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Title: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
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Israeli neo-Nazis arrested


Police in Petah Tivka arrest 10 local teens suspected of assaulting passers-by, spray-painting swastikas

Raanan Ben-Zur Published:  09.09.07, 00:50 / Israel Jewish Scene 





Ten teenagers from Petah Tikva were arrested recently on suspicion of membership in a local neo-Nazi cell, it was cleared publication Saturday night. According to police, the cell is headed by 19-year-old Eli Buanitov, a city resident known as 'Nazi Eli'.


 

Buanitov is suspected of having led his peers in cruel attacks on innocent by-standers, including minorities such as gays, foreign workers, and homeless people, as well as men wearing yarmulkes.

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The group is also suspected of having ties to neo-Nazi organizations abroad, whom they are thought to be trying to imitate. Police believe the boys used to meet frequently and exchange Hitler salutes.

 

All but one of the group members are non-Jewish immigrants from the former Soviet Union, who arrived in Israel via the law of return. The last member is a temporary resident of the State. As such, the police's youth division, who uncovered the affair, referred to it as complicated and sensitive.


 

An investigation into the group was launched over a year ago, in response to two separate incidents of neo-Nazi graffiti in Petah Tikva.

 

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In March 2006, swastikas were spray-painted on walls of a synagogue in the city, with the words 'White Power' written above them. Walls of an adjacent apartment building bore the words "death to Jews" in red paint, along with the letters 'WP'.

 

Two months later, swastikas were painted on a main street in Petach Tikva. At that time, the name 'Rammstein' – a German heavy-metal group accused of fascist sympathies - was painted on the door of a local synagogue
 




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Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: EagleEye on September 08, 2007, 06:15:20 PM
Are these self-hating "Russian Jews," or are these simply Russians who have Israeli citizenship and are not converted or Jewish in any way?  I know Russians have been causing trouble in Israel...
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: mord on September 08, 2007, 06:18:38 PM
Are these self-hating "Russian Jews," or are these simply Russians who have Israeli citizenship and are not converted or Jewish in any way?  I know Russians have been causing trouble in Israel...
none Jewish Russians with Israeli citizenship
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: mord on September 08, 2007, 06:18:54 PM
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Police bust Petah Tikva neo-Nazi ring
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Police have cracked a neo-Nazi ring composed of immigrants from the former Soviet Union operating in the Petah Tikva area, police announced Saturday night, following the arrests of alleged gang members and the lifting of a gag order on the case.


A neo-Nazi gang member executes a "heil-Hitler" salute while holding an IDF-issue rifle.
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The arrests followed a more than yearlong investigation by the youth crimes division of the Central District Central Investigative Unit.



Police described the affair as "complex and sensitive," revealing that a group of youths acted on the basis of Nazi ideology.

Police emphasized that all of the youths - except for one - were Israeli citizens who had made aliya under the Law of Return. The majority, police said, were immigrants who lived in the center of the country and identified religiously as Christians.

Police have thus far arrested nine members of the group, who, according to suspicions, worked to propagate Hitler's ideology in the streets of Israel, while establishing relations with neo-Nazi groups overseas and attempting to imitate their activities.

Eli Boanitov, a 19-year-old Petah Tikva resident, allegedly headed the group, which police said displayed "cult-like characteristics."

As the group's leader, Boanitov allegedly selected people for membership and served as the group's instructor and main propagator of Nazi ideology both on an ideological and operational level. Police said Boanitov "led them to attack, in a cruel and brutal manner, citizens and innocent people belonging to various groups including Asians, drug addicts, gays, punks and kippa-wearing Jews."

The group was uncovered during the investigation into two 2006 incidents in Petah Tikva in which synagogues were desecrated by swastikas and other graffiti.

Police spokesmen said Saturday night that "because of the severity of the incidents, the great public interest and the importance of apprehending these suspects, then-Central District Commander (now police chief) Insp.-Gen. David Cohen assigned the investigation to the elite CIU's youth crimes team, led by Ch.-Supt. Revital Almog."

Police said that their big break came in June 2007.

