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Re: Grand Theft Auto IV video game allows killing of Jews (Video)
« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2008, 08:34:40 PM »
And these games are focused to be sold to young people.

It's rated Mature (17+) which is equivalent to a Rated R movie, but parents buy their kids the game without looking at the rating.

If they buy through online shopping it doesn't matter
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Re: Grand Theft Auto IV video game allows killing of Jews (Video)
« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2008, 09:13:46 PM »
And these games are focused to be sold to young people.

It's rated Mature (17+) which is equivalent to a Rated R movie, but parents buy their kids the game without looking at the rating.

If they buy through online shopping it doesn't matter

Still need a credit card, you need to be 18 to get a credit card.

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Re: Grand Theft Auto IV video game allows killing of Jews (Video)
« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2008, 10:02:52 PM »
I used to play GTA a bit in 2000.  You would get points for running over all
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And of course part of the game was running from the police, stealing police cars, killing policeman.  If you don't want to follow the mission
It was very cartoony..

there was no mission to kill them though!

I saw a newer version of GTA and was disgusted, I saw the guy you control, go to a beach and beat up a hot woman. Obviously the person controlling it did it, but it's very much a designed part of the game.

At least he is not killing him -because- he is a jew.. But because he is a diamond dealer or a bit of a gangster himself. The idea may have been inspired by the film Snatch.  

I do remember the original. Even though the original had slightly poor taste, it was cartoony and hadn't evolved to the evil game that it is now.
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Re: Grand Theft Auto IV video game allows killing of Jews (Video)
« Reply #28 on: September 08, 2008, 12:52:11 PM »
This is evil!  >:(
No it is not. It is only a game which you do not have to play if it is not your cup of tea.
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Re: Grand Theft Auto IV video game allows killing of Jews (Video)
« Reply #29 on: September 08, 2008, 02:31:25 PM »
Why are you even wasting your time on this drek? Video games are not good for a person. They disrupt the soul and lead to increased violence. I know because I grew up when video games were peaceful. And now there is the ability to kill everyone in realistic graphics. This is not progress. This is absolute drek of the worst kind. Video pornography...

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Re: Grand Theft Auto IV video game allows killing of Jews (Video)
« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2008, 02:33:02 PM »
Why are you even wasting your time on this drek? Video games are not good for a person. They disrupt the soul and lead to increased violence. I know because I grew up when video games were peaceful. And now there is the ability to kill everyone in realistic graphics. This is not progress. This is absolute drek of the worst kind. Video pornography...

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I own that Game and it has not made me more Violent

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Re: Grand Theft Auto IV video game allows killing of Jews (Video)
« Reply #31 on: September 08, 2008, 02:34:04 PM »
Why are you even wasting your time on this drek? Video games are not good for a person. They disrupt the soul and lead to increased violence. I know because I grew up when video games were peaceful. And now there is the ability to kill everyone in realistic graphics. This is not progress. This is absolute drek of the worst kind. Video pornography...

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I own that Game and it has not made me more Violent

Just wait....

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Re: Grand Theft Auto IV video game allows killing of Jews (Video)
« Reply #32 on: September 08, 2008, 02:34:59 PM »
Why are you even wasting your time on this drek? Video games are not good for a person. They disrupt the soul and lead to increased violence. I know because I grew up when video games were peaceful. And now there is the ability to kill everyone in realistic graphics. This is not progress. This is absolute drek of the worst kind. Video pornography...

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I own that Game and it has not made me more Violent

Just wait....

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What  do you mean just wait? I also play war games like WW2 games does that mean I want war?

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Re: Grand Theft Auto IV video game allows killing of Jews (Video)
« Reply #33 on: September 08, 2008, 02:39:09 PM »
Why are you even wasting your time on this drek? Video games are not good for a person. They disrupt the soul and lead to increased violence. I know because I grew up when video games were peaceful. And now there is the ability to kill everyone in realistic graphics. This is not progress. This is absolute drek of the worst kind. Video pornography...

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I own that Game and it has not made me more Violent

Just wait....

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What  do you mean just wait? I also play war games like WW2 games does that mean I want war?

