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From: Stop the Jewish Press Stop the Jewish Press <[email protected]>
Date: Jun 27, 2007 3:02 PM
Subject: JEWISH PRESS CALLS FOR LIFE IN JAIL FOR POLLARD, BOYCOTT THE JEWISH PRESS
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SHAME ON THE JEWISH PRESS!
 
The Jewish Press printed for the last two weeks articles calling for eternal imprisonment of Jewish and American hero Jonathan Pollard. The ex Director of the CIA, former Mayor Guliani and a whole slue of gentile political figures who were privileged to the “confidential” information on the Pollard case all call for his freedom. Yet two anti-Semites feel they know better and the Jewish Press has the nerve to print these articles. Below are the two articles letters.
 
We are calling for a boycott of the Jewish Press by all American patriots. Call and notify the advertisers to stop advertising in the Jewish Press or they will be boycotted too.
 
More information will be coming as the case develops.
 
For now you can e-mail [email protected]
 
Please forward this e-mail to all you know.
Call the Jewish Press and voice your anger at:
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No Sympathy For Pollard
 By: Kenneth H. Barr
      Jonathan Pollard’s accusations against Israeli President-Elect Shimon Peres are a laughable attempt to rewrite history (news story, June 8).
 
      Mr. Pollard was paid by the Israeli Secret Service to spy on the United States. It is suspected that other foreign powers also benefited from Mr. Pollard’s spying. Mr. Pollard was an American citizen, working in the Central Clearance Facility, Defense Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency. Very simply put, he committed treason against the nation to which he owed total allegiance, the United States of America.
 
      The “communications secrets” Mr. Pollard admitted to trying to provide foreign – that’s right, foreign – governments were not merely innocuous Radio-Telephone Operator codes. The information he tried to acquire for his foreign masters was so delicate it carried the additional access restriction of “NOFORN,” meaning no foreign dissemination is allowed.
 
      He used his position at CCF to identify personnel in sensitive duty position who are of the Jewish faith. He then contacted 31 of those service members (sometimes more than one contact was attempted) and offered sums of cash to turn over to him the sensitive material they had custodial custody of. All 31 reported his contacting them. That’s how he was caught. I should know. I was one of those 31.
 
      At the time of the first contact, I was assigned as the Intelligence and Security Specialist to the 1st Battalion, 6th Field Artillery at Fort Bragg, NC. I served a total of 10 years, 2 months and 10 days on active duty service, first in the Field Artillery and subsequently as an Arabic linguist in Military Intelligence. I am a graduate of the Defense Language Institute, Foreign Language Center.
 
      Mr. Pollard claimed we had a duty to Israel as well as the United States. As a member of the American Armed Forces, sworn to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, both foreign and domestic; and to bear true allegiance to the same...,” I had no such divided loyalties. Neither did my 30 colleagues. Our loyalty is, was and always shall be to the United States of America, first, last and always.
 
      Israel is a foreign nation when it comes to classified material. It had no right to it. It still doesn’t, unless the classifying authority says it does. In the case of the material I was responsible for, that authority is the president of the United States and no one else.
 
      Mr. Pollard is a traitor and deserves the punishment he is receiving. He is no better than the Walkers or Aldrich Ames. Any efforts to paint him in a heroic light are repugnant and a stain upon responsible American Jewry.
 
Same Old Arguments
By: Gershon Distenfeld
      Hats off to Kenneth Barr for having the guts to say something that is so politically incorrect in our circles but that represents the true feelings of so many of us. Pollard is a traitor who deserves no sympathy from our community.
 
      I’m sick and tired of hearing the same old arguments again and again about how he was given a much harsher sentence than others who have spied. That’s like saying we should set free a murderer because other murderers have been shown leniency in the past. We should be upset that others were not given harsher sentences, not the other way around.
 
      In addition, I think it’s a huge chillul Hashem for this to be one of the highest priorities for organized Jewry. In a post-9/11 world, the very idea that one of our biggest rallying cries should be to set free someone who betrayed his country is nothing short of revolting.
 
