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L.A. is going to boycott Arizona
« on: May 12, 2010, 08:42:42 PM »
Not surprised here. More L.A Liberal crap.

Link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37113818/ns/us_news-life

Largest city in U.S. to protest tough immigration law

LOS ANGELES - Los Angeles on Wednesday became the largest city yet to boycott Arizona over its tough new law targeting illegal immigration in a move that likely will affect some $8 million in contracts with the state.

The City Council voted 13-1 to bar Los Angeles from conducting business with Arizona unless the law is repealed. The vote followed an emotional council discussion during which many members noted that their ancestors were U.S. immigrants.

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa already has said he would approve the boycott.

“Los Angeles the second-largest city in this country, an immigrant city, an international city. It needs to have its voice heard,’’ Councilman Ed Reyes said, the Los Angeles Times reported. “As an American, I cannot go to Arizona today without a passport. If I come across an officer who’s having a bad day and feels that the picture on my ID is not me, I can be … deported, no questions asked. That is not American.’’

No new contracts
The resolution is expected to be signed by Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa. It bars the nation's second-largest city from conducting business or reaching new contracts with Arizona businesses unless the immigration law is repealed, and also prohibits most city business trips to the state.

Los Angeles has investments and contracts in Arizona worth as much as $58 million, much of which involve airport, port and energy service that can't lawfully be affected by the boycott. That leaves about $7.7 million in city contracts that could possibly be affected, said Councilwoman Janice Hahn, who co-authored the resolution.

Some of those contracts include helicopter services, Taser guns, waste management, engineering and surveillance equipment.

"Maybe some of those jobs and businesses could come back to L.A. and California," Hahn said.

The resolution claims that Arizona's new law encourages racial profiling and is unconstitutional. The law, set to take effect July 29, requires police enforcing another law to question a person about his or her immigration status if there is "reasonable suspicion" that the person is in the United States illegally and makes it a state crime to be in the country illegally.

Several lawsuits seeking to block its implementation are pending in federal court.

Some polls have shown strong popular support for the Arizona law, and critics are concerned that other states may follow up with their own versions.

Several cities have passed resolutions or urged boycotts to protest the law, including California cities such as Oakland and San Diego. A nonbinding resolution approved Tuesday by San Francisco city supervisors urges a boycott of Arizona-based businesses and asks sports leagues not to hold championship games or tournaments there.

'Pure rhetoric'
Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer said the boycotts are unfortunate and misguided, primarily because the law mirrors a federal requirement that legal immigrants carry immigration papers.

"It's already the law in the United States, and I have a responsibility to stand up and protect the people of Arizona and we will do that," Brewer said Tuesday.

Charges that the law will lead to racial profiling are "just pure rhetoric," Brewer said.

"I find it really interesting that we have people out there that are attempting a boycott in favor of illegal actions in Arizona. That to me is just unbelievable."

Of the resolution in Los Angeles, Hahn said: "We want to stand back and say that we're against it. We're hoping that Arizona will be the last state to do this instead of just the first state to do it."

Gerry Miller, Los Angeles' chief legislative analyst, issued a report before the vote recommending the council suspend travel, cut contracts and refrain from making any new ones with Arizona-based firms. He said the city's airport, port and utility companies are run by semiautonomous city agencies and the council cannot compel them to follow the boycott.

The council asked the city's lawyers to report back in a week on which contracts could be terminated without incurring lawsuits.

Hahn also called for a review of the city's investments and divestiture of any pension funds and bonds proceeds that could be invested in Arizona.

Councilwoman Jan Perry said the city should try to lure any organization considering holding a convention in Arizona to Los Angeles, while Councilman Richard Alarcon suggested offering Arizona businesses incentives to relocate to Los Angeles.


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No one who attended the council meeting expressed opposition to the boycott resolution. Councilman Greig Smith, the lone dissenter, could not immediately be reached for comment.

