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Title: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 14, 2007, 06:21:12 PM
This week, I am also involved with a forum that a board member of my co-op started.  The board election is next week and I started a post about which board member should be voted off.  One of them once made a statement that he will throw out all Jewish and elderly residents.  He was elected 5 years ago.  I haven't been kicked out yet, but I told a person who compained that I put his name down and why I hate him.  I put down why and the person called me a "racist" aganist a "good christian" man.  This person also threatened me by posting all over the co-op what I posted.  I said, "go ahead".  I was banned from that forum.  I feel that I need JTF's help in my situation.  Can someone help me?  Please have Jimmy or Chaim answer this post.  Maybe we can have a protest against this person.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Sarah on September 14, 2007, 06:26:55 PM
Against who Joe? :D
Whats the link to the forum? Why do people get voted off?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 14, 2007, 07:03:06 PM
I meant to say that the election is next month.  About the last 11 years, my Co-op has an election for the board of directors.  At least 3 spots on the 9 person board is up for election, sometimes more if someone quits or dies suddenly.  I person I started the poll is one of 2 people I know is up for re-election this year for 2 of the 5 spots that are open.  The person I wrote about made the comment 11 years ago when he was first on the board.  Most of the people on the board at the time were elderly and Jewish.  He never denied making this comment.  I asked him if it were true, he wanted to know who told me that he said that.  I tried to get the word out, but, there are so many people here who like him that I'm the one who gets attacked when I tell my side of the story.  They never believe me and accouse me of racism.  The person I am complaing about, even made a complaint to the police against me when he accoused me of putting up notices in every building telling what type of person he is.  It worked till 2002 when in his 7th attempt to get elected, he finally did.  He used the sympathy vote because at the time, he worked as a fire marshall in the FDNY.  I need help to spread the word in my co-op from JTF.  If I get help, I could finally have some protection from my fellow JTFers.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 14, 2007, 07:04:51 PM
The blog address for the forum I'm talking about is

http://bigsixtowers.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 14, 2007, 07:17:17 PM
Big Six towers is the co-op that I live in.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 14, 2007, 07:27:54 PM
Can someone from JTF help me organize a protest?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 14, 2007, 10:11:52 PM
I guess no one want to help me with my problem.  There's loyaty for you!!  With all the time I have spent on the forum and website, the least you can do give a little help to a member who is asking for it.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 14, 2007, 10:15:06 PM
I guess that JTF only talks big and don't act big.  I believed in the cause of JTF.  Not anymore.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Hail Columbia on September 14, 2007, 10:18:34 PM
I guess that JTF only talks big and don't act big.  I believed in the cause of JTF.  Not anymore.

That's because right now is the Sabbath, and since a very good percentage of our membership is Jewish, they not available right now.  Calm down and be patient.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 14, 2007, 10:20:00 PM
I'm trying to be Hail.  It's just frustrating.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 14, 2007, 10:20:55 PM
I asked my question before my little problem.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 14, 2007, 10:23:06 PM
Hey Yakov, Can you ask him for me on the next Ask JTF?  You can use what I posted first and ask for his opinion?  Thanks for any help you can give me.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Sarah on September 15, 2007, 06:50:00 AM
Hey Joe,
I haven't asked a question for this week, and i'm not intending too, i'll copy in paste it for this weeks slot...um..if thats allowed.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Schmo on September 15, 2007, 02:21:26 PM
Yes, it's allowed. Just say "I'm posting this on behalf of Joe Gutfeld.".

Yakov, shouldn't you be observing the Sabbath?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Ehud on September 15, 2007, 02:30:50 PM
Yes but I'm also not the only Jew on now. I'm not doing official JTF work now but rather just posting. Tell it it to Jabotinsky who posts official threads saying to rate YouTube videos on Shabbat and Yom Tov.



Yeah but I don't keep the legal requirements for Shabbat or the holidays and those threads are intended for the non-Jews on the forum.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Trumpeldor on September 15, 2007, 03:55:45 PM
everybody chill out
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Sarah on September 15, 2007, 04:05:50 PM
everybody chill out

Why? There is nothing wrong.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Ari on September 15, 2007, 10:57:15 PM
Best of luck, Joe.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 16, 2007, 09:42:01 PM
Thank you Sarah. Hey you guys I don't like the fact that you turn my posts into something different that what I originally post.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Schmo on September 16, 2007, 09:47:03 PM
Thank you Sarah. Hey you guys I don't like the fact that you turn my posts into something different that what I originally post.

That happens to EVERY post.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 16, 2007, 09:52:04 PM
Well, I don't like it when it comes to my posts.  This is the second one of my posts that my fellow JTFers have chaged the subject.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 16, 2007, 10:02:09 PM
My co-op is trying to shut me up and they are not successful.  And no one here will shut me up.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Schmo on September 16, 2007, 10:03:46 PM
My co-op is trying to shut me up and they are not successful.  And no one here will shut me up.

We're not interested in shutting you up.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 16, 2007, 10:06:48 PM
Sorry, I am just so frustrated over my situation in my co-op.  I am trying to get the truth out about an anti-semite who is currently on the Board of directors of my co-op.  When I do I get threatened and harrassed over it.  I need JTF's help in my situation.  I do hope I get it.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on September 16, 2007, 10:43:29 PM
Sorry, I am just so frustrated over my situation in my co-op.  I am trying to get the truth out about an anti-semite who is currently on the Board of directors of my co-op.  When I do I get threatened and harrassed over it.  I need JTF's help in my situation.  I do hope I get it.

How can we help?

In what city is your co-op?

I guess we can try to make a small demonstration.

Ask Chaim on ASK JTF.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Lisa on September 16, 2007, 11:15:22 PM
Joe, does your building have a managing company?  Would it help to complain to them? 
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 17, 2007, 12:49:02 PM
My co-op is in Queens, NY. To answer Lisa's question, my co-op does have a mangement company.  The problem is I have been compaining for years.  They don't act because they are afraid of a lawsuit from the man I have been complaining about.  In 1999, he threatened to sue because he lost the board election after the orginal election was delayed for 6 weeks because we didn't have enough votes to hold it on the orginal date.  He felt that if the election was held on the actual date, he would have won.  He didn't so he hired a lawyer and was in the process of suing.  It was writhdrawn when the co-op threaten to go through eviction procidings if he went through the lawsuit.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on September 17, 2007, 02:35:31 PM
We got many people in NYC.

If you're thinking of making a demonstration I guess you can get some people from JTF to go.