      As a community, there is no shortage of issues for which we should be lobbying. Freeing Pollard should not even be on the list, let alone toward the top.
 
 
 

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This is sick stuff.  This was the paper that R' Kahane used to write for, look at what it became.   >:(
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I hope they all burn in hell. And they will.

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I got this now. Let's keep the word going.

KEEP CALLING THE JEWISH PRESS. LET'S GO. GOD WILL BLESS YOU FOR IT.

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From: Stop the Jewish Press Stop the Jewish Press <[email protected]>
Date: Jun 27, 2007 3:14 PM
Subject: Update
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Here is an update:

Please pass on:

The second article was written by a
Distenfeld, Gershon of Bergenfield, NJ. Now we may be wrong and if we are please let us know right away, but we found a Distenfeld, Gershon in Bergenfield, NJ listed with the number (201) 244-0234 and (201) 384-1323.
Let's give him some phone calls. 



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Is there anyone here who hasn't called yet?

Let's keep these calls going daily. Keep calling. Let them stop business. C'mon guys, let us get working.

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Wait a second. Was this an article or a letter to the editor?

I see a big difference between the two.
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Either way, they should not have printed an anti-Semetic article. I think it was a letter to the editor.

It doesn't matter. Let's call the Jewish Press and voice our anger.


Judea, zei zenen mosrim, reshuim, di heimeshe oilam koift nish kein "jewish" press, rif in shrei of em.

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Never reading that rag again.

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Judea, zei zenen mosrim, reshuim, di heimeshe oilam koift nish kein "jewish" press, rif in shrei of em.

Yuh, avade.

Pidyon Shvuyim iz eine fin di greist mitzvos in di Torah.

In Oste Europe, Groise Rabbonim haben gechalelt Shabbos un yom kippur ochet far afile frei yidden.

Aber di tzveite number for Gershon Distenfeld.

Tomer er iz nisht di zelbe mench.

Haste im gerift?
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Burn em at "the STAKE" !  Demand Heads on Sticks !!

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Take a deep breath, Scotch.

It's going to be OK.
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Unfortunately I suspect the two demons who wrote this excrement ARE correct on one thing. They probably are right that the majority of American Jews hate Pollard.

I know some members of the forum will disagree but by their actions and silence, they have not demonstrated otherwise.

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Unfortunately I suspect the two demons who wrote this excrement ARE correct on one thing. They probably are right that the majority of American Jews hate Pollard.

I know some members of the forum will disagree but by their actions and silence, they have not demonstrated otherwise.

Wrong.

Most American Jews don't hate Jonathan Pollard.

They are afraid of arousing gentiles to anti-semitism.
That is the reason.
Fear of the gentile.

C.F.    you can't understand this because you are a gentile.

You don't fear yourself. That would be crazy.
But Jews have an innate fear of non-jews.
It's because of 2000 years of exile. We're still afraid.

The only Jews who don't seem to have this fear are some JTF Jews and converts. So far as I have seen anyway.

It's a cultural phenomenon of actual fear of physical harm that causes so many Jews to say and do such despicable things.
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Judea, zei zenen mosrim, reshuim, di heimeshe oilam koift nish kein "jewish" press, rif in shrei of em.

Yuh, avade.

Pidyon Shvuyim iz eine fin di greist mitzvos in di Torah.

In Oste Europe, Groise Rabbonim haben gechalelt Shabbos un yom kippur ochet far afile frei yidden.

Aber di tzveite number for Gershon Distenfeld.

Tomer er iz nisht di zelbe mench.

Haste im gerift?

According to the White Pages the two numbers are the same address and name. I assume it's the same person.

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I know that I am a Gentile and you are not, but fear isn't an excuse. These 31 agents had no reason to think they would get caught. Of their own free will they got together and ratted out Jonathan Pollard. Even if the majority of American Jews are only pretending to despise Pollard, the damage is done. The Gentile Nazis that run the country take that public display and it gives them great confidence.