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Everything we see, smell, hear, and do has an effect on us. Our senses are filled with death, dying, murder, and crime. Do you really think you are above being affected by the things you see and do? This is why Jews have Mitzvahs, which is a thing we do, which has spiritual repercussions. I dont want to argue about the actual repercussions which may happen because you play these games. But you should think about what you accept into your mind. Last Shabbat we learned to appoint guards at the gates of the city. This means that we should be guards of our own gates, our eyes, ears, and mouth. What we see, think, and do are in our control. When you release yourself to careless playing of games where you are a criminal, you are allowing criminal thoughts to enter your brain. The long term effects of these thoughts are not quite understood now. I will not play these crappy games because the person who publishes it wants to implant these subliminal messages into my brain. I will not allow them to desecrate my mind.

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Re: Grand Theft Auto IV video game allows killing of Jews (Video)
« Reply #34 on: September 08, 2008, 02:40:53 PM »
The game all together is in poor taste.
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Re: Grand Theft Auto IV video game allows killing of Jews (Video)
« Reply #35 on: September 08, 2008, 03:53:41 PM »
I don't know why someone bumped this thread as it's a few months old, anyways I grew up with violent video games and i've always been a peaceful person.

I grew up with Wolfenstein 3D (on the PC), Mortal Kombat, Doom, played Soldier Of Fortune, Half-Life, Postal, Quake, Duke Nukem, and plenty of other violent games as a kid and it never had an affect on me. I do have quite a high tolerance for violence but I certainly make logical decisions and know that killing/murder is wrong and that the only form of violence should be in self defense to protect your life or another persons.
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Re: Grand Theft Auto IV video game allows killing of Jews (Video)
« Reply #36 on: September 08, 2008, 03:54:29 PM »
I don't know why someone bumped this thread as it's a few months old, anyways I grew up with violent video games and i've always been a peaceful person.

I grew up with Wolfenstein 3D (on the PC), Mortal Kombat, Doom, played Soldier Of Fortune, Half-Life, Postal, Quake, Duke Nukem, and plenty of other violent games as a kid and it never had an affect on me. I do have quite a high tolerance for violence but I certainly make logical decisions and know that killing/murder is wrong and that the only form of violence should be in self defense to protect your life or another persons.

Doom was a great game

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« Reply #37 on: September 08, 2008, 03:54:59 PM »
I don't know why someone bumped this thread as it's a few months old, anyways I grew up with violent video games and i've always been a peaceful person.

I grew up with Wolfenstein 3D (on the PC), Mortal Kombat, Doom, played Soldier Of Fortune, Half-Life, Postal, Quake, Duke Nukem, and plenty of other violent games as a kid and it never had an affect on me. I do have quite a high tolerance for violence but I certainly make logical decisions and know that killing/murder is wrong and that the only form of violence should be in self defense to protect your life or another persons.

Doom was a great game

It was actually my Grandpa (who was Jewish) that introduced me to Doom believe it or not, he had weird taste but he was big into collecting pin ball machines, slot machines and video games.

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Re: Grand Theft Auto IV video game allows killing of Jews (Video)
« Reply #38 on: September 08, 2008, 03:56:07 PM »
I don't know why someone bumped this thread as it's a few months old, anyways I grew up with violent video games and i've always been a peaceful person.

I grew up with Wolfenstein 3D (on the PC), Mortal Kombat, Doom, played Soldier Of Fortune, Half-Life, Postal, Quake, Duke Nukem, and plenty of other violent games as a kid and it never had an affect on me. I do have quite a high tolerance for violence but I certainly make logical decisions and know that killing/murder is wrong and that the only form of violence should be in self defense to protect your life or another persons.

Doom was a great game

It was actually my Grandpa (who was Jewish) that introduced me to Doom believe it or not, he had weird taste but he was big into collecting pin ball machines, slot machines and video games.

You got a cool Grandfather O0

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Re: Grand Theft Auto IV video game allows killing of Jews (Video)
« Reply #39 on: September 08, 2008, 03:57:40 PM »
I don't know why someone bumped this thread as it's a few months old, anyways I grew up with violent video games and i've always been a peaceful person.

I grew up with Wolfenstein 3D (on the PC), Mortal Kombat, Doom, played Soldier Of Fortune, Half-Life, Postal, Quake, Duke Nukem, and plenty of other violent games as a kid and it never had an affect on me. I do have quite a high tolerance for violence but I certainly make logical decisions and know that killing/murder is wrong and that the only form of violence should be in self defense to protect your life or another persons.

Doom was a great game

It was actually my Grandpa (who was Jewish) that introduced me to Doom believe it or not, he had weird taste but he was big into collecting pin ball machines, slot machines and video games.