Information received by police directed them to the group of suspects. Initial checks on two of the youths - Boanitov (nicknamed Eli the Nazi), and 20-year-old Ilya Bondranenko - detectives said, increased their suspicions, and the two were taken in for questioning.

Under questioning, Boanitov and Bondranenko denied all of the allegations against them, but following searches of their houses, police recovered Nazi materials including journals with sketches of swastikas, Web sites with Nazi content and neo-Nazi movies, including a German-language film about Nazism in America.

On the suspects' cell phones, police discovered pictures in which the suspects were engaging in Nazi salutes and, in one picture, one of the suspects was seen holding a torn Israeli flag.

The suspects were also sporting numerous Nazi-associated tattoos including "White Power" accompanied by Celtic crosses and a barbed-wire fence. The number 88 were tattooed on members' fingers, with police explaining that "8" represents the ordinal place of the letter "H," thus standing for "HH" or Heil Hitler.

The suspects were first arrested on July 23, and were released to house arrest on July 31.   :o :o

Police said that the more advanced stages of the investigation were largely successful due to the "professional and determined work" of the Central District Fraud Squad's Computer Crimes Unit, which labored to reconstruct deleted files that the suspects allegedly concealed and deleted from their computers.

"The evidence spoke for itself and strengthened the need for investigation because of suspicions of racism," said police, describing the computer material as pictures and movies that were "difficult to view." The evidence documents members of the gang attacking what police describe as "helpless people" belonging to minority groups.

"In the movies, one can see gang members punching and kicking, using broken bottles and everything at hand, attacking innocent victims without any prior contact or instigation," said police spokesmen.

In the movies, the faces of the suspects are frequently hidden by superimposed swastikas and at times, the suspects are seen wearing Nazi-style uniforms and delivering Nazi salutes, as well as delivering statements calling for the burning and destruction of the Jewish people.

Police documented computer conversations allegedly carried out between Boanitov and others in which he both confirms and takes pride in his participation in neo-Nazi activity, as well as inspiring others to join though explaining racial-purity theory and justifying assaults on Jews and minorities.

In the course of the conversations, Boanitov allegedly goes so far as to express his desire to continue to attack, injure and even murder.

In an unusual move, police called for immediate legislation to "prevent individuals and groups from adopting or acting according to Nazi ideology in the State of Israel."
  They should be put in prison and sodomized
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: Ehud on September 08, 2007, 06:25:20 PM
They should be sent back to Russia.  This gives even more support to Chaim's claim that he should be allowed into Israel.  Non-Jewish NAZIS are allowed to come to Israel and stay in Israel despite making NAZI ATTACKS against synagogues and innocent people and say that they want to burn and destroy Jews and they're only given HOUSE ARREST, and Chaim, an orthodox Jew who devoted his life to freeing soviet Jewry and helping the Jewish people in every way is not allowed.
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: mord on September 08, 2007, 06:28:07 PM
But first punished
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: Ehud on September 08, 2007, 06:30:47 PM
I was going to say that they should be imprisoned with all of the Arab Muslims so they can be beaten and abused by Muslim Nazis but then I thought, wait a second, they would probably become best friends with the Muslim Nazis.  Maybe they should be imprisoned with the Jewish homosexual pedophiles who could rape them like that animal who escaped from prison.  I'm sure there is at least one homosexual in an Israeli prison who would gladly and happily rape these boys. 
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: mord on September 08, 2007, 06:32:26 PM
I was going to say that they should be imprisoned with all of the Arab Muslims so they can be beaten and abused by Muslim Nazis but then I thought, wait a second, they would probably become best friends with the Muslim Nazis.  Maybe they should be imprisoned with the Jewish homosexual pedophiles who could rape them like that animal who escaped from prison.  I'm sure there is at least one homosexual in an Israeli prison who would gladly and happily rape these boys. 
Yes that would be good
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: Rivera on September 08, 2007, 06:41:21 PM
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Non-Jewish IDF Soldier Found to be Neo-Nazi A non-Jewish IDF soldier who immigrated to Israel from Russia was arrested Wednesday and found to belong to a neo-Nazi organization.
Police detectives searched the IDF soldier's vehicle after they deemed his behavior suspicious. Heroin was found and he was arrested. During his arrest, the soldier told the police officers that he was a neo-Nazi and hated the State of Israel.