I can.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 17, 2007, 03:50:24 PM
I do hope so.  That's why I asked for help from JTF.  They're better at organizing protests.  I am tired of people supporting the man I have been writing against.  They think that I'm the one who's racist because I write negative things about him.  The board and the management are afraid of a law suit if they act against him.  He's that crazy.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Sarah on September 17, 2007, 04:00:29 PM
I'm sorry but Joe, what is a Co-op?

Yes a protest would unnerve the guy and you may be listened to once and for all. However Joe, you best be careful about the things you say or write against the man because i'm sure he can very well use them against you and twist it in a way that you would be at fault for libelling him.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: decimos on September 17, 2007, 05:06:11 PM
sound advice Sarah.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 17, 2007, 06:16:16 PM
A Co-op is short for cooperative.  A group of reasonably priced apartments.  So, far he has used what I said to support a conspairacy against him.  The reason why he got elected in the first place was that he was a fire marshall with the FDNY.  In 2002, on his 7th try of getting on the Board, he used the sympanthy vote of 9/11 to get elected.  What I have written about him is the truth.  He has never denied what he said about the jewish residents.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Sarah on September 17, 2007, 06:22:14 PM
A Co-op is short for cooperative.  A group of reasonably priced apartments.  So, far he has used what I said to support a conspairacy against him.  The reason why he got elected in the first place was that he was a fire marshall with the FDNY.  In 2002, on his 7th try of getting on the Board, he used the sympanthy vote of 9/11 to get elected.  What I have written about him is the truth.  He has never denied what he said about the jewish residents.

Then strike again Joe!
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 17, 2007, 06:23:10 PM
With help from you and my fellow JTFers.  God willing.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 17, 2007, 06:25:15 PM
Hey Sarah!!  Have you heard Chaim's response to your post in my behalf?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Sarah on September 17, 2007, 06:44:09 PM
No, its quite late where I am now, I'll listen to it Tomorrow God Willing. Maybe ask Yacov or someone else if you want to know what he said, before listening to it. Or you can fast forward it to your question on realplayer.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 17, 2007, 07:29:47 PM
I hope I get more advice on my problem.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 17, 2007, 07:37:09 PM
I hope that my fellow JTFers flood the Big Six Towers forum with their views of this outrage.  There is a link to the fourm at

http://bigsixtowers.blogspot.com/

Please make comments on my behalf.  I would really appreicate it.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on September 17, 2007, 07:40:50 PM
I hope that my fellow JTFers flood the Big Six Towers forum with their views of this outrage.  There is a link to the fourm at

http://bigsixtowers.blogspot.com/

Please make comments on my behalf.  I would really appreicate it.

Who's blog is that? Yours or the other guy?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 17, 2007, 07:56:58 PM
The person who made the blog is not the one I have been writing about.  He is another member of the board of directors of my co-op.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 17, 2007, 09:02:01 PM
I heard Chaim's answer on Ask Jtf.  I feel if JTF can help by making posts on my co-ops forum in my behalf may help.  Can Jimmy or someone else on my behalf pass along this idea to Chaim on the next Ask JTF show?  Thank you.  I wouldn't ask Chaim if I didn't think it will help.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on September 17, 2007, 09:45:41 PM
What did Chaim answer you?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 18, 2007, 07:18:45 PM
Chaim felt it might cause my problem to get worse.  But if it gets worse, he might be willing to help.  I am hoping that it won't get worse.  The person I have been writing about hasn't thrown out 1 jewish resident yet because he has to have a better reason like if I didn't pay my rent.  I just hope he doesn't get re-elected.  The deadline to throw your name into the hat for the election was yesterday.  I will know how many will run  against him in October.  I will update you all then.  Please flood the blog of my co-op in my defense.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 18, 2007, 07:23:06 PM
I just hope that everything will work out. 
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kahaneloyalist on September 18, 2007, 07:25:06 PM
whats the blog url?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 18, 2007, 07:25:29 PM
Hi Sarah!!  Did you hear Chaim's answer yet?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 18, 2007, 07:29:13 PM
The blog is at

http://bigsixtowers.blogspot.com/

under the title bst shareholders forum.  Please write as many posts as possible to blast the people on it.  Thank you for all your support.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 18, 2007, 08:04:31 PM
Can my fellow JTFers help me in flodding that forum?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on September 18, 2007, 08:11:54 PM
Here is a link directly to the forum: http://bigsixtowers.proboards102.com/

Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 18, 2007, 09:53:20 PM
Thanks alot you guys!!  Let's get even!!  I know you guys have the power.  I know from this forum.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 18, 2007, 09:59:26 PM
I hope you flood that forum.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on September 18, 2007, 10:08:02 PM
So what would you like us to write exactly?

Let's get the posts going. I'm gonna start right now.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 20, 2007, 11:37:08 AM
Just post supporting my point of view and that no one threatens a member of JTF.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 20, 2007, 12:44:30 PM
Just as long as you tell them not to threaten a member of Jtf and not get away with it. Don't use any curse words while doing it.  Are there any new posts bashing me on that forum?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 20, 2007, 12:46:30 PM
I'm still banned from my co-op's forum.  Please post to demand that I should no longer be banned.  If not, there will be a protest in my honor.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 20, 2007, 12:48:06 PM
Let's go JTF!!  Let's kick some Big Six Butt!!
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on September 20, 2007, 03:27:06 PM
I flooded the forum, but Israel Martinez deleted my posts.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 20, 2007, 05:23:37 PM
I'm not suprised.  Keep trying through!!  Thanks for everything.  He does not like derogatory statements.  That's why he banned me from the forum.  Just keep posting.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 20, 2007, 05:24:37 PM
Have you gotten any threats yet?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on September 20, 2007, 05:38:19 PM
They said that they will post my posts in the building. I told them to go right ahead.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 20, 2007, 07:11:00 PM
Is it the person called "Mind your Business"?  What have you been posting in my behalf?  I am curious.  I really appericate it.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 20, 2007, 07:13:29 PM
I hope that Sarah also has been making posts as well.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 20, 2007, 07:21:34 PM
I hope that the person does post what we said the the buildings.  I'm rreally surprised that the one making the threats hasn't gone through threat yet.  I guess the person is nothing but a coward.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 20, 2007, 07:22:49 PM
I am still banned from the forum. 
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on September 20, 2007, 08:03:50 PM
I've pretty much said that Bill is an anti-Semite who wants to kick Jews out of the co-op.

One said Hitler Rules and he backs him. Israel said to stop with my racist posts.

He just deleted them.

MYOB is I think Bill, but I don't know.

Joe, they think that I'm you.

Oh, and I'm the only one who posted there from JTF.

