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Title: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on October 17, 2007, 10:16:33 PM
German Poll: At Least 25% of Germans Support Some Aspects of Nazism
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071017/ap_on_re_eu/germany_nazi_era

My guess is that it is more like 99%, and the 74% of Aryans who denied looking fondly back on the Reich were those who were smarter and shrewder (for Western public opinion) than the Muzzies, who unanimously and gleefully report supporting 9/11 and wanting to see Israel destroyed.

Non-Muslim Gentile Nazis (except for the black ones) usually are more cunning and intelligent than Muslim Nazis, wouldn't you say?
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Ehud on October 17, 2007, 10:22:52 PM
You don't think that glorification of motherhood and building a transportation system are good in and of itself?  Of course they're not saying that Nazism in general was a good thing, but there are certain aspects, that taken by themselves and not taking into account the context of the situation, are good.  With everything good, there is always a little bad, and with everything that's bad, there's always a little bit of good, that's how the world is.

Just because there might have been 1% good, it doesn't change the fact that it was 99% bad.  The question they were posed is whether there are SOME good aspects of Nazism, not whether it was good as a whole. 
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on October 17, 2007, 11:53:32 PM
The point of my poll is to read what is obvious between the lines. If a large chunk of Germans say they supported some of what the Reich did, come on... do you really think they don't support its main objectives?

How does the vast majority of German citizenry feel about Israel, TODAY?
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: EagleEye on October 17, 2007, 11:56:21 PM
The poll doesn't say what you say it says.  I could argue that there are some good aspects of the Iranian president, but as a whole, I still don't SUPPORT him.  Surely Hitler was not the ideal leader, surely he caused suffering among Eastern Europeans, Gyspies, and Jews, but that doesn't mean EVERYTHING he did was bad.  If Hitler decided to use tooth paste when he brushes his teeth, it wouldn't make me decide not to.

The new German Nazi party is the NDP.  But I doubt 25% of the population supports that.
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Ehud on October 18, 2007, 12:00:15 AM
The point of my poll is to read what is obvious between the lines. If a large chunk of Germans say they supported some of what the Reich did, come on... do you really think they don't support its main objectives?

How does the vast majority of German citizenry feel about Israel, TODAY?

No, I don't think a majority support Nazism's main objectives, but there are probably more percentage-wise in Germany that do support its main objectives than in other countries, but that amount is still small.  Generally, Germans ARE more sympathetic to Nazism, but the overwhelming majority of Germans do not support Nazism in any way.

How does the vast majority of German citizenry feel about Israel?  Not any different than the vast majority of the world feels about Israel.  In fact, Germans are probably more sympathetic to Israel than almost every other European country.  Germans feel like they have some duty to Israel, whereas Europe is just completely anti-Semitic and anti-Israel. 

Germans are probably less anti-Semitic in general than other Europeans, Barbara Streisand has sold out concerts in Germany and there is a revival of Klezmer music in Germany because people are interested and sympathize with Jews to some extent. 

Of course Germany is mainly anti-Israel but this isn't any different than any other European country and this has nothing to do with Nazism and has everything to do with liberalism. 
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: EagleEye on October 18, 2007, 12:07:42 AM
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Of course Germany is mainly anti-Israel but this isn't any different than any other European country and this has nothing to do with Nazism and has everything to do with liberalism. 
100% agree.  Liberalism views Israel as a colonialist and racist state, they think they are fighting racism by fighting Israel.  That's not nazism.
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: raiseyourfist on October 18, 2007, 12:46:10 AM
IT is so rich that Germany views Israel as a racist country...

Germany: your racist jewish state is killing off the entire muslim population in the Gaza district...

Israel: well you almost wiped out all of my people so who are you to point fingers...
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 18, 2007, 12:50:51 AM
And many don't!We must understand  our new enemies.They don't wear Nazi Grey....They want us to think that, to mislead  us from our real threat,islam!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Der Russe on October 18, 2007, 01:41:31 AM
National Socialism is a very good system especially economically. I think if Israel was a National Socialist state for Jews it would be one of the most powerful states. Jews could really use policies like Lebensraum.
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Ehud on October 18, 2007, 01:44:43 AM
National Socialism is a very good system especially economically. I think if Israel was a National Socialist state for Jews it would be one of the most powerful states. Jews could really use policies like Lebensraum.

Socialism is a disaster.  Socialism is the reason why Israel is not able to unleash the power of its economy like it should be able to.  In the short run, in order to radically increase production, socialism works, but it's only useful as an artificial boost to an economy, it's not efficient in the long run.  Free market capitalism is the most efficient permanent market system, the only reason socialism is needed is for emergencies or large scale market failures where the market cannot correct itself.
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Der Russe on October 18, 2007, 01:49:39 AM
National Socialism is a very good system especially economically. I think if Israel was a National Socialist state for Jews it would be one of the most powerful states. Jews could really use policies like Lebensraum.