The 20-year-old soldier, who serves in a non-combat position, has a swastika tattooed on his left arm.

After searching his and his mother's home in the Samaria city of Ariel, police discovered Nazi literature and material on his computer from neo-Nazi groups around the globe. He even showed the officers personal correspondence between himself and neo-Nazi groups.

He hates Jews, hates the IDF and considers himself a Nazi, according to a police spokesman.

The soldier's mother, who immigrated to Israel with her son four years ago, also professed support for neo-Nazi groups and hatred for Israel. She was also taken into custody for possible connection with neo-Nazi groups.

"We immigrated for the absorption package," the soldier's mother said when challenged.

During the subsequent police investigation, suspicions arose that the two may have immigrated to Israel using counterfeit documents. However, due to the complex nature of Israel's Law of Return, it is possible that they arrived legitimately. The law, modeled in response to the Nazi Nuremberg Laws, gives anyone with even one Jewish grandparent the right to receive automatic Israeli citizenship.

The Interior Ministry said it was checking into the matter and will consider revoking the citizenship of the two if they indeed used fraudulent documents, but warned that such action is complicated from a legal perspective.

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Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: EagleEye on September 08, 2007, 06:44:03 PM
Russian nazis are ALWAYS self-hating.  Hitler hated Russians 2nd place to how much he hated Jews.  Slavs were hated, Russians were hated the most of all the slavs.

A Russian Nazi is analagous to a Jewish nazi.  Both are self-hating.
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: Nic Brookes on September 08, 2007, 06:44:32 PM
you have posted this twice and i doubt any of your "HATE WHITEY" stuff will be tolerated here.

have a nice day
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: mord on September 08, 2007, 06:48:26 PM
They have many Russian nazis in Israel probably ron paul supporters :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: newman on September 08, 2007, 06:51:26 PM
They should be deported.

Only a russian goy (or a mulim arab ) could be that big a low-life pig to emmigrate somehere he hated just for a few bucks.
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: Ehud on September 08, 2007, 06:52:16 PM
This is disturbing.  Every Nazi discovered in Israel should be jailed for an amount of time and then deported.  If someone has a swastika tattoo, he should be deported, if someone makes a single defacement or threat to anyone, he should be deported. 

I wonder if one of the youths in these stories was Roni?
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: mord on September 08, 2007, 06:59:16 PM
This is disturbing.  Every Nazi discovered in Israel should be jailed for an amount of time and then deported.  If someone has a swastika tattoo, he should be deported, if someone makes a single defacement or threat to anyone, he should be deported. 

I wonder if one of the youths in these stories was Roni?
It's very possible
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: EagleEye on September 08, 2007, 07:01:34 PM
All Nazis and self-hating Jews should get the death penalty if they engage in violence, and be deported if they do not.
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: mord on September 08, 2007, 07:03:30 PM
Send them to afghanistan
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: Ehud on September 08, 2007, 07:06:23 PM
All Nazis and self-hating Jews should get the death penalty if they engage in violence, and be deported if they do not.

These people weren't self-hating Jews though, (unless Roni was involved) they're self-hating Russians.
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: newman on September 08, 2007, 07:08:40 PM
All Nazis and self-hating Jews should get the death penalty if they engage in violence, and be deported if they do not.

These people weren't self-hating Jews though, (unless Roni was involved) they're self-hating Russians.

You mean Jew-hating russians (although that's redundant).
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: EagleEye on September 08, 2007, 07:08:59 PM
Yes I realize that.

As I said above, Russians were targets of Nazis, yet now some self-hating Russians embrace Hitler for shock value.
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: Ehud on September 08, 2007, 07:15:57 PM
All Nazis and self-hating Jews should get the death penalty if they engage in violence, and be deported if they do not.

These people weren't self-hating Jews though, (unless Roni was involved) they're self-hating Russians.

You mean Jew-hating russians (although that's redundant).