Joe, you can go and register under a new name. If they banned your IP, change your IP or use this site to go to the forum. http://www.unblockall.net/
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 20, 2007, 09:29:36 PM
I'm sorry that you got involved in this.  But I appriecte what you are doing.  I think that it's funny that they think you are me.  I hope that other people join my cause in this.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 20, 2007, 09:31:03 PM
I'm trying to start a new blog to protest Israel's blog.  I hope others start posting on the site I mentioned.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on September 20, 2007, 10:05:25 PM
I'm trying to start a new blog to protest Israel's blog.  I hope others start posting on the site I mentioned.

Nope, not yet.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 24, 2007, 10:50:16 AM
I just hope that more people from this forum loads up on my co-op's forum to support me.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 24, 2007, 11:04:18 AM
Please go to
http://bigsixtowers.blogspot.com/

If you want to help and support me in this disgrace.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 24, 2007, 11:09:57 AM
Please help me.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 24, 2007, 11:15:33 AM
I need help from my fellow JTFers.  More than just one.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on September 24, 2007, 11:27:10 AM
So this person wants people thrown out because they are Jews?  Its illegal for a landlord, or management company to discriminate based on religion, therefore what this board member is suggesting is illegal...if Im reading this right.  Are co-ops subsidized at all by the government?  How can other board members allow suggestions which are against the law by this person?  I'll help if I can.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: OZ77 on September 24, 2007, 11:43:59 AM
my friend, if  you are a jew your place is in Israel,
israel is the jewish home, not America - America is cursed for jews.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 24, 2007, 12:54:31 PM
Well, Kelly the person I have been writing about so far can't throw anyone out because the majority of the board has to agree and they won't allow what he wants to do.  But for years, Jews haven't been allowed into this co-op because of the old management here felt that "Jews are too much trouble".  Muslims have been moving in in recent years here.  But whites are still the majority population here.  I have posted the address of my co-op's forum on this posting.  Look for it and start posting in my behalf.  Yiserel has started posting and he has gotten the same threats as I have been.  I am still banned from that forum.  Any help from you and the other JTFers will be forever appericated.  Thank you so much.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on September 24, 2007, 12:59:07 PM
OMG that is SO against the law!  I dont know alot about co-ops but that person, whether he has the power to evict anyone or not needs to be thrown off...imagine the uproar if he was stopping people from moving in because they were black or muslim, it would make national headlines.  Can anyone join the forum ?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 24, 2007, 04:50:43 PM
Yes you can.  All you have to do is sign on like this forum.  The address that I posted goes to Big Six Towers news.  There is a link to the forum.  Just like the JTF web site and forum.  Yseral also sign on and also had gotten the same threats as I have.  Also the person writing the threats, also said that Hitler Rules.  No joke.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 24, 2007, 04:56:32 PM
Thanks Kelly!!
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 24, 2007, 05:56:03 PM
Do you have the address Kelly?  If you don't let me know.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 24, 2007, 05:58:40 PM
Did you post anything there yet Kelly?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 24, 2007, 06:06:18 PM
Kelly, I hope that you are not threatened like I was.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 24, 2007, 06:10:51 PM
I hope that others join your lead.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 24, 2007, 07:07:36 PM
Any news yet?  I am still banned from that forum.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 24, 2007, 07:16:16 PM
Did you try yet Kelly?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 25, 2007, 11:29:35 AM
Let me know.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 25, 2007, 12:50:01 PM
Let's go for it JTF!!
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 25, 2007, 06:09:01 PM
Did anyone else signed on to my co-op forum in my defense yet?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on September 25, 2007, 06:38:12 PM
Did anyone else signed on to my co-op forum in my defense yet?

No.

So much for JTF being your allies.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on September 26, 2007, 05:11:42 AM
No sorry, I was away all day yesterday, Ill try today

Ive looked at the blog, which articles are we supposed to be commenting on, most have 0 comments.  According to the one, not many people want to run for the board, so maybe thats how this moron keeps getting in.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on September 26, 2007, 10:31:18 AM
Just go to the forum, not the blog, and make new topics calling for the removal of the anti-Semite. I think his name is Bill Kregler or something like that.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Sarah on September 26, 2007, 11:09:28 AM
Yes, I signed up but is it Israel who you're having problems with, or the man he falsely said you called racist?

Why doesn't bill kreglar come on the forum?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 30, 2007, 06:09:09 PM
Maybe he's the one that has been making the threats to me.  I don't know because the one making the threats is not using his real name.  Yesterday, I saw Israel Martinez and he didn't say a word. But, I was getting a dirty look from him.  Maybe he doesn't like that there have been at least 3 people defending me on his forum.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Sarah on September 30, 2007, 06:12:12 PM
Well that hasn't anything to do with you, its the choice of those who have defended you, and hes being unjust.

I'm sorry Joe, but i'm still rather confused, is this co-op an apartment block or a business. They posts on the forum seem to refer to both.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 30, 2007, 06:14:35 PM
The co-op is a Michell-Lama project.  It means that it's supposed to be for middle-income families.  It runs like a business because we have a shopping center to drum income to the co-op. 
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 30, 2007, 06:19:12 PM
Just keep posting guys!
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on September 30, 2007, 06:22:33 PM
Whats the forum address, all I got was the blog, and there are few comments there.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 30, 2007, 09:04:46 PM
There is a link to the forum.  It's called BST shareholder forum.  Just go to the main page of the address I had listed and the link is there.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 01, 2007, 04:48:39 PM
Now Martinez is calling me a "rotten apple"  by posting racial statements.  Not knowing That at least 2 members are defending me on that forum.  I hope that you indentify yourselfs properly when posting on that forum and the reasons why you are making those statments.  Keep it up!!
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on October 01, 2007, 04:52:17 PM
I signed up as kelly, my acct is pending
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 01, 2007, 06:08:58 PM
Don't be suprised Kelly if they think that you are me.  I hope you blast them good.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 01, 2007, 06:12:19 PM
How come every time I post something on this topic, someone post something on another topic to top my topic, which is more important than those bums in Flushing.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 01, 2007, 06:48:10 PM
Martinez called what I and my fellow JTFers coming to my defense, stupid.  He still thinks that it's just me and no one else.  I would also like to know who has been threatening him and his family.  I do not want that to happen.  If you want to defend me, fine.  Just don't threaten him.  He banned me, yes.  But he is not the one who threatened me.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 01, 2007, 09:43:01 PM
I want to know who threatened him and his family!  It's a wonder no one takes JTF seriously.  It's one thing to disagree and defend me, It's another to get personall and threaten someone just for banning me for telling the truth.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 01, 2007, 09:45:03 PM
No wonder the other day he was giving me a dirty look.  He believes that I threatened him and his family.  WHO DID IT?!!  I want to know as soon as possible.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 01, 2007, 09:47:07 PM
What's the deal here?  Threaten people!!  I hate threats. 
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 01, 2007, 09:49:56 PM
Do better next time than threaten someone.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on October 01, 2007, 10:00:13 PM
Did he have proof someone threatened him or is he just saying they did?

