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Title: Gender is binary. Race is not.
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on August 25, 2024, 12:11:03 AM
There are two genders. Male and female.

Liberals think there are hundreds of genders.

There are four races. White, black, Oriental, and Australoid.

Liberals would rather just classify people as white or non-white. Their definition of non-white in addition to non-white also includes whites who are Non-European. They also accuse any person who is non-white or accused of being non-white as being "of color". They try to erase the racial identities of non-whites and lump them together. They would rather say what they aren't than what they are. They think race is binary.

Only blacks are "of color". By calling any non-white or someone they accuse of being non-white "of color", they are erasing the identity of actual blacks who are "of color". Colored and "of color" (the politically correct term for colored), Negro, and black are uniquely black. No non-black should ever be called or accused of being "of color".

Title: Re: Gender is binary. Race is not.
Post by: Hrvatski Noahid on August 26, 2024, 05:51:17 AM
Race is binary. Jew or Gentile.
Title: Re: Gender is binary. Race is not.
Post by: Rubystars on August 26, 2024, 02:42:37 PM
Race is binary. Jew or Gentile.

All humans are made in God's Image.
Title: Re: Gender is binary. Race is not.
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on August 26, 2024, 02:51:34 PM
Race is binary. Jew or Gentile.


That is not race.

Title: Re: Gender is binary. Race is not.
Post by: Hrvatski Noahid on August 26, 2024, 11:43:50 PM
All humans are made in God's Image.

At Mount Sinai, the approximately 3 million assembled Israelites entered into a Divine Covenant with God and became the Jewish People, and they received the Torah Law from God through Moses. From that point on, anyone born to a Jewish mother is a Jew, and is obligated in the Jewish commandments of the Torah. Likewise anyone born to a Gentile mother is a Gentile (one of the Children of Noah), and is obligated in the Noahide commandments of the Torah.

I don't know where Binyamin gets his racial classification, but it's not the Torah.
Title: Re: Gender is binary. Race is not.
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on August 27, 2024, 12:46:19 AM
At Mount Sinai, the approximately 3 million assembled Israelites entered into a Divine Covenant with God and became the Jewish People, and they received the Torah Law from God through Moses. From that point on, anyone born to a Jewish mother is a Jew, and is obligated in the Jewish commandments of the Torah. Likewise anyone born to a Gentile mother is a Gentile (one of the Children of Noah), and is obligated in the Noahide commandments of the Torah.

I don't know where Binyamin gets his racial classification, but it's not the Torah.


I don't know where you get your racial classifications. Being Jewish or Noahide is about religion, not race. Race is more related to Noah's three sons, but even that's not a clear division since Caucasians descend from all three sons but some of his sons also have non-white descendants.

For example, Ham is the father of the Kushim but he is also the father of white Hamites like the Ancient Egyptians and Canaanites. Japheth is the father of the Indo-European sub-race but some Orientals such as Koreans and Japanese may descend from hm as well. Shem is probably the father of some Orientals as well such as some Chinese people. But we know for sure that all Negros (Kushim) and Australoids are Hamites. Caucasians are Orientals can be from all three of Noah's sons.

There is nothing Halachic about race. All that matter is that there are 70 Noahide Nations and that the three continents of the Bible were roughly divided between the three sons of Noah. Hamites (white and black) were assigned Africa, Japhetites were assigned Europe, and Shem was assigned Asia. Hamites usurped parts of Southwest Asia. I don't know if the Indo part of Indo-Europeans can be considered Japheth usurping Asia. The division of Europe and Asia is man made so the Halachic definiton of Europe and Asia might be different than the traditional geographic division of Eurasia into Europe and Asia.

Title: Re: Gender is binary. Race is not.
Post by: Hrvatski Noahid on August 27, 2024, 12:53:59 AM
I don't know where you get your racial classifications. Being Jewish or Noahide is about religion, not race.

