving Swiss did go through with it it would be an immense precident for other nations, especially Israel, to follow suit. Perhaps Israel, if it finally attends to logic and morality, will learn from the Swiss and expell their Muslims as well? Might just be a stepping stone for Canada and US to do likewise. Hey, If ISrael did expell their Muslims and held ALL of our land, I'd have no problem if Canada sent me a yellow card saying please relocate to ISrael. I'd say thank you and good riddence.....imo. I like Canada very much but since it has become a Socialistic/Fascistic state its appeal to me becomes less and less each day. Canada is a great country to which I love but its open borders and extreme liberal policies are truly bringing it down....
I got into a discussion with a Jamaican the other day. I was under the impression that it was easy for people from the Islands to immigrate to Canada possibly because of the past relations they both had with England. It seems that many of the island hoppers that are in the U.S come through Canada first. He told me I was wrong about Canada and that it was just as hard to get into Canada as it is getting into the U.S legally. Was this guy telling me the truth because it seems that most Jamaicans use that route through Canada.