Who would volunteer

[Kiwi]

haha what hole. You misread. I said 'romans(italians) copied  greek culture'

Romans are Italians.

[DALMACIJA]

Some parts of Dalmacija (Dalmatia) belonged to Italy.
The communist regime of Tito occupied Italian Dalmatia and united it with communist republic of Croatia.

If Italia wasn't part of the axis powers during WW2, some parts of Dalmatia would be Italian today. Croatia wouldn’t be able to function as a normal country.
Serbs from Dalmatia would probable prefer to live under Italian government than under Croatian.

The creation of Yugoslavia after WW2 was the victory for Croatia.
Croatia a Nazi genocidal country enjoyed the same benefits as the anti Fascist nations of Yugoslavia did (SFRJ).

[Husar]

Some parts of Dalmacija (Dalmatia) belonged to Italy.
The communist regime of Tito occupied Italian Dalmatia and united it with communist republic of Croatia.

If Italia wasn't part of the axis powers during WW2, some parts of Dalmatia would be Italian today. Croatia wouldn’t be able to function as a normal country.
Serbs from Dalmatia would probable prefer to live under Italian government than under Croatian.

The creation of Yugoslavia after WW2 was the victory for Croatia.
Croatia a Nazi genocidal country enjoyed the same benefits as the anti Fascist nations of Yugoslavia did (SFRJ).

NO plural to this, Sir: Serbia was/is the ONE AND ONLY Anti-fascist Nation, in former-yugothing.

 



Vivano gli Irredentisti !!!

Italia e Serbia per siempre !!!

Morto alla croazia !!!

Here are the future slaughtered Italians,
lead to horrible death by NAZICROATS,
right after WWII was over
(NAZICROATS NEVER CEASED
TO BE NAZIS, up to today):



They remain known as the "FOIBARI",
MAY THEY BE AVENGED.

Here's the ENEMY:



DEATH TO IT.

[DALMACIJA]

NO plural to this,

My appologies you are right.

Correction: i wanted to say:
The only nation who collective participated in the anti fascist actions at the Balkans were the Serbs.

Hvala na primedbi!

[Husar]

NO plural to this,

My appologies you are right.

Correction: i wanted to say:
The only nation who collective participated in the anti fascist actions at the Balkans were the Serbs.

Hvala na primedbi!

 

[Serbian Cetnik (šumadinac)]

Skippy sorry if I hurt your pride, but hey thats what happens. I mean we have turkish words in the Serbian vocabulary, we eat turkish food and we even have music thats influenced by turkish music... THe only difference is that Romans liked the Greeks, But we were occupied.

[Ultra Requete]

haha what hole. You misread. I said 'romans(italians) copied  greek culture'

Romans are Italians.

Europeans are modern Greeks and Americans ( in broad sense including Kiwis, Ausies, Canuks and old stock  Brits) are modern Romans. Russia is modern Macedonia. It's shocking tha Croatia being axis power fighting for the Hitler to the end got teritories from Italy which was alied country from 1943.    

[Serbian Cetnik (šumadinac)]

Dalmacija has since the breakup of the Roman Empire always been Serb. Venice(City state) was on its way to the holy land(Jerusalem) and on the way the pillaged from Dalmacija to Constantinopole.

[DALMACIJA]

After the collapse of the Roman empire many nations ruled over Dalmatia.

The Serbian state never occupied any areas of Dalmatia.
But that does not mean that we the Serbs were not ethnic present in Dalmatia.

Dalmatia was ruled after the end of the Roman empire by the Greeks than by the Italians for a long time, Hungary and Austria controlled Dalmatia till the end of the WW1.

But that the Serbs have been present for centuries long in areas of Dalmatia is a fact! Region Dalmatia has Serbian presence since the 9 the century.

In the 14 century before the battle of Kosovo the Serbs established two Serbian orthodox monasteries in Dalmatia, 1317 monastery Krupa, 1336 monastery Krka near Knin.

[Husar]

haha what hole. You misread. I said 'romans(italians) copied  greek culture'

Romans are Italians.

Europeans are modern Greeks and Americans ( in broad sense including Kiwis, Ausies, Canuks and old stock  Brits) are modern Romans. Russia is modern Macedonia. It's shocking tha Croatia being axis power fighting for the Hitler to the end got teritories from Italy which was alied country from 1943.    

Dear Ultra Requete,
EVERYTHING about NAZICROATIA is shocking,
to say the least...

 

[Kiwi]

Skippy sorry if I hurt your pride, but hey thats what happens. I mean we have turkish words in the Serbian vocabulary, we eat turkish food and we even have music thats influenced by turkish music... THe only difference is that Romans liked the Greeks, But we were occupied.