You got a cool Grandfather O0

He's passed away now, but you could say he was definitely a very strange Jew, we was very wealthy and a successful business man, and he was a bit of a redneck too, had a farm he went to every year and preferred to stay isolated from other people. My uncles were the same, they all live out in the stick in isolated communities where houses are very spread out.

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Re: Grand Theft Auto IV video game allows killing of Jews (Video)
« Reply #40 on: September 08, 2008, 03:58:32 PM »
I don't know why someone bumped this thread as it's a few months old, anyways I grew up with violent video games and i've always been a peaceful person.

I grew up with Wolfenstein 3D (on the PC), Mortal Kombat, Doom, played Soldier Of Fortune, Half-Life, Postal, Quake, Duke Nukem, and plenty of other violent games as a kid and it never had an affect on me. I do have quite a high tolerance for violence but I certainly make logical decisions and know that killing/murder is wrong and that the only form of violence should be in self defense to protect your life or another persons.

Doom was a great game

It was actually my Grandpa (who was Jewish) that introduced me to Doom believe it or not, he had weird taste but he was big into collecting pin ball machines, slot machines and video games.

Yes,

And I play Quake III and Doom... I am not saying it makes you a violent person. I am simply saying that everything we do affects who we are as a person. The more sick and perverted games we play, the more sick and perverted we may become. Nobody is responsible for what you do beside yourself. So many people are influenced by the media that it becomes a constant drone of "I only did what I saw on TV, or in the video games!"... It is not a 1 to 1 corellation, but over time peoples sensibilities are altered by the mass media. Heck, look at how acceptable homosexual behavior is... Dont you think it is because the media keeps saying it is OK?

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Re: Grand Theft Auto IV video game allows killing of Jews (Video)
« Reply #41 on: September 08, 2008, 04:06:12 PM »
I don't know why someone bumped this thread as it's a few months old, anyways I grew up with violent video games and i've always been a peaceful person.

I grew up with Wolfenstein 3D (on the PC), Mortal Kombat, Doom, played Soldier Of Fortune, Half-Life, Postal, Quake, Duke Nukem, and plenty of other violent games as a kid and it never had an affect on me. I do have quite a high tolerance for violence but I certainly make logical decisions and know that killing/murder is wrong and that the only form of violence should be in self defense to protect your life or another persons.

Doom was a great game

It was actually my Grandpa (who was Jewish) that introduced me to Doom believe it or not, he had weird taste but he was big into collecting pin ball machines, slot machines and video games.

Yes,

And I play Quake III and Doom... I am not saying it makes you a violent person. I am simply saying that everything we do affects who we are as a person. The more sick and perverted games we play, the more sick and perverted we may become. Nobody is responsible for what you do beside yourself. So many people are influenced by the media that it becomes a constant drone of "I only did what I saw on TV, or in the video games!"... It is not a 1 to 1 corellation, but over time peoples sensibilities are altered by the mass media. Heck, look at how acceptable homosexual behavior is... Dont you think it is because the media keeps saying it is OK?

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I think violence and sexual behavior are very different subjects in America. While violence seems to be the acceptable norm in the majority of society here in this country, sex is not. I remember my mother had a conversation saying "I'd rather my sons see a womens natural body than someone getting their brains blown out", it was actually the opposite for us although in a decent righteous society, I don't think any would really be acceptable in any form except in the private of ones own home.

In Europe however, it appears that it's quite the opposite.

I'm not opposed to violence per say within video games or movies as I think that's a individuals choice on how they perceive violence, regulation of content for "family values" is equivalent to a nanny state, it reminds me of how democrats want to regulate and tax everything. Unfortunately both parties are now responsible for that.

I think it is up to the parents to decide what their kids watch or play and not the governments.

I fail to see why video games get such a horrible rep compared to movies, it doesn't help that an insane lawyer (Jack Thompson) has been on a crusade to ban such video games with lack of evidence that video games are the cause of violence such as Columbine and other various school shootings (I think that's more of a mental illness issue than video games and guns).

Some may say that video games put you in the role of the person behind the gun and is a "murder simulator" but I think it's no different than any other form of entertainment, some video games may even have consequences for certain activies, for example in the Call Of Duty series, you play as the allies in World War II and you have missions to fight against the Nazis (nearly perfectly recreated to the real battles), while it's possible to shoot your teammates, the game ends and you are forced to restart, and you are not able to play as the Axis/Nazis.