If they did it wasnt me lol.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on October 01, 2007, 10:13:37 PM
Wasn't me.

Who said he is telling the truth?

But yea, don't make threats against him people.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Sarah on October 02, 2007, 04:24:43 PM
Joe are you sure this isn't making the situation worse? It won't affect your position in anything at all will it?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 02, 2007, 06:16:53 PM
I don't think it will affect anything.  I am not running for the board.  I believe that someone threatened him.  I know it's not me.  I'm trying to find out if someone from this forum did because I told security of my co-op about this.  So, I am covered.  So far, Martinez hasn't come to me to discuss this.  He didn't mention me by name, but he insuated that it's me.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 02, 2007, 07:14:04 PM
Well, Sarah, Yiseral, and Kelly I believe you guys when you say that you didn't threaten him or his family.  He didn't say if he had proof, he just said so.  I hope that no one here has threatened him or his family.  The man I have been accousing of saying to throw out all the jews, he's OK.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Dominater96 on October 02, 2007, 09:37:15 PM
I want to know who threatened him and his family!  It's a wonder no one takes JTF seriously.  It's one thing to disagree and defend me, It's another to get personall and threaten someone just for banning me for telling the truth.
Who doesnt take JT seriously.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on October 03, 2007, 01:27:51 AM
Well, Sarah, Yiseral, and Kelly I believe you guys when you say that you didn't threaten him or his family.  He didn't say if he had proof, he just said so.  I hope that no one here has threatened him or his family.  The man I have been accousing of saying to throw out all the jews, he's OK.

Tell him to go to the police. If he was threatened let him make a police report and maybe the police can track the guy down.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 07, 2007, 12:03:39 PM
Maybe if he starts up with me.  On this past Friday, I recieved in the mail the ballot for my co-op's 2007 board election.  Bill "The Nazi" Kregler is running again.  In his statment for the election, he wants, "have management monitor and address the behavior of existing cooperators."  Meaning my statements against him that I have posted on the Big Six Towers forum.  When I have the time, I might attached what he wrote on this topic.  Please keep supporting me and keep posting on Martinez' blog.  Thank you all for your support.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 07, 2007, 05:31:59 PM
Today I talked to Israel Martinez.  We setteled our differences and he understands my situation and knows most of the story of the man I have been writing about.  He believes, as do I that Bill Kregler has been threatening him and me on the Big Six Towers forum.  Israel has accoused him on Tuesday night in an open meeting between the board of directors and all the residents of the co-op.  Kregler went into a rage and they had a very heated argument.  I was not there, but Israel told me what happened.  Israel filed a police complaint against him and offered to give me what Kregler posted on the forum.  Israel told me that the person making the threats, wanted to put me in an oven and kill me like the Nazis did during the holocost. 
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 07, 2007, 05:35:34 PM
Please keep posting on the Big Six forum.  Tell Bill Kregler what you think.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on October 07, 2007, 05:40:01 PM
Wow do you guys not have some sort of bylaw or rule about one resident making threats against another, that should be grounds for removal, especially serious threats like hes making AND he has even been kind enough to record his thoughts in writing as proof.

Are you sure its safe to stay there, is this guy some loud mouth who would run crying like a little girl if faced with real conflict or is he some unstable nutter who just may act out physically?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 07, 2007, 05:40:24 PM
Go JTF!!
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 07, 2007, 05:42:21 PM
He's no question a nut.  He does not want the truth about him from getting out.  I know from experience.  GO BOSTON RED SOX!!!
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on October 07, 2007, 06:18:17 PM
He is also dangerous. He carries a gun and with his temper I can see him using it.

Good thing is cops won't like him cause he works for the FD.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 07, 2007, 06:22:56 PM
He hasn't used it yet because I'm still here!!
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 07, 2007, 06:27:28 PM
I hope that this post gets alot of views.  It's a very personal topic for me.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on October 07, 2007, 06:29:41 PM
Quote
He hasn't used it yet because I'm still here!!

Are you sure youre safe there?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 07, 2007, 06:34:13 PM
Thank you for your concearn Kelly.  I am very safe here.  Security and the police know of the threats already.  Hopefully, nothing will happen.  I will let you know if anything does.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 07, 2007, 07:23:51 PM
Go JTF
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 07, 2007, 09:00:24 PM
Please keep posting out there.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 07, 2007, 09:03:04 PM
Bill Kregler should be banned from this planet.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 07, 2007, 09:06:59 PM
Keep posting!!
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on October 07, 2007, 09:07:54 PM
It sounds like bill should be in a little padded cell wearing a jacket that fastens in the back ;)
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 07, 2007, 09:09:16 PM
No question about it Kelly!  Is that really a picture of you when you make a post?  You're a hottie!!
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 07, 2007, 09:15:38 PM
I hope that Kregler loses big time.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 08, 2007, 10:55:38 AM
The reason Mr. Martinez is not taking a side in my case because I don't have any written, video or audio proof proving my claims.  Only my word.  What I have written is the truth of my side of the story.  It's up to you to believe my side of the story or not.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 08, 2007, 12:49:32 PM
Please help guys!!
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Sarah on October 08, 2007, 03:17:29 PM
Only your word?!?! Dozens of people here can vouch for you Joe!

Mr. Martinez I can assure you that Joe has not threatened you at all, and the fact that you have received Nazi like threats makes this certain, he is a Jewish man and would never stoop so low.

Infact Joe has actually created topics of discussion on the shareholders forum, one of the very few members that is interactive. Apart from that the forum seemed pretty dull.