So atheist Jews are not Jewish? This is where your non-Torah racial obsession leads you.
Title: Re: Gender is binary. Race is not.
Post by: Mishmaat on August 27, 2024, 01:19:25 PM
So atheist Jews are not Jewish? This is where your non-Torah racial obsession leads you.

That's a good counter point. Jews are both a race and a religion.
Title: Re: Gender is binary. Race is not.
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on August 28, 2024, 12:19:41 AM
So atheist Jews are not Jewish? This is where your non-Torah racial obsession leads you.


They are Jews. Self-hating Jews are still Jews. In Islam, if someone doesn't want kill all Non-Muslims, he or she is not a Muslim. In Xtianity, someone who doesn't believe in Yeshu is not an Xtian. In Judaism, if you're mother is Jewish, you're Jewish.

Title: Re: Gender is binary. Race is not.
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on August 28, 2024, 12:22:46 AM
That's a good counter point. Jews are both a race and a religion.


Jews are a nation and ethnicity, not a race. Jews are a white ethnic group, not a separate race. Saying Jews are a race is like saying Italians are a race. Both are white ethnic groups. Both are Mediterranean Caucasians. The other Caucasians are Nordic and Alpine. The type of Mediterranean we are is Semitic. Jews also accept converts of any race or ethnicity. But I'm talking about the nation as a whole.

Title: Re: Gender is binary. Race is not.
Post by: Hrvatski Noahid on August 28, 2024, 12:51:16 AM


They are Jews. Self-hating Jews are still Jews. In Islam, if someone doesn't want kill all Non-Muslims, he or she is not a Muslim. In Xtianity, someone who doesn't believe in Yeshu is not an Xtian. In Judaism, if you're mother is Jewish, you're Jewish.

A race is "a group of persons related by common descent or heredity."

Obviously, Jews and Gentiles are different races.
Title: Re: Gender is binary. Race is not.
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on August 28, 2024, 11:02:51 AM
Race is based on Science. It has nothing do with Halacha.

You don't know the difference between race and sub-race. "Politically correct" morons doesn't know the difference between race and ethnicity. White is a race. Black is a race. Middle Eastern is not a race. It's a sub-race or ethnicity.

Race is human taxonomy.

Title: Re: Gender is binary. Race is not.
Post by: Hrvatski Noahid on August 28, 2024, 11:24:44 AM
Race is based on Science. It has nothing do with Halacha.

You don't know the difference between race and sub-race. "Politically correct" morons doesn't know the difference between race and ethnicity. White is a race. Black is a race. Middle Eastern is not a race. It's a sub-race or ethnicity.

Race is human taxonomy.

White, black and Middle Eastern are meaningless terms in Torah law.

On a Jewish forum, Torah law should be more important than science.
Title: Re: Gender is binary. Race is not.
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on August 28, 2024, 06:50:39 PM
White, black and Middle Eastern are meaningless terms in Torah law.

On a Jewish forum, Torah law should be more important than science.


You're the one that brought Torah Law into this. I simply attacked the liberals for acting like all non-whites and those they deem to be non-white are all the same.

Title: Re: Gender is binary. Race is not.
Post by: Nachus on August 28, 2024, 09:39:53 PM
 :usa+israel:                                                                                                                        :fist:

  This ‘issue’ will continue to “Engender”
  ‘controversy’ yet the obvious fact remains
  that a male is a male, a female is a female
  and it is as simple as that!
Title: Re: Gender is binary. Race is not.
Post by: Mishmaat on August 30, 2024, 12:59:08 AM


Jews are a nation and ethnicity, not a race. Jews are a white ethnic group, not a separate race. Saying Jews are a race is like saying Italians are a white race. Both are white ethnic groups. Both are Mediterranean Caucasians. The other Caucasians are Nordic and Alpine. The type of Mediterranean we are is Semitic. Jews also accept converts of any race or ethnicity. But I'm talking about the nation as a whole.

True. Understood.