Yeah well I meant self-hating Russians because they look up a man and a movement that was responsible for some of the worst horrors the Russian people have ever seen.
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: EagleEye on September 08, 2007, 07:17:58 PM
Anybody who is not "nordic" and embraces Hitler is automatically self-hating.
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: mord on September 08, 2007, 07:23:36 PM
Russian /Israeli nazi






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Shot at 2007-09-08
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: EagleEye on September 08, 2007, 07:25:13 PM
Its pathetic.  They aren't even racially germanic.  They aren't even real nazis, they are fake.
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: newman on September 08, 2007, 07:26:46 PM
I was going to say that they should be imprisoned with all of the Arab Muslims so they can be beaten and abused by Muslim Nazis but then I thought, wait a second, they would probably become best friends with the Muslim Nazis.  Maybe they should be imprisoned with the Jewish homosexual pedophiles who could rape them like that animal who escaped from prison.  I'm sure there is at least one homosexual in an Israeli prison who would gladly and happily rape these boys. 
Yes that would be good

I'd like to send some of our 600 lb wild boers (pigs) over so the Jews can feed these nazis to them alive!.
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: mord on September 08, 2007, 07:26:55 PM
Its pathetic.  They aren't even racially germanic.  They aren't even real nazis, they are fake.
I know, my friend is pure German he would have nothing but scorn for them
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: mord on September 08, 2007, 07:27:52 PM
I was going to say that they should be imprisoned with all of the Arab Muslims so they can be beaten and abused by Muslim Nazis but then I thought, wait a second, they would probably become best friends with the Muslim Nazis.  Maybe they should be imprisoned with the Jewish homosexual pedophiles who could rape them like that animal who escaped from prison.  I'm sure there is at least one homosexual in an Israeli prison who would gladly and happily rape these boys. 
Yes that would be good

I'd like to send some of our 600 lb wild boers (pigs) over so the Jews can feed these nazis to them alive!.
they have wild Boar in northern Israel :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: mord on September 08, 2007, 08:02:32 PM
When Rabbi Kahane zt'l and the old JDL would have beat these russo nazis to a pulp
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: AussieJTFer on September 08, 2007, 08:24:51 PM
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1188392567423&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

These creatures should be killed.
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: Rivera on September 08, 2007, 08:29:18 PM
I posted these articles to show how dangerous white supremacy groups are. the JDf is teaching White supremacy. because my name is Rivera you would hate me without knowing who I am. I am a ben Noah follower of the 7 noahide laws Hashem gave to the nations of the world. I am  lover of Hashem and the Jewish people. Hashem not only accepts me but gives me internal life. but you here at this jtf site are teaching hated of every one out side of the white race. you are hating people that Hashem loves. 
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: mord on September 08, 2007, 08:31:43 PM
i agreed with you why complain
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: EagleEye on September 08, 2007, 08:34:42 PM
There are a few black supporters of JTF...
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: MasterWolf1 on September 08, 2007, 08:38:25 PM
The truth doesn't hurt you posted 3 times the same thread.
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: mosquewatch on September 08, 2007, 08:39:35 PM
I posted these articles to show how dangerous white supremacy groups are. the JDf is teaching White supremacy. because my name is Rivera you would hate me without knowing who I am. I am a ben Noah follower of the 7 noahide laws Hashem gave to the nations of the world. I am  lover of Hashem and the Jewish people. Hashem not only accepts me but gives me internal life. but you here at this jtf site are teaching hated of every one out side of the white race. you are hating people that Hashem loves. 

I do not judge people by the color of their skin, but the content of their heart  ( mind ) .
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: newman on September 08, 2007, 08:46:02 PM
JTF judges on culture and beliefs.....NOT race.

If a vast majority of blacks have a backward culture and twisted beliefs, that is that. It's NOT racism!
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: newman on September 08, 2007, 08:49:05 PM
I agree. No cops, no trials....righteous Jews ATTACK!
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: Ehud on September 08, 2007, 08:53:52 PM
We hate all evil people, INCLUDING EVIL WHITES.  JTF hates arab whites and evil white nazis the most of all!!