Mr. Martinez, can't you settle an agreement?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 08, 2007, 06:05:11 PM
Sarah, I have settled the matter with Mr. Martinez.  In fact, I asked him to post something on this forum to get his side of the story out to a larger membership.  Tonight in my building, the building reps will have a metting.  I am planning to attend it.  I will update you if this topic comes up.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on October 08, 2007, 06:07:04 PM
Why is bill still living there, can they not revoke his membership in the co-operative because of threats?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 08, 2007, 06:10:42 PM
Kelly they are afraid of a lawsuit.  In 1999, the board election that year was delayed about 6 weeks because we didn't have enough ballots cast in the election.  When we did, Bill lost the election for the 4th straight year.  In his "mind", if the election was held on the orginail date, he would have won a spot on the board,  He hired a lawyer and was going to sue on that basis, but, the management and board talked him out of it.  The reason was that the board and management was going to evict him from the co-op.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on October 08, 2007, 06:15:40 PM
I dont know alot about the politics of co-operatives, but I sure hope that it all straightens out for you, it doesnt sound like you are able to even enjoy your own home with all this going on.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Sarah on October 08, 2007, 06:21:10 PM
Are all the residents part of this co-op?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 08, 2007, 06:23:30 PM
In my co-op, there are about 982 units in 7 buildings.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 08, 2007, 09:10:52 PM
I went to my building meeting tonight.  Nothing new happened.  I just didn't get a chance to tell my story, but, I told one of my neighbors about it and she couldn't believe this person was on the board.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 09, 2007, 06:21:24 PM
I hope that Kregler does not get reelected!!
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 09, 2007, 06:50:52 PM
If Bill gets elected, I don't know what he'll do to me and the rest of the jewish community living here.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 09, 2007, 07:26:44 PM
Bill Kregler should be banned!!
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 09, 2007, 08:31:10 PM
Maybe I should.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 09, 2007, 09:53:07 PM
Go JTF
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 10, 2007, 12:43:05 PM
What do you guys think of my situation?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 10, 2007, 05:28:02 PM
Tonight and tomorrow night my co-op has these "Meet the Canidates" nights.  I could go down and blast Bill Kregler if I want to.  Most people here already knows what he is. 
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 10, 2007, 05:34:27 PM
I am not planning to go, but if I hear something new, I will post it.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Sarah on October 10, 2007, 05:41:27 PM
If you do decide to go, plan some tough questions for Bill Kreglar and fire away!
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 10, 2007, 07:40:01 PM
I'm not going.  It looks like they are going to have a small turnout.  Nobody cares about the election anymore.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on October 10, 2007, 08:09:48 PM
Does that mean he has a chance of getting in????
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 10, 2007, 09:53:12 PM
It depends on how many people send in their ballots.  Alot of them just throw them away.  If most of the people who vote, vote against him, he won't be elected.   I'll see how it goes.  The people here are funny.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 10, 2007, 09:56:55 PM
With the people who live here, there's no way that I want to repensent people like that.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 11, 2007, 11:31:57 AM
I don't know anything yet about the "Meet the Canidates" last night.  I will let you know.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 11, 2007, 06:19:10 PM
I just filled out my ballot for this year's board election.  We usually vote for 3 people, but 5 spots are open and 6 people are running.  Guess who I didn't vote for?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on October 11, 2007, 06:23:24 PM
Lol.....ummmmm its so difficult to guess :laugh:
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 11, 2007, 06:46:19 PM
Isn't it?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on October 11, 2007, 06:47:53 PM
Its a real mystery Joe :P....lets hope that everyone else DIDNT vote for that sleazgbag either ;)
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 14, 2007, 06:35:15 PM
Now Kregler has put up Holloween decorations in front of his building and is running a Holloween party on Oct. 26th.  I hope that no one shows up for it.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 14, 2007, 07:02:14 PM
Please post on the Big Six Towers blog in my defense.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 15, 2007, 03:52:51 PM
How come I don't get the support that I should?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 15, 2007, 06:17:12 PM
I really like to know.  Not even Chaim wants to act because of the "Liberal" cops in NYC.  Where's the love?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 15, 2007, 07:02:24 PM
I thought that I might get some support from JTF.  I guess Chaim just talks big.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 15, 2007, 09:18:14 PM
Come on!!  Give me a break.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on October 15, 2007, 09:42:19 PM
I don't know exactly what you want JTF to do here.

E-mail me the facts I guess I can make a flier for you and you can xerox it and post it up in the buildings.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 17, 2007, 12:53:32 PM
Once I did post something in all the buildings.  Kregler made a police complaint and 2 cops came to my door.  If it happens again, I might get arrested for it.  Sometimes, it not worth it.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 17, 2007, 12:55:47 PM
Do you really think you'll ever have your back ,backed up?Welcome to our world.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 17, 2007, 05:35:45 PM
No, but a little respect should be nice.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 17, 2007, 10:36:40 PM
I'm tired of the insults.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 17, 2007, 11:03:13 PM
There are no Israeli arabs.You are most right.I ve been wanting to tell you that!
wayne jude
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Zvulun Ben Moshe on October 17, 2007, 11:20:19 PM
How come I don't get the support that I should?

I don't want to be rude, Joe, but how do you support JTF and why JTF "should" support you?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 18, 2007, 10:51:35 AM
I support this forum.  I watch "The Best of JTF" on QPTV.  I listen to Chaim's Ask JTF shows.  The only thing I haven't done is donate money to the cause.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 18, 2007, 10:54:21 AM
I have posted the address on this post.  All I want is to have support of my fellow JTFers on that blog.  Chaim suggested not to mention JTF when posting on that site.  If you can't find the address that I have posted, let me know. OK?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Trumpeldor on October 18, 2007, 02:18:02 PM
Joe. Here's what I suggest:

Rather than have someone read through 13 pages of posts, why don't you neatly and thoughtfully summarize what you would like in one post. Then, politely ask a moderator to sticky it either in this section or another one. That way, people cannot say they are baffled by your situation. Just a thought.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 18, 2007, 06:07:11 PM
No.  It's someone who didn't like what I wrote. 
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 18, 2007, 06:58:55 PM
I didn't do that at all.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Zvulun Ben Moshe on October 18, 2007, 08:11:02 PM
I support this forum.  I watch "The Best of JTF" on QPTV.  I listen to Chaim's Ask JTF shows.  The only thing I haven't done is donate money to the cause.

 8;) Well, I hope you got my point...
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 21, 2007, 09:24:17 PM
This coming Thursday(10/25)  the election will be held.  I hope Kregler gets thrown off the board.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 22, 2007, 06:04:49 PM
Did anyone signed up recently to that forum yet?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 22, 2007, 07:32:23 PM
I guess no one cares about this topic anymore. 
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on October 25, 2007, 06:01:41 AM
I haven't posted on the forum a bit before you made people register for it. I don't recall exactly what it said, I remember a user by the name of Hitler Rules and I think someone said something about burning Jews in the oven.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: mord on October 25, 2007, 07:41:15 AM
This coming Thursday(10/25)  the election will be held.  I hope Kregler gets thrown off the board.
whats this kregler's first name?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on October 25, 2007, 07:47:13 AM
Bill. Fire Marshal.

Know him?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: mord on October 25, 2007, 07:49:45 AM
Bill. Fire Marshal.