For that matter, genuine, right-wing, evangelical Christians (I am talking about the REAL ones, not the savage hordes of Euronazis through the ages or the baboon beasts howling about slavery in their churches) have every reason to be fearful of governments and populaces too. In every country on the planet, true Christians (see above for definition) have been a minority, and usually a very tiny one, and have very seldom been treated substantially better than Jews. You don't see this backstabbing, self-hating behavior among Christians to the same extent (you do, but not nearly as much).

Did fear force American Jews to support Hillary Sodom Arafat and David Dinkins? Did fear force American Jews to support the savage "civil rights" movement or relentlessly pressure their besieged brothers to surrender to the PLO Muslim Nazis (through their mainstream organizations the ADL/UJA/Simon Wiesenthal Center)?

Self-hatred is the culprit.


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I forwarded the e-mail to the Jewish Press and to the Justice for Pollard Committee (Esther Pollard).

This is what the Jewish Press wrote:

On 6/27/07, Editor <[email protected]> wrote:

Stop spreading disinformation. These were not articles but letters to the editor. Everyone knows The Jewish Press has been in the forefront in terms of supporting Jonathan Pollard. Are you suggesting we only publish letters that agree with our views?


To which I replied:

When you print evil letters, you are spreading their message. I don't care if you want to display both sides. What about the fact that the letter is false. Jonathan Pollard is an American hero. It is a shame that you will print such a letter.

You guys should apologize in the paper.


And from the Pollard Committee:

On 6/27/07, Justice For Jonathan Pollard <[email protected]> wrote:

    We know nothing about this. Do you know who is promoting this boycott? Whoever is running this campaign ought to identify themselves if they hope to be effective. Running an anonymous campaign may prove counterproductive.
     
    Justice4JP


To which I replied:


I don't know who is doing it.

I know that I called lots of friends to tell them what the JP did and we discussed a boycott. I then got the e-mail. I'm guess it's someone I know. Maybe you guys want to make the boycott official. I don't know.



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BS. They ran the letters and support their authors completely.

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BS. They ran the letters and support their authors completely.

I know.

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My conversation with the Jewish Press and Esther Pollard continues:

The Jewish Press:

On 6/27/07, Editor <[email protected]> wrote:

    "An American hero"? Even many of us who feel he received an unfair sentence would hesitate to go that far. And how is the letter "false"? Again, you can disagree with the letter-writer's conclusions, but that doesn't mean he's written anything that's untrue as far as the facts of the case are concerned. Why hould we aplogize for providing an open forum for the exchange of views and opinions? You seem like a sincere, caring individual, but it appears you only want to see views in print that agree with your own.


I responded:

He is an American hero because he provided Israel with information that led Israel to take action in Iraq making our current war hell of a lot easier.

The letter of Gershon Distenfeld didn't state one true fact. He claims that it is a Chillul Hashem for Jews to demand that Pollard be released. The Mitzvah of Pidyon Shvuyim applies here, and we go to every extent to fulfill that Mittzvah. This guy is evil, ignorant, and you guys are evil for printing it.

No Muslim paper would print a letter against them, no leftist paper, why should a JEWISH paper print a letter of lies against an American hero? I don't care what kind of exchange of ideas you want. When you are reaching lots of people with your message, you spread this traitor's message of hate and lies.

Are you guys getting other complaints or am I the only "nut" with Jewish pride?

Israel Appel


Justice For Pollard Committee writes:

On 6/27/07, Justice For Jonathan Pollard <[email protected]> wrote:

    We do not do things anonymously and we are not in the least bit interested in joining a campaign started by someone who does not have the courage to identify themselves. This is not right. This is not how things are done.
I mean start the initiative yourselves.