By the way, some Muslim Nazis are white. 
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: The Shadow on September 08, 2007, 09:21:35 PM
You just worded the statement poorly, you made it seem like all whites hate Jews, which caused a bad reaction. And you also made it seem like white Jews are racists also. We Jews realize we have true Christrian friends here at JTF, and we respect them greatly, and I'm sure you offended them.   However, I don't think you intentionally meant any harm.  Just be more careful when you write statements.
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: Mishmaat on September 08, 2007, 09:22:59 PM
I posted these articles to show how dangerous white supremacy groups are. the JDf is teaching White supremacy. because my name is Rivera you would hate me without knowing who I am. I am a ben Noah follower of the 7 noahide laws Hashem gave to the nations of the world. I am  lover of Hashem and the Jewish people. Hashem not only accepts me but gives me internal life. but you here at this jtf site are teaching hated of every one out side of the white race. you are hating people that Hashem loves. 

Get bent. White supremacy? We welcome every decent person of different ethnic backgrounds to our movement. I, personally, don't believe in the genetic superiority/inferiority of different racial groups. If this were a "white supremacy" group I would not be involved. Your lame attempt to marginalize us will not work here. Of course, you're always welcome to post and debate.
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: kahaneloyalist on September 08, 2007, 09:24:40 PM
All Ben Noach are accepted 100% by Jews, you are the Chasedei HaOlam(Righteous of the world)
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: The Shadow on September 08, 2007, 09:51:54 PM
I have a strong feeling if Chaim called for a large number of JTF supporters  to show up for a rally against the KKK or something similar, our Christian friends would join us Jews in the streets for a possible physical confrontation with our enemies.   I think Chaim could get a 100 people in short order.   
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: mosquewatch on September 08, 2007, 10:03:21 PM
I have a strong feeling if Chaim called for a large number of JTF supporters  to show up for a rally against the KKK or something similar, our Christian friends would join us Jews in the streets for a possible physical confrontation with our enemies.   I think Chaim could get a 100 people in short order.   

I'd show up.
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: ape on September 08, 2007, 10:11:41 PM
i agreed with you why complain

We don't hate roy innis, Alan Keyes, Michael Innis...the list goes on
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: mosquewatch on September 08, 2007, 10:34:56 PM
Rivera

What is your agenda ?
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: nopeaceforland on September 08, 2007, 11:29:50 PM
Can't we neuter this moron, this way he can't infect the rest of the world.  Israel should beat this piece of drek to death, cut off his tootsie roll and cadbury eggs, stick them in his mouth. Then carve into his chest before death, "You Idolize Hitler, This is What Happens To You! Shana Tovah!
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: Ultra Requete on September 09, 2007, 02:46:06 AM
Judging from article Mayority of them are self-hating Jews, although with no conection to Judaism courtesy of Soviet Union 70 years of imposed state atheism; they hate comies but have little common with religius jews so instead of joining Piss Now they play nazim. In the future I bet they'll vote Kadima LOL! ::)
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: EagleEye on September 09, 2007, 03:13:57 AM
It's completely possible for someone with Jewish ancestry to play Nazi.  I can tell you that for a fact.

The person in the picture, however, looked very Russian.
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: Ultra Requete on September 09, 2007, 03:14:25 AM
We're alience of good people (and i do hope G-d's people too); whateever their race or religion is; We're not nazis we're just not self hating. Why don't you introduce your self first Rivera?
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: Ehud on September 09, 2007, 03:17:11 AM
This is disturbing.  Every Nazi discovered in Israel should be jailed for an amount of time and then deported.  If someone has a swastika tattoo, he should be deported, if someone makes a single defacement or threat to anyone, he should be deported. 

I wonder if one of the youths in these stories was Roni?
It's very possible


Roni is Sfardic, not Russian.



Yeah, I know that, but not every single one of those stories said, "every person who did this was a Russian".  There are still probably many attacks that are unsolved, who knows who did them?
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: newman on September 09, 2007, 03:22:26 AM
Maybe Arabs did it too. After all, the Arabs in Eretz Yisrael supported Hitler.



As did the arabs of Egypt and Iraq.
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: RationalThought110 on September 09, 2007, 03:30:01 AM
It's a shame that after the JDL helped get them into Israel, this is how they show their appreciation.  It makes it seem like it wasn't worth the sacrifice of the JDL. 

