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Re: Germans.
« Reply #50 on: August 22, 2007, 11:42:46 AM »
Prussians are Germans .
Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
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Re: Germans.
« Reply #51 on: August 22, 2007, 11:43:34 AM »
But oh, yes, most of these Nazis are dead, so that won't be feasible anytime soon. G-d has said that he lays the iniquities of the fathers on even the third and fourth generation. So I would like to see him mature and do teshuba for what his grandfather did, and then we'll listen.

Will you repent for what Karl Marx and Leon Trotsky and Chaim Weizmann and David Ben Gurion did to tens of millions of Russians by creating and espousing Communism?

HUH ?
A. Chaim Weizmann and David Ben Gurion were socialists AND they have only effected the Jews .
B. Karl Marx born as Christian, Leon Trotsky was anti-Jewish and he murderd thousends of Jews (and Russins) .

Excuses, excuses....

But they were all still Jews, as were many other Communists throughout Europe and America.

Robert Oppenheimer, an American Communist Jew, gave away atomic secrets to the Russians, as did Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. The Jewish judge who sentenced the Rosenbergs to death said that they were responsible for the Korean War, which resulted in the deaths of 50,000 Americans and untold hundreds of thousands of Koreans.

Will "There Are No 'Israeli' Arabs" repent for the deeds of Oppenheimer and the Rosenbergs?

My point is that "There Are No 'Israeli' Arabs" talks like he's the voice of G-d Almighty Himself.

Who is he to tell a German who comes on our board that he has no place here, just because he's German and hasn't worn sackcloth and ashes at the feet of our high and mighty global moderator?

PS: Karl Marx's father, born Herschel Mordechai, a follower of Voltaire and other atheists, converted to Christianity only because Jews weren't then allowed to practice law in Prussia.
Those were individual Jews who did evil, it was the German nation as a whole that was evil and is evil. There can be no forgiveness for what they did, now they are in trouble because the Muslims may conquer Germany, I hope the Germans and Muslims wipe each other out. The Germans havent repented the only sorrow they feel is that they lost the war they dont regret their actions in the slightest, but now they are afraid of the Muslims so they look the world over for allies, I will not accept friendship from the wicked sons of wicked fathers, who murdered righteous sons of righteous fathers.

In judaism when a entire nation wars against the Jewish people the entire nation is considered evil, and that nation is accursed and evil.

Rabbi Kahane zt'l wanted a 500 year ban on Jewish contact with Germany and Germans, which since we claim to be Kahanists on this forum should be our policy as well. Besides which I think Chaim made his position very clear on this week's Ask JTF.

And thank you CF for taking a principled stand.
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Re: Germans.
« Reply #52 on: August 22, 2007, 11:44:54 AM »
Prussians are Germans .
yes now but i think the original Prussians were Baltic
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Re: Germans.
« Reply #53 on: August 22, 2007, 11:46:32 AM »
They had Jewish nazis yes Jewish nazis field marshalls also 


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Re: Germans.
« Reply #54 on: August 22, 2007, 11:47:49 AM »
Prussians are Germans .
yes now but i think the original Prussians were Baltic

The original Prussians (known in German as Pruzzen) were Baltic, but were displaced and assimilated by German settlers (who became known in German as Preussen) over 500 years ago.


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Re: Germans.
« Reply #55 on: August 22, 2007, 11:48:35 AM »
Prussians are Germans .
yes now but i think the original Prussians were Baltic

The original Prussians (known in German as Pruzzen) were Baltic, but were displaced and assimilated by German settlers (who became known in German as Preussen) over 500 years ago.
Yes thats what i thought
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Re: Germans.
« Reply #56 on: August 22, 2007, 12:26:05 PM »
But oh, yes, most of these Nazis are dead, so that won't be feasible anytime soon. G-d has said that he lays the iniquities of the fathers on even the third and fourth generation. So I would like to see him mature and do teshuba for what his grandfather did, and then we'll listen.

