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Wahabi trial in Serbia
« on: January 16, 2008, 04:29:44 AM »


hopefully husar can translate it for our english members and re-post it:)

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Re: Wahabi trial in Serbia
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2008, 11:11:59 AM »
Wouldn't I be "childish", then ?

At 20 seconds:
reporter Vel(j)ko Medich:

"Answering to the questions of the members of the judgment council (...)
the accused Senad Ramovich has declared
that he's the one who commanded the place
where they kept the weapons on the mount Neeney.
After his own words, he and others, as he said, members of
"ehrisuneta" (?) (iSSlamic organization, Husar note)
wanted to put aside these weapons, and to dig them in other places.
The accused Ramovich states that they didn't disturb the "believers"
of the ARAB-MOSQUE, but that muffti Zukorlich did it.
He (Ramovich) said that they didn't forbid anything to the people,
only that they did "warn", on how he said, "novelties in faith".
Ramovich explained that it was shot (gun) many times on him,
and that's why he carried weapons.
Anew, he said he isn't WAHABIT,
neither did he ever see some (WAHABIT).

End of the reporter's interview.

At 1 minut,
the female journalist says:

"On the judgement of the fourteen NOVI-PAZAR's (city) WAHABITS,
the first accused Senad Ramovich stated that he and his same-thinkers
had there lifes endangered because of their faith's orientation.
He said they weren't planning no terrorist attack on Serbia and Novi-Pazar,
neither did they disturb other believers in mosques.
The accusation charges them for evil-doer kinship, terrorism
and un-authorized maintenance of weapons and ammonition."

At 1mn 28sec,
male journalist's voice speaking:

"The accused Ramovich said he's the one who found the place,
on the mount Neeney, where they later kept the weapons.
He states that the mufti Muamer Zukorlich
is the one that disturbs the believers,
and that the accusation should be held against him.
After ramovich's words, the accused ones
didn't forbid anything to the believers.
They just warned them about, how he says:
"novelties in faith".

At 1mn 45sec,
another male journalist's voice
reads Ramovich's claim:

"Today is normal
everything that is abnormal.
It's not normal for someone to have two wives,
but it's normal to have one wife, and five mistresses."

Back to the first male journalist's voice,
speaking further:

"Ramovich explained that it was shotten (gun) numerous times on them,
and that's why they bought weapons, although he alone thinks
that there were more weapons than necessary."

Then, at 2mn 01sec, you have
a snail-like SERBIAN (!!!) advocate of Ramovich,
speaking:

"They kept (weapons) in order to protect themselves
from the armed team of Sandzak's (region) mufti Zukorlich."

Back to the first male journalist's voice,
speaking, at 2mn 13sec:

"And today is ordered an ante-meridiem pause,
so that it is MADE POSSIBLE for the accused to PRAY.
In the following judgement, the third-accused Adnan Hot
announced that he thinks the centers of terrorismare in Washington.
He says that he recognizes Serbia as his State,
and that he sees no reason somebody would call him a terrorist.
In his defence, he said that he didn't participate
in the plan of killing the Serbian mufti Zukorlich,
neither to attack the Serbian police-station.
From april to december 2006, he was in Ulcinj (city),
and about the camp in Neeney mount, he said he heard on the TV."

At 2mn 44sec,
another male journalist's voice,
reading Adnan Hot's defence:
"I didn't collect money for weapons
so that they would be used against
my State and my faith-community.
I'm not able to use a computer,
and thus, not able to communicate
with iSSlamic mentors from abroad."

At 2mn 57sec,
back to the reporter,
in picture, speaking:

"The accused Jasmin Smailovich says that
the accusations because of an attack on
the american embassy and on the theater,
in Belgrade, are laughable,
and that it is all maked-up and added.
He stated that he didn't keep weapons,
and didn't wish to answer to
(...the court, in short)
(end of the report)."

 :P :P :P

Guys, please, when putting some Serbian information,
please, for my Health's sake, translate it yourself...
Thank you.

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"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Wahabi trial in Serbia
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2008, 11:48:53 AM »
I didn't mean it that way:P i meant like translate it and then post the video:P because i dont know how to ripp the video off youtube:P

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Re: Wahabi trial in Serbia
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2008, 01:50:32 PM »
I didn't mean it that way:P i meant like translate it and then post the video:P because i dont know how to ripp the video off youtube:P

Waow, you were asking
all of that from me ?!!!

 :D

Don't you remember
it's not a long time now
I even know how to post
pictures in this great forum ?...

And that's thanks to you,
Serbian Cetnik, to kellymaureen, and to Ambiorix.

"Rippin a video off"...?!!!

My goodness...

 :laugh:



"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Wahabi trial in Serbia
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2008, 05:35:18 PM »
well that's what its called:P

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Re: Wahabi trial in Serbia
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2008, 03:59:43 PM »
Nice translation...

Good work!

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Re: Wahabi trial in Serbia
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2008, 04:08:04 PM »
Nice translation...

Good work!

Thank you, DALMACIJA.

But it's quite some work.

It takes some time to do it properly...

And I hardly get thanked for this...so, you're welcome.

 ;)
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Wahabi trial in Serbia
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2008, 04:10:10 PM »
You have talent whit languages.

You make good propaganda pictures and you control your languages. That is a very good combination.

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Re: Wahabi trial in Serbia
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2008, 04:12:01 PM »

And I hardly get thanked for this...so, you're welcome.


Correct, they should at least thank you.

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Re: Wahabi trial in Serbia
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2008, 04:13:05 PM »
Sorry Husar, I thought I did. Thank you

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Re: Wahabi trial in Serbia
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2008, 04:16:11 PM »
You have talent whit languages.

You make good propaganda pictures and you control your languages. That is a very good combination.


I guess it is because
I'm a "twin", in horoscope.
There, it is said we "twins"
are skilled in art,
communication...
Who knows ?

 ???



You made me
a great compliment,
DALMACIJA,
thank you very much,
it's good to read.

 8;)

 :) :) :)
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Wahabi trial in Serbia
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2008, 04:16:57 PM »

And I hardly get thanked for this...so, you're welcome.


Correct, they should at least thank you.

Who cares, a Husar is a tough guy.
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Wahabi trial in Serbia
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2008, 04:17:29 PM »
Sorry Husar, I thought I did. Thank you

You're welcome, Daddy...

 ;)
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Wahabi trial in Serbia
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2008, 12:45:32 PM »

And I hardly get thanked for this...so, you're welcome.


Correct, they should at least thank you.

Who cares, a Husar is a tough guy.

Yes O0 O0 O0