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Title: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: Ari on September 24, 2007, 10:46:30 PM
I was wondering what fellow forum members thought are life's most evil sins, and whether or not G-d can forgive them?  Maybe I'm still in a Yom Kippur state of mind.
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: newman on September 24, 2007, 10:50:27 PM
Cursing Israel. A gentile who does that has NO hope.
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: Dr. Dan on September 24, 2007, 11:28:14 PM
Murder, brutal rape, immoral sexuality such as incest and child molestation and beastiality and perhaps homosexuality of which none exist in Iran (simply because all of them are executed).
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: Eliezer Ben Avraham on September 24, 2007, 11:30:42 PM
The most important teaching of Judaism is to love your fellow Jew, Ahavat Yisrael or Ahavat Chinam, therefore I would say that the worst sin would be Sinat Chinam, or baseless hatred of Jew for Jew.
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: Mishmaat on September 24, 2007, 11:41:34 PM
Baseless hatred and anything that God considers an abomination.
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: guyNbluejeans on September 25, 2007, 12:13:12 AM
Interesting question.

When I was very young I committed a great sin. (Rather not say what it was.)

Somewhere in the Bible it says that God forgives people to the degree that a person forgives others.

I still have some work to do. :'(
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on September 25, 2007, 04:31:40 AM
Cursing Israel. A gentile who does that has NO hope.

Very well said, Newman. Whoever curses Yisrael is cursed. I even know people who don't go so far as to curse, but have prejudices against the Jews.... and they have a miserable life.
Other very serious sins are murder and abortion ( except when made to save a life). Supporting Palis is a form of murder, too
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: Ultra Requete on September 25, 2007, 04:48:33 AM
Sins against Holy Spirit of G-d as atheism; murder, sodomy; antisemitism which is all above and it's prohibited for all Jews included Newman; hear the Chaim in latest tape; he said that he hate all those self hating kikes who want to divide and pressure suicide hudna on Israel;  more than nazis! and he's right one traitor is worse than 100 enemies. 
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: Boeregeneraal on September 25, 2007, 06:11:56 AM
Using G-D's name in an unapropriate manner!
Fowling G-D's name and authority!
Blasphemy


Im not exactly sure, but im sure somewhere in the Torah/Bible, it is written that abusing G-D's name, is unforgivable?

Lubab, maybe you can help?
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: RationalThought110 on September 25, 2007, 08:54:00 AM
Using G-D's name in an unapropriate manner!
Fowling G-D's name and authority!
Blasphemy


Im not exactly sure, but im sure somewhere in the Torah/Bible, it is written that abusing G-D's name, is unforgivable?

Lubab, maybe you can help?


What is meant by using the name in an inappropriate manner?
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: Boeregeneraal on September 25, 2007, 09:46:22 AM
cursing G-D, using G-D's name to swear/curse

e.g "oh my ..."
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: Dexter on September 25, 2007, 09:49:33 AM
cursing G-D, using G-D's name to swear/curse

e.g "oh my ..."
Since when "God" is the name of god ?
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: Boeregeneraal on September 25, 2007, 10:18:35 AM
no Dex, you miss my point

i assume that you have heard people say "oh my ..." ? Well, that's a sin.

In christianity, well, in South Africa, when a person would say "Jesus" in vain, people would find that offensive,because you misuse Jesus' name.

that's the right word, using G-D's name in vain
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: Dexter on September 25, 2007, 10:28:37 AM
no Dex, you miss my point

i assume that you have heard people say "oh my ..." ? Well, that's a sin.

In christianity, well, in South Africa, when a person would say "Jesus" in vain, people would find that offensive,because you misuse Jesus' name.

that's the right word, using G-D's name in vain
Never knew it, thank you for telling me .

BTW, I'm going to open thread in SA forum .
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: Kananga on September 25, 2007, 12:32:45 PM
Dexter, saying OMG is NOT a sin.  By taking G-d's name in vain has to do with taking on oaths without the intention of fulfilling them, or pretending to perform actions as a Kiddush Hashem for self-serving reasons.
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: OdKahaneChai on September 25, 2007, 03:56:34 PM
I would say sexual immorality in general is bad such as having sex outside of marriage.
Worse.
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: decimos on September 25, 2007, 04:11:00 PM
mmm i think breaking any misvot is bad bad i spose the would be varying degrees of badness..
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: Masha on September 25, 2007, 05:14:50 PM
Cursing Israel. A gentile who does that has NO hope.