It amazes me where you would put the Estrucians  in your theory?

[Husar]

Skippy sorry if I hurt your pride, but hey thats what happens. I mean we have turkish words in the Serbian vocabulary, we eat turkish food and we even have music thats influenced by turkish music... THe only difference is that Romans liked the Greeks, But we were occupied.

It amazes me where you would put the Estrucians  in your theory?

Etruscans are very interesting to us, Serbs.

[DALMACIJA]

Skippy sorry if I hurt your pride, but hey thats what happens. I mean we have turkish words in the Serbian vocabulary, we eat turkish food and we even have music thats influenced by turkish music... THe only difference is that Romans liked the Greeks, But we were occupied.

Turkish influence... Yes but not on a high level.

Look we Serbs from Krajina were not occupied by the Turks.
The Serbs from Montenegro also were not conquered by the Turks.
Only central Serbia and some part of Bosnia were 500 under Turkish occupation.

And we all Serbs from all sides have almost everything in common with each other:
like music, culture etc..

[Kiwi]

Skippy sorry if I hurt your pride, but hey thats what happens. I mean we have turkish words in the Serbian vocabulary, we eat turkish food and we even have music thats influenced by turkish music... THe only difference is that Romans liked the Greeks, But we were occupied.

It amazes me where you would put the Estrucians  in your theory?

Etruscans are very interesting to us, Serbs.

In what way Husar?

[Husar]

Skippy sorry if I hurt your pride, but hey thats what happens. I mean we have turkish words in the Serbian vocabulary, we eat turkish food and we even have music thats influenced by turkish music... THe only difference is that Romans liked the Greeks, But we were occupied.

Turkish influence... Yes but not on a high level.

Look we Serbs from Krajina were not occupied by the Turks.
The Serbs from Montenegro also were not conquered by the Turks.
Only central Serbia and some part of Bosnia were 500 under Turkish occupation.

And we all Serbs from all sides have almost everything in common with each other:
like music, culture etc..

This turkish occupation is such a funny thing...
you were, we weren't (occupied), and so on...
In the so-called turkish occupied Central Serbia,
Serbs are much blonder, fair-haired, fair-eyed,
than anywhere else in Serbian Lands.
To prove this, I could send photographs
of Serbian People living there, near Krushevats.
You'd bet it's in Sweden, in Norway, or in Denmark...
NO: it's in turkish occupied (once) Central Serbia.

 

[DALMACIJA]

You'd bet it's in Sweden, in Norway, or in Denmark...
NO: it's in turkish occupied (once) Central Serbia.

 

We Serbs from Krajina, Hercegovina, Bosnia and from Montenegro were not occupied by the Turks.

But we have approximately more dark hared and dark eyed people than central Serbia.

[Ambiorix]

You'd bet it's in Sweden, in Norway, or in Denmark...
NO: it's in turkish occupied (once) Central Serbia.

 

We Serbs from Krajina, Hercegovina, Bosnia and from Montenegro were not occupied by the Turks.

But we have approximately more dark hared and dark eyed people than central Serbia.

That story proves Turks were blond people before they intermarried with Serbs

[Husar]

Skippy sorry if I hurt your pride, but hey thats what happens. I mean we have turkish words in the Serbian vocabulary, we eat turkish food and we even have music thats influenced by turkish music... THe only difference is that Romans liked the Greeks, But we were occupied.

It amazes me where you would put the Estrucians  in your theory?

Etruscans are very interesting to us, Serbs.

In what way Husar?

Dear Skippy,
first of all, the Etruscans
called themselves RASENI.

And JUST this is quite
(in fact very) important for us, Serbs,
you'll see with your own eyes why, in which way,
and I'm glad to show you this, Sister...

From somewhere, in the google,
I just typed etruschi raseni:

Opere - Résultats Google Recherche de Livres de Vincenzo Gioberti - 1844
Quei mirabili Etruschi o Raseni, cui Dionigi fa navigare dall' Asia minore, e alcuni moderni traggono dalle Alpi e dalla Rezia, si mescolarono certo nei due ...
books.google.com/books?id=rvANAAAAYAAJ...

And:

"ESPRESSO".
Il Giornale Italiano di Mosca
E anche se per i nostri antenati, fossero essi etruschi, assiri od egizi, ...
I greci li chiamavano “tirreni”, mentre loro stessi si definivano “raseni”. ...