I can understand where your coming from with a game like Grand Theft Auto and Homosexuality that because you are given those options in the game, it may promote it, but I think that the majority of these people saying "Grand Theft Auto made me do it" are using it as a safety net and hopes of a plea bargain more than anything, I doubt if the game existed that these type of crimes would be any less than they are. It's kind of like the cases we hear where a women murders her kids and claims God told her to do it so she can get a plea bargain.

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Re: Grand Theft Auto IV video game allows killing of Jews (Video)
« Reply #42 on: September 08, 2008, 04:33:00 PM »
Shalom,

While it is true that parents are ultimately responsible for the deeds of their children, our own Mrs Sarah Palin is a prime example of the limitations of this. Society IS responsible for the youth. This is a TORAH concept. Our Society should be designed as a safe place for the children to grow. We shouldnt have to protect them from bad things. A Torah society would not allow any of this drek to be pedaled to the youth. Because we are so lost in the haze of our own sin it is hard to know what is the correct course at this time.

I grew up with all the drek and I look at the reasons which I deviated from the path which was laid out for me. I had to go off the path, a long far and hard way, before I did my teshuva. Do I blame society? No, I blame myself. But if it were not for the society telling me that taking drugs and losing myself was cool, I dont know if I would have gone that route. Believe me, my life was laid out for me, from growing up, to going to college, etc. But I rebelled against my parents. I dont know if it is because of the society, but I know it didn't help.

I was born in the 60s and somehow the 60s became the Age of Enlightenment. Now I cant turn on TV without seeing the media glorifying the drug-taking, free-sex of the 60s. I am sick of it and turn it off because the 60s are not all it is cracked up to be.

I cant wait till we return to the ways of righteousness and faith in Hashem. May it come soon!

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Re: Grand Theft Auto IV video game allows killing of Jews (Video)
« Reply #43 on: September 08, 2008, 04:34:54 PM »
However, it is a free country (for now) and the game should NOT be banned!
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Re: Grand Theft Auto IV video game allows killing of Jews (Video)
« Reply #44 on: September 08, 2008, 04:37:05 PM »
However, it is a free country (for now) and the game should NOT be banned!

I believe it is a sad fact that in our system freedom means freedom to do anything we want. When we study Freedom during Passover we learn that Freedom comes with responsibilities.

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Re: Grand Theft Auto IV video game allows killing of Jews (Video)
« Reply #45 on: September 09, 2008, 08:45:03 AM »
However, it is a free country (for now) and the game should NOT be banned!

I believe it is a sad fact that in our system freedom means freedom to do anything we want. When we study Freedom during Passover we learn that Freedom comes with responsibilities.

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Isn't that what this country was founded on? I don't know about you but I wouldn't want to live in a theocracy. I think freedom of choice is what encourages people to learn, but when they are forced, then that is when they rebel against the system.

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Re: Grand Theft Auto IV video game allows killing of Jews (Video)
« Reply #46 on: September 09, 2008, 08:47:50 AM »
Shalom,

While it is true that parents are ultimately responsible for the deeds of their children, our own Mrs Sarah Palin is a prime example of the limitations of this. Society IS responsible for the youth. This is a TORAH concept. Our Society should be designed as a safe place for the children to grow. We shouldnt have to protect them from bad things. A Torah society would not allow any of this drek to be pedaled to the youth. Because we are so lost in the haze of our own sin it is hard to know what is the correct course at this time.

I grew up with all the drek and I look at the reasons which I deviated from the path which was laid out for me. I had to go off the path, a long far and hard way, before I did my teshuva. Do I blame society? No, I blame myself. But if it were not for the society telling me that taking drugs and losing myself was cool, I dont know if I would have gone that route. Believe me, my life was laid out for me, from growing up, to going to college, etc. But I rebelled against my parents. I dont know if it is because of the society, but I know it didn't help.

I was born in the 60s and somehow the 60s became the Age of Enlightenment. Now I cant turn on TV without seeing the media glorifying the drug-taking, free-sex of the 60s. I am sick of it and turn it off because the 60s are not all it is cracked up to be.

I cant wait till we return to the ways of righteousness and faith in Hashem. May it come soon!