 
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: RationalThought110 on September 09, 2007, 03:31:18 AM
Are these self-hating "Russian Jews," or are these simply Russians who have Israeli citizenship and are not converted or Jewish in any way?  I know Russians have been causing trouble in Israel...
none Jewish Russians with Israeli citizenship


If possible, could you try to be a little more coherent?  With no punctuation, I have no idea what you mean with your post.
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: EagleEye on September 09, 2007, 03:38:48 AM
he meant "non-Jewish Russians with Israeli Citizenship."
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: RationalThought110 on September 09, 2007, 03:44:08 AM
he meant "non-Jewish Russians with Israeli Citizenship."

Thanks. 

Especially since they undermine it, they should be deported.
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: Ultra Requete on September 09, 2007, 03:57:25 AM
All Arabs did this exept the Jordanian Hashemid tribe and their british trained A-rabic Legion. Olmert wanted to give the King Abdualh the Yesha but even Jordanians can't stand the Fakistanians so he refused the offer. ::) 
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: AussieJTFer on September 09, 2007, 05:27:31 AM
All Jew haters in Israel whether they are arabs or russian excrement should be instantly killed.
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: newman on September 09, 2007, 06:56:36 AM
All Jew haters in Israel whether they are arabs or russian excrement should be instantly killed.

I'm with you.

The Jews finally leave nazi europe and get a Jewish State after 2000 years and for what?

More swastikas and pogroms!! >:(
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: newman on September 09, 2007, 07:04:02 AM
And you can thank Hitler for that too because Israel uses Hitler's defintion of a Jew for The Law of "Return". How can a Russian goy "return" to Israel if he's not Jewish? Chaim fought to save Soviet Jews and now the kikes in Israel import this drek along with them. The drek are part of the culture that oppressed them in the first place.



Many of those russian pigs have only ONE Jewish grandparent. The other three were probably pogromists!
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: mord on September 09, 2007, 07:08:30 AM
If the Israeli's had any baytzim they would turn them over to enraged citizens,but then again the majority of Israelis have no pride and probably would be scared of these punks
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: newman on September 09, 2007, 07:10:03 AM
And you can thank Hitler for that too because Israel uses Hitler's defintion of a Jew for The Law of "Return". How can a Russian goy "return" to Israel if he's not Jewish? Chaim fought to save Soviet Jews and now the kikes in Israel import this drek along with them. The drek are part of the culture that oppressed them in the first place.



Many of those russian pigs have only ONE Jewish grandparent. The other three were probably pogromists!


Are you suggesting that one of the grandparents were raped?



No.

But a pogromist might still marry a self-hater if he/she converted.

Who knows?

But the russian goyim were all pogromist, Jew-haters so one Jewish grandparent and three goyim ones is still more Jew-hating goyim than Jew.
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: AussieJTFer on September 09, 2007, 07:27:54 AM
These same russians have also imported other heathen vices into Israel like alcoholism, random beatings and stabbings, the mafia, decadent nightclubs and bars, pig products and general violence and thuggery. There were no such things as pub brawls and stabbings amongst Israelis before the mass Russian aliyah.
It must be said that these disgusting crimes are not the product of the Russian Jews who have provided many positives, they are the product the non-Jews who were somehow allowed into Israel by the retarded ruling establishment of Israel for some moronic reason.
A Kahanist government would deal with these russian monkeys in the correct manner.
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: newman on September 09, 2007, 07:37:16 AM
These same russians have also imported other heathen vices into Israel like alcoholism, random beatings and stabbings, the mafia, decadent nightclubs and bars, pig products and general violence and thuggery. There were no such things as pub brawls and stabbings amongst Israelis before the mass Russian aliyah.
It must be said that these disgusting crimes are not the product of the Russian Jews who have provided many positives, they are the product the non-Jews who were somehow allowed into Israel by the retarded ruling establishment of Israel for some moronic reason.
A Kahanist government would deal with these russian monkeys in the correct manner.