Know him?
Nope but he appears to be a nazi  lover give me a little while i'll find out
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: mord on October 25, 2007, 07:54:22 AM
Did he at one time work out of Engine Company 257 in canarsie i think he's alot older then me :::D :::D O0
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on October 25, 2007, 07:55:28 AM
He might have. I don't know. I have a friend in the 69 I can try to find out.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: mord on October 25, 2007, 07:57:49 AM
He might have. I don't know. I have a friend in the 69 I can try to find out.
I THINK YOUR FRIEND WOULD HAVE TO BE AN OLDER MAN MAYBE AT LEAST IN HIS MID 50'S
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on October 25, 2007, 08:02:43 AM
Ok, here is what I got, A Bill Kregler, now retired, worked with E-229, E-257, HM-1, BFI. His e-mail is [email protected]

Now I'm not sure if it's the same Kregler. It might be.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: mord on October 25, 2007, 08:22:05 AM
Ok, here is what I got, A Bill Kregler, now retired, worked with E-229, E-257, HM-1, BFI. His e-mail is [email protected]

Now I'm not sure if it's the same Kregler. It might be.
YES IT'S HIM
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 25, 2007, 11:21:26 AM
Thanks for the info guys.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 25, 2007, 12:46:44 PM
I can't believe that there have been almost 1000 views on this post.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on October 25, 2007, 12:58:35 PM
I can't believe that there have been almost 1000 views on this post.

See Joe we DO care about you :)
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 25, 2007, 05:25:58 PM
Thanks, Kelly.  I knew I could count on you!!
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 28, 2007, 11:05:12 AM
Well folks, Bill "The Nazi" Kregler got himself re-elected to the board of directors of my co-op.  The only satifaction is that he got the second lowest amount of votes in the election.  He will only serve another 2 years instead of 3 because of his low vote total.  I might be evicted from my co-op because I'm a Jew.  The only thing that can save me is that I pay my rent and don't cause any trouble in the complex.  Thank you Chaim for the non-help you gave me.  If I had Chaim's help in maybe making a protest here, he would have lost.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on October 28, 2007, 01:26:53 PM
Well folks, Bill "The Nazi" Kregler got himself re-elected to the board of directors of my co-op.  The only satifaction is that he got the second lowest amount of votes in the election.  He will only serve another 2 years instead of 3 because of his low vote total.  I might be evicted from my co-op because I'm a Jew.  The only thing that can save me is that I pay my rent and don't cause any trouble in the complex.  Thank you Chaim for the non-help you gave me.  If I had Chaim's help in maybe making a protest here, he would have lost.

Who owns your building?
Arent there very specific rules for eviction? Sorry for my ignorance but Ive never lived in an apartment so Im not sure.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 28, 2007, 07:25:08 PM
We do have a mangement company runing the day to day activites but, we own the co-op.  The board and mangement really cares about if we pay the rent every month.  There are ways to get around it.  Kregler is voting about every year to raise our rent, parking fees and air conditioner/heat fees.  The move-in charges are so high, that alot of people won't pay that much.  So, he's using the old sterotype of "Jews being cheap with money". So, no more Jews are moving in here.  Also, elederly people who are on a fixed income with social security, cannot pay the rent anymore.  So, they move out.  So, in a way, Kregler is getting his way with no Jews are elderly people living here.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 28, 2007, 07:28:53 PM
Great question, Kelly.  You come up with very challenging questions.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on October 28, 2007, 08:07:53 PM
 ;)Someone needs to teach that moron a lesson

Im sure that you could sue for wrongful eviction if he tries anything.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 29, 2007, 11:09:03 AM
Well, Bill hasn't even rubbed it in to me that he has been elected to the board in the first place.  I hope he doesn't do anything.  Only about 521 of the 982 ballots have been sent in for this year's election.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 29, 2007, 12:55:18 PM
Bill Kregler is the biggest anti-semite since Hitler.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on October 29, 2007, 01:06:07 PM
He sure sounds like it, does he make things very unpleasant for you?  How often do you have to see him or have anything to do with him?

Im glad I have good neighbors....if he lived next door to me I would be inclined to put some fertilizer in his shed and call the FBI leaving a tip that he was talking about blowing something up :P
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 29, 2007, 01:34:45 PM
Kelly what a devious mind you have.LOL O0
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 29, 2007, 05:11:33 PM
I don't see him everyday.  I saw him today actually.  He gave me a dirty look through.  I would love to report him to homeland security.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on October 29, 2007, 05:36:47 PM
Kelly what a devious mind you have.LOL O0

Lol thanks;)

Im really sorry Joe, I hope you dont have to see him too often.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 29, 2007, 06:19:32 PM
Last month, I saw him sunbathing near one of the playgrounds in the complex.  I reported him to security.  He was doing it while all the kids were coming home from school.  He also has a pet lizard which he lets run around the co-op and lets the kids pat it.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Hail Columbia on October 29, 2007, 06:26:22 PM
Bill Kregler is the biggest anti-semite since Hitler.

Actually, that distinction would go to Franjo Tudjman.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on October 29, 2007, 06:55:14 PM
Last month, I saw him sunbathing near one of the playgrounds in the complex.  I reported him to security.  He was doing it while all the kids were coming home from school.  He also has a pet lizard which he lets run around the co-op and lets the kids pat it.

 :-\sunbathing in what.....and on a childrens payground, hes really sick.

A pet lizard...how fitting for him.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 29, 2007, 07:15:02 PM
Sunbathing is shorts only.  Actually I would rather watch you sunbathe, Kelly.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on October 29, 2007, 07:17:27 PM
Sunbathing is shorts only.  Actually I would rather watch you sunbathe, Kelly.

Lol carefull you'll get in trouble ;)

A grown man or woman sunbathing on a childrens playground is really sick, he needs to be locked away in some asylum.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 30, 2007, 06:24:26 PM
Not if it's you!!!  LOL
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 30, 2007, 07:12:33 PM
I hope Bill Kregler dies suddenly.  I know it's wrong to think this way, but, if you know this Nazi, you will think that way too.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on October 30, 2007, 07:14:18 PM
I dont disagree Joe, Im all for death for people like him...painful and humiliating preferably...and I use the term "people" loosely of course ;)
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 30, 2007, 07:18:30 PM
Of course!!
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 30, 2007, 08:25:14 PM
How 'bout a protest of this joint for electing this jerk.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 30, 2007, 09:42:39 PM
How about it guys?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on October 30, 2007, 09:44:05 PM
At your building?

Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 30, 2007, 09:45:08 PM
Yes.  I think it will be great and show up Kregler's spite.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 30, 2007, 09:46:20 PM
I can't believe that I posted over 900 times already.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Zvulun Ben Moshe on October 30, 2007, 10:54:01 PM
Joe,

As I understand your building is a luxury co-op?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 31, 2007, 05:02:43 PM
No it's not.  I just got a visit from Bill "the Nazi" Kregler today for holloween.  He was with his son and a group of other kids.  If he was by himself, I would have shut my door in his face.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 31, 2007, 05:49:57 PM
My co-op is a Mitchell-Lama project.  It means it's for Middle-class income people. 
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Trumpeldor on October 31, 2007, 05:58:59 PM
My co-op is a Mitchell-Lama project.  It means it's for Middle-class income people. 

What do you do for a living, Joe?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 31, 2007, 07:39:23 PM
I'm a photographer.  Well, in my co-op, we just had an election last week to elect new members for the board of directiors.  It consists of 9 people.  One of them, is named Bill Kregler, a former fire marshall, who wanted to throw out all Jewish and elderly residents of this co-op.  He just got re-elected.  I wanted Chaim's help with either a petetion campaign or a protest to keep him off the ballot and the board so, that the Jewish community of Big Six Towers of Woodside, Queens will be safe from this monster.  Chaim didn't want to help because of the liberal police in New York City will arrest us for protesting here.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 31, 2007, 07:43:10 PM
I hope that explains it.  I can't tell the whole story, but I have written the gist of it.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on October 31, 2007, 07:44:41 PM
What do you think?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on October 31, 2007, 08:40:56 PM
No it's not.  I just got a visit from Bill "the Nazi" Kregler today for holloween.  He was with his son and a group of other kids.  If he was by himself, I would have shut my door in his face.

Oh how terrible...he reproduced >:(.....AND found a woman stupid enough to be with him :-\
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on November 01, 2007, 06:58:13 PM
No joke, Kelly.  Did you see the negative comments on the Ask JTF is ready topic?  It's so negative towards me, it's unreal.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on November 01, 2007, 07:13:03 PM
No sorry Joe I havent looked after I posted my question I havent looked again.
I'll have a look through, there are people here who dont care much for me either, but thats how it goes, not everyone can like you....I think you seem like a pretty nice guy though O0
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on November 01, 2007, 07:14:17 PM
Thanks, Kelly!  I like you too.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on November 04, 2007, 06:38:27 PM
Let's start a petition campign to get Kregler off  the board.  Who's with me?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on November 04, 2007, 07:06:23 PM
Would they care about a poll of people who didnt live there?  Would it work?
Can you get people who live there to sign it also?  Do you like having all these questions fired at you one after the other :laugh:...if I can help I sure will ;)
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on November 05, 2007, 09:46:06 PM
I don't know if I can get people to sign.  Alot of them just don't want to get involved.  That's why the same people run for the board every year.  No one else cares.  Today in my co-op, there was a hearing with the HPD to discuss the new rent increase.  Most of the people who talked at the hearing, were more worried about no heat during 50 and 60 degree weather than having to pay more to live here.  Thanks again for your support of me Kelly.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on November 05, 2007, 09:49:03 PM
I forgot, Kregler spoke at the hearing.  He got mostly boos.  He said, "where's the love".  It was the funniest moment during the whole hearing.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on November 06, 2007, 01:13:02 PM
Lol what an idiot he is....Im glad no one likes him.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on November 06, 2007, 07:29:01 PM
Well, people didn't hate him enough because he got re-elected.  How are you doing, Kelly?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on November 06, 2007, 11:20:50 PM
Im good thanks, it seems he gets elected because not enough people care to vote or run
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on November 07, 2007, 12:30:20 PM
That's exactly the issue, Kelly.  No matter how good your intentions are, you get the business all the way around.  It's a thankless job, and if you are a board member, you don't get to live here for free or get any other perks. 
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on November 08, 2007, 11:22:12 AM
More people here are more concearned about getting no heat than the rent increase.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on November 08, 2007, 06:22:31 PM
Let's protest his election to the board.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on November 08, 2007, 06:53:21 PM
What do you think, guys!!  I know that I'm not as liked as  I should be, but I shouldn't be ignored for it.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on November 11, 2007, 12:07:13 PM
I Just hope that the nazi won't evict myself or my fellow Jewish residents.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on November 11, 2007, 12:51:38 PM
I Just hope that the nazi won't evict myself or my fellow Jewish residents.

There has to be laws against that kind of thing :-\
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on November 11, 2007, 06:14:03 PM
There is.  But there is also a thing called "creative eviction".  That is when a landlord makes it so uncoftable for a tennant that they move out without evicition procedings starting.  That's what he's doing.  The rent here is so high and the move-in charges, that the elderly are moving out and he's using the old sterotype that Jews are cheap and won't pay it so they don't move in here or those who are living here are moving out.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Sarah on November 11, 2007, 06:22:49 PM
I think you're living somewhere nightmarish if this is giving you a lot of grief. Why did you move there in the first place?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on November 11, 2007, 07:10:24 PM
Hi Sarah!  I refuse to move.  I will not let Kregler the Nazi force me to move.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on November 12, 2007, 06:10:30 PM
I do hope that if something happens that I have Chaim's support and help in a petition campign against Kregler the Nazi.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on November 13, 2007, 06:15:51 PM
I can't believe that I have 1400 views on this topic.  It's the most of any topic I started.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on November 13, 2007, 06:37:59 PM
Hi Sarah!  I refuse to move.  I will not let Kregler the Nazi force me to move.

Im glad you refuse to move, thats exactly what he wants
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on November 15, 2007, 07:24:16 PM
I know that is what he wants.  That's why I'm not going to do it.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Zvulun Ben Moshe on November 17, 2007, 09:06:07 PM
Joe, why won't you make a video on youtube?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on November 18, 2007, 07:20:13 PM
I don't have a video camera and I don't know how to put one on.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Trumpeldor on November 18, 2007, 07:37:40 PM
I don't have a video camera and I don't know how to put one on.

You can do an audio. Anyone can do that.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Sarah on November 19, 2007, 03:12:46 PM
Or you could do it with text and slides if you don't have a microphone.....theres no escaping. :)
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on November 19, 2007, 03:39:49 PM
I don't have a video camera and I don't know how to put one on.

You can do an audio. Anyone can do that.

He may not have a microphone.

Or you could do it with text and slides if you don't have a microphone.....theres no escaping. :)

He said he doesn't know how to upload to youtube. He may not know how to do text and slides.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on November 19, 2007, 03:40:29 PM
And he may have a dial-up internet connection which is very very slow and has no way to upload anything to youtube or any other site.

Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Sarah on November 19, 2007, 04:49:03 PM
And he may have a dial-up internet connection which is very very slow and has no way to upload anything to youtube or any other site.



