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✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #25 on:** April 07, 2009, 02:29:53 AM »

Hindu Nationalists ruled India from 1998 to 2004, tell me one act of violence which has happened against Christians in India. Yes acts against Minorities have been reported on internet and media, but dont fall for it. the reported minorities are "muslims" not christians. Ask yourself why have such attacks happened only in 2008? The reason is political and socio-religious. Almost all Christian missionary bodies here work in tribal areas. Personally i dont give a damn if they covert those tribals. Cause it is only going to harm CHristianity, just like how Christianity was tried over Blacks. And we know the results. I dont want to sound racist or anything.

Christian missonaries should divert their energies towards europe where Christianity is soon failing. According to recent reports 100000 Britons are going to apply for debaptisation.

I agree people are free to make their choice. But why do missionaries have to go to tribal areas and tell them that their G-d's are false?. It is not a legitimate way for preaching religion to others.

Almost all my Christian friends live in a way of Hindu way of life. They talk,were clothes like Hindus, follow Hindu certain Hindu customs and also celebrate Hindu festivals. And i see no difference in myself and them.

Rubystars · « **Reply #26 on:** April 07, 2009, 09:36:33 AM »

Christians who consider G-d as one more deity to the pantheon and still thinks it's ok to celebrate Hindu festivals are seriously in need of some guidance. The Bible speaks against that kind of thing. They need to give that stuff up if they're going to seriously follow Christianity. Christians that tell the "tribals" that their gods are false do so because that's what Christianity teaches. In fact if a deity has real power and it's telling someone to follow it for its own sake then it's considered to be more of a demon. To be honest creatures like Kali do look a lot more like demons than deities anyway.

I want to believe that you don't intend anything evil for the Christians in India but I just don't feel like I can trust you. How do you explain the videos of people on documentaries saying that Hindus destroyed their crops, killed and raped their family members, and the videos of smashed churches?

✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #27 on:** April 07, 2009, 10:08:24 AM »

It is ok if you tell hindus that they are worshipping false Gods (because Hindus are very tolerant,the fact which i'm proud of) until it leads to something terrible and a communal situation prevails. Let me tell you by example what actually happens.

100 Hindu tribals listen and then start believing about Christianity when a Missionary preaches them. They are also told that their temples and idols are to be destroyed first else it amounts to Sin. So these 100 Convert tribals now go and destroy a local Hindu Temple. Rest of the nearby 2000 Hindu's living in nearby areas get offended due to their Temple being broken down. What follows is destruction of Church's in return. Now this has nothing to do with persecution of any religion. It is about respecting each other sentiments, we know where the problem lies.

Christians should learn from the Jews about living in harmony and not missionising. I am sure that amongst 1 billion Hindus, not many people would know about Abraham, Moses but when they arrived 2000 years back, we gave them a land to practice their faith based on the only condition of mutual respect and harmony. That is in essence Hinduism-Judaism the faith which teaches tolerance and non violence to the world. I am glad that reliigous leaders from the ancient land of Israel came and acknowledged our contributions.

Rubystars · « **Reply #28 on:** April 07, 2009, 11:00:15 AM »

The right thing to do would be to destroy their own idols if they have them. I think going and destroying a public building like that would be illegal and Christian teaching does say to respect those in authority. I think somewhere along the line there has got to be a misunderstanding taking place. If someone becomes a Christian they should stop going to the Hindu temple and destroy their own personal idols. They shouldn't destroy the temple unless the whole community becomes Christian though because the temple won't be around anymore anyway if people decide not to go there.

The violence against Christians may have escalated in 2008 and that's why it started getting a lot of media coverage. I am hoping that as more stories come out that the picture will be more clear.

I really want to agree with Chaim about the Hindu nationalists. It's just really difficult for me to do so when I hear about things like that.

I think one of the biggest problems in India has to be the lack of education of many of the poor citizens there. I mean I read some of them use cow dung as a disinfectant, or as a cleanser. Any basic scientific knowledge would tell them that cow dung is potentially full of very harmful or deadly bacteria like e coli, but they don't have the education to know that. They really believe that it has cleansing properties.

I also ran across this article today
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/article5707554.ece

It says that the RSS is going to be promoting a cow urine based soft drink. I want to be fair. Is this true?

✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #29 on:** April 07, 2009, 12:38:09 PM »

They need education, not switching faith. India has become economic super power and produced intelligent and hard working individuals not my adhering to any faith(including Hinduism,Christianity,Islam).Drinking of Cow urine by some Hindus saying it has purifying properties is same as a Father of a Church sprinkling water on his subjects and telling them they are now purified. Does that mean Church Father is uneducated? There is a fine line between faith and science.Lets not mix each other.

about the news piece, I am in touch with RSS activists, but even they dont know about it, so i cant comment.

also why would it escalate in 2008? why did it not escalate in 2000? If Hindus really wanted to persecute Christians why did it take them more than 80 years to do it?

Rubystars · « **Reply #30 on:** April 07, 2009, 12:43:03 PM »

Sprinkling water and drinking urine are not the same. It's definitely not the same as using dung for a disinefectant.

Anyway I don't know why the violence seems to have sparked suddenly but I suppose we'll have to see what happens in the future between Hindus and Christians in India.

Thanks for taking the time to answer all my questions.

✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #31 on:** April 07, 2009, 12:54:38 PM »

No, a person believing in his own superstitions cannot tell others not to believe in their superstitions. It is like a Astrologist telling a Black Magic Occultist that he/she cannot predict the future through magic ball.

Rubystars you are welcome any time. This is the difference between us and the quranimals. We can freely talk on each others subjects without any problem,they cant.