Socialism is a disaster.  Socialism is the reason why Israel is not able to unleash the power of its economy like it should be able to.  In the short run, in order to radically increase production, socialism works, but it's only useful as an artificial boost to an economy, it's not efficient in the long run.  Free market capitalism is the most efficient permanent market system, the only reason socialism is needed is for emergencies or large scale market failures where the market cannot correct itself.

National Socialism is only called "Socialist" to get the support of the Working people. In Weimar Germany they were under attack from communists who had a lot of support. It is only called that for strategic purposes. It was closer to Mussolinis Fascism than to Socialism. 
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Ralph1 on October 18, 2007, 01:57:24 AM
German Poll: At Least 25% of Germans Support Some Aspects of Nazism
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071017/ap_on_re_eu/germany_nazi_era

My guess is that it is more like 99%, and the 74% of Aryans who denied looking fondly back on the Reich were those who were smarter and shrewder (for Western public opinion) than the Muzzies, who unanimously and gleefully report supporting 9/11 and wanting to see Israel destroyed.

Non-Muslim Gentile Nazis (except for the black ones) usually are more cunning and intelligent than Muslim Nazis, wouldn't you say?
No way. If the Germans were Nazis they'd never allow their government to bring 2 million Turks into their country. Germans are more pro-American than the French or English.
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Ehud on October 18, 2007, 02:01:24 AM
National Socialism is a very good system especially economically. I think if Israel was a National Socialist state for Jews it would be one of the most powerful states. Jews could really use policies like Lebensraum.

Socialism is a disaster.  Socialism is the reason why Israel is not able to unleash the power of its economy like it should be able to.  In the short run, in order to radically increase production, socialism works, but it's only useful as an artificial boost to an economy, it's not efficient in the long run.  Free market capitalism is the most efficient permanent market system, the only reason socialism is needed is for emergencies or large scale market failures where the market cannot correct itself.

National Socialism is only called "Socialist" to get the support of the Working people. In Weimar Germany they were under attack from communists who had a lot of support. It is only called that for strategic purposes. It was closer to Mussolinis Fascism than to Socialism. 

Yes, but the economy was still socialist.  There was still heavy state involvement in the economy, that's called state socialism.  It wasn't a free-market system.
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Der Russe on October 18, 2007, 02:03:20 AM
National Socialism is a very good system especially economically. I think if Israel was a National Socialist state for Jews it would be one of the most powerful states. Jews could really use policies like Lebensraum.

Socialism is a disaster.  Socialism is the reason why Israel is not able to unleash the power of its economy like it should be able to.  In the short run, in order to radically increase production, socialism works, but it's only useful as an artificial boost to an economy, it's not efficient in the long run.  Free market capitalism is the most efficient permanent market system, the only reason socialism is needed is for emergencies or large scale market failures where the market cannot correct itself.

National Socialism is only called "Socialist" to get the support of the Working people. In Weimar Germany they were under attack from communists who had a lot of support. It is only called that for strategic purposes. It was closer to Mussolinis Fascism than to Socialism. 

Yes, but the economy was still socialist.  There was still heavy state involvement in the economy, that's called state socialism.  It wasn't a free-market system.

That is called fascism not socialism.
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 18, 2007, 02:15:28 AM
What is that noise I hear?Its StørmFrønt calling you home nazi!Quit the shiite and go home!
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Der Russe on October 18, 2007, 02:57:29 AM
What is that noise I hear?Its StørmFrønt calling you home nazi!Quit the shiite and go home!

I think the NAACP is calling you and your daughter.
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 18, 2007, 03:04:14 AM
So you are a racist?I figured that.Why don't you swine go home and lick your wounds from that WW11,LOL And say another thing about my daughter and we will meet arse hole!You barley know me but if you think you can come here to sow discord .So be it!Say Hi bro to your buddies at Størm Frønt!LOL
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Der Russe on October 18, 2007, 03:10:34 AM
So you are a racist?I figured that.Why don't you swine go home and lick your wounds from that WW11,LOL And say another thing about my daughter and we will meet arse hole!You barley know me but if you think you can come here to sow discord .So be it!Say Hi bro to your buddies at Størm Frønt!LOL

