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Title: End times - my thoughts
Post by: Ulli on April 13, 2020, 12:59:07 PM
I think wars and atrocities, idiol worship, heresy and apostatism as well as hostility against God was always there.

1. WW, 2 WW, The seven years war, the thirty years war, Attila, Tschingis Khan, Napoleon, Inquisition in the counter reformation, The fall of the Roman Empire etc. Were much harder times than now.

Even catastrophies, like floods - I remember I have read about the "Grote Mandränke" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Marcellus%27s_flood (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Marcellus%27s_flood)

And Illnesses: The plague (Black Death), Spanish Flue were devastating. What we have today Corona , even if it is dangerous and for lots of people deadly, is not comparable with this events.

Perhaps we only see it as big catastrophy, because informations are available for everybody worldwide through the internet, as well as the population is bigger and the infrastructure and real estate is much much more developed. So more things get affected and destroyed. But if you see it in relations i.e. the 30 year war killed 40 percent of the population and the plague killed between 10 and 40 percent of the population.

The Mandränke killed hundreds of thousands of people and big areas of land at the North sea from Netherlands to Denmark were lost inclusive whole cities like Rungholt. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rungholt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rungholt)

Even the apostasie in our societies is not new. You had it during the French Revolution and then in Nazi Germany and in the Sowjet Union.

So I think perhaps we have a few years left.
Title: Re: End times - my thoughts
Post by: Noachide on April 14, 2020, 01:43:46 AM
Rav Reuven says that Jews have to repent first.
Title: Re: End times - my thoughts
Post by: Zelhar on April 14, 2020, 04:33:46 AM
Plagues cannot be considered a sign for the end of times since they have been there since the beginning.
Title: Re: End times - my thoughts
Post by: Noachide on April 14, 2020, 05:21:41 AM
Plagues cannot be considered a sign for the end of times since they have been there since the beginning.
Maybe plagues cannot be considered a sign for the end of times, but the economic collapse of most countries and eventual wars that will lead to nuclear catastrophe can be considered to be beginning of the end.
Title: Re: End times - my thoughts
Post by: Ulli on April 14, 2020, 11:21:52 AM
Maybe plagues cannot be considered a sign for the end of times, but the economic collapse of most countries and eventual wars that will lead to nuclear catastrophe can be considered to be beginning of the end.

Nobody is in the moment in a mood for war, if you don't count the nutcases of Hisbollah, Hamas and Iran.

Trump was a gift of God.  Trump has handeled foreign relations well and kept peace.

I don't want to imagine in what situation the Demonrats under the leadership of Hillary and mainstream media would have brought us.

We would have already hot conflict with the Russian Army in Syria and Ukraine. IS would still be there and Saudi Arbia would be totally destabilized and under sanctions.

Iran would perhaps already have the bomb, Suleimani would be still in his place and the remaining Saudi Arabia gouvernment would be allied with Russia.

The relationship with China would be cold like ice. Because stupid Demonrats would have intervened heavily in Hong Kong and for the Uigurs and pushed regime change. They would spread the virus on purpose and give no information out.

The people don't know how much they owe Trump.
Title: Re: End times - my thoughts
Post by: Noachide on April 15, 2020, 01:25:12 AM
Nobody is in the moment in a mood for war, if you don't count the nutcases of Hisbollah, Hamas and Iran.

Trump was a gift of God.  Trump has handeled foreign relations well and kept peace.

I don't want to imagine in what situation the Demonrats under the leadership of Hillary and mainstream media would have brought us.

We would have already hot conflict with the Russian Army in Syria and Ukraine. IS would still be there and Saudi Arbia would be totally destabilized and under sanctions.

Iran would perhaps already have the bomb, Suleimani would be still in his place and the remaining Saudi Arabia gouvernment would be allied with Russia.

The relationship with China would be cold like ice. Because stupid Demonrats would have intervened heavily in Hong Kong and for the Uigurs and pushed regime change. They would spread the virus on purpose and give no information out.

The people don't know how much they owe Trump.
I agree that Trump is the best possible choice at the present moment. My worry is the lack of goods which could lead to conflicts between the nations.
Title: Re: End times - my thoughts
Post by: Israel Chai on April 15, 2020, 09:30:24 PM
The people don't know how much they owe Trump.

Eh he made some bad moves at first, but now again, just defunded the UN health agency. He is doing so infinitely better than I expected him to do.

Saying "what would the democrats have done" is a really horrid rabbit hole in every conceivable situation and circumstance, but I guess it does double his value that the alternative is that evil.
Title: Re: End times - my thoughts
Post by: Yehudayaakov on April 16, 2020, 10:42:45 AM
Rav Reuven says that Jews have to repent first.
You re right but don't expect jews well admting anythins wrong.
Title: Re: End times - my thoughts
Post by: Israel Chai on April 16, 2020, 12:19:25 PM
You re right but don't expect jews well admting anythins wrong.

Yeah those JEEEEEWS are so dirty huh?
Title: Re: End times - my thoughts
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on April 17, 2020, 05:49:10 PM
Plagues cannot be considered a sign for the end of times since they have been there since the beginning.

 Beautiful line