ProudAndZionist · « **Reply #32 on:** April 07, 2009, 01:01:22 PM »

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✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #33 on:** April 07, 2009, 01:02:10 PM »

I dont mind if Rubystars would like to share her messenger id,i have quite a few jtf'rs on my list.

Rubystars · « **Reply #34 on:** April 07, 2009, 01:26:12 PM »

Water, while not always the purest thing, is at least mostly clean. Dung and urine are unclean and full of nasty germs. Despite the myths about it urine is not sterile, and dung definitely carries harmful bacteria like ecoli and campylobacter and listeria.

I personally don't believe in the water sprinkling because I'm not Catholic, but even so I can see a huge difference there.

✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #35 on:** April 07, 2009, 01:32:10 PM »

Quote from: Rubystars on April 07, 2009, 01:26:12 PM

Water, while not always the purest thing, is at least mostly clean. Dung and urine are unclean and full of nasty germs. Despite the myths about it urine is not sterile, and dung definitely carries harmful bacteria like ecoli and campylobacter and listeria.

I personally don't believe in the water sprinkling because I'm not Catholic, but even so I can see a huge difference there.

dry dung is burnt by hindu tribals to drive away flies and mosquitoes, it is more eco-friendly than burning wood.cow urine i have seen some people getting the results, but I as a Hindu has been taught to respect other people's belief, hence i do not object to anything. To each,his own.

Xoce · « **Reply #36 on:** April 08, 2009, 01:07:41 PM »

Can you recommend a HAPPY film which Aishwarya stars in? I do not like to be sad watching movies.
Thank you.

✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #37 on:** April 08, 2009, 02:40:00 PM »

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the pink panther 2
aur pyaar ho gaya
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kuch na kaho

Zelhar · « **Reply #38 on:** April 19, 2009, 08:09:28 AM »

Shalom Hinduzionist. What can you tell us about the former president of India, Abdul Kalam? He is a muslim Tamil, yet I think he was backed by the BJP. Isn't he an oddity ?

✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #39 on:** April 19, 2009, 08:41:21 AM »

He is sort of an apostate muslim. Abdul Kalam had many times stated that he took inpiration from the hindu holy book of Gita. He remains a vegetarain also.. And he is not known to have spoken for Muslims or Islam. For this very reason Indian Muslims are not very fond of him. BJP backed him for India to get its Nuclear Power.

Geert Akbar · « **Reply #40 on:** May 13, 2009, 12:34:23 PM »

How popular is the Hindu Nationalist Party? Is the party growing as rapid as Geert Wilders' Party for Freedom in the Netherlands? As you may or may not know, Wilders started this party in 2006 and it received 9 seats, now polls conducted by political analysts are expecting the party to receive at least 32 seats in this years elections. Thus making Geert Wilders the new Dutch Prime Minister (yeah baby!). As we hope that Hindu Nationalism will be embraced by the majority of India, does it seem like something that will happen soon, or does it seem distant?

✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #41 on:** May 13, 2009, 01:30:11 PM »

Hindu Nationalist Party like BJP have always been the second largest opposition party to the socialist governments, since the last 20 years. I can fairly say that 40% of Indians support this form of government. rest 45 support the socialists and 15% communists. India has upto 30 states. about 13 states are ruled by the Nationalist party. The socialists in India thrive on poverty stricken people's vote and the votes of muslims. Since India still has lot of people in the poverty line, the socialists are enjoying their time. But the more the economic progress India's makes the more the chances of the Nationalists hanging onto power in India. BJP has got a large support base from NRI's (Non-Residential Indians). Also the BJP enjoys more popularity in India, than Greet Wilders party in his country. Really hope that Wilders Party too makes it big!

In 4 days our election results will be out, and dont be surprised if BJP comes to power.

sonja_yu · « **Reply #42 on:** May 31, 2009, 05:53:03 PM »

How is it going with your party?
Are you getting foreign support already (apart from JTF)?

✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #43 on:** June 01, 2009, 02:55:01 PM »

jtf soon, loyalist party has agreed.

ProudAndZionist · « **Reply #44 on:** June 02, 2009, 01:11:26 PM »

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IsraeliGovtAreKapos · « **Reply #45 on:** June 24, 2009, 08:31:48 AM »

בס"ד
How's ur girlfiend? lmao

Yochai · « **Reply #46 on:** June 24, 2009, 01:25:11 PM »

Do you have any connections to Canada?

We have many Hindu Nationalists here, and I have made connections with some at my university.

They too knew about Meir Kahane. Is he well-known among Hindu Nationalists, or only among North American ones?

✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #47 on:** June 24, 2009, 02:23:39 PM »

Quote from: Ron Ben Michael on June 24, 2009, 08:31:48 AM

בס"ד
How's ur girlfiend? lmao

shalom Ron. she is ok. but we are not right there, where it was supposed to be.

✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #48 on:** June 24, 2009, 02:30:04 PM »

Quote from: Yochai on June 24, 2009, 01:25:11 PM

Do you have any connections to Canada?

We have many Hindu Nationalists here, and I have made connections with some at my university.

They too knew about Meir Kahane. Is he well-known among Hindu Nationalists, or only among North American ones?

I have relatives in Canada, they are not students though.

Mostly North America based Hindu Nationalists know about Kahane. Not much among Hindu Nationalists in India. Here we actually used to feel that every Jew is a Kahanist. But when i joined JTF, i found that there are many self hating liberal jews in Israel now.

IsraeliGovtAreKapos · « **Reply #49 on:** June 24, 2009, 07:13:59 PM »

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