Los Angeles staged a similar economic boycott against South Africa during apartheid and against Colorado after voters in 1992 passed a state law repealing local ordinances that banned discrimination against homosexuals

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Re: L.A. is going to boycott Arizona
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2010, 11:00:00 PM »
I am hoping that California soon passes similar legislation to that which they passed in Arizona.

As much as I love my Mexican neighbors here... There are about 3 families living in the house next door. I am also hoping that they send the illegals back where they belong. And this is not racist in the least. The whole problem with the issue is that the conservatives allow the liberals to paint us as if we don't like immigrants. I love immigrants and work with some of the best immigrants in the whole darn world, from all over this great planet Earth... But they are here legally, and I think that it is an insult to my family which legally immigrated to America in the 1890s. Why should these people be able to skirt the law which we all had to follow? There is something very unfair about Mexican 'immigration', if you know what I mean...

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: L.A. is going to boycott Arizona
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2010, 11:28:39 PM »
I am hoping that California soon passes similar legislation to that which they passed in Arizona.

As much as I love my Mexican neighbors here... There are about 3 families living in the house next door. I am also hoping that they send the illegals back where they belong. And this is not racist in the least. The whole problem with the issue is that the conservatives allow the liberals to paint us as if we don't like immigrants. I love immigrants and work with some of the best immigrants in the whole darn world, from all over this great planet Earth... But they are here legally, and I think that it is an insult to my family which legally immigrated to America in the 1890s. Why should these people be able to skirt the law which we all had to follow? There is something very unfair about Mexican 'immigration', if you know what I mean...


You don't have to justify anything, Muman. The situation is out of control and somebody has to start doing something about it, since our federal government long ago abandoned us to the invaders.

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Re: L.A. is going to boycott Arizona
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2010, 12:06:19 AM »
There is no way anyone can tell me the USA (as we know it) is dying (permanently) how can people be so ignorant, even a laymen like me knows empires generally don't last over 200 years  without a dramatic leadership change ..duh lol .
I mean lets be real The USA boycotting it self? that's suicide !
at the same time La is bankrupt its like a cancer and there is no such thing as radiation therapy for Empires...Every one says though NYC will never fall. hmmmm what do the great JTFers think? am I crazy?


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 Kingdom of Egypt united
1800s?
 Migrations of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob between Mesopotamia and Canaan
circa 1700
 Code of Hammurabi (old Babylonian Empire)
1200?
 Exodus from Egypt, conquest of Canaan
1100?
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1000?
 David, King of Israel; foundation of Jerusalem as capital city
950?
 Solomon, King of Israel; building of First Temple in Jerusalem
900?
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750s
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721
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612
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587
 Fall of Jerusalem; destruction of First Temple
587-538
 Babylonian Exile
530s
 Rise of Persian Empire
538-332
 Persian rule of Judea (Yehud)
515
 Rebuilding of the Second Temple in Jerusalem; circulation of the
Torah (?)
330s
 Alexander the Great conquers Mediterranean, Egypt, Persia
320s
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(Egypt), Seleucids (Syria), and Antigonids (Greece)
300-200
 Ptolemaic rule of Judea (Ioudaia)
200-160
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200
 Canonization of the Nevi'im (?)
166-160
 Macabbean Revolt against Antiochus IV
164
 Rededication of the Temple by Judah Macabbee (Hanukkah)
160-63
 Hasmonean Kingdom of Judea
63
 Roman conquest of Judea (Roman rule continues, in various forms,
until 638 C.E.)
44
 Assassination of Julius Caesar; Civil War in Rome
37-4
 Herod the Great acts as client King of Judea; rebuilds the Temple
Mount
27
 Augustus becomes first Emperor of Rome
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6 C.E.
 Judea made into Roman province
30
 Ministry and crucifixion of Jesus
66-73
 First Jewish War; Second Temple destroyed by Romans (70 C.E.)
90
 Canonization of the Ketuvim, and the Tanach (?)
132-135
 Second Jewish War (Bar Kokhba revolt); destruction of Jerusalem
200
 Compilation of Mishnah by Judah Ha-Nasi (the Prince; also known as
Rabbi)
212
 Universal grant of citizenship to all inhabitants of the Roman
Empire
220s
 Foundation of the Sassanid Empire in Persia and Mesopotamia;
establishment of rabbinic communities in Persia
313
 Roman Emperor Constantine converts to Christianity; Persian King of
Kings Shapur II cements alliance with Zoroastrian priests
c. 380s
 Jerusalem (Palestinian) Talmud closed
390s
 Christianity becomes official religion of the Roman Empire
(persecution of Christians continues in Sassanid Persia)
c. 500
 Babylonian Talmud closed
550s
 Heightened persecution of Jews in Rome and Persia
614 Persian conquest of Jerusalem
622 Foundation of Islam (hijra)
638 Islamic conquest of Jerusalem; Pact of Umar