They should be given two choices only:

Back to russia immediately or dead in a ditch NOW?
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: RationalThought110 on September 09, 2007, 07:41:11 AM
And you can thank Hitler for that too because Israel uses Hitler's defintion of a Jew for The Law of "Return". How can a Russian goy "return" to Israel if he's not Jewish? Chaim fought to save Soviet Jews and now the kikes in Israel import this drek along with them. The drek are part of the culture that oppressed them in the first place.




After WWI ended, could Britain have been prevented from occupying Eretz Yisrael?
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: Dexter on September 09, 2007, 08:30:35 AM
This is disturbing.  Every Nazi discovered in Israel should be jailed for an amount of time and then deported.  If someone has a swastika tattoo, he should be deported, if someone makes a single defacement or threat to anyone, he should be deported. 

I wonder if one of the youths in these stories was Roni?
Roni was sfaradic "jew"...

The israeli goverment gave a lot of russian "Jews" (actually, their grand-grand-grand grandpa from their mothers/father sides were Jewish) to come here in the 90', now we have a lot of Xmes parties drek and silvester drek (What a JEWISH state  :o) AND we have Nazis, all supported by the goverment (money, place to live ect') and by the media ("israeli" russian news channel, the Russia "MTV" etc' AND silverster parties of course) and we now have A LOT of shrimps, pigs and other stors that sells those things .

AND ALL BECAUSE THE RUSSIAN ALIYA AT THE 90' .
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: newman on September 09, 2007, 08:34:16 AM
and we now have A LOT of shrimps, pigs and other stors that sells that things .

AND ALL BECAUSE THE RUSSIAN ALIYA AT THE 90' .

When Kahanists are in power, there'll be a russian exodus.
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: Dexter on September 09, 2007, 09:00:59 AM
And you can thank Hitler for that too because Israel uses Hitler's defintion of a Jew for The Law of "Return". How can a Russian goy "return" to Israel if he's not Jewish? Chaim fought to save Soviet Jews and now the kikes in Israel import this drek along with them. The drek are part of the culture that oppressed them in the first place.



Many of those russian pigs have only ONE Jewish grandparent. The other three were probably pogromists!


Are you suggesting that one of the grandparents were raped?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cossack
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: White Israelite on September 10, 2007, 09:37:48 AM
I was reading StørmFrønt, apparently many of the members are having a field day about this. There are mixed results. Some are saying "should we support them?", "You know, I heard Hitler had a few half Jewish soldiers" to responses like "This is equivalent to someone with negro blood in them becoming a national socialist" and "This is just to divert attention from Israel killing Palestinians".

I don't understand why anyone in their right mind with a tiny ounce of Jewish blood would ever have fantasies about being a Nazi. Are these guys insane? Hitler would have killed them for merely having Jewish grandparents. These seem to be very confused youth. One of them was quoted as saying

In one conversation, "Eli the Nazi" is heard saying: "My grandfather was a half-Jewboy. I will not have children so that this trash will not be born with even a tiny of percent of Jewboy blood."

I saw a video of them beating up a Jewish drug addict and he's on his knees begging them for forgiveness, it made me sick. If I were in a position like that, I would NEVER be on my knees. I would rather die on my feet and fight back. So sick of this victim mentality we have amongst ourselves. Of course I would never be in this position, I am armed 24/7 and I don't think i'd lose any sleep over a few dead Russians.
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: mord on September 10, 2007, 09:40:24 AM
Yea i agree picking on dope addict is no big deal they look like punks to meBtw i sent you a pm
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 10, 2007, 11:18:56 AM
There was an article in today's New York Post about it.  They are the ones who should be banned from Israel and not Chaim.
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: Hail Columbia on September 10, 2007, 06:00:35 PM
In one conversation, "Eli the Nazi" is heard saying: "My grandfather was a half-Jewboy. I will not have children so that this trash will not be born with even a tiny of percent of Jewboy blood."

Doesn't he know that under Nazi racial laws, anyone with less than two Jewish grandparents was considered "Aryan"?
Title: Re: "Israeli" Russian Nazis Caught and Chaim Is Not allowed Into Israel
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 10, 2007, 06:03:35 PM
They don't let Chaim in, but they let these scumbags in!!  What a joke!