Theres hardly any difference in price between broadband and dial-up these days, its not worth the pain of having to wait.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on November 19, 2007, 04:52:21 PM
And he may have a dial-up internet connection which is very very slow and has no way to upload anything to youtube or any other site.



Theres hardly any difference in price between broadband and dial-up these days, its not worth the pain of having to wait.

Before we got DSL we had free dial-up. When our modem dies, it happens, we use free dial up.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Sarah on November 19, 2007, 04:54:22 PM
And he may have a dial-up internet connection which is very very slow and has no way to upload anything to youtube or any other site.



Theres hardly any difference in price between broadband and dial-up these days, its not worth the pain of having to wait.

Before we got DSL we had free dial-up. When our modem dies, it happens, we use free dial up.

Do you have Tiscali in America?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on November 22, 2007, 07:18:01 PM
Can we please keep to this topic?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on November 22, 2007, 07:20:30 PM
And he may have a dial-up internet connection which is very very slow and has no way to upload anything to youtube or any other site.



Theres hardly any difference in price between broadband and dial-up these days, its not worth the pain of having to wait.

Before we got DSL we had free dial-up. When our modem dies, it happens, we use free dial up.

Do you have Tiscali in America?

No, metconnect.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on November 25, 2007, 08:37:49 PM
This is the last time I will ask:

PLEASE KEEP ON TOPIC!!  DON'T DISCUSS ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS TOPIC!!
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Dominater96 on November 25, 2007, 08:48:24 PM
Or what? You dont run this forum......
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on November 25, 2007, 09:00:17 PM
This is the last time I will ask:

PLEASE KEEP ON TOPIC!!  DON'T DISCUSS ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS TOPIC!!

Take it easy.

The topic is old. If we change it slightly it won't kill anyone.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on December 28, 2007, 03:51:09 PM
It bothers me greatly.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Yisrael on December 29, 2007, 08:22:10 PM
It bothers me greatly.

I'm sorry then.

How are things going in your building?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on December 30, 2007, 05:44:39 PM
Well, thanks to the Nazi that I have been writing about, I just got another increase in my rent.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on December 30, 2007, 05:52:46 PM
Well, thanks to the Nazi that I have been writing about, I just got another increase in my rent.

Oh sorry to hear that, was it just you or everyone that got increased?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on December 30, 2007, 05:53:55 PM
Everyone in the complex, Kelly.  Even the people who rented the retail spaces in the co-op's shopping center.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on December 30, 2007, 06:00:03 PM
Thats terrible, hopefully it wasnt a huge increase.  Do they have to give you notice or does the increase take effect right away?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on December 30, 2007, 08:01:50 PM
They have to give us notice.  It's the law. By the 15th of the month before it kicks in.  We were notfied on Dec. 15.  So, Happy New Year from Big Six Towers!!  That's when it kicks in.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on December 30, 2007, 08:25:46 PM
Thats not much notice....a month?
Did they give a reason...or do you think they are trying to get certian people to leave by increasing the rent?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: cjd on December 30, 2007, 08:46:48 PM
Sadly things get more expensive to run each day. The up keep on complexes like that must be astronomical. Heating bills alone would bankrupt many poorly structured developments. I hate to say it no matter where you live a private house or apartment its the rare exception when you find a place where the rent or upkeep stays the same year after year. When I bought my home 15 years ago the taxes were $3000 dollars today they are over $9000 who do I complain to. Add to this oil bills that use to be 59 cents a gallon and now are $2.95 a gallon. Last week I had 250 gallons delivered a third of a tank and it was well over 700 bucks. Forget about electric bills and just the up keep of the place in general. The sad fact is prices go up and we just have to pay or move to cheaper digs.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on December 31, 2007, 11:21:49 AM
Because the rent is so high now, the elderly people are slowly moving out and Kregler is using the old sterotype that "Jews are cheap with money" and refusing to pay this much for rent and moving-in fees.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on December 31, 2007, 12:54:58 PM
Next year we will have another increase.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on December 31, 2007, 07:09:01 PM
I do hope that in the new year that Kregler's dies.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on December 31, 2007, 10:08:48 PM
Unfortunately evil always seems to live a long time :-\
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Sarah on January 01, 2008, 03:24:27 PM
Because the rent is so high now, the elderly people are slowly moving out and Kregler is using the old sterotype that "Jews are cheap with money" and refusing to pay this much for rent and moving-in fees.
They are moving out but are people moving in, equally as fast?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on January 01, 2008, 09:37:50 PM
They are not moving in so fast because of the prices that my co-op charges new people who want to move in here.  Also, there are 2 spaces in the shopping center that have been empty for some time, one for a year and a half, the other for about 9 months.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: JTFFan on January 02, 2008, 12:27:43 AM
Unfortunately evil always seems to live a long time :-\

Yes, unfortunately :'( >:(
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Sarah on January 02, 2008, 01:52:44 PM
They are not moving in so fast because of the prices that my co-op charges new people who want to move in here.  Also, there are 2 spaces in the shopping center that have been empty for some time, one for a year and a half, the other for about 9 months.

Whats the point then?! It'd be better to have them occupied even for less. Don't the people realise that this is because of that man? Why don't they pressurize him or something?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on January 03, 2008, 06:17:21 PM
They're scared of him.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on January 03, 2008, 08:34:36 PM
At least my co-op is giving me plenty of heat on this cold night.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on January 07, 2008, 06:13:53 PM
Thank God for that.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: JTFFan on January 07, 2008, 07:54:01 PM
yes ;)
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on January 10, 2008, 06:46:31 PM
At least I haven't seen this nazi so far this short new year.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on January 10, 2008, 06:50:17 PM
I can't believe there are almost 300 replys on this post.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on January 11, 2008, 10:42:05 AM
I would like to go, but I can't afford the move.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on January 15, 2008, 06:22:16 PM
I can't believe I have to put up with this nazi till 2009.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: kellymaureen on January 15, 2008, 07:02:04 PM
I can't believe I have to put up with this nazi till 2009.

Can he run again?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on January 15, 2008, 08:07:49 PM
Yes, in 2009.  The only term limits is if you are elected to 2 straight 3 year terms.  He has been elected to 2 straight 2 year terms.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on January 25, 2008, 12:53:41 PM
I can't believe I have to put up with that dope till 2009.
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on January 28, 2008, 12:53:19 PM
What do you think?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Nic Brookes on January 28, 2008, 02:28:15 PM
Why do you think we care so much?
Title: Re: What happened to me
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on January 28, 2008, 03:45:21 PM
I like to think that I could get advice from my fellow JTFers about my problem.