I respond:


The articles are on the Jewish Press website. HEre are the links:

http://www.jewishpress.com/page.do/21915/Letters_To_The_Editor.html
http://www.jewishpress.com/page.do/21979/Letters_To_The_Editor.html


The guy who started it may be a coward but that doesnt mean others shouldnt join in.







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The following information is not yet verified. While I believe it's correct, I'm not certain.

I would also like to note: do not do anything iilegal to anyone involved in this scandal. I am not suggesting harassment of any kind.

The second article was written by GERSHON DISTENFELD of 600 S Prospect Ave - Bergenfield, NJ 07621-3928 with the phone numbers: (201) 244-0234 and (201) 384-1323.


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My friend contacted some of the advertisers, they all said they wont pull their ads out. Some said they have no statement on Pollard, others agreed that it was a disgrace the the Jewish Press printed it, but they said it will hurt their business.

One advertiser, "Quilts for Katif" which claims to sell quilts made by former Gush Katif residents and that profit goes to them. She said that Pollard is a traitor. She is the most disgusting because she is supposedly involved in helping out the Gush Katif residents.

Her name and number will come soon after I find her ad in the paper.

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My conversation with the Justice for Pollard Committee continues:

J4JP:


On 6/27/07, Justice For Jonathan Pollard <[email protected]> wrote:

    The Jewish Press is unworthy of the effort. They have chosen to undermine the Mitzvah of Pidyan Shvuyim. They have bigger problems than they realize.
    Thanks for writing.


I respond:

Al tikre Jewish Press elah Jewish Mess ;)

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Hello Yisrayl, and good day to you.

I want to tell you how very proud I am of you for the action you've taken in this regard.   So many folks say the right things, and agree with us, but virtually never put their money where their mouth is when it comes down to it.   Please continue your letter writing campaign, and keep us updated.

You have earned that much more respect in my book.

With kindest regards, and awaiting Shiloh,
Christopher
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To be perfectly straight with you guys, a letter to the editor is different than an actual article in the paper.  Still, the letter should not have been printed and Israel is doing some really first class work here. 
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Thanks for the kinds words.


The Jewish Press replied with this:


On 6/27/07, Editor <[email protected]> wrote:

    You are wrong. Pollard began spying for Israel a couple of years AFTER the 1981 nuclear reactor bombing. Pollard's info had nothing to do with Iraq's nuclear program. That's a FACT. As for your comment about other papers printing "a letter against them," you're right about the Muslim papers. Sorry, but I don't think thier level of integrity is something to aspire to. As for leftist papers, you're wrong again. Liberal and leftist publications regularly run letters from people who disagree with their editorial positions, just as right-wing publications run letters from liberals who don't agree with the conservative position.


Here are the rest of the e-mails with the Pollard Committee:

    On 6/27/07, Justice For Jonathan Pollard <[email protected] > wrote:

            Very good!
            (Sad, isn't it?)


    On 6/28/07, Israel Appel <[email protected] > wrote:

        Very!

        Their editor e-mailed me. I told him that no Muslim or Leftist paper would print a letter against Islam or Liberalism. Why must a JEWISH paper do it? He also said that Jonathan isn't an American hero, he just got a punishment that was too harsh. Sick traitors.



On 6/27/07, Justice For Jonathan Pollard < [email protected]> wrote:

    We fail to follow the logic. If the punishment was too harsh, and yet he is still sitting in prison 22 years later, and in poor health, and this is the mitzvah of pidyan shvuyim (as defined by HaRav Mordecai Eliyahu: "the highest form of th e mitzvah of pidyan shvuyim, for one who was moser nefesh for Am Yisrael") why is the Jewish Press aiding and abetting those who are intent on increasing his suffering and maintaining his "too harsh punishment"? What does being a hero have to do with the Jewish Press' institutionalized lashon haRah, and blatant hypocrisy? Spare us!


To which I reply:


Well said.

I think that you guys should issue an official statement and get some Rabbis to join you.



   

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- George W. Bush, 43rd President of the United States of America