Menachem Begin and the 1979 treaty

[The One and Only Mo]

Is it wrong for me to assume that Begin didn't have to give away all of that land?

[Sveta]

Is it wrong for me to assume that Begin didn't have to give away all of that land?

The peanut farmer and the current vegetable in Israel pressured him. He did teshuvah by suffering the rest of his life (He went into depression after leaving office.). The vegetable on the other hand was punished by G-d within a few months (For destroying Gaza).

[LoneRanger]

As I am gathering from this site, the Sinai give-away made it possible for Egypt to send black sub-Saharan Arabs and animists and Christians, mostly Sudanese, Ethiopians and Somalis through the Sinai to the Negev or Gaza to flood Israel, which was not possible while Israel controlled it.  Israel has recently expelled some of them but it is a revolving door.  Am I correct?

[Sveta]

Yes, plus weapons are smuggled into Gaza, even before the Expulsion from Gaza. They've also smuggled all sorts of things such as drugs and even a lion for the PLO/Hamas zoo in Gaza City.

[muman613]

As I am gathering from this site, the Sinai give-away made it possible for Egypt to send black sub-Saharan Arabs and animists and Christians, mostly Sudanese, Ethiopians and Somalis through the Sinai to the Negev or Gaza to flood Israel, which was not possible while Israel controlled it.  Israel has recently expelled some of them but it is a revolving door.  Am I correct?

The Sinai was given to Egypt in 1979... That was many years ago... The flood of illegals only became a problem recently, probrobly due to the decline of Israeli/Egypt relations due to the so-called arab spring.

[The One and Only Mo]

Begin organized the Irgun. So that's rly good, right?

[Dr. Dan]

As I am gathering from this site, the Sinai give-away made it possible for Egypt to send black sub-Saharan Arabs and animists and Christians, mostly Sudanese, Ethiopians and Somalis through the Sinai to the Negev or Gaza to flood Israel, which was not possible while Israel controlled it.  Israel has recently expelled some of them but it is a revolving door.  Am I correct?

I think the African blacks who snuck in to Israel is a more recent phenomena.  This isn't something which happened since 1979, but more like I believe the last 5 to 15 years.

[Dr. Dan]

Begin organized the Irgun. So that's rly good, right?

Begin is what we would like to call a secular Zionist.  A truly religious zionist like Kahane, would have never bowed down to pressure to give up any conquered land because a religious zionist understands that it is a sin according to the Torah to do such things.  A secular zionist would claim to support a Jewish nation but an any type of border...even a suicidal one.