Will you repent for what Karl Marx and Leon Trotsky and Chaim Weizmann and David Ben Gurion did to tens of millions of Russians by creating and espousing Communism?

HUH ?
A. Chaim Weizmann and David Ben Gurion were socialists AND they have only effected the Jews .
B. Karl Marx born as Christian, Leon Trotsky was anti-Jewish and he murderd thousends of Jews (and Russins) .

Excuses, excuses....

But they were all still Jews, as were many other Communists throughout Europe and America.

Robert Oppenheimer, an American Communist Jew, gave away atomic secrets to the Russians, as did Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. The Jewish judge who sentenced the Rosenbergs to death said that they were responsible for the Korean War, which resulted in the deaths of 50,000 Americans and untold hundreds of thousands of Koreans.

Will "There Are No 'Israeli' Arabs" repent for the deeds of Oppenheimer and the Rosenbergs?

My point is that "There Are No 'Israeli' Arabs" talks like he's the voice of G-d Almighty Himself.

Who is he to tell a German who comes on our board that he has no place here, just because he's German and hasn't worn sackcloth and ashes at the feet of our high and mighty global moderator?

PS: Karl Marx's father, born Herschel Mordechai, a follower of Voltaire and other atheists, converted to Christianity only because Jews weren't then allowed to practice law in Prussia.
Those were individual Jews who did evil, it was the German nation as a whole that was evil and is evil. There can be no forgiveness for what they did, now they are in trouble because the Muslims may conquer Germany, I hope the Germans and Muslims wipe each other out. The Germans havent repented the only sorrow they feel is that they lost the war they dont regret their actions in the slightest, but now they are afraid of the Muslims so they look the world over for allies, I will not accept friendship from the wicked sons of wicked fathers, who murdered righteous sons of righteous fathers.

In judaism when a entire nation wars against the Jewish people the entire nation is considered evil, and that nation is accursed and evil.

Rabbi Kahane zt'l wanted a 500 year ban on Jewish contact with Germany and Germans, which since we claim to be Kahanists on this forum should be our policy as well. Besides which I think Chaim made his position very clear on this week's Ask JTF.

And thank you CF for taking a principled stand.

So what about someone like me then? I am a wicked person because I have a parent who is German and a parent who is Jewish? Why are all Germans somehow bad people because of what their ancestors did? That makes about as much sense as saying all whites are evil because their ancestors had slaves. Certainly the blacks didn't go through what the Jews did, but to outcast an entire people because they are descended from Germans seems rather silly. You are your own person.
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Re: Germans.
« Reply #57 on: August 22, 2007, 12:33:12 PM »
Your parent is a convert, they are not German but Jewish, as Jewish as me or Chaim. I have already said that when a nation wars against the Jewish people that nation takes upon itself a certain status, if someone born in Germany is Jewish or a sincere Ben Noach, that is a whole separate issue then if someone is a German.
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Re: Germans.
« Reply #58 on: August 22, 2007, 12:46:51 PM »
Your parent is a convert, they are not German but Jewish, as Jewish as me or Chaim. I have already said that when a nation wars against the Jewish people that nation takes upon itself a certain status, if someone born in Germany is Jewish or a sincere Ben Noach, that is a whole separate issue then if someone is a German.

Kahaneloyalist, you are not the same Kahaneloyalist from youtube are you?

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Re: Germans.
« Reply #59 on: August 22, 2007, 02:41:54 PM »
Thats me ;)
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Re: Germans.
« Reply #60 on: August 22, 2007, 05:01:33 PM »
I remember you how have you been? I havent been on AIM much either lately because I've been in Israel, but I am coming back to the US for a month, we can talk on AIM again in a few days, I miss our conversations.
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Re: Germans.
« Reply #61 on: August 22, 2007, 05:45:42 PM »
My point is that just like the vast majority of Arab "Christians" are Muslims in Christian clothing, the vast majority of German "Christians" are Odinists in Christian clothing.

I do have some German Christian friends, so I do know the difference.

They like movies where people poop on each other, too.