It's interesting that you say that. I also feel that it's the most heinous sin. Even more so on the part of the Jew than gentile.
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: Boeregeneraal on September 25, 2007, 09:32:36 PM
Murder, brutal rape, immoral sexuality such as incest and child molestation and beastiality and perhaps homosexuality of which none exist in Iran (simply because all of them are executed).


But Islam condones homosexuality and shahidim are given 72 female virgins and 28 male virgins.



what the hell! So these mosquitos get male virgins as well?  :-\ . Crazy people
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on September 25, 2007, 10:11:00 PM
Most evil sins-
 Lashon Hara- evil gossip against a Jew.
Also according to the Zohar- a Jewish man having relations with a getile women. by Talmud it seems its a Jewish man having relations with a Nidda (during her cycle) Jewish lady.
  -very hard to rectify. But still possible, threw many tikkunim- you would have to notify and speak to a real good Rabbi who knows his stuff (not someone who lenient) and he will assist you if you have commited these things. My (really the Torah's) advice- stay away from these things.
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: Daniel on September 25, 2007, 10:23:28 PM
Cursing Israel. A gentile who does that has NO hope.

As well as a Jew who does the same.
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: New Yorker on September 25, 2007, 10:29:51 PM


This topic begs the question, is there a Jewish hell?  :)
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on September 25, 2007, 11:05:50 PM


This topic begs the question, is there a Jewish hell?  :)

speaking of hell, one needs to merit even going to hell. - hell really is a clensing process of the soul. for example if your t shirt gets dirty you take it to the cleaners, the same way here. Its one thing to get your shirt dirty with some stains, but some people so to speak ripe their shirts and thats when cleaners wont help you havr to throw it away.
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: Dr. Dan on September 25, 2007, 11:16:10 PM
the worst sin is abortion, eating ham if you are Jewish, and ummm...speaking in a microphone on Shabbat.

oh and listening to women sing...that means hell for all...

 ;D
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on September 25, 2007, 11:28:07 PM
the worst sin is abortion, eating ham if you are Jewish, and ummm...speaking in a microphone on Shabbat.

oh and listening to women sing...that means hell for all...

 ;D

are sins a joke for you?
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on September 25, 2007, 11:38:05 PM
Tzvi Ben Roshel:  "...one needs to merit even going to hell."

America used to be a meritocracy...one's socio-economic standing was earned according to one's merit.

Now, America's no longer a meritocracy, but instead has degenerated into affirmative action:

The color of one's skin, one's sex (especially if perverted and sick), and one's inability to earn a livelihood are the new standards which guarantee one's social status and nice paycheck.

It only stands to reason, that rather than we Jews having to merit entrance into Hell, JTF must immediately demand Affirmative Action Hell!--

Henceforth, Jews, no matter how deserving of Hell, are to be passed over, ostracized, and held in contempt.

Hell shall become the punishment and just rewards for each and every he-Mexican, she-Mexican, it-she, he-she, he-boojie, she-boojie, transgendered transexual ChigaMexiPuertoNegritolito, and all of their families, especially if they are illegal alien invaders!

And the best part of this, is that they will never again have to earn their admission to Hell...we Jews are going to pass up our turn in Hell to ensure that others can burn, whether or not they deserve it!
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: Dr. Dan on September 26, 2007, 06:46:16 AM
the worst sin is abortion, eating ham if you are Jewish, and ummm...speaking in a microphone on Shabbat.

oh and listening to women sing...that means hell for all...

 ;D

are sins a joke for you?

absolutely not!  Not goign to say who..but some answers that were given as the worst sins made me think..."THESE TO YOU ARE THE WORST SINS?!"  unless he/she is simply listing some bad sins...the thread asks what are the WORST sins...
Title: Re: Most Evil Sins!
Post by: New Yorker on September 26, 2007, 12:12:17 PM

I've given this some thought, the most evil sin is violence against the innocent/massmurder of the innocent, it is the highest form of destruction against G-d's creation.


The muslims are very fond of commiting this sin.