One in six Londoners avoid Muslims on buses, trains

[Hail Columbia]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060905/wl_uk_afp/britaintransportpoliticssecurityreligion

LONDON (AFP) - One in six people in Britain's capital have admitted moving seats on public transport to avoid a passenger they think is Muslim, according to a survey published.
 
Some 35 percent of travellers in London said they had felt nervous or uncomfortable in the last year because someone of south Asian or north African appearance had got on their underground train or bus.

Of that number, nearly half said they had moved seats or sat down away from them, the survey, by pollsters YouGov for London's Evening Standard newspaper, suggested on Tuesday.

On July 7 last year, 56 people were killed when four Muslim suicide bombers -- three of them Britons of Pakistani origin -- detonated explosives on three underground trains and a double-decker bus.

An alleged plot to replicate the attacks was foiled two weeks later and since then there have been a number of high-profile counter-terrorism operations.

Last month more than two dozen people, most of them British Pakistanis, were arrested in connection with an alleged conspiracy to blow up US-bound passenger jets.

Soon after those arrests, which ushered in unprecedented security at airports, two Urdu-speaking Muslim students from Manchester, northwest England, were taken off a British charter jet after their fellow passengers voiced concerns.

There was also concern at an alleged proposal to introduce passenger profiling along racial and/or religious lines, which one senior Muslim police officer warned could create a new offence of "travelling while Asian".

The poll said just five percent of respondents backed special checks at airports on men who appear to be of "Asian or north African origin".

A further 45 percent said they backed random checks of all passengers, with special attention paid to men with Asian or north African features.

But 46 percent said nobody should be singled out because of their background or appearance.

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[MassuhDGoodName]

WHY...OF COURSE!

THEY ALL HAVE NOSES, DON'T THEY?

HOPEFULLY, THEY'LL SOON START PUSHING THE RAGS UNDERNEATH THE WHEELS OF BUSES AND TRAINS.

[Scriabin]

The English people are finished.

[Rhuan]

That last comment was very friendly of you....

[Scriabin]

That last comment was very friendly of you....

Come now.  This isn't about friendliness.  It is about truth.

The English are even MORE afraid of doing what is right against evil than we are here in America.

Furthermore, there are MANY more muslims per capita in England than there are in America.

Do the math and don't take offense.

[Rhuan]

I'm English.

[Scriabin]

I'm English.

I know.  This is irrelevant.  STOP TAKING OFFENCE.  This is a forum for debate, not a warm and fuzzy forum.  I am not attacking you.  I am merely stating what I feel to be the truth.

[Rhuan]

I don't really see much difference beween the ignborance in america, and the ignorance in the uk myself.

Here is a part of a debate I had with an american, note the bits I have made bold:

Rhuan:

Muhammad fought lots of wars, go and read about him.
The bible never calls anyone a "devil"
Are you trying to say that you think Islam holds together? Because it seriously doesn't, go and read the quran, and the hadiths, then pass judgement.

Him:

Erm, the Bible makes lots of accusations of what qualifies people as a Devil/Sinner (same thing to Puritans), even though it's not like "THIS IS A LIST OF PEOPLE THAT ARE DEVILS." Also Muhammed himself never fought any war, people may have fought wars in his name but that was against the direct wishes of the Quran. Even if he DID fight a war, he still can think that they are evil. Most of the people that fought in Vietnam were fully against wars in general. Also what do you mean by "Islam holds together?" If you think it has too many outrageous statements, read the Bible and Leviticus. If you mean it is not a valid religion, it is just as valid as Christianity or Judaism. All 3 of those religions are closely related, no matter how much you believe they aren't. If you mean Allah isn't real, he is just a real as your God, as they are one in the same. Monotheism dictates that there is one God, an omnipotent being. Allah is the same as God, God is the same as Allah. So basically Islam can claim being true just as much as Christianity can, because there is no truth to either. There is no "one true religion" because there is no way to confirm the existence of God, or what He wishes.

Rhuan:

You have evidently never read the quran:
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah or the Last Day, and they do not forbid what Allah and His messenger have forbidden, and they do not uphold the system of truth; from among the people who have been given the Scripture; until they pay the fine, willingly or unwillingly."
Qur'an, Sura 9:29


And, to spell things out to you more clearly:http://activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8251

Him:

Erm, that link you providied has NO BASIS AT ALL. You cannot argue that they are not the same God. There is no proof of anything of the sort. There is no proof that there is even a God at all. Ok, I may have been wrong about the war thing, I have indeed not read the Quran. I have better things to do than find faults in a religion that has no validity at all (this includes Christianity.)

[El Cabong!]

When I see a muslim, I get a bad taste in my mouth, a bad smell in my nose, and dirty look on my face. I cannot stand to be around them and find my way away from them.  It is my right and my choice to dislike the muslim filth and their ilk and most of the people who I know and have any brains feel the same way. They are untrutworthy, backstabbing hateful animals and this I found out after the taking of our embassy in Iran in 1979. They don't understand friendship, diplomacy or tolerance, only overwhelming force and relentess punishment. Look at the middle east, there has never been more Americans there in the history of man. This they brought on themselves by their stupidity and ignorance. And there hasn't been so many arabs and muslims dying even before 9/11.

Go USA and ISRAEL, F*CK all arabs and muslims.