You started with me first. It is not my fault you  betrayed your own cause "Christian White Nation". If you wish to meet me then feel free. Say Hi to Louis Farrakhan for me
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 18, 2007, 03:23:20 AM
Ban this [censored] hater!He say s I betray my people [whites] without know what I mean.I remember this arse hole.I have a good memory .But f@#$ ,let him hang himself!
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Der Russe on October 18, 2007, 03:28:59 AM
If it is the will of everyone here for me to leave without needing to be banned. Just give me the word
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 18, 2007, 03:30:07 AM
Word.Nazi!
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 18, 2007, 03:32:48 AM
Should I hate blacks and Jews to make you happy.I love who God made me ,but I will not hate anyone!Thats your game.Go back where you came from.We have no fear of losers like you.BYE!
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Ehud on October 18, 2007, 03:33:14 AM
If it is the will of everyone here for me to leave without needing to be banned. Just give me the word

You don't need to necessarily leave, as long as we know who you are.  You've said some Nazi-like things against Jews and how there is a conspiracy against "your people", and you also seem to think that Jews hate whites and are actively seeking to destroy them somehow.  That is typical white nationalist/nazi rhetoric.  On the other hand, you claim that you support Israel as a Jewish state and you believe in the bible, and you aren't a nazi sympathizer or white nationalist.  It's not the will of everyone that you leave, and you won't be banned unless you decide to start acting like a Nazi.  But before I speak too soon you should probably say what your views are, especially concerning Jews and how they are actively trying to destroy your "people". 
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Der Russe on October 18, 2007, 03:37:20 AM
If it is the will of everyone here for me to leave without needing to be banned. Just give me the word

You don't need to necessarily leave, as long as we know who you are.  You've said some Nazi-like things against Jews and how there is a conspiracy against "your people", and you also seem to think that Jews hate whites and are actively seeking to destroy them somehow.  That is typical white nationalist/nazi rhetoric.  On the other hand, you claim that you support Israel as a Jewish state and you believe in the bible, and you aren't a nazi sympathizer or white nationalist.  It's not the will of everyone that you leave, and you won't be banned unless you decide to start acting like a Nazi.  But before I speak too soon you should probably say what your views are, especially concerning Jews and how they are actively trying to destroy your "people". 

My views on the Jews are slightly different. I think that Jews in the exile developed self-destructive behavior(somehow). I think that they all need to be in the Jewish homeland that god gave them where they can fix their weaknesses from the exile... where they are not harming any other nations... and eventually help and be a spiritual light to the rest of the world.
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 18, 2007, 03:40:05 AM
That was very nice.
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Angry Panther on October 18, 2007, 10:04:19 AM
All krauts are nazis! In Germany they have many of the concentration camps and other nazi historical sites are open to the general public. It's almost like there gloating over what they did to the jews during WW2. Have they no humility!THERE NAZIS! THERE KRAUTS!


Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Lisa on October 18, 2007, 10:10:00 AM
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My views on the Jews are slightly different. I think that Jews in the exile developed self-destructive behavior(somehow). I think that they all need to be in the Jewish homeland that G-d gave them where they can fix their weaknesses from the exile... where they are not harming any other nations... and eventually help and be a spiritual light to the rest of the world.

How dare you come on here and accuse the Jews of "harming other nations!"  It sounds like you want Jews to be in Israel not out of any caring for them, but because you blame them for all the ills of this world.  If that's what you really think, and you'd better explain yourself fast, you need to be out of here.
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: HiWarp on October 18, 2007, 10:29:39 AM
Surveys and polls are a joke.  The questions can be manipulated in such a way as to get the answer you seek.

1) Despite all the evil that the Nazis perpetrated, do you feel that some of their policies such as the construction of the highway system, the elimination of unemployment, the low criminality rate (and) the encouragement of the family were beneficial?

Most likely answer, yes.

2) Do you think that some of the policies of the Nazis such as the construction of the highway system, the elimination of unemployment, the low criminality rate (and) the encouragement of the family outweigh the negative aspects of Nazism, the Holocaust and World War II?

Most likely answer, no.

This is not meant to justify the poll results, only to show that results can be easily manipulated by the pollsters.
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: AussieJTFer on October 18, 2007, 05:57:55 PM
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where they are not harming any other nations

Can you explain or provide examples of how Jews have "harmed other nations"? You also haven't answered my previous question.
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on October 18, 2007, 06:28:31 PM
Der Russe:  "...If it is the will of everyone here for me to leave without needing to be banned. Just give me the word..."

I want you to leave.  I want you banned, along with the other Størm Frønt trolls who joined the forum along with you.

Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 18, 2007, 06:34:49 PM
Ditto
Title: Re: Poll: Many Germans Support National Socialism
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 18, 2007, 06:40:12 PM
They seem to have come on a buy two get one free deal. :::D