From:
http://www.espressoweb.ru/it/04-05/c3-85i.html

Where it is also said (for how many times, in History ?!!!...):
"La civiltа misteriosa, esistita dal IX al I secolo a.C., svela malvolentieri i suoi misteri, riscaldando in tal modo l’interesse a quelle poche cose che ne sono rimaste. Nel 1990 il museo in via Volkhonka aveva giа ospitato una mostra di antichitа etrusche."

 

Yes: supposed to be the Ancestors
of the modern Italians, even of Romans,
the Etruscans are "MISTERIOSI"
to "their -own- descendants"...

 

Another time:
"I Greci li chiamavano TIRRENI, i Romani li chiamavano TUSCI,
loro pare si chiamassero RASENI.
Oggi li conosciamo come ETRUSCHI abitanti della regioneEtruria."

From:
http://www.rcvr.org/cultura/sda/star06.htm

Or this:
ASSOCIAZIONE CULTURALE NTERNET PADANO
Da alcuni secoli vi stavano, quando i Raseni o Etruschi,
venuti per l'Alpi Rezie, li spossessarono della terra e dei secento loro villaggi. ...
www.padaniacity.org/articoli.asp?ID=516 - 60k - En cache - Pages similaires

This:
Libro - IBS - Un infinito numero. Virgilio e Mecenate nel paese ...
Non ci sarà futuro per i Rasna o Raseni o Etruschi.
I culti dell'antica dodecapoli sono ormai vano folklore, la prodigiosa tecnica degli orafi è perduta, ...
www.internetbookshop.it/code/9788806147457/vassalli-sebastiano/infinito-numero-virgilio.html - 49k - En cache - Pages similaires

And this also:
Scuola Italica (frammenti) -
Giovanni Ranella BREVE ACCENNO ALLE ANTICHITA’ TIRRENICHE :
il popolo dei Raseni- Tirreni o Etruschi
Tages: figura mitica della Tradizione Etrusca, l’illustre Semerano, ...
www.equilibriarte.org/mercuriale/blog - 39k - En cache - Pages similaires

 

Now, after these few examples,
but much more exist, either on the net, or in books,
why is this RASENI Name so important to us, Serbs ?

Well, Skippy, we Serbs called ourselves RAShANI / were called by others: RASCIANS,
from Rashka/Rascia, Name of the Serbian State in the Middle-Ages.

See this, in Italian:

Rascia
Da Wikipedia, l'enciclopedia libera.
Vai a: Navigazione, cerca
 Questa voce di storia è solo un abbozzo: contribuisci a migliorarla secondo le convenzioni di Wikipedia.
La Raška (scritto anche come Raschka, Rascia, Rassa) fu lo stato serbo più importante e ricco durante il Medioevo il quale riunì le tribù serbe, presenti allora in quella che oggi è la Serbia, con i Balcani.

L'attuale Rascia corrisponde all'area centro-meridionale della Serbia, in particolare il distretto di Raška. La Rascia è anche chiamata Sandžak dai serbi musulmani.

From:
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rascia


See Raska, so close to Italy:



 

Here, look at Rascia (Serbia), CONTAING Raguse, today's Dubrovnik,
a then Serbo-Italian town, now stolen by NAZICROATS, who never were there before:



 

Have at look at Rascians (Serbians) here also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raci

...with a map of "Ratzen-Stadt" in german, the "City of the Rascians" (Serbians),
nowadays known under the name "Novi Sad" (New Seed...of Serbs):



Serbs kept the Memory of their former Name RAShANI,
wherever they settled in the Balkanic Peninsula.

 

Here is a medieval-reconstruction Serbian WebSite called RASCIA.ORG:
http://www.rascia.org/galerija/4/
http://www.rascia.org/galerija/3/
http://www.rascia.org/clanovi/

How would RASENI call THEIR Country ?
"Italia" ?
"Rome" ?
Or as the Serbian RAShANI having RAShKA, RASCIA,
would they call it RASCA, RASCIA ?

 

Even thought the Romans wanted to exterminate the RASENI,
the RASENI succeeded to survive, by melting themselves,
forcibly or not, to the roman element.

Their Blood is in Italian Blood now.

 

This was the first interesting thing about the RASENI,
in the eyes, soul and heart of a RAShAN(-I when plural, in Serbian, like in Italian).