  711
 Islamic conquest of Spain
c. 750 Baghdad founded; rabbinic academies move to new Islamic
capital
c. 800 Karaite (anti-Rabbinic) movement
800 Coronation of Charlemagne as King of the Romans
c. 930s Masoretic text of the Bible established
969 Cairo founded
1066 Massacre of Jews in Grenada
1096 Massacre of Jews in Mainz (First Crusade)
1144 First "blood libel" against Jews (in Norwich, England)
c. 1150 Almohads (Islamic extremists) enter into Spain from North
Africa; family of Maimonides flees from Spain to Egypt
1215 Fourth Lateran Council in Rome (Jews subject to stricter
regulation under Christianity)
1258 Baghdad sacked by the Mongols; Nahmanides active

1290 Expulsion of Jews from England
1306-1394 Expulsion of Jews from France; settlement of Western
European Jews ("Ashkenazim") to northeastern Europe begins
1453 Islamic sack of Constantinople by Ottoman Turks
1492 Expulsion of Jews from Spain; settlement of Spanish Jews
("Sephardim") in Ottoman Empire; Columbus "discovers" North America
1497 Expulsion of Jews from Portugal
1516-1517 Jewish ghetto established in Venice (Italy); beginning of
the Protestant Reformation
1570s Kabbalists active in Safed (Ottoman Palestine); Jews expelled
from the Papal States (Italy)
1618-1648 Thirty Years' War; first pogroms of Jews in Eastern Europe
(Chmielnicki massacres in Poland)
1656 Excommunication of Benedictus (Baruch) Spinoza
1665 Shabbeti Zevi declares himself "messiah" (apostasy in 1666)

1689
 John Locke's "A Letter Concerning Toleration"
1718 John Toland argues for enfranchisement of British Jews
1729-1786 Moses Mendelssohn
1760 Death of Baal Shem Tov (founder of Hasidism)
1772-1795 Partitions of Poland between Russia, Prussia, and Austria
1776 American colonies declare independence from Britain
1782 Joseph II of Germany (Holy Roman Empire) issues first Edict of
Toleration for Jews (later rescinded)
1789 French Revolution
1791 Enfranchisement of French Jews; Enfranchisement of U.S. Jews with
passing of the Bill of Rights; Catherine the Great (Russia)
established Pale of Settlement in which all Russian Jews must live
1812 Enfranchisement of French Jews extended to Prussia after defeat
by Napoleon (later rescinded)

1818 Foundation of first Reform Temple (Hamburg, Germany)
1824 First Reform Temple founded in United States (Charleston, South
Carolina)
1840s Abraham Geiger active in German Reform and Haskalah
1850s Samson Raphael Hirsch spearheads Modern Orthodox movement in
Europe; Zacharias Frankel breaks with reformers, eventually leading to
Conservative Movement
1861-1865 United States Civil War
1870 Reunification of Germany and Italy; emancipation of German and
Italian Jews
1873 Isaac Mayer Wise founds the Union of American Hebrew
Congregations (now the Union of Reform Judaism)
1881 Assassination of Czar Alexander II leads to increased violence
against Jews, and new waves of immigration to the United States
1882 "May Laws": Jews expelled from villages, restricted to tiny towns
in the Pale of Settlement
1890s Gradual full emancipation of British Jews
1893 Alfred Dreyfus (Jewish French military officer) charged with
treason; trial covered by Theodor Herzl
1896 Theodor Herzl writes The Jewish State
1897 First World Zionist Congress
1905 The Protocols of the Elders of Zion begin circulating in Russia
1906 Height of Jewish immigration to the United States
1913 Solomon Shechter founds the United Synagogue of America (now the
United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism)
1914-1918 World War I; end of Ottoman Empire; partition of "middle
east" (British receive Palestinian mandate)
1917 Russian (Communist) Revolution; Balfour Declaration
1925 Publication of Adolf Hitler's My Struggle (Mein Kampf)