And just how would you happen to know about that?  :laugh:

I thought that was a well known stereotype lol, I recall a episode of south park where eric cartmans mom engaged in this activity while eric was surfing the internet. You can hear the guy in the background shouting in German. I guess that has to do with Germanys....strange pornography industry.

Oh yeah, that's right. In the South Park movie, they're on the internet where either Kyle or Stan says, "Hey Cartman! Is that your mom in a german shayser video? Hey, that really is Cartman's mom!" Later on: "Mom, you would tell me if you were in a german shayser video, right mom?" "Of course, dear!" and slams the door very quickly :)

I can never completely relax when 'entertaining' a German girl for that reason.

Oh, is that right? And why is that? Afriad she'll poop on you?  :laugh:

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Re: Germans.
« Reply #62 on: August 23, 2007, 03:08:13 AM »
ok, what about the french and brits for example? They all oppressed the Jews?

If you take it tha far, what about the Americans? Whom have British blood?

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Re: Germans.
« Reply #63 on: August 23, 2007, 03:09:16 AM »
I remember you how have you been? I havent been on AIM much either lately because I've been in Israel, but I am coming back to the US for a month, we can talk on AIM again in a few days, I miss our conversations.

Pretty good thanks, how about yourself?

I didn't realize you posted on the JTF forums. How is Israel?
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Re: Germans.
« Reply #64 on: August 23, 2007, 06:55:17 AM »
Those were individual Jews who did evil, it was the German nation as a whole that was evil and is evil. There can be no forgiveness for what they did, now they are in trouble because the Muslims may conquer Germany, I hope the Germans and Muslims wipe each other out. The Germans havent repented the only sorrow they feel is that they lost the war they dont regret their actions in the slightest, but now they are afraid of the Muslims so they look the world over for allies, I will not accept friendship from the wicked sons of wicked fathers, who murdered righteous sons of righteous fathers.

In judaism when a entire nation wars against the Jewish people the entire nation is considered evil, and that nation is accursed and evil.

Rabbi Kahane zt'l wanted a 500 year ban on Jewish contact with Germany and Germans, which since we claim to be Kahanists on this forum should be our policy as well. Besides which I think Chaim made his position very clear on this week's Ask JTF.

"Vengeance is mine," saith the L-ord. In other words, only G-d has the right to decide whose sons get punished for the sins of their fathers. You're a Jew, Kahaneloyalist, but you're not G-d, despite the fact that you read the Torah in the Hebrew.

You're using the same argument that Jew-haters use when they say that Jews should be punished through eternity for being Christ-killers.

Rabbi Kahane wasn't right about everything. He wasn't G-d, any more than you are. If you look at the Youtube video about the JDL military training camp, you'll hear him say that slavery was a bad thing but that whites and not Jews should be blamed for it.

According to Chaim, the Italians, French, British and Americans all had a hand in fostering and prolonging the Holocaust. Should all of those nations also be wiped out?

Besides, the Nazis weren't such bad guys. Hell, even Chaim would have collaborated with them during World War II. He said so himself, on a recent "Ask JTF" program. Remember the trucks for Eichmann bit?

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Re: Germans.
« Reply #65 on: August 23, 2007, 08:55:27 AM »
Oh, is that right? And why is that? Afriad she'll poop on you?  :laugh:

What kind of pornography do Jews like? Husbands getting beat up by their wives?  ;D

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Re: Germans.
« Reply #66 on: August 23, 2007, 09:10:19 AM »
Oh, is that right? And why is that? Afriad she'll poop on you?  :laugh:

What kind of pornography do Jews like? Husbands getting beat up by their wives?  ;D
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Re: Germans.
« Reply #67 on: August 23, 2007, 09:18:27 AM »
Oh, is that right? And why is that? Afriad she'll poop on you?  :laugh:

What kind of pornography do Jews like? Husbands getting beat up by their wives?  ;D
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Wait till you're older, Dexter. ;D

By the way, gentlemen, we shouldn't forget that kiddies read this forum. This means you, Chaim Fan.