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I really don't watch any tv, While I do have a video tuner card which I watch Discovery specials time to time and I still watch UFC events, that's all I watch. The rest I don't even bother with, but I am aware of how screwed up stuff that is broadcasted on tv is.

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Re: Grand Theft Auto IV video game allows killing of Jews (Video)
« Reply #47 on: September 09, 2008, 10:47:05 AM »
The video game Grand Theft Auto IV for the Xbox 360 and the Playstation 3 is a sandbox type of video game that allows you to pretty much do anything you want. I purchased the video game for the XBOX 360 in which you play as a character Niko Belic who is of Serbian background and moves to America for the "American dream", he quickly gets involved in a life of crime and is able to take missions from different people for money. The game is based in Liberty city which has been redesigned from previous interpretations to look much more similar to New York City. Many of the areas of the game are 100 percent replicas of real areas of New York including the statue of liberty.

The game alone is impressive from a graphical viewpoint and has already made a lot of noise and controversy as lawyers like Jack Thompson who has been trying to get the game banned and MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving) who are protesting the ability to be able to get drunk in the game and be allowed to operate a vehicle which gives you a blurry view simulating the ability of being intoxicated.

The game is one of the hottest selling out there in history making over 400 million dollars it's first day on sale alone, game production cost 100 million (more than many Hollywood movies)

While driving around in the game, I noticed Hasidic Jewish neighborhoods with men walking with all black outfits and black hats with a beard and hat and the peyot. I also noticed others wearing a Yarmulke sitting on benches and you have the ability to kill them or run them over with cars just like you have the ability to kill anyone (gang members, police, hookers, etc.)

There is even a mission in the game called "Late Checkout" which you work for a Italian man and are ordered to kill a Hasidic Jew involved in the diamond trade (a bit stereotypical no?)

The mission is available online on video to see for yourself.

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/grand-theft-auto-4-late-checkout-mission/744426168

I've played all Grand Theft Auto games in the past, and i'm curious if this was deliberate for controversy or not. Grand Theft Auto III was the first of it's kind to generate a large amount of controversy due to the graphical realism and upgrade in graphics with the ability to kill police officers and hookers which led to many parents refusing to allow their children to play the game. GTA Vice City had much controversy because there was a part where you had to kill Haitians and one of the lines was "kill those Haitian bastards."

Anyways, I find it rather bizzare why Jews in specific were added in the game to begin with? There are certainly other ethnic groups that live in New York City and there are muslims yet you don't see them in the game anywhere. What is your opinion about this? Personally it's left somewhat of a bad taste in my mouth. I know Take-2 and Rockstar games have never been politically correct to begin with, but it leaves me to wonder if you had the option to run over Muslims or kill them in the game how much outcry there would be? Comments?

I think you make a lot of valid points.  First off these games are very off color.  It seems to me they are made to offend everyone and that is why these games sell so well.  They are like the forbidden fruit.  From the nature of these games it wouldn't suprise me if in future games they did have missions where you kill Muslims.  Of course like the Haitians the Muslims will be outraged and demand the game banned, but in my opinion, again this is why people will want to "check it out", making this game industry millions.

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Re: Grand Theft Auto IV video game allows killing of Jews (Video)
« Reply #48 on: September 09, 2008, 11:09:31 AM »
The video game Grand Theft Auto IV for the Xbox 360 and the Playstation 3 is a sandbox type of video game that allows you to pretty much do anything you want. I purchased the video game for the XBOX 360 in which you play as a character Niko Belic who is of Serbian background and moves to America for the "American dream", he quickly gets involved in a life of crime and is able to take missions from different people for money. The game is based in Liberty city which has been redesigned from previous interpretations to look much more similar to New York City. Many of the areas of the game are 100 percent replicas of real areas of New York including the statue of liberty.

The game alone is impressive from a graphical viewpoint and has already made a lot of noise and controversy as lawyers like Jack Thompson who has been trying to get the game banned and MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving) who are protesting the ability to be able to get drunk in the game and be allowed to operate a vehicle which gives you a blurry view simulating the ability of being intoxicated.

The game is one of the hottest selling out there in history making over 400 million dollars it's first day on sale alone, game production cost 100 million (more than many Hollywood movies)

While driving around in the game, I noticed Hasidic Jewish neighborhoods with men walking with all black outfits and black hats with a beard and hat and the peyot. I also noticed others wearing a Yarmulke sitting on benches and you have the ability to kill them or run them over with cars just like you have the ability to kill anyone (gang members, police, hookers, etc.)