1933 Adolf Hitler becomes Chancellor of Germany
1935 Nuremberg Laws begin to strip German Jews of civil rights
1938 Kristallnacht
1939-1945 World War II (United States enters war in 1941); Shoah
1946 Nuremberg Trials of German war criminals
1947 United Nations votes to partition Palestine into Jewish and Arab
states; discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in Judean desert (outside of
Jerusalem)
1948 Israel declares independence; immediately goes to war with
surrounding Arab nations (armistice signed in 1949)
1958 Elie Wiesel publishes Night (U.S. publication: 1960)
1961 Trial of Adolf Eichmann in Jerusalem (executed in 1962)
1967 Six-Days' War
1972 Reform movement ordains the first female rabbi
(Reconstructionists ordain a woman rabbi in 1974; Conservatives in
1985)
1973 Yom Kippur War
1975 United Nations adopts resolution equating Zionism with racism and
racial discrimination (rescinded in 1991)
1978 Camp David Agreement between Israel and Egypt
1983 Reform movement overturns principle of matrilineal descent
1987 First Intifada (uprising) begins
1991 First Gulf War
1995 Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin assassinated at peace rally
2000 Arial Sharon (future Prime Minister of Israel) visits Haram al-
Sharif (Temple Mount) in Jerusalem with armed police officers; new
Intifada (uprising) begins in response
2001 Islamic terrorists attack the U.S., crashing passenger airliners
into the Pentagon and the World Trade Center (NYC)
2003 Second Gulf War

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Re: L.A. is going to boycott Arizona
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2010, 12:29:23 AM »
18chai,

You sure have a point, but that doesn't mean your not crazy.... Does it?

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: L.A. is going to boycott Arizona
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2010, 12:40:09 AM »
I dont know.. what i do know is the USA will fall .. that doesnt mean will we all die no, g-d forbid it just means the USA as we know it wont exist

 .. maybe it will be the D.S.A Divided States of America

maybe sates will withdraw like Texas?

maybe they will be absorbed by other states and the absorbers will then be absorbed till nothing is left?

Sorry guys.. for the first time in my life i think its too late for America to be saved, my parents are halfway there to being convince to leave America too

people that really love America like me worry about it and make plans to leave if they feel they don't being even if there is more money to be had

people that hate it just wanna rape it till there is nothing left ...or worse, just sit and say all will be well..

Its really sad man, It was a great country i think its gonna take 10-`15 years though for the final straw to be added to break the camels back
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Re: L.A. is going to boycott Arizona
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2010, 12:54:26 AM »
My best friend is Mexican.  Generally I like most Mexicans, or other Hispanic people.  I can speak Spanish well enough, although I am not fully fluent.  I think anyone [except terrorists and their supporters] who immigrates here legally should be treated well [provided they do not come here to suck down welfare and do nothing else].  However, illegal aliens should be deported with no "rights".  People who enforce the law should not be criticized for their patriotic and law abiding actions.  We are in a national crisis with illegal aliens...  Arizona could just evoke martial law and suspend civil rights legally if need be, however they choose a moderate approach by instructing police officers to enforce laws which exist.

Economically failing California hurts itself by ostracizing a business partner like Arizona.  The best that could come out of this is if California creates more jobs for California by hiring Californians to do any job outsourced to Arizona. 

I think, perhaps, the condemnation may partially stem from California's desire to not have more illegals target California as a destination to infest now that Arizona is off limits.
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