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Re: Germans.
« Reply #68 on: August 23, 2007, 09:44:10 AM »
Time for me to jump in here and respond to Dissenter.

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Will you repent for what Karl Marx and Leon Trotsky and Chaim Weizmann and David Ben Gurion did to tens of millions of Russians by creating and espousing Communism?

Why does anyone here have to repent for what these people did? No one here on the forum enthusiastically voted them into power.  And more importantly, no one here supports, or excuses the communist ideology.  Furthermore, if you even bothered listening to Chaim's show, you'll remember that one of the problems he had with German Christ was his equating the suffering of Germans to those of their victims, for which their is no moral or logical comparison.

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Excuses, excuses....

But they were all still Jews, as were many other Communists throughout Europe and America.

Robert Oppenheimer, an American Communist Jew, gave away atomic secrets to the Russians, as did Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. The Jewish judge who sentenced the Rosenbergs to death said that they were responsible for the Korean War, which resulted in the deaths of 50,000 Americans and untold hundreds of thousands of Koreans.

Will "There Are No 'Israeli' Arabs" repent for the deeds of Oppenheimer and the Rosenbergs?

Dissenter, this is the last place where you want to blame Jews for Communism.  While there were communists of Jewish ancestry, many of them were also non-Jewish. 

Regarding the Rosenbergs, they very justly received the death penalty.  So once again, you won't find anyone here claiming the Rosenbergs were victims, or equating their well deserved execution to those of communism's victims. 

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Who is he to tell a German who comes on our board that he has no place here, just because he's German and hasn't worn sackcloth and ashes at the feet of our high and mighty global moderator?

Wrong again, Dissenter.  Chaim Ben Pesach is the one who is against Germans posting here.  This is HIS forum.  So if you have a problem with German Christ being banned, take it up with Chaim and Jimmy Sullivan.  But DO NOT insult "There Are No Israeli Arabs."

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PS: Karl Marx's father, born Herschel Mordechai, a follower of Voltaire and other atheists, converted to Christianity only because Jews weren't then allowed to practice law in Prussia.

Judaism is just not something you drop for career advancement.  And Karl Marx was very anti-Jewish.

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Besides, the Nazis weren't such bad guys. Hell, even Chaim would have collaborated with them during World War II. He said so himself, on a recent "Ask JTF" program. Remember the trucks for Eichmann bit?

I don't know what you're trying to pull here.  But this is not the forum to say such a thing, even if you are joking.  And how DARE YOU imply that Chaim would collaborate with such monsters?!?!?

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What kind of pornography do Jews like? Husbands getting beat up by their wives? 

This is the last straw.  Go spew your anti-Jewish filth elsewhere!  You are banned!

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Re: Germans.
« Reply #69 on: August 23, 2007, 09:57:58 AM »
Time for me to jump in here and respond to Dissenter.



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What kind of pornography do Jews like? Husbands getting beat up by their wives? 

This is the last straw.  Go spew your anti-Jewish filth elsewhere!  You are banned!

Thanks for banning him. That went too far.

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« Reply #70 on: August 23, 2007, 11:22:21 AM »
Besides, the Nazis weren't such bad guys. Hell, even Chaim would have collaborated with them during World War II. He said so himself, on a recent "Ask JTF" program. Remember the trucks for Eichmann bit?

What a sick piece of garbage. Yes, good job, Lisa.
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« Reply #71 on: August 23, 2007, 03:14:52 PM »
Dissenter is still showing up as a member not a guest
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Re: Germans.
« Reply #72 on: August 23, 2007, 03:20:25 PM »
He is banned.
His account was deleted though.

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« Reply #73 on: August 23, 2007, 06:28:13 PM »
No don't delete it. Keep it on banned so he can't create a new account and log back in.
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« Reply #74 on: August 23, 2007, 06:47:11 PM »
Ban by the ip.  Then he won't be able to evade it unless he knows what he's doing.