There is even a mission in the game called "Late Checkout" which you work for a Italian man and are ordered to kill a Hasidic Jew involved in the diamond trade (a bit stereotypical no?)

The mission is available online on video to see for yourself.

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/grand-theft-auto-4-late-checkout-mission/744426168

I've played all Grand Theft Auto games in the past, and i'm curious if this was deliberate for controversy or not. Grand Theft Auto III was the first of it's kind to generate a large amount of controversy due to the graphical realism and upgrade in graphics with the ability to kill police officers and hookers which led to many parents refusing to allow their children to play the game. GTA Vice City had much controversy because there was a part where you had to kill Haitians and one of the lines was "kill those Haitian bastards."

Anyways, I find it rather bizzare why Jews in specific were added in the game to begin with? There are certainly other ethnic groups that live in New York City and there are muslims yet you don't see them in the game anywhere. What is your opinion about this? Personally it's left somewhat of a bad taste in my mouth. I know Take-2 and Rockstar games have never been politically correct to begin with, but it leaves me to wonder if you had the option to run over Muslims or kill them in the game how much outcry there would be? Comments?

I think you make a lot of valid points.  First off these games are very off color.  It seems to me they are made to offend everyone and that is why these games sell so well.  They are like the forbidden fruit.  From the nature of these games it wouldn't suprise me if in future games they did have missions where you kill Muslims.  Of course like the Haitians the Muslims will be outraged and demand the game banned, but in my opinion, again this is why people will want to "check it out", making this game industry millions.

That's why I love Call Of Duty 4  ;D

It is told from the perspectives of a United States Marine and British SAS operative, and is set in multiple locations, including the Middle East, Azerbaijan, Russia, and Prypiat, Ukraine.

You get to kill Russian nationalists and Muslims. 

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Re: Grand Theft Auto IV video game allows killing of Jews (Video)
« Reply #49 on: September 09, 2008, 11:24:55 AM »
Shalom,

While it is true that parents are ultimately responsible for the deeds of their children, our own Mrs Sarah Palin is a prime example of the limitations of this. Society IS responsible for the youth. This is a TORAH concept. Our Society should be designed as a safe place for the children to grow. We shouldnt have to protect them from bad things. A Torah society would not allow any of this drek to be pedaled to the youth. Because we are so lost in the haze of our own sin it is hard to know what is the correct course at this time.

I grew up with all the drek and I look at the reasons which I deviated from the path which was laid out for me. I had to go off the path, a long far and hard way, before I did my teshuva. Do I blame society? No, I blame myself. But if it were not for the society telling me that taking drugs and losing myself was cool, I dont know if I would have gone that route. Believe me, my life was laid out for me, from growing up, to going to college, etc. But I rebelled against my parents. I dont know if it is because of the society, but I know it didn't help.

I was born in the 60s and somehow the 60s became the Age of Enlightenment. Now I cant turn on TV without seeing the media glorifying the drug-taking, free-sex of the 60s. I am sick of it and turn it off because the 60s are not all it is cracked up to be.

I cant wait till we return to the ways of righteousness and faith in Hashem. May it come soon!

muman613


  Muman,

    You are very right on all accounts.  People do NEED to know that with freedoms come responsibility, which people dont care about anymore at all.  Yes, the new VP is a prime example.  Everything is 'ok' now, I am lost here, like in space, or a time machine, I dont really 'get' any of this.  Recently I have stood for this very thing, and got landblasted and sabotaged so terribly, I just sunk into a couple day depression, because the attack came from people that I 'thought' were in the right & "FRIENDS" evident now, they are not. 
  Things were just not accepted when we were kids, and they shouldnt be now, we were not confined, nor 'un-free' we were actually MORE free than now.  Now if you talk about RIGHTEOUS things, you will have hell to pay.  But if you are for 'wrong' everything is good, and you are swell.  If you stand for the right, they call you 'self-righteous' when you know you are really not that way. I am lately mixed up and very confused over all of this, since everything we have heard taught by David & Chaim, was always morally strong and correct, it is almost as if everything they said, Gone with the wind. I dont know about everyone else, but I CANNOT just 'give in' to all of this, it is flat out against EVERYTHING I believe.

  BTW: These videos are ABOMINABLE, I read all about this a few mos back.
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