 

PUT THIS:

Alpin-Tour Gebietszugang via:
Capanna del Forno, Capanna Allievi
Zustiege:
Capanna del Forno (2574m.ü.M.) vom Passo del Maloja (4h):
Passo del Maloja - Orden - Lägh da Cavloc - Alp da Cavloc - Plan Cavin - P.1992 - Vad del Forno - Capanna del Forno
Capanna del Forno (2574m.ü.M.) von Chiareggio (4.5h):
Chiareggio - Alp dellOro - Alp Monterosso Inf. - Val Bona - Sella del Forno - Capanna del Forno
Capanna Allievi (2387m.ü.M.) von San Martino, Parkplatz Ca die Rogni (4h):
Ca die Rogni - Rifugio Fiorilli - Valle di Mello - Casera Zocca - Il Pianone - Capanna Allievi
Gipfel:
Punta Rascia (3306m.ü.M.) über den SE-Grat (5h; IV):
Capanna del Forno - P.2380 - P.2500 - P.2595 - Colle Rascia - Punta Rascia

Punta Rascia (3306m.ü.M.) über die W-Flanke (5h; II - IV):
Capanna Allievi - P.2600 - Firnrücken - Punta Rascia
From:
http://www.gps-tracks.com/gps-alpin-tour-b%C3%BCndner-alpen-punta-rascia-(3306m.%C3%B.C.E..m.)-H00469.html

....in correlation to THIS,
that I already dispayed up above:

ASSOCIAZIONE CULTURALE NTERNET PADANO
Da alcuni secoli vi stavano, quando i Raseni o Etruschi,
venuti per l'Alpi Rezie, li spossessarono della terra e dei secento loro villaggi. ...
www.padaniacity.org/articoli.asp?ID=516 - 60k - En cache - Pages similaires

...and to THIS,
already displayed also:

Opere - Résultats Google Recherche de Livres de Vincenzo Gioberti - 1844
Quei mirabili Etruschi o Raseni, cui Dionigi fa navigare dall' Asia minore, e alcuni moderni traggono dalle Alpi e dalla Rezia, si mescolarono certo nei due ...
books.google.com/books?id=rvANAAAAYAAJ...

 

(Punta, Alpian) Rascia...Raseni (o Etruschi)
...said by Italians themselves.

 

And I can say to you, Skippy,
that there's NOTHING bad in having Rascian Blood
in your veins, on the contrary.

 

Isn't this all interesting ?...

 

[Husar]

Look also at my own signature,
from almost my first day of registering to our Forum:

"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
--


CcCc

 

RAShANI, RAC, RACZ, RASSA, RASCIA, RAShKA...in every form...

 

[DALMACIJA]

You'd bet it's in Sweden, in Norway, or in Denmark...
NO: it's in turkish occupied (once) Central Serbia.

 

We Serbs from Krajina, Hercegovina, Bosnia and from Montenegro were not occupied by the Turks.




But we have approximately more dark hared and dark eyed people than central Serbia.

That story proves Turks were blond people before they intermarried with Serbs

Well, some people claim that the Serbs from central Serbia are more dark eyed and dark haired than the Serbs accros the river Drina. That's not true Serbs from those lands who weren't occupied by the Turks are also in general more dark haired and dark eyed.

[Husar]

Everybody:
the interesting thing is that Central Serbia
is always said to be turkier than any other Balkanic state,
EVEN bosnomuSSlimnazis mock us, Serbs, because of this "occupation" !!!
Not speakig of NAZICROATS, who claim to be sooo "pure"
(have a look at the ustasha/nazicroat pictures,
you'll see cannibals, with almost no Human features
on their "european faces"...)
YET, the amount of fair-haired, fair-eyed Serbian People
is greater in Central Serbia proper, than anywhere else in the Balkans.

 

[DALMACIJA]

" !!!
Not speakig of NAZICROATS, who claim to be sooo "pure"
(have a look at the ustasha/nazicroat pictures,
you'll see cannibals,

Yess cannibals   

[Serbian Cetnik (šumadinac)]

Im very surprised that we could survive Venice and Turkish occupation and the Hungarians and Bulgarians and STILL form a Kingdom... We are much stronger when pushed:P

[Husar]

Im very surprised that we could survive Venice and Turkish occupation and the Hungarians and Bulgarians and STILL form a Kingdom... We are much stronger when pushed:P

You 're absolutely right.
I guess that it's BECAUSE we're "pushed",
we want to fight and survive,
whatever the cost.

 

[Ultra Requete]

You'd bet it's in Sweden, in Norway, or in Denmark...
NO: it's in turkish occupied (once) Central Serbia.

 

We Serbs from Krajina, Hercegovina, Bosnia and from Montenegro were not occupied by the Turks.

But we have approximately more dark hared and dark eyed people than central Serbia.

Propably have some Dalmatian and Roman blood, Dubrovnik was estblished as Raguza by Dalmato-romans escaping Slavic invasion in VII century, our Romanian members shud know more about this... In any case it was never croatian city before 1945.